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I've been thinking of purchasing a P90 and a suppressor. I have never purchased a gun before. Is this a good starting weapon? Is there anything I should be concerned about?
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>Is there anything I should be concerned about?

Ammo is a bit pricey(less so since American Eagle started producing 5.7), as is the gun itself. It's definitely a neat little gun though, I'll say that much.
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Just go back to cowadooty faggot

Or you known research even a little about guns before showing everyone here how stupid you are

P90 ammo 5.7 relies on velocity, suppressing supersonic ammo is still fucking loud. Subsonic 5.7 would essentially be really expensive 22

The few advantages of P90s aren't realized in the civilian model:
>small
With 16 inch barrel P90 is too fucking big for elite oper8tor shit
>controllable on full auto
Obviously doesn't apply

It's basically a meme gun also the trigger sucks dick
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>>33751701
Sorry for asking questions. I'll just go, now.
:'(
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>>33751668
>Is something that's going to require two cuckstamps to make it look like my favorite Call of Duty loadout a good first gun

Overpriced gun, overpriced ammo, no functional advantages over literally anything else

Maybe just stick to airsoft
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>>33751701
>>33751713
You guys are fags.

It's a good gun OP. A little expensive, but if you've got the cash go for it. Don't get a suppressor though. Invest that in a decent optic and the rest on mags and ammo.
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>>33751709
4chan is not a good place to research 1k+ purchases. Just get a basic bitch ar or AK just like everyone else faggot.
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>>33751668
The civilian variants have a long barrel due to the National Firearms Act of 1934 so in order to get the classic short barrel you'd need to fill out a tax stamp. Ammunition is kinda pricey, but as they get more popular the ammo has come down significantly in price since I purchased a PS90. The suppressor you also have to fill out a tax stamp for.

As for good first gun, it's better than a Mosin Nagant if I'm going to be quite honest. Absolutely no muzzle climb and very little recoil, trigger is also about as bad as a Mosin. Your main concern will be ammunition cost and cost of the rifle.

Ask yourself
>Do you really want to spend $1000 on your first firearm
>Do you really want to go through the hassle of $400 in tax stamps and several months of waiting just to cut down the barrel and put on a suppressor
>Do you really want to spent a lot of money on ammunition when you can get similar performance out of a rifle chambered in .22 WMR?

Ultimately I decided yes, it depends on your situation though.

Personally if I were to spend that much money on a first gun, I'd assemble an AR-15. You can make a pretty good rifle for one grand.
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>>33751748
Don't listen to this guy OP, he's just trying to justify his thousand dollar fuckup.

You didn't even post what you intended to use the rifle for. If it's anything other than looking like a colossal homo while plinking at the range with 35 cpr meme bullets don't get a PS90
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>>33751709
> :'(
Yes, please fucking do, and never return.
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>All these noguns shitting on the p90
My local range has a full auto p90 and its amazing. If you want one, get the ps90 (16" barrel) amd fill out a cuck stamp later. Its a good, fun gun with pricey ammo. You might like an MP5 clone or a kel tec sub 2000
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>>33751668

I would only get this if you knew that you wanted specifically a PS90.

To make it look like the one pictured, you're also buying a tax stamp for a short barrel, waiting probably close to a year, and then paying to have the barrel cut or buying a short barrel and installing.

For the suppressor you're again getting a tax stamp and waiting.

After all this you'll still have a semi auto rifle. A Stargate Cool one though.

Nothing wrong with your plan. It's just not an average first gun purchase.

All that aside, if I see one for sale under $1000 again, I am buying it and I'm sad I didn't get one back when they were under 900 for a brief period.
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>>33751820
Kek.

Don't compare a full auto P90 to a pants on head retarded PS90.
This gun is for your 6th or 7th rifle for when you feel like LARPing as secret service. Anyone legitimately arguing this is a good first gun doesn't know shit
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>>33751795
>Implying a grand is even remotely close to being a large or worrisome amount of money

Poorfag pls go
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>>33751859
>for when you feel like LARPing as secret service.

Nigga....
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>>33751864
>I didn't even like having an extra thousand dollars! Honest, I swear!

Think about all the cool shit you could buy with 1k, then think about how shitty a PS90 is. I'm sorry you fell for the meme, but I'm sure you'll find some fellow fag who will scoop it right up

for 150 less than you paid for it
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>>33751859
>It doesn't follow the Official Gun Buying Formula® so it must be shit!!!
Fact: its a fun gun to shoot
Fact: it is easy to control
Fact: it's well built and reliable
Fact: it will kill someone within self defense range

If he can afford it, there's no reason not to get it
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>>33751907
>he doesn't make $60-80k a month selling broken shit to poor people
>laughing_sloots.webgif
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>>33751668
One of these days I'd like to get a Scar with a can. It's a remote dream though, shit's expensive. True story though, I think they're ugly as fuck. If an M1A could lose some weight and get over a few other hang ups it'd be my forever raifu.
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>>33751668
There is no one gun that is your best choice. If you like it, get it.

It is suggested that you find a range with rentals and see if they have one in stock.

>ammo is expensive
>triggers are kind of poor, but nothing outside of any other bullpup
>Comfy as fuck
>mags go for a decent price
>it is fun as hell to shoot (personally)

Getting a tax stamp($200) so you can SBR it is certainly in your interest.

Get what you like. Any gun is one you can learn around.
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>>33751907
>>33751795
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>>33751908
>>33751908
Wahhh! Just because it has no practical application doesn't mean it isn't a shitty first gun!!!

>fun gun to shoot
Yep enjoy your shit trigger, shit ergonomics, and shitty sights
But it's fun!
>No recoil
If you find that it would be advantageous to have something that recoils less than .223 you are a manlet
>well built
Kek enjoy oversized pistol caliber carbine that feels like a fucking toy
>lethal
Yes, so is .22wmr, 9mm, etc. All cost less and cause wound profiles about the same as 5.7. 5.56 or 12 gauge (calibers befitting a gun of this size) would be FAR better choices
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>>33751917
Didn't know you worked for FN, sweet!
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>>33751980
Buh buh buh but you guys secretly want it!
Yes it's all a big conspiracy! My PS90 isnt total dogshit, you guys are just JEALOUS!

Kek
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>>33751668
Im leaning towards getting the same thing OP, I got a AUG NATO and did not like it enough to keep it. I still want to like a cool bullpup. It's true, it's an odd first gun,
>>33751701
Don't listen to him, it suppresses well with subsonic, which is VERY expensive or you can reload 55grain 5.56 projectiles with medium fast pistol powder.
You can also get FA but it's expensive. The trigger, is not as bad as many bullpips but because of the nature of a bullpup it won't be a two stage timmny or anything.
>>33751713
Actually it fills a niche, FA is a meme. USSS issues it, and they rarely use FA, you can use semi and get the same results.
>>33751757
He's right, most of the ppl on here can't afford a ps90 so they revert to
> Lol meme gun
> Call of duty
> Normie go home
I would however recommend getting an AR or AK or even a 308 instead of the ps90, for meh ammo it will cost 40 cents a round, with shipping factored in. >>33751843
This guy is right, it will cost alot to make it look like ur picture OP, but the 5.7 round is alot of fun, and is fairly lethal in CQB, especially if you hit bone, and you're worried about overpenatration

I'm looking at pap m92, rfb, and tavor too, and I'm leaning towards getting the pap and the ps90. I like the idea of fully ambi controls and usability. Tavor, and AUG don't do that.

But
Get an AR or AK op, this is like my 20th gun and I already have scorpion Evo supressed, and it's a fun gun supressed.

I've always wanted the P90 since I saw Stargate, and it's a popular tv gun, if you really want it and can afford to fill may for 20-30$ then fine, it's a fun gun from my experience with it.
Not a good first gun because plinking and accuracy training will cost you quite a bit, if price isn't a facotr I would recommend getting a Zenith MP5, if you are going for practical. If you want to scratch an itch, it's up to you.
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>People are advocating a PS90 as a first gun

We get it, you think wasting $1000 makes you look """"rich"""" but this is a dude's first fucking gun we're talking about.
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>>33751864
A ps90 is one thing, but throwing money away on the one fragile gun FAN makes is pants on head retard level, unless, you like to buy a gun because it's cool and you need to scratch that itch.
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This sperg and his desperate shitposting is getting fun to watch.
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>>33752062
yup
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>>33752018
It's not dogshit, USSS uses it, so does alot of others. Only reason 5.7 isn't a NATO round is because the Germans tried to make a 4.x round to compete to replace the 9mm and we're BTFO by even the plain copper jacket lead core rounds first made by FN for use in the P90 as proof of concept.
>>33751993
> Look at me mom, I can Google "broken gun x!"
It's a crazy reliable gun, stoppages only one in every few thousand rounds, due to American eagle ammo, and that's on an old p90 at the range I used to work at.
Haven't bought one (yet) but it's certainly on my list. Even if you don't want it, it doesn't sound like you have any guns, let alone any worth more than 2k

Even old fuds like the gun. Pic related fav bullpup
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>>33752130
Oh, forgot the part where Germany used veto power to make sure the 5.7 wasn't included as NATO standard even though it was proven to be better than 9mm and HKs 4.x round
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>>33751993
I don't, I work for myself. Enjoy your 40 hour work week until you're 70, wage slave.
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>>33751959
>If an M1A could lose some weight and get over a few other hang ups it'd be my forever raifu.

M1A is big boned, she can't help it. Instead of trying to make her get lighter, you should get stronger, and become a man who can carry her.
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It was designed to use an armor piercing bullet that isn't for sale to the general public, so there's no reason at all to buy anything in 5.7mm. It just wasn't designed with civilian use in mind. Get something else.
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>>33752130
>USSS uses it!
Yes I can imagine a full auto ps90 that doesn't cost 200$ to sbr and has armor piercing bullets would do fairly well in its niche.

Still not a valid argument as to why the ps90 isn't an overpriced rifle for faggots and idiots
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>>33751864
Dude, you have ONE nice gun, and everything else is mediocre, and you bought the worst fucking scar you could. You probably shouldn't give advice. Also
>detachable carry handle
You dun fucked up
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>>33751864
>shitty entry level sig
>god awful holster
>removable carry handle "a2"
>Cheap as fuck m&p 15

Guys look how rich I am!
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>>33751864
lol is this supposed to be proof youre not a poorfag
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>>33752338
To be fair at least he has a gun unlike most of the thread
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>>33751668

I'm assuming you mean a P90S?
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>communists bitching about how hard working americans spend their money
Go back to Russia commies before I send you back in a shoebox.
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>>33752641
>"muh gommunists"

>Don't tell me I'm wasting my money when I ASK FOR ADVICE

Shoebox? Tommy it's a shinebox not a shoebox ya fucking fanook
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ITT
> NEETs with no guns try to weigh in on a Hollywood popular gun they've never held outside of COD/CS go
>>33752272
There is a transferable NFA seer on GunBroker right now.
I'm not storming buildings with any of my guns, or waiting in my gamer chair for SHTF. I don't need FA, otherwise I'd drop the 2.2k
Shitting on people for
> Reeee stop liking what I don't like /:can't have
Is seriously autistic. I don't think it's a good first gun, already said that. But it's a fun gun, and with vmax it's lethal to any body not wearing body armor. 5.7 is a nasty little round, AP doesn't mean much to me because I'm not a leetoperator like you who needs to defeat dragon skin armor, cover, and sealteam sex.
It's not a main battle rifle, it will do poorly in a role like that.
>>33752186
Just Google 5.7 please, do a little digging.
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>>33752720

2.2k autosear for a PS90?

So like the entire thing is cheaper than a MAC?
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>>33752186
Lots of projectiles are made without civilian needs in mind, like most of them
Here's a few
> 5.56
> 308
> 5.45
Get over your AP BABBYKILLIN PDW kick bro, lots of Law enforcement agencies use just the vmax hollow points, and anybody who's fired FA on a few types of guns can tell you that FA isn't that tactically sound in a single fighter role, and that FA often fills a role called suppression.
Jackass
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>>33752731
No, 2.2k for auto trigger pack, and 1.5k for the rifle, and then you need to change the barrel
All possible.
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>>33752773

I still think that's less than most MACs go for.
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>>33752275
>>33752338
>>33752520
thanks for the (You)s
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>>33751701
>suppressing supersonic ammo is still fucking loud.
I hate this fucking meme.
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>>33752813
Not him but you are correct. Most MACs these days go for $5000-$8000 depending on condition.
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>>33752888

I must be missing something about why getting together a legal FA P90 is cheaper than a sheet metal MAC.

Is it the ammo price?
Do not enough people like StarGate?
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>>33752813
>>33752888
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/640130410
Then it's less than a Mac
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>>33752988
He doesn't know what he's talking about is what's happening.
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>>33751709
Hey man, no biggie. we just dont like cawadooty kids asking what gun from their vidya they should buy.

I tell you what, if youve never bought a gun before, go buy one of the following:

Ruger 10/22 (ridiculously popular semiautomatic .22 cal plinker/small game hunting gun). this is the gun half of shooters learn on.

AR-15 (anything around $600-$700 is a fine starter gun, such as the DPMS Oracle or the Smith & Wesson M&P15, or perhaps one of the very nice $700-$900 Adams Arms AR-15s theyre selling at Academy Sports with optics included. good deal on those.) Learn how it works, its not self-explanitory if you havent shot before.

A bolt action rifle, anything from a Mauser to a Savage. These will kick like a mule if you get one in .308, but theres lighter .223 ones or you can pick up a .22 bolt action for dirt cheap.

A mossberg 500 in 12 guage. 12guage will also kick a lot but its an all-purpose round, from hunting to clay shooting to home defense.

A break-action shotgun in .410 guage/caliber. You can get single-shot .410's for literally $100 at practically any pawn shop and theyre excellent little squirrel/rabbit hunting guns.

Anons can add other good starter guns but these are what i'd reccomend for a new shooter. Always follow safety rules, wear eye and ear protection, and at least the first time you go to the range bring someone who already knows how to shoot and can teach you. Also watch gun videos on youtube, i cant think of any channels that do begginner tier tutorials but channels like Hickok45 and Forgotten Weapons/Inrange can teach you a lot about guns.

tl;dr read the sticky before you go shooting. have fun being hasguns m8
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>>33751668
>first gun
>neutered suppressed p90

>>>/v/
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>>33752839
>Hahahaha it's a meme it's a meme

God I hate this fucking faggot

https://www.google.com/amp/www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/03/jeremy-s/subsonic-vs-supersonic/amp/
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>>33753024
Fucking get out
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>>33753063
Except he's right

Fuck off with your shitty mosin memes
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i remember using P90s when I was a force recon marine working with Navy seals in iraq and afghanistan. hell of a gun, kicks very little but will bite those towel heads right in the butt real good. best for CQC
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>>33751668
>Is this a good starting weapon?
Depends on how much disposable income you have. 5.7 is expensive. You will want to SBR it which is both expensive and a PITA. Otherwise they are fun guns.

Might want something more... simple to start with.
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>>33752720
>>33752731
>>33752773
>>33752813
>>33752888
>>33753001
Enjoy 250,000$ fine and cozy cell with bubba

>Visible proof that 5.7fags are the stupidest kind of gun owner

Goddamnit you guys are retarded
"We found a loophole! Why would any one spend 8k on a pot metal MAC!"
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>>33752773
No thanks ATF, I like my asshole diameter less than 3 inches wide
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>>33753135
>Strawmanning this fucking hard
Holy fuck it's like you can't even read. You are fucking stupid.
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>>33753317
Sorry you thought you could get full auto ps90 for 2.2k without getting tyrones dick 8 inches up your butthole

>can't even read
Kek
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>>33753317
>accuses someone of not knowing how to read

>Doesn't understand what transferable means

There there faggot
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>>33753385
Where did I say that you fucking faggot?
Learn to read you shiteating nigger
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>>33753455
Mommy look I put nigger AND faggot in the same post!

Turn off the computer Jimmy, it's bed time
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>>33753489
>too retarded to learn how to read
>clutches this hard at deflection to save himself from looking stupid
Tippity toppest kek, newfag.
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Thanks for the laughs lil buddy.
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>>33752160
Mommy bring me my teddies,!!!!!
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The bottom of the barrel built in optic sucks if you wear glasses. It's difficult to acquire and difficult to see the reticle. Would opt for something with a real reflex sight, like a trijicon.
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