/brg/ Battle Rifle General

>>33745632
>stripper clip dust covers
sexy as fuck.

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Sorry OP, but this is the ideal FAL body. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like

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>>33745632
>>33745640
So much potential.

>>33745658
I always meant to ask.

What kind of stripper clips do these things take?

I've never found any clips for 7.62 NATO outside of some absurdly expensive Aussie stuff on Libertytree collectors.
So am I able to use old Mauser clips?

And Elcans?
Why are they shit?
I posted in the last thread but I guess it's dead now.

>>33745682
There's standard 5 round 7.62 NATO clips, you can use them on the M14 mags with a spoon and on FAL mags with a mag loader, I've got two of the loaders and a spoon I accidentally bought. I've also got a fucking gallon ziploc bag of clips+another 25 that I got a while ago

>>33745648
that gun is so fucking ugly

>>33745761
NCstar makes 10 round 308 stripper clips and they work fine for me

>>33745682
those guns dont exist

Elcans apparently have wandering zero

>>33745761
I thought the m14 itself could use stripper clips

>>33746205
stop this

Really the optic and barrel ruin it for me a bit, can't wait till they're both changed

>>33746218
I've got an insane amount of clips and I spent like 30 dollars total for em I think, interesting to know tho

>>33746226
It can but you can also load mags which is handy at the range

>>33746261
why are you sinking an absolute fortune into a gun that is simply not as good as a SCAR

Fuck, even FN made it because they couldn't make the FAL better

>>33745648
>>33746261
>swapping out the barrel on an FAL
>after all that's been spent on it already
wha fuck is the point?

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>>33746281
Won't be a barrel swap, I'm gonna get another upper and a barrel and move the lower so I can go back to fixed stock 21 on this upper

>>33746268
Because I like the FAL better than the Scar, and at this point I have 1.5 FALs that are both more enjoyable the basic factory Scar I could buy with the money I've already spent on FALs

>>33746298
>Because I like the FAL better than the Scar

obviously not considering everything you're doing to it is making it a SCAR

Your total cost will be 1.5 SCARs by the time you're done

>shoot fatass .308 c308 (g3 clone)
>thumps shoulder, completely disoriented
>have to take a sec to recollect my whits and get my sight back on target
>find myself flinching on empty shots
How do you guys do it?

>>33746307
Except it'll still handle nothing like a Scar and be more aesthetic doing it

And my total cost will probably be more like 2.5-3 Scars since this steel lower will be turned into a 50.63 when I find a different lower to complete my Tactifal project. And all 3 rifles will still be cooler than those factory Scars or one completely kitted out Scar

>>33746321
I'm glad you were here to tell us the C308 was in 308 and was also a G3 clone
We'd have never known

hold it tighter against your shoulder
how does shooting a gun disorient you
Let alone a 308

>>33746332
>Except it'll still handle nothing like a Scar

yeah objectively worse and heavier

you've ruined all aesthetics of the FAL by putting shoehorned AR parts on it

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>>33746354
>objectively worse and heavier
It'll be a few ounces heavier with hiduminium parts, lrn2lift

>ruined the aesthetics
This is a matter of opinion

>>33746366
>It'll be a few ounces heavier with hiduminium parts

except the heaviest parts were never made of hidinium so no it won't be

Also,
>hidinium

Oh, so you'll have a single FAL that costs more than a single SCAR
And you want multiples

What the fuck is point of owning an FAL if not for the looks?

It's objectively worse handling than the SCAR or other rifle, it's more expensive to shoot, more expensive magazines

You're buying the FAL for the aesthetics and collector value (as proven by you buying Hidinium and building a 50.63) yet you have neither

>>33746366
>keeps posting nice looking traditional FALs because he likes them
>doesn't like them
Is this retardism

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>>33746396
>single fal that costs more than a scar
I've priced it out, cost will be lower than a scar, if not just barely. Probably somewhere in the mid 2000s
>want multiple
One 21 fixed stock, one 50.63, one tactifun that I can use for high speed low drag .308 operating in a platform I like
>objectively worse handling
Train more. I prefer my FAL and AK ergos to AR or Scar
>more expensive to shoot
They both shoot 7.62x51 last I checked
>more expensive magazines
Are Scar mags cheaper than 15-20 now?
>buying the fal for aesthetics and collector value yet you have neither
Do you think I'm just gonna throw away my Stg 58 and Belgian para lower?

>>33746399
>doesn't like them
Where did you get this idea? I love traditional FALs, that's why I want another upper to rice so I can have my traditional one back

>>33746430
training doesn't change that the handling is worse you dumbass

>>33746444
>training doesn't change that the handling is worse you dumbass
This is the single dumbest thing I've heard all day. How hard do you think it is to use an FAL in the first place? Do you think rock-in magazines are literally impossible to use?

>>33746453
possible does not scale on a graph from easy to hard, dumbass

there are better and worse and the FAL is objectively worse

Do you really think for a second that FN would have changed it to a worse system?

>>33746298
This is how I want my first FAL to be. STG58 or G1, wood stock and bipod handguards.

Too bad my FALfiles account cant post. Saw a great one for $900 and another for $1000 like two weeks ago, missed out.

>>33746470
why not just direct message the seller

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>>33746458
I'm getting this weird feeling you've never used an FAL before, because the ergos are great. And why are you merely pretending that changing the entire internals of a gun would allow FN to keep the exact same ergos as the FAL? Especially when that rifle was developed to meet requirements posted by SOCOM, not the individual wants of the people at FN

>>33746470
Takes forever to get approved there, IKTF. There'll be more rifles though. I'd recommend the Stg 58 over the G1 just cause of the superior barrels

>>33746478
You can't do anything till your account is activated

>>33746478
Cant do that either. The option isn't there.

>>33746488
Oh no don't worry, I own one and I like the ergos, but great is still worse than the SCAR and other rifles

>>33746488
Good to know. I've got $1000 I don't mind spending on standby for whenever the time is right so I can jump without hesitation.

I keep seeing good shit on AKfiles though....

I also want to sell my CETME sporter and buy a PTR91 while they're on sale. Doubt I can get very much for it though

>>33745648

>no wood, all synthetic, boxy no countours, revealing anime power level.

Your gun, I get that. But shit man show some restraint.

What are you gonna do with that furniture anyways.

>>33746496
how many burgers, does it work, and what furniture

>>33746494
>still worse than
Again, train. Ergos are literally all user opinion. I don't like the Scar layout, handled them, haven't shot unfortunately, but I'm not a fan of the layout. I'm not really a fan of anything that's laid out like an AR, but I'm not gonna trash the AR just because of my preferences

>>33746496
Get the FAL, I don't really talk about it but deep down my FAL has kinda topped my AK for absolute favorite rifle. Still love my AK to death tho

>>33746500
It's just gonna be moved, not a hard process or anything which is what baffles me about people complaining
>WHY DID YOU CHANGE IT????
Other than the fact that Vltor seems to have fucked up and made one of the screws a PITA everything is just a simple furniture swap

Keychain is just a ziptie so I could cut it if I want, but where's the fun in having it if it doesn't wear it?

>>33746518
>if you train that negates the fact that other things are better

You have shit arguments

>>33746520
>what is familiarization
>what is preference
Ergos isn't a 1-10 scale, it's literally all preferences and familiarization. But you knew that right?

>>33746508
Idk, I was going to try it on armslist here for $700 and see what I can get. 2 steel CETME mags, 2 aluminum G3 mags, sling, and bayonet.

Mine seems to be a rare one that functions flawlessly. I've put ~500 rounds of Wolf and brown bear through it. Peg water bottles at 100 yards disappointingly fast, run out of targets in about a minute.

Right now it is wearing green G3 furniture. It has the wood butt and handguard, but for whatever reason, the backplate on it is from a G3 and the wood stock doesn't fit in it correctly. The previous owner had used two wood screws to hold it but it obviously wobbled. I spent about $40 in all the small buttstock parts to try to fix it and then gave up because it was cheaper to put the surplus G3 furniture on it.

>>33746526
Where do you get mags? There are some on gunthings that are in excellent condition but they're Israeli and have Jew runes on them.

>>33746596
FAL Files, I have 6 right now but I really need to get some more since I sold 2 of the ones I had

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Which stock looks better, top or bottom?

>>33746820
Bottom one, top looks like it has a massive repair

>>33746827
Yeah, it's called a ferrule cap. The kind on the bottom had a tendency to crack, so they started making them with the cap things. I actually sort of like it but yeah... bottom looks better doesn't it?

>>33746854
That's not what I meant, look at the wood grain shift in the middle, it could just be the shit lighting but it looks like someone did a repair to the stock. My FAL stock has the same type of repair

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>>33746873
Hmm, okay I see what you mean now. I should have been more specific in my question. Ferrule cap or no? Picture attached is significant. I'll post another one for the other type.

>>33746902
I prefer no ferrule cap > >>33746298 You can also see the repair I was talking about on my stock close to the receiver

>>33746820
The top one has some sweet burly grain. Refinish it a bit and you'll have a nice looking piece of...Oak i think?

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>>33746902
Here's the other style. This is going to be for an IMBEL/IMBEL (Type 3) build, if that makes any difference.

>>33746921
I like that a lot. I'm guessing that problem is what they were trying to solve with the cap?

>>33746928
>Oak i think?
I have no idea.

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>>33746985
No idea, but that'd sound about right, just trying to strengthen up where the stock connects to the receiver. I doubt it'll be a problem though, seems like something that'd be more to prevent you from hitting something and snapping the stock rather than just stress from firing

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>>33746444

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>>33745632

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>>33748411

>>33746332
>Turning a standard lower into a para lower

It will cost more than just buying a para lower.

>>33746526
Ergonomics is more than just what you like. A G3 is an ergonomic shit show, doesn't matter how much training or how much you like it. An AR style rifle, no matter how much you might loathe it, has better ergonomics

What's a BV-8 Night vision scope worth? I found one that I bought for $100 and it's in nice shape but it doesn't have a battery so idk if it works.

It has the claw mount for a g3, the scope itself, and the illuminator.

>>33748681
>What's a non functional thing worth?
Would you pay $100 if it was not repairable?

>>33745632
Ok I posted in SQTDDTOT but no one replied...Just how prohibitive is the cost of a FAL or any of its variants? If it's too pricey, are there any alternatives I could find easily/cheaply instead?

>>33750881
FALs will generally cost upwards of $1000. You can build or find used ones for around that much and then the price goes up as you get nicer or rarer parts. DSA is generally considered OK, but overpriced.

>>33750881
>>33751566
If you're looking at alternatives, PTRs are pretty good G3 clones that sit around $1000 give or take a bit depending on the model. AR10s can be had or built for about that much and the price can go way up depending how nice you want it to be. SCARs are around $3k now if you're looking to spend that much. M1as are generally pretty overpriced. As always, avoid Century guns.

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I'm considering buying a pacific armament corporation Imbel FAL. It comes with 2 20 round magazines and the L2A2 SUIT sight. Asking price is $1400. Is that a reasonable amount? Pic related.

>>33751607
>>33751566
I can definitely live with $1000
Thanks a lot! I got worried there for a minute because I keep hearing conflicting information that some FALS cost upwards of having two SCARs.
Idk what that's about, but be a specific model or time period I guess?

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Should I turn my L1A1 into a C1 clone? Or should I just get some nice blonde wood for it and a SUIT?

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>>33751992
Sounds pretty good to me.

>>33752026
Maybe if you were buying some sort of super rare kit or an actual FN. It'll generally be a bit above $1000 when all is said and done but it's a good starting point.

>>33752196
Do it.

Do you guys know what load matches a standard sized FAL? I'm talking about what round will match the range settings on the rear sight.

>>33752250
Which one? C1 or L1 build?

>>33752441
C1 like that pic.

>>33752026
>some FALS cost upwards of having two SCARs
That's what happens when you get buyer's remorse about your legacy battle rifle and try to turn it into a SCAR via aftermarket parts.
If you like the FAL for what it is, it's not nearly that much of a money pit.

>>33754743
>howcos don't exist
kek

>>33752026
There are FALs that expensive but unless you're on some insane collector shit you're probably not gonna come across them

>>33752265
Most 7.62 ball was around the 150gr weight.

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So I stole this from the Family photos thread. What the actual fuck is that 5.56 FAL. Who made such a thing?

Tell me everything.

>>33754870
Variants of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMBEL_MD

>>33754870
Red Rock Arms ATR-1

>>33754882
Is it a shit?

>>33745632
I want one so fucking bad :(

>>33745648
>even /brg/ hates your FAL
k e k

>>33754892
I think I was wrong on this one. >>33754888 is probably right here. I've seen some of the BR ones posted on /k/ before though.

>>33754912
/brg/ is dumb as fuck half the time tho. Case in point >>33746399

>>33754917
The imbel ones don't work well cause they're rotating bolt and I don't think there's even any over here. If there are they're ridiculously rare. I believe Red Rock is the only people who really got it to work right

>>33754933
>/brg/ is dumb as fuck half the time tho
true enough, they do prefer FALs after all.

>>33754933
I saved a pic that I'm pretty sure was one of the BR ones. It's on my other computer though. I'll post it tomorrow if I'm right.

>>33754956
>they do prefer FALs after all.
>pic related
IME the only people bitching are the same people who don't understand that you can own multiple rifles or do a furniture swap

>>33754963
If there are some here that'd be neat, cause like I said all I've heard about them is Imbel scrapped the project when a rotating bolt wouldn't fit in the FAL receiver

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>>33754977
>forgot the pic

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Fuck FALs make my peepee so hard.

I am a poor college fag but might get a job this summer and maybe I'll be an absolute tard and blow all my savings on a FAL.

What's the cheapest FAL that isn't a piece of garbage that has good aesthetics (Wood preferred)?

>>33755088
Stg58 or Imbel kit builds, if you wait around you can probably get one for as low as 900, but 1200 is a more realistic number. Good luck getting metric wood though, sets are expensive and relatively hard to come by for surplus. More likely outcome is you'll spend between 100-200 on a pistol grip and stock as a set, maybe cheaper if you get lucky, and then wait around looking for a wood handguard if you really want one

>>33756573
>when your try to make the FAL into a DMR and the ghost of Dieudonné Saive tittypunches you for your impudence

>>33756573
Closes eyes when pulling the trigger kek

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>>33756591

>>33754870
I saw a century arms stamped one but the receiver said Springfield armory. About 4 years ago in a gunstore in yuma az for 700$. Shoulda fucking bought it, so much regret I didn't know shit back then except century bad and it had the butthole stock which totally killed it for me. I've never seen or even heard of such a thing again, I think they fuckin had two of them. God take this weight off my chest.

>>33752510
That's an L1A1.

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>>33760877
That pic is a C1 made in Canada.

Has this video been posted yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao77XBDNIqc

>>33760927
I didn't think the Commonwealth patterns were made outside of Europe

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>>33761406
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L1A1_Self-Loading_Rifle

>>33761428
Fair enough.

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>>33760927
No, it isn't. That's my actual Britbong L1A1. The jacket is just my old issued spare field jacket. Pic related, mine on the right, Indian dewat I saved and sold to a buddy on the left.

>>33761581
No friend, I mean the pics I posted when I responded to you:
>>33752250
>>33760927

Anyone interested in cheap reproduction Fereday and Sons chest rigs?

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>>33761989
I might be. How much and can you post some pics?

>>33762071
how do you like the PTR? considering an AK or one as my next purchase

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>>33762089
I love mine. I like my AKs too but my PTR is my favorite.

>>33762105
I have an AR-15 right now, and I don't have a semi auto 308
I really like the roller locks, but the ak would be a more economical purchase
I've considered selling my ar and getting a scar and ak instead, but not sure if I want to do that, I like my ar quite a bit
have you had any issues with it?

>>33762089
FAL > AK > PTR

>>33762148
fal never really attracted me personally

>his bolt tilts

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>>33762182
Gross

>>33762071
Email me.

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>>33762140
Nah, my PTR has been flawless so far. I've got somewhere around 750 rounds through it at this point. Don't sell your AR if you like it though.

>>33762335
what made you not get the railed version?

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>>33762376
I wanted a more traditional G3 look. The CETME cocking tube irks my autism, but it was worth it for the paddle release.

>>33762408
I could sell my ar-15 and buy an hk-91 instead?

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>>33762595
>I could sell my ar-15 and buy an hk-91
Do this

The only fal manufacturer I am familiar with is DSA what are some other good ones?

>>33762628
Howco

>>33762622
or a scar?

>>33762662
T B H I'd buy an HK-91 over a Scar just because fondling a Scar left me wanting more. HK-91 has more collector status

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Any PovertyTierRifle owners going to order the franklin HK binary trigger?

>$700

>>33762703
Other than the scar being a bit blocky it's great to me
I wish the bolt release was ambi though

>>33762730
Didn't Franklin get BTFO over their AR trigger copying the echo tho?

>>33762730
i wish they would make a binary trigger for the cz evo scorpion but i guess its trigger pack design doesnt lend to the binary mod. atleast not easily.

>>33762740
It's a good gun but it still feels basically like a big AR to me. If I was only interested in having top tier performing rifles I'd get one but I'd rather just shoot well with guns that interest me

>>33762742
Having shot both the franklin is far better than the echo
>>33762756
>Evo
Now thats what I call poverty

>>33762766
true that
it did feel like a piston ar sorta now that u mention it

>>33762833
That plus they'll always be making Scars. Stock up on the rare shit now

>>33762806
Neat, I meant legally tho, I thought Fostech too Franklin to court. Unless it's already settled and I never heard

>>33762890
the only reason I was considering a scar in the first place is because they seem to have went back to the 2700 range

>>33762899
3k is still enough to buy a Howco 50.63 last time I saw a few

Just depends what you want tho, it's your money

Hey /brg/ I've already googled around and just got confused. Is there any CA_legal rifles that look like a FAL? I don't care how cucked it is in terms of functionality, I have an AR-10 amongst many other practical rifles, I really want the aesthetics and don't really care what sacrifices need to be made for that.

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>>33762766
Your thought process sounds a lot like mine.

>>33763042
FAL with no mag release, mag fixed to receiver, and stripper clip top cover

>>33762628
Imbel still makes them in Brazil. We should get the Donald to let us import them again.

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Uh oh.

https://www.dsarms.com/t-safetynotice.aspx

>>33763180
I thought the bullets were supposed to come out of the barrel? what gives anon?

>>33745648
all that money and work
and you still have a 4 moa gun

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I don't know why people say my stock isn't comfy. I quite like it. Feels just fine and looks better than the Ugg.

>>33763698
his way is faster

>>33763180

>https://www.dsarms.com/t-safetynotice.aspx

Good thing I have an STG-58. 18" Para Congo. I should really take a pic or two.

>>33763992
Do it.

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>>33764079

Done.

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>>33763825
>A2 grip
>no handguard extension
>Or VFG/AFG/Handstop
>no optics

IDK about looking better like that. Some do. But the boot is based.

>>33764527

>aftermarket pistol grips for SCARs fit really badly with gaps errywhere
>no need for a handguard extension, I'm not Chris Costa


You're right, though. I do need an optic. I'd have one, but I just put $5,000 on my car. I'm trying to become debt free ASAP, so my gun collection has to suffer for a little while.

>>33764607
Good thing there are specific SCAR grips, services to mod grips to the SCAR lower, and it comes with an easy to mod lower to fit AR grips if you dont want to mod the grip.

So you grip the rails with no covers? Gloves errytime? Not that the side plastic covers are very sharp

>>33763180
RIP DSA

>>33764699
DSA was always mid-tier

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I got offered a Lionheart LH9 with five mags and an EAA Windicator (yeah I know but I know someone with one and figure it could make a good beat around/truck gun) with two speed loaders and a holster (he didn't specify in the original email) for my CETME with 11 mags, should I?

>>33765137
1998-2004 era it was pretty goddamned good, but thats been a long, loooonnnggg time ago
The LMT made DSA branded receivers are GOAT

>>33765154
That seems fair; it really boils down to whether you want the LH9 and Windicator or the CETME more.

>>33745648
>That grip and trigger guard space
Disgusting

>>33765279
I was looking for a double stack 9mm and the Lionheart was on my list, as for the Windicator I've fingerfucked a family members one and it seems alright for a budget .357 and he hasn't complained about his. Fuck it, I think I might go for it.

>>33764669

I use a Troy aluminum vert grip on the front. I don't have it in the pic, but I use that and don't deal with heat issues on my hands.

>>33765555
It's more that picatinny sections are aggressive on the hands. The SCAR is pretty good on heat

>>33763721
"I bought a PTR!"

>>33759271
Why is your table made of floor tiles?

>>33765527
Guy emailed me pictures, lh9 looks good just with a little holster wear. I'm going for it.

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Bumping with my big toys since I haven't posted the new vepr in one of these threads yet.
The MAS is probably the only one that counts as a battle rifle for sure, but I'll let /brg/ fight over whether they want to call the vepr battle rifle-ish material or not. Every rifle here has essentially the same function, only differences being a few inches of barrel. They all have side-scope rails. But the vepr is the only one that can take 20+rd mags.
>>33762766
>>33763062
>If I was only interested in having top tier performing rifles I'd get one but I'd rather just shoot well with guns that interest me
Me too, that's why my whole collection is the way it is. Being an interesting gun overall plays a huge part in whether I buy something or not.

>>33764527
>no handguard extension
Go away Chris.

>>33770437
Go away manlet

>>33770477
SOCOM doesn't need your silly extension grips chris, your not getting my money.

>>33770495
Your projecting has become so intense, that you have become unintelligible. Slow down and use more words to explain your point.

>>33746526
liking things do not make them better

>>33746537
it functions with G3 mags?

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>>33770495
but that's wrong

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Someone needs to sell me an FAL upper with a 16.25 barrel already installed

>>33772726
https://www.dsarms.com/p-16253-dsa-fal-sa58-1625-complete-ctc-barreled-upper-assembly-para.aspx

>>33773177
>short gas
Fucking disgusting. I've got someone offering me a LNIB forged DSA for 565 shipped so I'm gonna see what it'll cost me to have it cut to 16.25 and threaded into a receiver

>>33773177
It's almost insulting that DSA thinks their shit is worth that much.

>>33773212
Damn I wish I knew people like that offering FALs like that. You in Ohio by chance?

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>>33773461
Nope, way down in Florida

>>33745682
This motherfucker again.

Can FALs work without a gas tube like an AK or will I blow off my handguards and burn my hands?

It wouldn't be a permanent thing.
Just a stopgap while I wait on my gas tube.

>>33773973
Yeah, it's probably fine.
You may want to wear a welding glove on your support hand for the first shot, though, just to be safe.

>>33774017
Will do.
If anything goes wrong I'll report back.
It may be a few days though.

>>33774053
Just set your gas dial all the way to 7 so it vents everything off anyways, should be fine

>>33773973
You didnt get a gas block with the tube installed?

>>33765137
>>33764699
I mean they are doing free retrofits so....

>>33774096
I busted it...
I managed to get the thread portion out and was gonna just rethread it and be on my merry way, but it's bent and I also don't have the right size die/tap/whatever the fuck it is (can't remember that the top of my head)

I have a new one but the soonest I'll be able to test fire it due to job constraints is some time before the tube will arrive.

I haven't even managed to get a mag yet but some local stores sell them.

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Do people still buy DSA?

>>33774190
Old DSA is good. I'm looking at buying another one right now

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>>33774159
should've gotten an AR
can't break an AR gas tube on purpose

>>33774221
Yep.

But FALs are more ergonomic, have a nicer more adjustable gas system, have cooler accessories, and are more fun to build.

Just like an AK.

On another note though, I'll finally get to try an AR with sights soon.
A buddy is going with me for the rest and wants to test his AR build as well.
So it ought to be fun.

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/brg/ is a fal circle jerk and I wish I could join but they're banned in my state.

How's my collection for a shit state? Any recommendations?

>>33774393
Well, FAL rifles are one letter away from FAIL for a reason.

>>33774462
Well I want one because someone says I can't.

breaking news
the desert tech mdr has been delayed to mid-may, with assurances that it'll definitely be shipping before june
woo

>>33774893
Fucking Kek.
>>33774393
>Ljungman/Hakim
You lucky bastard.
I'm jelly af.
>>33774462
>one letter from FAIL for a reason
Because they're not a fail?

>>33774393
buy a SCAR

>>33776605
I've thought about it. Now that my boss is at work less I might try to get more hours in and get one

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Tell me how dumb I am for not spending the extra to get the furniture with this

Just got a SCAR 17. What optics should I get for it? Just got back from weapon qual and my M4 had an ACOG on it. I really liked it. Would an ACOG for .308 be a good sight to use?

>>33776720
That furniture is ugly; you deserve better.

>>33776740
It has an interesting aesthetic tho, plus rare

I'm just concerned about the MD, it looks like it's non-removeable

>>33776720
Why is Israeli furniture so damn ugly?

>>33776735
Swarovski Z8i BRT-I 1-8x24

>>33776861
>Swarovski Z8i BRT-I 1-8x24
>optic costs as much as the gun itself

>>33776866
suck less
or more, if you're really that hard up for cash

>>33776866
That's the rule of thumb, isn't it? That you should spend at least as much on glass as you did on the gun?

>>33776895
Not that I can't afford it. But that's still pretty damn expensive.

>>33776905
Does that still apply when you spent $2,700 on it?

A perfect example of an FAL. If you don't have an account, you won't be able to get one before it's gone.

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=414013

>>33776909
Yes, always.
Besides, good glass is an end in itself, and the Swarovski is great glass.
Crystal clear, fast on 1x, as light or lighter than many 1-4x scopes, useful illuminated reticle, it's got everything you could reasonably want in a scope for a multi-mission capable heavy carbine like the SCAR.

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>>33776720
Looks good man.

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>>33745648

>>33777026
haha so fanny :dd

>>33764209
I liek your gun. wuts it called?

>>33777015
If I sell my PRO I might pick up the handguards just for fun if he'll give them to me for a deal, then whenever you've got cash I sell em to you so long as I'm not like 5 minutes from homeless or something

>>33777526
Actually maybe not, I just found a dude who had a set earlier this month and he only wanted 175 for handguards and stock. I fuckin knew that dude wanted too much for some LB handguards

>>33773469
Damn I was gonna say I'd take that FAL lol.

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>>33778311
Lmao for real? I was checking my WTB right under it for a 16 when he posted it up, I knew I had to jump on it when he said it was built on an LMT. After I sell the lower too I'll have saved money vs buying a receiver+parts+barrel+work

Finally gonna have my fixed 21 back and a dedicated tactical FAL. What sucks though is I leave town next week so I'm gonna have to have a friend pick it up and I'll have to wait to get home to play with it

>>33778415
Did 'G-Series w. Scope' really not have a carrying handle?

>>33778469
No clue, it's possible there was a mix of type 1 and 2 receivers I guess, but some of these lists were kinda wonky so I wouldn't go by them, I just like the aesthetics

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>>33777696
Jesus, that's a pretty big difference.

>>33778469
It's got an extra-large carry handle attached to the dust cover.

>>33750881
I have a C308 and she's a shooter. Had some problems when I first used it but after a good cleaning she works like a charm. I don't get all the hate on Century Arms, it's kinda like glock I guess... the C308 runs 500-600 and the parts/mags are cheap af. Ammo is a bit expensive, buy in bulk

>>33779877
Ammo is just like 50cpr for the cheap stuff, and 75-100 for the food stuff

>>33746345
Just a minor case of PTSD

>>33779877
>I don't get all the hate on Century Arms, it's kinda like glock I guess...

It's nothing like the glock meme. Century has a long history of many shitty products with the C308 being no exception. You just got lucky with yours.

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>>33745632
Anything bad about the Century Arms R1A1? Have a furriend im gonna buy one off for ~$750-800

>>33780178
Potentially a host of issues

>>33780201
Ive read that they are built with IMBEL parts. Unless you have any actual experience, credible information dont spread misinformation because you dont like other century guns.

>>33780252
Nigga, just because some of the parts are decent doesn't change the fact that there's a whole other host of problems that comes up in trying to use metric parts for an pattern inch gun.

Century deserves the retarded monkey reputation they have.

>>33780273
Source for what you just spewed? Im not going to just take your word for it.

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>>33780283
First of all, let's just look at these posts:
>R1A1
>Imbel parts
It really makes you think.

Second of all:
http://fnforum.net/forums/fn-fal/12466-hey-all-you-fal-experts-out-there-help.html

http://www.l1a1.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=3068091

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/century-intl-arms-fal-r1a1.209655/

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226670

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=395689

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393328

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=384351

http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/notes/notes-fal-rev-cai/notes-fal-rev-cai.html

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=369329


These are just a few examples. What it comes down to is that you may get lucky on your roll of the dice and get something that works. What's much more likely is that you'll get a gun that will require some modifications to even get remotely reliable. If you feel comfortable doing some home gunsmithing then go for it. The bright side is that the problems are pretty well documented at least. Good luck to you if you decide to buy it.

>>33779251
Yea I found a few that were pretty big price differences. Might be worth using that to make the dude I told you about an offer

>>33780461
Thank you I appreciate the effort

>>33780461

>>R1A1
>>imbel parts
>it really makes you think.

in some of your links they talk about how century switched from using cast US made recievers "unibrows" to imbel recievers because of the issues with cast recievers.

>>33780662
They did use both for the R1A1 builds and the Imbels are generally considered a safer bet but can still have issues. What you quoted was just me pointing out that Century was doing Inch builds on a Metric receiver.

>>33780691
Ah I see.
I keep reading about unibrow feed ramp cuts and how their imbel recievers have two feed ramp cuts but i dont know the difference.
I assume the thing in your original post was a unicut but what do two feed ramps look like? Is it like an AR-15 cut with two notches or something?

>>33780768
Basically. The actual geometry can differ between different patterns and manufacturers though.

Someone is selling clipped and pinned G3 lowers on FAL files:

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=414041

I find it terribly sad that someone is going to demand evidence that CAI put out lemons on a routine and consistent basis. At least the newfag took being told well. But holy fuck. Do a little legwork before you just spout off at the mouth

>>33780871
Century has both good and bad products, you autistic fucks need to get over it.

>>33780937
Name one good product that Century built. Complete imported rifles don't count.

>>33780963
Meant to say guns, not rifles.

>>33780937
Name three

>>33780972
Their hk33 carbines aren't bad, their newer c308s aren't bad, and newer c39v2s aren't bad.

>inb4 he regurgitates information about rifles older than 10 years ago

The company has come a long way from the 90's fellas.

Is the DSA SA5821S-A the closest thing I can get to an actual FN FAL without paying $5k+ for an 80s import?

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r8

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>>33781304
Sure

>>33781310

I have an SA58 so I'm going to tell you yes, they are great, and they're the only rifles that come come close to/are the highest standard of the design.

Totally not biased testimony.

>>33781304
>C93 and C308
Century cannot fucking figure out how to headspace these things. I've seen shit tons of people post issues with their C93s, usually having to be fixed by a gunsmith. They're basically glorified parts kits. If you watch the full video of the webm that the other guy posted, he had a broken firing pin amongst a bunch of other problems. I wish I had that one picture of the C308 that kaboomed because the trunnion they used was completely fucked.

>C39v2
You mean that piece of shit that still uses cast bolts and bolt carriers? Fuck I've seen multiple examples of the piston snapped because not only are they made using shitty materials, they have fucking "lightening cuts" that just completely compromise it by design.

>>33781330
Where do I get one?

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>>33745648
>putting an AR-style stock and a Magpul grip on a FAL

>>33782379
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B9DKBSS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

>>33782467
Just wait till I have a 16 :^

>>33782516
Where can I get that picture not on a mug?

>>33782597
How the fuck would I know I just liked the mug m8

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>>33782597
Here's the closest thing I can find. I'm struggling to find a higher res version though.

How much would a UK compliant (straight pull) FAL cost?

>>33746205
you're so fucking ugly. :P

I loathe G3s and all stamped metal guns in general
Binary trigger coming out for HK roller guns
Shit
Price check on an hk21

>>33783808
>Price check on an hk21
SCAR money for semi, Porsche money if it's full retard

>>33784297
If he wants the binary trigger for it, then I think that mostly rules out looking for full auto.

>>33765137
Compared to what?

>>33774393
>Ar10a2
Luckyyy. I'm thinking about grabbing a DEF10 and changing the barrel out for a 20" one

>>33781333
Wow, really nice digits.

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What's the difference between type 1 and 2 FAL lowers? Not the uppers, those are pretty easy to see.

>>33786863
My
Fucking
Dick