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>>33741197
>how can we make gun ownership appealing to lgbt folks?
Offer free self defense and firearms familiarity courses.

>>33741197
>lgbt gun group

Fuck off to lbgt

Bye now.

>>33741247
>cant even get the 4-letter acronym right

>>33741241
Good idea. I know of some trainers who are friendly and willing to teach, but how would I even convince them to do that for free?

Not really an expert myself desu

>>33741197

>how do I teach Anti-fa how to use guns

BLEASE STOBBBB

>>33741197

Distance the lgbt community from the left and everything pertaining to it. Because at the moment it's so heavily tied into the Democrat party, the party's ideals are being injected into it and turning members into a politically aligned organization instead of the neutral that would be ideal for it.

>>33741269
Offer a short beginners course for free and once they are hooked offer a more advanced course at full price, the instructors could charge for gun rental and ammo so they are not actually losing money.

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>>33741271
Not antifa m80. I hate those faggots too. Besides, they support the very people who want to push for firearm regulations out the ass. Irony is a foreign concept to them.

>>33741321

As long as you remind them that the left has no interest in preserving their 2A rights, and if they ban guns, there's no fighting back against the communist dictator that will follow

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>>33741291
I get it. But the whole LGBT thing is associated asbeing socially left-leaning. So I guess you could appeal to more of a libertarian aspect?

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>>33741348
OR against the Islamist's who will continue to attack their nightclubs, community centers and other places.

>>33741368

That would be for the best. Then lgbt would take less flak from the right wing and might even gain support from it. This would make entry and acceptance into 2A centric groups much easier.

>>33741197
Actual faggot here. I love guns. Pretty much always have, as long as I can remember. I think it's important for other members of the LGBTQABCDEFG community to understand that guns aren't just good for massacring us in nightclubs, and that when we are armed, we can shoot back. Queer people need to understand, like everyone else needs to understand, that on its own, the gun is an inanimate object incapable of evil. The evil in a mass shooting isn't the weapon, it's the person firing it. Queer people need to understand that we can use guns to protect ourselves against those who would do us harm- in addition to their many other utilities such as hunting, pest control and recreation. In short, queer people who are unfamiliar with weapons need to be familiarized. This is best done through someone we trust- family members, close friends or even other queer people who have already seen the light. If more queer people can be convinced to try guns, more queer people will be comfortable with them. But the first step is for the groups who want to preserve gun rights to open up a little and let us in.

>>33741416
So if your brother or your son or your best friend is some kind of faggot, tranny or crossdresser, take them to the range. Maybe then they'll see guns aren't so scary after all.

Explain to them that guns are scurry salt rifles but tools to be used y responsible adults, If some of them are drug addicts or just morons in general don't include them, theyre more likely to hurt themselves or an innocent person.

Use examples like the nightclub shootings and similar things to motivate (scare) them into protecting themselves

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>>33741416
Appealing to the rights of an individual and that queers are people too would basically be the message summed up. It would be a huge influence and active pro-2A organizations would start to accept us.

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Oh boy howdy, are you ready to rage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XToCGELE9iY

>>33741252
>>cant even get the 4-letter acronym right

That's right. I have zero respect for it or the people or politics it represents. Never have never will. You want a gun? Fine. That's fuck all to do with genitalia or what you do with it. Sort your fucking single dimension existence out and in the meantime fuck off.

>>33741515
Please tell me they're joking. Please tell me this is a parody. Don't let it be real. If the victims had been armed, they wouldn't have been victims.

>>33741197
Be the queer you want to see in the world.

I am serious. If you want to change the perception of guns/gun owners, then be the exemplar of type. That's the first step. The next is to restrain yourself from being a pushy evangelist about it (this is coming from a wacko Bible-reading fundi, by the way), as that will alienate people.

>>33741197
You really need to work hard to get a "community" started, ya fag.
There are too many in the LGBT community who associate love of weaponry with neofascists and neocons.
In order to appeal to the those with alternative sexual preferences, you need to first break the myth that anyone who isn't a card-carrying democrat hates gays. If you start a gun/weaponry club that focuses on teaching gays, and others, how to defend themselves, maybe they'll learn that guns are just tools and not a political talking point.

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>>33741579
They aren't.

>>33741515
IRA hard-core murderer commie propaganda shot next to crying faggot attention whore youtube footage.

>>33741569
>>33741607
>>33741619

Part of the (theoretical) group's purpose, or any group like it, is to break the identity politics surrounding both LGBT's and gun owners. Identity politics is cancer and has fugged over more than just gun ownership.

>implying I'm making my connection to guns/queers as single dimensional
>implying the right to self defense is single dimensional
yeah you can fuck off

>>33741634
Is this why conservatives hate us so much? Why the fuck do all these other faggots have to be retards? Then again, traditionally gun-owning groups- namely conservatives- are traditionally anti-gay, which drives gay people to extreme liberalism for the sake of being treated like people, and then maybe they just adopt the antigun foolishness to fit in or from brainwashing, making conservatives hate them less on religious grounds and more for behaving like stupid shit stains, thus continuing the cycle.

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>>33741247
Man, it's like you WANT the grabbers to win.
Every single fucking person should own guns.
Then grabbers are crazy fringe weirdos.

Don't let your politics ruin the greatest right we all have.

>>33741291
>>33741407
This guy is making a fuckload of sense.

>>33741515
PAINFULLY RETARDED.

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>>33741696
It's indescribably frustrating. Just gotta break the cycle by calling bullshit on the types speaking in the video.

I've met people similar to them that thought guns were somehow intimidating, unnecessary, or off-putting but I believe it was because they were associating gun owners as being homophobic/ staunchly conservative rather than, you know, a person like them.
As a previous person stated, you kinda have to make yourself the exemplar

>>33741696
You may be on to something. There are very strong social pressures that go along with assorted political or identity groups. Think about how often the term "Uncle Tom" gets thrown around whenever a black person dares to disagree with the Democrat party line.

Is there a gay equivalent to that?

>>33741746
Yep. There isn't a term for the equivalent of a gay "Uncle Tom", but if you out yourself as such you're seen as either

a) self loathing
b) thirsty for cuckservative cock
c) someone who has a problem with """toxic masculinity"""
d) all of the above

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Hop off a building

>>33741769
Seems like the rational LGBT elements really need to splinter off from the intersectional turbolib group. Like a movement to "come out" as conservative.

>>33741676
>>implying I'm making my connection to guns/queers as single dimensional

Yeah it is. You whole life is viewed though a fairly narrow perspective on what your genitalia are for. All lbqhjkbjk are one dimensional bores. Get a gun if you want one. Enjoy. Try and remember not to fall and land with it in your ass.

>all these pricks arming the enemy
Day of the rope soon

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>>33741813
>uncomfortable with vulnerable individuals using their 2A rights to defend themselves
>not wanting more allies

How's the weather in Mosul, Ahmed?

>>33741813
>'muh degeneracy'

Fuck off, shall not be infringed, back to >>>/pol/, the usual.
The 2nd amendment is available to every american who wants to take advantage of it, and every gun owner who understands it's uses and supports it is another defense against the authoritarians trying to disarm us. It doesn't matter if they're fags, trannies, asians or niggers, they're all more votes that can be turned to a pro-gun society.

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>>33741813
Somehow you managed to be the biggest fag in a thread about guns for gays.

Congratulations.

>>33741861
Go home, boat peo/pol/

>>33741854
this guy is right

>>33741861
The greatest victory is to make a strong ally. This is politics 101 stuff. Have you ever changed a person's mind? Or actually helped your own causes?

>>33741769
Interesting. I have one friend who complains of feeling like a "bad gay" sometimes.

>>33741197
This shit....this kind of shit is why you faggots get treated like trash.

Stop trying to start your own super secret faggot clubs, and just join a normal gun club and act normal.

If you can't be a normal human for a couple hours a month, you need help.


Like seriously, why does every aspect of your life have to revolve around you being a faggot? No one cares if your gay, and the people who do are fuckin useless nosy fucks.

Just join a normal club or if you want to go shoot with friends go shoot with friends, but the whole "MUH LGBTQXYZ only club!" Is part of the reason people hate you, you segregate youself. you want to be treated normal? Mingle with normies.


You can take bills duck down your thoat every day, and still function around everyone els.

You can be the most incredible faggot, just stuffing dicks of all shapes, sizes, and colors into your asshole. And guess what, as long as you don't go to work and tell everyone "HEY LOOK AT ME I'M A PRETENTIOUS NARSASISTIC FAGGOT WHO NEEDS ATTENTION", then no one will care what you do as long as you show up to work on time.


HOLY SHIT I'M A WIZARD.

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Well, 80%+ of you boy molesting diseased fuckstains vote loonie left anyway, so I have zero incentive to help you out. You're no different than the antifa or the BLM niggers or any other leftist tribe arming yourselves. You haven't seen the light on the 2nd Amendment. You just want anybody who objects to you dead, after which you will cheerfully vote to grind the evil things up for scrap.

So. A few years ago I'd have cheerfully lent you a hand. Now my attitude is eat shit and die of that new antibiotic-resistant strain of syphilis you assholes have incubated. Pic related; it was the last fucking straw. Fuck you people, seriously.

>>33741955
Refer to every other part of the thread, retard. It's because gays will naturally want to be around other gays, and if they see a 'gay' gun club, they'll be more interested in it since they'll see it as being more amenable to them than 'regular' ones.
It's about getting more people over to the side of supporting the 2nd amendment by appealing to things that they are and things that they like. It's half the reason the Pink Pistols exists, to entice LGBT/whatever Tumblr shit you want to add on to the end of that into buying guns and protecting themselves from fag bashers and muzzies who go around shooting up clubs.

>>33741982
Fuck off, Phil. You're a traitor to /k/, and a traitor to the US. Go prance your "rights for me not for thee" shit around on /ptg/, you cuck.

Also, reminder that Phil regularly masturbates to fag and trap porn.

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>>33741197
OP, just start asking some of your gay buddies if they want to go shooting sometime. If they give you the queer sneer, explain to them that queers who are packing don't get bashed and that it's a lot of fun to shoot. Plus, it's a good way to meet people, etc.

I know a lot of gay guys and honestly, I've never heard any of them ever being victimized. Most of them didn't even get bullied in high school.

>>33741607
This

>>33741696
Pretty much. So many gays make it their entire identity. It's not that straight people really give a shit about where people stick their penises, it's just that the whole identity politics and gay identity gets old. Most of the gay dudes I know, aren't like that, but some are.

>>33741813
die in a fire, fag

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Now that the derailing is over, another issue:

What would be the best outreach for this type of group/ other gun organizations? How do you break stereotypes surrounding gun owners?

>>33741515
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XToCGELE9iY
>semi automatic assault weapons

Teach them how to self terminate, OP.

>>33742095
The only derailing is homosexuals converting society into a pleasure-based economy, where the only people that succeed are those that allow us to become more and more decadent, drowning our natural shame with pleasure.

There's a reason homosexuals are never satisfied with their lot in this world, and that is because no matter what, deep in their heart of hearts, they feel the endless shame that they try to drown with sexual stimulation. That shame is always somebody else's fault, right? If a homosexual faced their actual problems they would probably stop craving a replacement for fatherly love or male closeness they never had.

If you can't fix your problem then kill yourself, coward.

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>>33741197
fuck off faggot

go shove something up you ass

>>33742162
>'muh degeneracy'
Just because you don't say the word doesn't mean you're not using the """argument""".
Fuck off and go back to having a telephone poll lodged up your ass.

>>33742095
Just make it clear that gun owning is not a 'right' thing; Gun owners are normal people who simply see the value in self defense against those who would wish them harm, and that it's common fucking sense to own a gun, especially if you're a member of a group that finds itself as victims constantly.

>>33741955
>This shit....this kind of shit is why you faggots get treated like trash.Stop trying to start your own super secret faggot clubs, and just join a normal gun club and act normal.If you can't be a normal human for a couple hours a month, you need help.


This. Exactly. The planets bored of listening to it OP. Grow the fuck up.

Am bi and own guns.
I honestly don't know. Pretty much every queer I know is an authoritarian or some kind. The problem is that liberal idpol is so tied to their fabric as a being that criticizing any part of it means "YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY A NAZI AND YOU WANT ME DEAD!" idpol is tied to authoritarian liberalism, which ties liberal ideas to their personal identity of who they are as a person. If you tell them GMOs are not bad or that parents should be raising their own kids and not the government or how gun violence happens for reasons other than a person owning a gun then they take it as a personal attack on who they are as a person, and words perceived as unkind are interpreted as an assault similar to being stabbed in the neck, words are taken by liberals as the same as a physical attack. So you can't explain to them that some shit is wrong, because they'll scream and call the cops.
There's just so much to unfuck before we can even get to want OP wants that I don't think it's possible.

And now /ptg/'s invading the thread, so nothing of actual use would be said, because you can't have people arming the enemy.
Rights for me, not for thee! Fuck off, faggots! Muh day of the rope!

>>33741197
Go to the local bathhouse/bar/cruising spots
Start handing out gats in between getting sweet,sweet blowjobs

In all seriousness inquire among your friends about potentially interested parties, contact already existing groups over facebook and ask them how they did it, do they have a starter guide etc. find a range willing to book out blocks of facilities, place ads and fliers in bars, find instructors

[nospoilersonk]tfw you met your hunting buddy at a bathhouse[/spoiler]

>>33742226
Like buddy said earlier- be the queer you wish to see in the world.
>tfw bi, love guns, not fond of muslims, want legal weed (away from guns, obviously)

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>>33741197
I think it would be easier to work to bring back the popularity of a group rather than start a whole new one. I'd try doing that with this pink pistol group. Join it and try to work with it.

>>33741982
Kill yourself, nigger.

>>33741696
>Why the fuck do all these other faggots have to be retards?
The mentally ill are also usually mentally weak.

>>33742691
>le mental illness meme
Enjoying genitals matching your own is not a mental illness, merely a silly, unusual preference. Kind of like people who enjoy Bud Light.

>>33742014
so you learned nothing.

Good to know.

When I call you people faggots, it's not because your gay. I just want you to understand I hate you for your mind set, not your sexual preferences or what you identify as ext, I hate you because youre fuckin stubborn retarded faggots.

>>33742898
No, shoving your cock up another man's rectum and inflicting pain on him and getting his shit all over both of you so you can get your rocks off is not a 'preference.' It's a nausea inducing disease-spreading fringe sexual dysfunction. Sorry.

>>33742942
>implying that anal is painful when performed correctly
>implying people don't clean themselves or wear condoms
>implying regular sex doesn't also spread disease
Are you retarded?

>>33741197
Time for today's "leftists with guns" thread. And why not? We only had, what; half a dozen of them yesterday?

>>33742942
Why are you such a hate filled retard again?

>>33742942
Tee bee aytch, you're more abnormal than a gay.

Gays neurologically can't have a functional sexual relationship without fucking other men.

You can have a sexual relationship without whining about gays on the internet, but you do it anyway.

Get out of here you AIDS infested infiltrator.

>>33741197
Heeeey guiz! OP here! My sole existence is to suck cock and ram as many dicks up my rectum till it prolapse! And when I piss people off by being a sexual deviant, I can shoot those bigots! Because everyone knows that White cis Males are the biggest threat to the LGBT community! And not a certain religious group who makes it a POINT to KILL LGBT people. We need to help refugees! Not All Muslims!

This is why we hate you OP. Your degeneracy commands EVERY action and comprises your identity, sort of like when people have mental disorders. You, and all like you, are both physically and morally AIDS.

>>33743086
>implying all faggots are nanny-state leftards and dirty commies

>>33741197
jesus christ this is so cringe

>>33743337
>the idea of converting a traditionally leftist group from anti- to pro-2A is cringe

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>>33741982
You do realize that actually trying to unindoctrinate and educate people works a hell of a lot better than screeching autistically because you don't like what they do with their penis, right Phil?
>shark fucker
>captcha: stop signs

>>33741269
>Good idea. I know of some trainers who are friendly and willing to teach, but how would I even convince them to do that for free?
Don't ask them to do it for free, pay them for their time but negotiate an hourly rate on the basis that a few people (basically the organisers) are going to pay for the whole group. I.e. put your money where your mouth is and maybe the instructors will come to the party. Especially if you agree that they can give a spiel about their own private lessons/regular classes as well.

You should arrange a bulk purchase/discount/referral through a gunshop for the class too.

Pink Pistols? Here's your CC of choice: >>33743527

>>33741291
>Distance the lgbt community from the left and everything pertaining to it
This is necessary because gays as a group are defined by who hates them, and that's the right-wing 'family values' types who claim to own and defined morality and label anyone different to themselves as degenerate.

The right wing pushed the gay community into the left's arms. It wasn't even a community until it had a reason to stick together which happened as soon as they started getting hate for coming out publicly. If people had of been 'meh' then gay wouldn't actually be a thing.

Some gays want 'meh' to be the default response but the political ones like that it engenders hate because it makes other gays need their advocacy which gives them purpose and influence.

Of course, non-gay left groups enjoy that a friendly group is now aligned with them and they can use that connection to push their own unrelated agendas into that group, which is why you have the gay/socialist types blurring the issues and talking about how sexuality is a capitalist system of control when economic systems and political philosophy are obviously entirely unrelated to fucking people with the same genitals.

If the libertarians alienated the right-wing moralists then gays would be much more likely to identify libertarian. As it is though, the churchies are the way to right-wing power which is why even Trump claims to be a god-fearing christian these days.

GUN DOES NOT CARE WHICH HUMAN SHOOTS IT

BULLET CARES NOT WHAT IT HITS

MORTAL WOUNDS AS CAUSED BY GUN AND BULLET ARE NOT BOTHERED WITH HUMAN SOCIAL CONSTRUCTS

>>33741291
And im sure their political leanings have nothing to do with the fact that one party wishes they didnt exist, right?

>>33741982
>the people I am politically opposed to don't want me to have guns but want to have guns
>I don't want them to have guns but I should have guns

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>>33742162

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>>33742942
So do you also think straight anal is a nausea inducing disease-spreading fringe sexual dysfunction?

>>33742942
holy crap you're ass-blasted it's hilarious. Please, continue being mad on the internet.

>>33741197
>how do I make gats appealing to LGBT
THIS is exactly the problem with LGBT. Don't make guns appealing to LGBT, make guns appealing to PEOPLE.

You fuckers defining yourself with your fucking sexuality are cancer.

I'm gay, I have 2 friends who're gay, all of us like guns, not just to shoot we're all making project gats. I'm an a mechanical engineer, one's a machinist and one's an network engineer. Yknow what none of us care about? LGBT.

Also LGBT with its identity politics is inherently lefty, and current lefty system is anti gun. You're never gonna convince LGBT to be for guns. A good person abandons identity politics and recognizes humans as individuals. Live and let live.

>>33746516
Stop blaming ebil conservatards for all the problems in your life. If you have mental health issues it's your responsibility to fix it. Nobody is stopping you.

>>33741321
>Besides, they support the very people who want to push for firearm regulations out the ass.

"socialists support the Democratic party". You're a fucking idiot m8. They hate both big parties. Neolibs and neocons have more in common than neolibs and socialists. Democrats are the ones marching in pink pussy hats, not the ones punching nazis.

>>33746616
>You're never gonna convince LGBT to be for guns.
Pink Pistols does it pretty well, imo.
Armed gays don't get bashed.

Tell them the guns are bisexual.
You will have a fuckin army of faggots

>>33746831
>They hate both parties
Lol

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-05-31/communist-party-leader-voted-for-sanders-will-back-clinton

"Darn, we were so close to getting a socialist elected president. Oh well, time to vote for the neo-liberal :^)"

And nobody's fighting any Nazis at these gay little Berkeley rallies for Milo or Ann Coulter or whoever the fuck. They're all republican civic nationalist the_donald type faggots and scrawny hippies in harry potter robes with plastic lightsabers. When they try fighting actual Nazis, this happens

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-neo-nazi-stabbed-20160626-snap-htmlstory.html

>>33741723
but gays are mostly Democrats and Democrats are anti-gunners
fuck off with your mental gymnastics

>>33746587
>So do you also think straight anal is a nausea inducing disease-spreading fringe sexual dysfunction?

Yes
Enjoy your rectal incontinence
Not what the anus is designed for
Take being a faggot else where
Talk about guns and weapons all you want.
Stop treating your pathetic fetish as a right to be a 2/7 special snowflake

>>33743053
No, he's just self-loathing because he loves traps and can't understand why boys in dresses make his peepee hard, so he takes it out on other people.

>>33741269
>but how would I even convince them to do that for free?
turn them gay and get them to do it for the cause

>>33741197
Guns have lots of appeal to lgbt people as it is. I don't think it'd hurt to have another lgbt gun group making training and information available, but I don't really think it's gonna make a lot of people change their minds. Where I live, guns are super popular. My small town of about 50,000 people manages to support four local gun shops, a pawn shop with an FFL, and there's an active gun counter at Walmart and Big 5. Communities near mine also have multiple local gun shops. Here, the people I know who fall under the lgbt label post pictures on Facebook of their new guns and go to public ranges on the regular. Some even carry. I know a lesbian from Oakland, CA though and she's a rabid gun grabber who thinks I'm a monster for having the things in my home. It has more to do with culture than anything else.

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>>33741197
The "LGBTQQIP2SAA" community tends to be left leaning, lefties tend to not like guns.

It's like asking "how do we make the advantages of abortion appeal to pubs?"

People are going to like or hate guns no matter where they put their dicks, one does not cause the other.

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>>33741197
You certainly ain't talking like no queer, anyways it seems to me that you need to make it look badass empowering shit like them chicks in ghostbusters then you'll get retard queers into shooting and talking about how badass and empowering they are, and soon enough they'll be sucking their friends into it.

>>33741197
you don't because the firearms community is full of individualistic autists where the lgbt community is full of followers that don't dare speak out against their own because muh pronouns

op, if you're interested in guns don't feel like you need to surround yourself with other queers just to be comfortable, most gun owners are pretty open so long as you don't stick it in their face and the ones that aren't tend to be /pol/ocks or fudds

tl;Dr you don't need to bring your hugbox with you to get into shooting, just buy a gun and shoot it

>>33742898
I'd be perfectly willing to consider bud light a mental illness

>>33748260
this

I wonder if you pricks willingly ignore the science that gayness starts at or before birth, what objective scientific facts you ignore pertaining to firearms. Is there the /k/ version of broscience/fuddlore?

t. straight scientist

>>33748294
Like any online community, /k/ is susceptible to myths and misconceptions. We have arguments over pistol calibers and whether or not a 120+ year old revolver design is stronger just because the manufacturer uses forgings and a more modern design uses castings.

I'm pretty sure the whole "muh degenerates" thing has more to do with the influx of mouthbreathers from /pol/ thanks to 4chan being associated with the "alt right" edgelords in the last election though, since most of the political discussion here before that was more libertarian "gay married trannies defending pot farms from federal agents with machineguns" kind of stuff.

>>33748352
This. Pretty much half of the 'muh degeneracy' is from the /pol/ flood in '16, stilting the demographics of the board to a political memefest instead of 'Shall Not Be Infringed'.

I wish /pol/ would go back to where they came from, and I really wish they'd take Phil with them.

>>33741197

why not look at pinkpistols.org

>>33748361
or /brg/

have homos stop being feminine fagbois and appreciate testosterone.

>>33748372
I take it you've never heard of bears.

>>33741673
You know that the provo's were the more conservative IRA, which then even split into a more liberal and one conservative group?

>>33748370
Kek

>>33748357
This. /pol/fugees need to go and stay gone. Used to be anyone who talked about morals or politics got "SHALL"d back to whatever shithole they came from.

Except Phil. Unfortunately he has always been a part of this board. A shitty, irritating, commiefornian pain in the ass part of the board. If /pol/ took him with them when they go, that'd be great.

Is that really wise with your suicide rates?

>>33748465
Not OP, but they actually keep me from an heroing.

>>33741197
>>how can we make gun ownership appealing to lgbt folks?
Show them videos of the Islamic State throwing gays off roofs and ask your fellow gay acquaintances: is this the future you want for yourself?

>>33748387
>You know that the provo's were the more conservative IRA, which then even split into a more liberal and one conservative group?


I know their history well 'a 32 country SOCIALIST republic'

They hooked up with every Marxist terror group on the face of the planet at the time and their frantic backpeddling does not change history. The INLA and OIRA were worse but the PIRA and Shinner were reds in the 80s right down to blathering about capitalist imperialism and da workers.

>>33748530
The continuous push to make extreme sports more edgy has to stop. Base jumping without a parachute is just more irresponsible attention seeking.

>>33748546
Who cares? They've got some gnarly music.

>>33747002
if we make democrats more pro gun then we don't have to worry about them wanting to ban them as much.

>>33741982
who has the trap cap?

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>>33742095
might want to get a couple of friends who want to do it and then go to the next womans march or whatever, and try to show your fellow faggots logic. you wont be able to get everyone by far, but showing a few people the right way is all you need, godspeed gaynon

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am a feminine gayboi, am hoping to become a gun owner someday

eventually us gaybois just have to rally and prove that not all of us are left-leaning anti-fun fags

>>33741197

>gays against guns

but armed gays dont get bashed

>>33741197
What's the point of creating a new group when the Pink Pistols is already struggling to grow? Makes more sense to open a local chapter of Pink Pistols

>>33749889
Just buy a gun. Do you seriously not have <$300 for a PA-63, CZ-83, CZ-52, or P64? Hell, there's PA-63's out there for less than a Hi-point. Mine was $125.

>>33750231
It's not a money issue.
I live in California and I was deemed unsafe to own a gun for 5 years. I'm planning on moving out to Utah.

>>33746516

>

The majority of those on the right don't hate gays, in fact we don't even think about you guys or give half a shit what you're doing. We just hate leftists and those who align with them. Hell, you could be truely neutral and we would be leagues friendlier than we are now.

>>33750247
Ah. Brain problems, or people problems?

>>33746382

Slow your roll there bud, That may have been the case years ago but the majority of the right doesn't care anymore and are actually quite supportive of it within reason.

See >>33750256

>>33750281
Issues with myself. Long story short one day I did something stupid and ended up at the ER and then a psychiatric ward for a week.

[spoiler]I wanted to buy a WASR for my first rifle.[/spoiler]

>>33750256
>>33750288

Ultimately, those who align with the right nowadays just want to be left the hell alone. We don't want exorbitant amounts of money to be extorted from us at gunpoint for shit we don't agree with. We want to be able to say whatever the hell is on our mind and not face legal action because "hate speech". We want to run our businesses and make a profit without getting buttfucked by jealous and greedy people too lazy to make their own money. And lastly, we want our fun boomsticks without getting steamrolled by alphabet soup agencies or harassment from legislature passed by people who can't mind their own damn business.

>>33743321
hi phil

buy a projector it'll make it easier

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>>33750069
There is a local chapter, but the problem is is that most members interact online in forums or on the main website. Face to face meeting only occur in larger cities, I believe.

Although I could just join the online group and make in-person meetings a thing.

>>33746616
we gotta use the identity politics against em. only way they'll join

>>33750298
Well I hope you're going better now. Also, you can do better than a WASR For the money.

>>33741515

>be gay in cheesy franchise night club in ultra-hip orlando
>Frustrated gay arab submits to allah because his religionnsays he is bad
>will prove his dedication to allah by reducing gay population by about 50
>friends get smeared all over the dance floor
>4 hours of terror and "allah ackbar"
>better make a video attacking republicans
>cast it with gross fatties and effeminate gays that most people would want to bully

>>33750356
That's probably the best idea, otherwise you're not drawing from the largest talent pool possible.

>>33742014
Jesus Christ, you did not read a single thing that anon wrote.

>protecting themselves from fag bashers and muzzies who go around shooting up clubs

if they really want the help maybe they should seek it in the form it comes and not ask for special treatment.

It's not our job to educate you on how to get leftards armed up.

>>33741247
Why don't you do your family a favor and kill your self.

>>33741197
what is that pic name?

>>33741321
Being hypocritical is not ironic

>tfw trans and politically fascist
/k/ how do I stop being an abomination

>>33751288
Gonna explain a little further?

>>33748294
>Implying
Faggotry is a mix of nature and nurture, however any research into it is now considered not pc and is stigmatized so we'll never know.

>>33751318
What do I need to explain?

>>33748352
>>33748357
>>33748419
>muh /pol/ boogeyman
Newfags who think that the 'influx' of /pol/ is new should lurkmoar.

/k/ has always been /pol/ with less conviction. Don't wanna kill all niggers, just hope they chimp out so we can shoot them.

>>33751288
Don't.

U b u bby.

<3

>>33741197
I wouldn't trust that type of group with guns. They might kill themselves, because they are mentally unstable.

>>33741197
The best advice I can give you is that the more people use guns, the more they like them. There are very, very few anti-gunners who are actually familiar with guns, and I've seen many people change their minds about them when they go shooting a few times. Use whatever excuse/pretext you can to actually put a gun in their hands, and your chances will improve.

Also, push the idea of self-protection, particularly against rape. Tell them the whole, "The system/establishment/whatever doesn't really care to protect you or properly prosecute the rapist, so you have to do it yourself with a firearm" argument.

So:
>Offer to take them shooting, to learn to protect themselves for rapists/hate crime/RWDS
>Try to get them to go more than once and not hate it, wait for signs that they look forward to it
>The day they choose to purchase firearms for their own protection is the day you've won...

>>33751288
You did get the perfect dubs for that statement. Didn't you post in a thread a while back asking for advice dealing with the clerk at the gun store, then start a shitstorm when people noticed your copy of "Mein Kampf" in a picture?

What did one fag say to the other fag at the bar?

>may I push in your stool?

>>33751443
No. I'm a fascist, not a Nazi. Hitler ruined muh Roman/Spanish ideology

>>33751364
Newfags who think /k/ has always been /pol/ lite are the ones who should lurk moar, or just get back to their containment board.

>>33751476
So you follow a political ideology that literally has a giant faggot as its symbol?

>>33751639
Mussolini is really cute okay

>>33751611
Kys newfag

>>33751647
Mussolini is a fat piece of shit and the only way he should be remembered is as he was hanging from the rafters.

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>>33751647
I was talking about the literal bundle of sticks that's fascisms symbol, but I fail to see how Mussolini or Franco are anywhere near the cutest nationalistic dicators.

>>33751674
What did Mussolini do to make you so angry. Are you Sicilian or something.

>>33751664
You first faggot

>>33751682
Nah, I don't really care, just wanted to bully you over your poor choice of husbando.

>>33747002
Go fuck yourself.

>>33751288
Stop being trans and all of a sudden you're mainstream.

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>>33751680
Franco maybe not but Mussolini is pure.

>>33751691
You know you're just lying to yourself.

>>33751712
>Fascism
>Mainstream
I don't think any "neo-fascist" could even explain the basics of corporatism or state-capitalism.

>>33751647
Your failure to get that joke is the saddest thing I have read all day.

Honestly, it makes me wonder how exactly you define "fascist".

>>33751816
Not understanding jokes is quite clearly part of fascist doctrine. But in all seriousness, Italy under the NFP is what I define fascism as, though my specific ideas on it vary a bit I suppose.

>>33751288
kill your self.

>>33748641
>make Democrats more pro gun
Make the right more pro gay.

>pro tip: neither of these things will happen

>>33743697
"hey guys ignore the rates of pedophilia and drug use amongst this group they will totally help our cause! Everyone is going to be pro gun when they see that our flaming homo mascot was kid diddling" t. fag sympathizer

>>33751726
I dunno what you could find cute about a "state capitalist" who ran his country into the ground and got it occupied by Germans and then the British, Americans, and French.

>>33752007
Germany dragged Italy in to the war faaaar before they were ready. I think Italy's estimates for when they'd be ready was like, 1943 or something like that.

This thread kinda makes me wonder if I couldn't do some good putting up posters or something at my campus. I always see a bunch of lefty political advocation stuff, so they could hardly begrudge me putting up pro-2A stuff, right?

>>33752020
There you go blaming Germany like Italy had no agency.

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>>33742942
>>33747416

>>33751932
Is there a political equivalent to the concept of a secondary fan?

>>33752146
libertarian

>>33742095
The Hi Power is the sexiest part of that pic

>>33746543
Yes. If you want your enemies to be as well armed as you, you are an idiot.

>>33741197
>How could I start a Pink Pistols-esqe group or lgbt gun group
Why don't you just decide to be normal and straight, then you could join a real gun club instead of a sissy faggot play date between old queers looking to fuck young homos

next time just lie and say you're a log cabin republican jesus harold christ

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I think the problem inherent in just condemning LGBT people as a loss instead of trying to co-opt them to our viewpoints is that their side -will- win in the end. The media is on their side, the educational system is on their side, popular culture is on their side. It's setting gun rights up for a smug, self-assured loss. Whereas, were one to make guns popular on the left again, at least the increasing frequency with which their tickets win elections in populous, important areas might be less harmful to gun rights.

To throw one's hands up and just say, "Queers are irretrievably lost to the enemy; don't even bother" ignores the changing demography of not only increasing numbers of queer individuals, but of individuals who look to said individuals as not only needing protection, but being possessed of viewpoints which demand a closer listening due to their protected and threatened status.

Getting LGBT to shoot and endorse shooting isn't just about the votes THEY hold, it's also about the votes of the people who will drop everything to do anything a gay person says because the alternative of being angrily labeled homophobic by an offended gay person is unimaginable to them.

>>33741197
OP, my apologies for the rest of the assholes in this thread. You might like dick in the ass but they're bigger faggots than you are.

Gun owners as a whole--excepting a few religious fudds and basement dwelling stormfags--want nothing more than for more people to own and shoot guns. That creates more pro-gun voters, so of course it's in our best interests. The majority of us are very supportive of movements like that, because they tend to change the minds of gun grabbers in the best way possible.

I wish you the best of luck. I suggest really, really pushing the protection argument against rapists and hate criminals and such. Be open about the fact that you CC--when you think they're ready to hear it--and bring it up in conversations about the scarey rapists and discrimination out there. Don't be annoying about it, though. When people bring up gun control, take the moral high ground. Be the calm, reasonable, rational one, and make your points calmly and well as they get angrier and angrier. That always helps. Above all, don't be pushy.

To the other fags in this thread, I was about to post a rant but >>33752704 phrased it better than I did. You have to pick your battles. If you try to push a uniformly conservative platform everywhere, you're doomed to irrelevance because that's not where society's going. What's more important to you, muh adam and eve traditional relationship values or your second amendment rights? America's becoming pro-LGBT whether you like it or not, so you might as well get all the allies you can in the more important fight for your gun rights.

I don't care if they're the worst kind of pansexual, tranny, whiny, Marxist, attention-demanding, perpetually stoned Sanders voter, if someone is willing to join our side in the fight for gun rights and you turn them away because of their other issues, you're just as bad for our cause as Hillary fucking Clinton.

>>33752975
I for one would willingly give up all my guns to legalize lynching communists. I'm not guns isn't at the top of everyone's political idea.

>>33753014
I worded that horribly. I meant "I'm not sure guns are at the top of everyone's political priorities"

>>33753014
>>33753020
I think you're in the minority here.

I'm the opposite of you. I'd willingly accept Sanders style socialism or whatever for the repeal of the NFA and all the import bans. I'd sell my soul for legal full retard and SVT-40s and I'm not ashamed to admit it either.

I'm not saying everyone else is like that, but I think gun law IS at the top of the priorities of most people here. And even if you won't take communists, what's the harm in people porking dudes and wearing drag and calling themselves weird pronouns and what not, if they're helping us get our rights back?

>>33753112
Hey, don't get me wrong, I'm a massive flaming trans fag myself. I'll just never compromise with a communist.

>>33753202
Oh, I didn't realize you were the OP. What I said still stands. I just want my guns and some other civil liberties, and pretty much the rest of politics can get fucked. And I think a lot of gun owners feel the same way.

>>33753286
I'm not the OP, but I get what you're saying. I'm just maybe a little too ideological for that. Not to say I wouldn't love to have some guns in my hellhole of a country...

>>33753202
Honestly, you queers and lgbt (whatever other letter of the alphabet is in there this week) from this board should start a gun club. As long as there's no dick involved with joining, I'll join it out of solidarity. You can call "Gays For Common Sense Government Control" and you can point out all the times where socialist governments have tried to exterminate, or otherwise repress, homosexuals. You can say you need guns to protect yourself from the government.

It'll make the left's SJW identity politics blow up in their face. What are they going to say? No?

Get the NFA and Hughes repealed and I will suck a dick. Not even gay, and probably a wee-bit homophobic, but I'll do it.

Damn it, we're counting on Rear Admirals, here!

>>33741247
You are the reason for gun control

>>33750988
Kek wills it.

>>33753352
I'd rather not resort to "Muh fifty million" when arguing about gun rights. I've always found it kind of a halfassed argument because I don't entirely fear a repressive government. I don't even advocate for LGBT stuff, I wouldn't be caught dead in a pride parade.

As long as I'm allowed to be me, to the extent of not affecting anyone else, I'm cool with anything. But hey, again, guns are fun, and if the social/political climate allows, I'd be super down with them being legal and easily obtainable.

>>33741447
But then the closeted faggots, trannies or crossdressers at the range will shoot us to quell their own inner battle.

>>33741569
can't tell if not old enough to post here or just a half wit

>>33751611
This. /pol/ has always been here, but it is at stupid levels recently.

>>33751664
No, You!

/k/ should either support funs for all, or for none.

>>33753404

>I've always found it kind of a halfassed argument because I don't entirely fear a repressive government.

You should. It's a lazy argument, but it's one the founders of this - the greatest of nations - was keenly aware of. There's no foreign power on Earth that can strip us of our freedoms, it's the domestic power that I fear. Guns go, then it's not long before we start busing people off to camps. It was an armed populace that rose up and threw off the shackles of tyranny. It was the ultimate check and balance. Don't forfeit it because you don't think it could happen. It's like not buying home insurance because you don't think anything can happen to you.

>>33743321
anyone have an imax screen because this projector is huge

>>33747084
>http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-neo-nazi-stabbed-20160626-snap-htmlstory.html
somebody got anal fissures at the glory hole

>>33753579
An actual coup in America would not be taken down by civilian rebels with guns. Not to make the meme argument or anything, but for a couple to successfully happen in the first place, you need the support of the military. If the military supports the ruling party, it doesn't really matter if you have guns or not. You can wage a brutal guerilla war but it's likely the new regime would quickly make any opposition out to be unpopular to the passive masses. It's a lot harder to overthrow a regime than one would think, especially as industry and military whatever advances.

But, to digress, I'm a bit authoritarian myself. I would rather a strong and secure state than a free and ineffective one. I'm not a huge fan of democracy either. But, as it stands America seems really good as of now. Too bad I'm not American.

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>>33742942

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>>33753662
>An actual coup in America would not be taken down by civilian rebels with guns

You'd be surprised, senpai.

>>33749889
as a former muween shooting instructor I will trade polishing of my pistol by feminine gaybois for world class firearms instruction.

>>33751288
Let me fuck you while wearing an SS uniform. They're not that expensive i was shopping for just this fantasy the other day.

It won't fix it but we will both have a good time.

>>33753695
See, that assumes that the coup wouldn't be popular, and would lead to a civil war. Very often coups happen in times of crisis, and very often authoritarian regimes are generally accepted, if not liked. The horrors of civil war, or the horrors of a complete economic collapse make people very welcoming to a regime that can even promise order and security, nevermind actually provide it. It's how repressive regimes get in to power all over the world. Obviously if something happened this day, it would go like pic related, but if you actually had a well organized coup that managed to get at least a good majority of the military on its side, you'd end up with something one couldn't exactly fight back against. I'm not saying that's a realistic scenario for America at this moment, but it's a realistic scenario for a generic country on the verge of collapse.

The pic you posted really does seem like the typical "It couldn't happen here" sort of thing.

>>33751285
They ain't mutually exclusive either. Sort of the reason Democratic make a great comedy.

>>33741197
How is this thread any different than:
>HAAAAAAY GUYS I'M A GIRL TEE HEE WHAT GUN SHOULD I GET (BTW, I'M A GIRL)

But with faggots instead.

Why do faggots have to bring their faggotry into everything? Why is it such a cornerstone of their identity that they can't even participate in a weapons board without special snowflake welcome carpets?

>>33746837
Pink Pistols also teaches that it's okay to shoot people who say things you disagree with even if there isn't a hint of animosity or threat of violence to it because being LGBTBBQ automagically means you're simultaneously being oppressed by literally everything else that hasn't openly aligned itself with LGBTBBQ whether or not it's actually capable of doing so, and being oppressed is enough grounds to initiate violence.

>>33748641
But if you make the Dems pro-gun they stop being Dems and start being Republicans. Since that's pretty much the only point on which they differ politically.

They now have the same stances on religion (keep that shit out of politics)

They now have the same stances on domestic policy (placate the niggers and keep people employed)

They now have the same stances on foreign policy (blow up sandniggers only when politically convenient, make sure to use the dull stick when poking Russia, placate the Jews by continuing aid to Israel)

>>33749996
Unarmed gays don't get bashed either, and haven't in 30 years.

>>33751726
>I don't think any "neo-fascist" could even explain the basics of corporatism or state-capitalism.
What has that got to do with mainstream? 99% of the fucking US couldn't explain the basics of corporatism or state-capitalism regardless of their socio-sexu-political (since those are apparently inherently combined now) stance.

Mainstream just means you're no longer a statistical outlier.

>>33753695
I'm taking this copy pasta.

>>33741197
Take all of your queer friends shooting. Every little bit counts.

>>33754287
Can you really claim to adhere to an ideology if you know nothing about it? People are dumb enough to vouch for both the confederacy and nazism, despite the two being so so so far apart.

>>33754368
You can claim anything, and be legitimately convinced you're correct even if you're able to be conclusively proven wrong.

People throughout history have been willing to kill and/or die for shit they were completely clueless about, because they believed they were correct.

>>33741197
>How could I start a Pink Pistols-esqe group or lgbt gun group?
With a lot of work and a lot of money, like any other interest group.
But the real most important thing is time. No individual actions will ever make your group or activity instantly trust-worthy.

Honestly, find a local similar group for another city, and branch off of that. That's unironically the best way -- find an established group, and extend its range.

>>33753346
fuck man how many gays trannies are there on this board?

Anyway, best of luck man. Fight the good fight in your shithole country, the liberal establishment always listens more to LGBTs. Protest about how you're a vulnerable minority afraid of hate crime and you're afraid cause you can't protect yourself

>>33754158
Eh, not quite. Still a lot of economic differences remain, mainly what to waste all the citizens' money on. Dems want to waste it on feeding the education scam and overkill welfare programs, Reps want to waste it on corporate subsidies and shit the military-industrial complex sells us that we don't actually need. And both sides get very protective of their form of money-wasting.

>>33754757
Personal pride doesn't exactly allow me to do that. I really hate using what I am as a position of power or leverage, it feels disgusting.

>>33754800
It's actually a legitimate argument, though. Rape and beatings do happen, if not as much as the liberal media will have you believe. And it really is a problem that you can't carry a weapon to protect yourself on the street. Hell, the liberals are probably even right that you're at slightly higher risk for rape and assault, so you have more reason to need a weapon. It's a valid argument to make.

And even if it's not really your reason, it applies to other people in your situation, and sets an example for them. Wouldn't you rather the other LGBTQASDFJKL;'s follow your example and argue to be allowed to protect themselves, if they're afraid of assault? It's for the greater good mane

>>33754340
Take a page from my good friend Omar.

Gtfo faggot

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>>33741197
Haven't even read the thread yet.

But I know for a fact it's going to be full of newfaggots that don't remember the days of pink pistol threads and traps with guns.

>>33741247

fuck off retard

>>33757875
Pretty much. Occasional helpful posts with the usual /ptg/ /pol/ack shit and /pol/ claiming that /k/ has always loved them and that anyone who doesn't is from Tumblr/Reddit.
The usual shit, pretty much.

>>33758512
>fuck off retard
That's gay