Sig Sauer master race thread. Glockplebs swerve.

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the master shop, well beyond most wallets here on 4chan.....they are some of the nicest handguns in the world.

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master race bump

i guess theres too many plebs here..

>>33730405
My brother got a new P226 and it's kinda a disappointment.
The trigger is nice, but not $1,100 nice.

And the gun is flippy as fuck compared to my cheaper CZs.

The bore axis meme is real.

>>33730405
Just bought a PD trade in 9mm P226 today at the gun show. My PD trade in P239 has a big brother now.

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just came back from england, saw this in the tower of london (along with some other weird shit like a p90 and a gold plated sten gun)

>>33730669
does it have the SRT trigger?

and its flippy because you have bitch hands.

>>33730673
nice!

>>33730679
why would god allow this..

>>33730669
would it make you feel better if i told you i got the gun in the OP by spending $500 and making two trades?

>>33730730
unfortunately i only spent a minute or two there because it was closing, and i never found out why a historical british museum has a stash of mexican drug cartel guns, but whatever

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still needs a SRT but its one hell of a range toy.

>>33730797
how do i get fancy red dot sight for my 226?

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>>33730405
A-am I cool?

>>33730805
i bought mine off amazon. but plenty of places sell them. then you have some one mill the slide. i used l and m precision

>>33730825
how do you like the legion?

>i wanted one just for the coin
>muh super secret club

>>33730835
whats the part called? i legit have no idea what im looking for here.

>>33730848
what 'part' are you talking about?

its a delta point pro screwed into a milled slide? get a rmr, burris, w/e and get the slide milled for that optic.

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>>33730837
Its a nice gun, I think its worth the price since its one of the nicest pistols I've shot
>pic related

>>33730848
I'm not him, but what you're looking at is literally just a red dot sight screwed directly into his slide.

>>33730871
i might buy a legion later, literally for the coin and secret club.

>>33730896
Secret club isn't that great, just legion apparel stuff

>>33730924
but how els will other people know that even my handgun is better than their handgun?

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>>33730730
>flippy because you have bitch hands.
Ummm no
Pic is a mag dump with my sp-01 at 7yds

That P226 is just a Flippy gun
Not a bad Gun though

>>33730871
What's the difference between the Legion and a standard P226?

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>>33730405
>Sig Sauer master race thread.

Sig bowing to the genius of John Browning noted.

>>33730950
is this supposed to be impressive?
just admit to him you have "bitch hands".

>>33731001
John Browning was a god. of course they made 1911's to appease him, and tactical old people.

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one day <3

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>>33730405
>Sigs only
>Glocks only
>having to choose at all

>>33730950
Pretty g...
>7yds
Anon, it's fine, you can just train more.

>>33730950
>7 yards
How are you so bad

>>33730601
How the fuck am I supposed to aim that shit with a branch and a bear head? The Fuck?

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H..hey guys can i play too..?

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>>33731169
im op, i enjoy a light ruse.

post fucking hand gats period, i just wanted to show off the one i just got today.

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>>33731202
trust in the spirit of the bear to guild your bullet

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>>33730405
SIGS are gay and I could have happily gone the rest of my life without buying one.
Unfortunately, I could not find a better pocket gun and so I bought one identical to pick related today.
It's an accurate little ducker I guess.

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>>33730405
>only one

>>33731202
theres actually a part of it that lines up, hold on ill find it.

>>33731243
Yeah, whatever little bro you can come to the party, just dont say any stupid shit im trying to score with this cheerleader

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>>33731249
>sigs are gay
>couldnt find a better gun
>so i bought a sig
lol

>>33731202
yea i guess >>33731247 is right, i have no fucking clue.

http://lastinterestingnews.blogspot.com/2014/01/sig-master-shop-sig-has-some-impressive.html

>>33731285
*Begrudgingly* bought one

>>33731249
holy shit are you fucking retarded or just a child trying to act cool?

>>33731255
fuck you got me.

>>33731243
yea i guess, just put on some new clothes so people wont recognize you.

>>33731301
"i talked a lot of shit about this company to sound cool, and now im eating the shit i spewed because they are actually good and i need one....."

die in fire.

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I just bought pic related last week for about $520 and all I've heard on /k/ since then is how terrible they are.
Is it a good pistol or did I get meme'd?

>>33730837
Same here, anon. But it's a good gun.

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Glockster here. Thinking about a p238 for pocket carry. Anyone have experience?

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>>33731023
>>33731185
>>33731196

What part of a mag dump didn't you understand?
As in I fired as fast as my heavy trigger would allow.

Just admit it, Sig's are flippy guns

>>33730966
Finish, standard x-ray night sights, grip, front slide serration, and smaller slide release and Short Reset Trigger, are they main things I can think of

>>33730730
You say that like having bitch hands doesn't just make someone better able to tell which guns have more muzzle flip or something. Having owned one sig in the past i tend to not really be the hugest fan. They tend to be heavy, mid capacity for size, larger than necessary, over priced, more muzzle flip, and moderately accurate. Overall i dont really see a reason to give them my burgerbux instead of some other company...

>>33731334
You fucked up buying the subcompact. shoulda got the compact and then bought an extra subcompact frame senpai. that being said the p320s are pretty good guns.

>>33731333
Nice get but as a company they are shit.
The legions have issues with the finish. The 238's and 938's had a plethora of problems that sig was fine selling.
They mislabeled some of their ammo and decided to sell through it anyway.
Their marketing really is gay and they're run buy the same Jew that ruined Kimber.
There just isn't any competition in the high end pocket gun field.
It's not that they're the best high end pocket gun, it's that they're the only one locally available.
It's like a $700 gun, I'll probably just trade out for something else after I sweat on it all summer. It's a SIG, who cares.

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>>33730405
The Combat TB is the sexiest handgun ever.

>>33731365
They're alright. that being said the only reason id get them over something else is because i like guns with a manual safety. If you're a glockfag id probably look for something without

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>>33731677
have you seen one in person? the frame gets pretty shiny pretty fast in the light. sweet guns tho.

>>33731677
I wish I could have found one before I got my Mk25. I love it, but I wanted one of the P226 Combat TB first, because muh two tone.

>>33731665
TL;DR, stay mad faggot.

>>33731562
its bigger than a fist at 7 yards, did you mag dump with your eyes closed?

>>33731654
so you have bitch hands and like to cry?
tl;dr

>>33731753
<3 equinox is sex

>>33731791
Had* cancer's fun like that. If you can have gun X or gun Y, and gun Y has less upwards recoil force than X you'd be stupid to pick X over Y if everything else is equivalent.

>"Buh Buh I dun have bish hands"

How retarded can you be? Oh wait, you're an exetershit koolaide drinker. You've probably only been shooting for less than 5yrs and think Sigs are cool because operators use them. Ill break this down for you then.

If you dedicate the same amount of training to a gun with less muzzle flip from the get go, then you will be able to better handle it under rapid fire than one with more muzzle flip. Same goes for if you have ham hands. It just means you'll feel the recoil even less.

Basic physics and logic, real simple stuff.

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>>33731244

>>33731864
you seriously think im going to read this shit? all your angst after i already told you TL;DR?

fuckin newfags lol you cant teach them shit i guess.

>>33731922
my fucking NIGGA <3

>>33731864
lol so much pent up ass hurt in one brain.

Therapy much?

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>>33731942

>>33731981
he even tried to play a sympathy card, like how fucking WEAK can this shit get?

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Main reason why I want a sig.

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>>33732173
only reason i want a 5906

>>33732173
>>33732281
wew getting "elder" in here with the x-files

>>33732281
touche

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>>33730405
1996 German, as cool as it is, I hate the german sights
I want to get a P229 for CC
Also a p210

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>>33730669
WRONG!

3rd year mechanical engineering student here, let me explain why you're wrong.

The bore axis meme is based on the diference of moments caused by the distance between the pivot point and barrel axis.

In fact, I did the calculation for you, assuming both guns are firing Federal Hydra-Shok 147gr. The Sig may have a higher moment, but only by 7.9%. Assuming you arent a little bitch, its nothing.

>I did neglect mass of guns, because the only part on a Sig significantly heavier than the glock, is the frame. Of which, about 40% of the mass is below the pivot point, and would almost entirely eliminate the added moment from the mass difference.

See pic related.

>>33732431
Fuck you.

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>>33732431
Saved for posterity

>>33732543
Confirmed for a crucified colon.

>>33732617
kek

>>33732431
What the fuck is a slug? Like a quantity of slugs?

>>33732431
You're not wrong but there's a lot more to it than just physics. Sure moments are a real thing and indeed measurable but that isn't the only contributing factor to things.

tl;dr perception motherfucker. Put yourself in other peoples shoes.

t. 6th year mechanical engineering dropout, git gud faggot :)

>>33730405
>full size metal frame all just for 9mm.

>gloating over poor life decisions

LMAO

>>33732815
Perception can be trained out, flunky.

>>33732815
oh god a "perception is reality" faggot.

i perceive you as someone with bitch wrists who didnt bring his man hands to the range.

>t. aviation mechanic, engineers are fucking retards.

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I like Sig Sauers and their cousins

>>33732431
shut up, nerd.

>>33732884
Not my fault I'm smarter than you. Go unload a truck or something.

>>33732858
could you at least try?

>>33732815
>>33732431
>>33731864

You all are faggots nerds.

the p226 is like the beretta.

oversized and overweight for it's caliber. Only retards and COD kiddos buy these.

>>33732910
>I'm too stupid to think for myself so I'm going to repeat youtube personalities and quote arfcon

>>33732655
Unit of mass for in imperial units. A mass that will accel at 1 ft/s^2 when a force kf 1lbf acts on it.

>>33730405
>Glockplebs swerve.

>OP is hating on Glocks!!1!!11!!!!
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>33733102

>>33730405
>this thread
damn, and I thought glock threads were bad with all the obvious noguns comments

>>33732910
as someone who actually carried the M9 as a service pistol, youre out of youre fucking mind comparing even a beat to shit 226 to a beretta.

>>33732815
>perception
Perception is simply incorect prejucides that can be removed with training. For instance, when you started school, you probably thought you were a cool person, but your peers got you thinking clearly in no time I'm sure.

>>33733245
>as someone who actually carried the M9 as a service pistol
instantly disregarded
if you carried a m9 it was a beat to shit mess

>>33732927

what are you even talking about you autistic navy seal wannabe?

It a fact that it is an oversized 9mm marketed toward COD manchildren such as yourself.

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Gangsta AF

>>33733245
see
>>33733265

you fucking gate guard.

Anyone have any leads on good lights, light/laser combos?

>>33733274
>oversized 9mm
Because its a fucking fullsize handgun you mong. It's like you think the P225, P229, P239, P938, P238, P290, and P320 dont exist. Cuck.

>>33732431
>8%
>not significant
I hope I never buy anything you work on.

>>33733350

>thinks full size means overbuilt piece of shit.

lol

>>33733416
>11lbf*ft is a massive difference

Go grab your daddy's torque wrench and give er a try, manlet.

>>33733423
>he probably perfers handguns that will melt in a toaster oven
Ayy lmao

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>>33730405
I just got this off a guy from armslist. He told me it was their exclusive rust color, I'm really liking it.

>>33733511

>he lives in a toaster oven

lmao

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Sig Sauer is just a poor copy of CZ99.

>>33733423
>overbuilt is a bad thing

>>33733890

it is if you have to lug it around everywhere, and aim it when your life depends on it.

>>33733683
>his gun will literally melt if he drumps 20 magazines in a row.

Not like you could even afford that much ammo anyways.

>>33733920
What do you have cerebral palsy? Is 1.5lb really that much weight for you?

>>33733920
Jokes on you, I carry a Sig P in 10mm with a 5in barrel every day on the ranch.

>>33733946

1.96LBS FOR A 9MM

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU.


thats like putting a mini cooper engine in a f350 truck.

its retarded like you kiddo.

>>33733988
>literally a manlet lmao
Go hit the gym buddy, assuming you can afford $30 a month.

>>33734010

LMAO
ok

have fun with your Xbox controller of a meme.

>>33733988
>I Don't Like All Metal Guns So Therefore Every Should Hate Them Too: The Post

I has p6, can join thread even if potato photo?

>>33734042
Do it man

>>33734032

The problem isn't metal guns.

the problem is that sig made an oversized gun chambered for 9mm.

Physically, there are no benefits for this unless you are using your gun as a boomerang.

>>33734063
Or unless its more controllable for you. Also, bigger is more comfortable, unless you have little girl hands.

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>>33731562
>bait from 2005

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>>33734058
Old photo of this and the HK I had.
> sold pistols due to loss of jobage.
Got a "new" one recently from a buddy.

>>33734063
>Physically, there are no benefits for this unless you are using your gun as a boomerang.
But what if I am?

Seriously, though - a heavy gun is more comfortable for me to shoot, more enjoyable to shoot, and a full size 9mm isn't a carry piece for me. Why should that cause you asspain?

>>33734091
How's the trigger?

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>>33732431
Fucking decimated all the beta males in the following list:
>>33732543
>>33732815
>>33732884
>>33732910

>>33730835
How much was the milling? The sight too for that matter? Are you a tack driver with that rig anon?

>>33734107
The DA was clocked at 6.1 lb @ 9mm, the SA was clocked at 3.2lb@ 3mm. Loved that gun.
New gun has the police trigger i'm guessing, guessing around a 15 lb trigger with some where around 10mm of travel.

>>33734124

>says the faggot using a chinese cartoons to validate his point.

You guys got anymore of that sig koo-aid?

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>>33734147
(2/??) forgot picture.

>tfw cant decide on a sig p227 or a cz 75 sp01
>range toy only
>sig is $250 more than the cz
>love the decocker but the cz feels better

>>33734151
>chinese cartoons
>on a chinese cartoon board
is this summer meme ever gonna die?

>>33734167

save yourself the trouble and
get a glock.

>>33731249

I got the nitron finish p938 in jail now. Hoping to bust it out here in the next week or so.

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SEMPAI NOTICE ME!!

>>33734167
Eaa might be an option.

>>33734124
Kek I want to make a cap but on mobile. So much butthurt

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>>33732431

>>33732815
>t. Apple users

>>33734233
You have to include the math sheet though

>>33734246
anon, im lazy and have an baby in hand, ms paint your self.

>>33734259
>on phone

>>33734233

So he just proved that the sig has higher moment by 7.9%

Soooo he factually proved himself wrong.

/k/

why are you so fucking stupid?

>>33733988

Babby arms, the post.

>>33734287
>he thinks a difference of 11ftlb is noticable
Confirmed manlet

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>>33734265

>>33734287
American educated everyone

>>33734298

>confirmed he just proved himself. wrong.

and yes 11ft lbs should be noticeable to someone who is carefully accurate when shooting.

my man, just stop while you don't look like a complete drop out.

>>33734287
Engineering student back again, I said that while it is technically higher, its such a small difference. I realize you see 7,9% and think "damn its almost 10 percent off!!!" But the numbers themself arent high anyways. Imagine you are at dinner, and you are served one single bean, while your buddy gets two. Technically he got twice as much as you, but its still not much food.

Tldr, go hit the gym, pussy.

>>33734181
KABOOM!

>>33734287

If a 7.9% difference is that big a deal to you, then it is a reflection of your physical weakness. Why does the world have to revolve around your lack of fitness? Or maybe it's just because you're a poor who has to skip meals to buy ammo? That's your problem homeslice, you're malnourished. Next time, skip that extra box of TulAmmo and buy yourself some Wheaties.

>>33734347
Lmao, just stop. It's been two hours of your bullshit.

>>33734351

Muzzle flip is the angular (rotational) momentum of the pistol caused by the axis of the bore sitting higher than the center of the grip. The higher the bore, the worse the muzzle flip, and the longer it takes you to bring the gun back on target after each shot.

tldr; you paid $900+ for an engineering flaw.
kek

>>33734128
go on L and M precision and spec out what ever you want. the front was more ( and can get more expensive if you want night sights), the rear sight is an add on to the DP pro (where as with a RMR or other the rear sight will be dawson or custom) and you dont need back ups if you dont want. so your cost will vary but...total cost for this build was

>p227
500 (yup scored a deal)
>dp pro
380
>dp pro back up iron
80
>milling + front sight
250
>g2 grips
125
>barrel
borrowed from my p220
>can (if you count it)
790 + 200

so 1360 or 2350 with the can

>>33734347
Also the engr that posted that pic earlier. If 11ftlb is that much to you, get the Federal Expanding FMJ 105gr. It generates a lower moment than the glock with the hydra-shok. Still, hit the gym manlet

>>33734399
sorry,

1335 or 2325

>>33734392
And that muzzle flip is caused by the moment, which is only marginally higher. Git gud pussy. Do you seriously need me to calcuate the angular displacement to show you how big of a bitch you are?

Most semi-autos have lower bore heights than revolvers; just how low depends on the cleverness of the engineering.

Single-action semi-autos like the 1911 and Hi-Power kept their bores fairly low, but the complex lockwork of some older DA semi-auto patterns (SIG, S&W, Beretta) placed their barrels ridiculously high over the grips and cursed them with much more recoil than their modestly-powered cartridges could justify.

Modern striker-fired designs can put the bore just above the web of your thumb, and the Steyr and the M&P have just about the lowest bore axes on the market.

It's just SIMPLE physics. You will need more time and energy to readjust your follow up shot.

why do you spergs try to validate your sig circle jerk so much?

oh i see, its

>MUH GERMAN ENGINEERING IT MUST BE PERFECT

lmao

>>33734442

You are trying so hard to prove yourself wrong again.

LOL

just face it you bought a XBOX BIG 9mm.

>>33734445
No you dont, the difference is a miniscule 11 ftlb. Assuming you arent a total pus, you wont even feel a difference. The germans designed their gun for soldiers, while the glock is designed for effeminate women cops who only ever touch their gun when doing their annual qualification.

>>33734445

I can put two rounds into your head at 10 yards within 1.1 seconds. Do you think the brains oozing out of your now doubly perforated skull would be calculating how much my SIGs muzzle flipped?

>>33734478

>no you don't, the laws of conservation of energy doesn't apply to sigs

just stop.

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>>33734445
So what pistols are you unable to afford but desperately want to validate your "bore axis" theory, tough guy?

>>33732431
>glockfags eternally btfo

>>33734489
>I can put two rounds into your head at 10 yards within 1.1 seconds.


not an argument and cry harder bitch nigger lmao

>>33734489
>nothing personnel, kid, the post

>>33734495
>bringing up conservation of energy when we are talking about the recoil being absorbed by through your entire arm instead of just your wrist
Heh the manlets will never learn.

>>33734514

I just shot you twice, and you are dead. Did the gun do what it was supposed to, yes or no?

>>33734515

>Buttblasted, the post

>>33730730
>Short Reset Trigger trigger

>>33734541

You just proved that sig owners are COD trash.

good job.

>>33734524

Unfortunately, larping doesn't make your gun good.

$1200 says glockfags would own sigs if they werent so poor

>>33734521

that is why the sig p226 is oversized and heavier for a 9mm, so it can compensate its higher torque from it's high bore axis.

..nothing personal kid.

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>>33734603
>>33734622
dats purddy

>>33734621
Roght it couldnt possibly because Sig has been using alloy frames since where was a w. Before the word germany.

>>33731562
They're not flippy if your hands aren't bitchy

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>>33734626
Thx m80.

>muh german engineering

>>33734652
see
>>33734445

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>>33731562

>>33732431
This was interesting

Thanks for effort

Daily reminder that Glock frames are made with the same machine as modern production barbie dolls, the Van Dorn 85 ton

>glocks are literally toys

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>>33734685
Whoops, wrong pic.

>>33734663
is that p6 hammer original? i cant tell if i love it or hate it. on one hand spur hammers are far sexier, on the other a loop with a cut really works with that gun.

>>33732879
>p210
hummuna hummuna hummuna

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>>33734701
It's totally the right pic, though.
In a thread of fanboys bitching at each other about who's the plebbiest of them all, it's important to keep things in perspective: automatics in general are pleb as fuck.

>>33731196

post your targ-- oh wait, you're a 400 lb hacker that plays videogames and thinks he's Tier 1... got it.

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This triggers sig owners.

>>33734816
Not really. I like hammers, I like steel construction, and I like decockers and DA/SA.

But enjoy your Steyr - I hear they're fun to shoot... should try and get some trigger time on one some day, perhaps I'll buy one.

>>33734714
It surely is my mang. Its a deformation spur so that if it gets dropped it can be quick checked by an armorer for replacement. If the spur bends enough to touch the hammer body, something is going to be fucky and need work. Pretty neato.

>>33734816
Not really. That was designed by a former Glock engineer, it triggers Glock owners if it triggers anyone. If I found one at a good price I'd pick it up just for those weird triangle sights alone.

>>33734781
Thanks my dude. I just bought a 686 SSR Pro Series today, I'll have to snag some pictures of it on the pool table tomorrow.

Funny thing is I have Glocks, Sigs, wheely guns, Steyr's, CZ's, etc. etc. and don't have any real preferences haha.

>>33730405

Admitting that the bore axis design influences how you shoot the gun, and just saying "bulk up pussy" just verifies that gun is indeed flawed in that respect.

Excuses like "manlet" only show you are willfully ignoring the fact.

And thats called delusion.

>>33734920
Once again, wrong. Something is inherently wrong with you, if you need to bulk up. Foe the average person its fine. Its not our faults you are a shut in computer nerd whose hardest workout of the day is lifting a fork to your mouth.

>>33734947

Did you really answer the question anon?

"Bulking up" is a non sequitur. You can't keep running from the facts. It's just sad at this point.

>>33734878
well i like it. but come on, that gun has never been holstered, let alone dropped :)

>>33734970
ITs not our fault, or sigs fault that you are a defective human. You can blame yourself, and your dad for not beating the bitch out of you.

>>33734991
Fun fact, this gun was my very first concealed carry years ago. I bought it surplus, with near zero finish, and eventually decided to try my hand at Cerakoting it.

This was back when there were numerous sources for P6's, and spare parts. Surplus has since dried up, so I don't carry it any longer, but its still my favorite gun.

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>>33735025
well shit, just learned something about p6 hammers and finishes. sexy gun anon

>>33735083
No problemo friendo! :)

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>>33734894
>686 SSR Pro Series
Noice. I'm planning on picking up a 986 Pro Series later this year, myself.

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>>33734992

ok.

>>33735109
I actually looked at a 986 today. I almost bought it over the SSR, but I wanted another swagnum in the safe.

>>33735127
that pic

L
O
L

>hah hah, only 11ftlbs difference, if you can feel that ur manlet

It's like you cant even into biomechanics. the reason it feels different isn't because it has slightly more torque due to the relative angle the recoil energy is moving along. it's because the entirety of the energy from the recoil is happening at a different angle to the wrist/forearm bones than the entirety of the recoil would be at a lower relative angle. simple calculation of the relative energy turned into torque completely misses the point.

>>33735308
If you apply a force directly into the palm of someones outstretched hands, you will have a completely different effect on that person than you would directing that same energy into torquing their wrists. the farther you move off being in line with the forearm bones, the more of an advantage it will have.

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>>33735308
the recoil impulse doesn't feel remarkably different to handguns with a lower bore axis. there's not enough energy here to where a 1' bore axis would be a problem.

if you can't handle a Sig Sauer, you will most likely have trouble with any other handgun

i'm 6' 130lbs, mega skeleton extreme and yet i have no issues whatsoever

now stop wasting your time on baseless conjecture and go to the range and practice

>>33735368
>implying feeling moderately or slightly different isn't enough reason to go with a different brand when they do almost everything else better too

>people who don't like any ergonomic feature of the highly personalized weapon that is a sidearm just need to train more

Wew lad

>>33730405
i love SIG AND Glock

p228 and g19 are my favorite pistols

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>>33735409
most handguns are similar, and as for the rest I believe it's great to be able to adapt. squeeze the trigger, press the mag release, rack the slide. that's all you need to do. as a southpaw, half of the controls are practically useless to me so i only train with these basics and it translates well between designs.

handguns as sidearms suck. they're not valid substitutes for a rifle, they have very limited application. pick one you like, whatever the reason, but it doesn't matter that much since you should not experience a failure of your primary weapon.

handguns as a primary weapon are very different. they have to be something you are comfortable with and can perform consistently with at range or generally in your intended application

whatever the case, you should never set yourself up for a situation where you need to use a weapon and cannot adapt. for this reason I don't recommend the "personalization" mindset for defense

>>33731023
This.
>>33730950
>uuuhhmm. Hell to the no!
Bitch boy

>>33733988
Sig's aren't even the heaviest 9mm metal framed Service pistols

Hard to believe a few years ago Sigs QC was nearly as bad as Kimber. I would have never thought they would turn around.

>>33735602
But SIG has models you can't easily kill if you cheap out (see Zastava and other SIG clones).
Cheaping out on a tight tolerance 1911 is a recipe for disaster - meanwhile Rock Island chugged along, selling cheap loose tolerance 1911's by the bucket load

>>33734287
t. Reddit

>>33735627
I have heard Rock Islands are good guns.

>>33734434
Idk much about cans (Caaaalifornia)
But the rest of it looks pretty dang sweet man. Barely more than peoples' mk25s too (they're like 1100-1200 right?)

>>33733301
Gate guard? Lmfao OK kiddo.

>>33733561
<3

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>>33731864

>>33734781
What it like being a dying breed? To know that in the next 50 years people will only think of revolvers are historical guns. Lmfao just die already you relic.

>>33734816
Neat a spacegun!

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>>33734920
Lmfao so just because YOU are a pussy, means the rest of us must admit out tool is bad?
Smoke less Crack batch tits.


>>33735308
TL;DR
You nerds keep crying I keep laughing. NEEEEXT?

>>33735749
Fuck you auto correct. I'm toondrunk to deal with your shirt

>>33735764
>the "too drunk" card
A real man would be manly enough to hold his liquor

>>33735794
Lmfao here's your (you).

High bore axis is unaesthetic and just a bad design.

>>33736199
>bad design
only bad for manlets who shouldnt be allowed to own guns anyways...

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>>33736217

>bore axis placement = personal height

u wot nigger?

>>33736217

Also lets just admit, that the gun looks disgusting.

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>>33730405
>>33730601
>>33730609
>>33730679
>>33730797
>>33730825
>>33730871
>>33731001
>>33731115
>>33731169
>>33731255

Sig owners BTFO until the end of time

https://youtu.be/LuPOqDlaX6U

Legion owners. Turn it inwards and kill yourself.

>Hopefully it won't jam

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>>33736899

Been thinking about buying one for a long while now. They look better than Sigs, perform better, are cheaper, and the controls give you more features and options.

Only con is there's really no aftermarket for them yet.

>>33737105
>buying slav shit
>over western european
Its almost like you want sambo to rape your girlfriend.

>>33737136

Your German shit is overpriced hard because "muh engineering".

Meanwhile, that slavshit blows it out of the water in every single way, despite being around $200 - $400 cheaper.

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>>33737136
Slavic guns are superior to low tier nigger guns like Austrian or Swiss.

>>33737156
Sigfags are in denial. I can't believe that Legion shit is actually working on those drones.

whats up /k/ newfag here. I'm on hardmode (california) trying to buy my first pistol what should I get? Looking at beretta 92s and glock 17s cause they're in my price range (<$1000) but I see people shitting on them all the time. Are berettas meme tier? Whats wrong with them?

>>33737206

You lost?

>>33737234
show me the way

>>33737206
Berettas are great; people just have a bad impression of them because of horror stories about military M9s that are old and busted from decades of abuse.
They're also a bit heavy.

>>33737246
thanks. beretta vs glock 17 gen 3/gen 4? from what I've seen the gen 3s are cheapest around here

>>33731202
>he needs his sights in order to hit shit accurately
lmao

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>>33737206
Get a S&W 686P.
You can practice with .38 Spl essentially recoil-free, and you're only losing 3 shots vice an automatic.

>>33737256
The Beretta will be more pleasant to shoot because it's heavier and has a better trigger.
Gen4 guns aren't on the roster, so it's not like you have any choice in the matter.
If you live in a part of CA where CCW is a possibility, you may want to consider a 19 instead of a 17.

>>33737275

>only losing 3 shots

Compared to what? Neither of the pistols he's looking at have 10 round mags. Hell, I have a CZ SP-01 that carries 18+1. Don't get me wrong, I love revolvers, but you can't say the capacity is only 3 less than an auto and be objectively correct.

>>33737296
He's in California; everything has 10 round mags unless he pays out the ass for prebans or flaunts the law by buying normal ones out of state.

>>33737275
>>33737288
thanks for the advice

>>33737301

I stand corrected, then. Yeah, 686p is a good choice in that light. I'd probably get a Dan Wesson Valor in 10mm if I was forced to carry a max of 10 shots.

>>33737301
there's no such thing as preban mags in california now
they retroactively made them illegal unless you are a cop or retired cop
SB 1446 (Hancock)
Those who own magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds , even if they are “pre-ban” magazines or grandfathered in under past bans; they will all be illegal after July 1st, 2017. The State requires Citizens to remove the magazine from the State, sell it to a licensed firearms dealer, or turn it over to the Police. 1st offense will result in a $100 fine, 2nd offense $250 fine and 3rd offense $500 fine.

>>33737347
Does it say "Citizens" in the actual law?
Why does California want illegal aliens to have high capacity Loughner-style assault clips?

Just picked up a 229 legion a few days ago, gonna shoot it today. I watched that video and it was a bit depressing but who knows, maybe that one was a lemon.

>>33737105
If only they had a poly striker gun.

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Can HK owners join in on laughing at glock owners?

>>33736899
lmfao so a KNOWN shill posts a "mud test" of a clone vs a sig, and im supposed to believe any of this is important because?

>>33737584
sure, help us kick out these slavaboo faggots trying to shit up the thread.

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disgusting peasants talking shit about German engineering should KYS

>>33731365
I've carried both a 238 and 938. In terms of carry you won't really notice a difference. If you're experienced with pistols, go with the ,938. If you are not or just want something with basically no felt recoil, go 238. Imo best carry pistol currently on the market

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recently acquired a sig p320 compact, and i want a better holster. I saw the one picture does anyone have some other options? with this one the compact will have about half inch of empty space is that bad?

>>33739517
Won't be a problem. It locks onto the trigger guard.

>>33738323

Walther PPQ

German engineering is shit bruh

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>>33739517
Serpa holsters are trash.
They're extremely vulnerable to dirt and debris jamming the mechanism, and even when they work, you unlock it by pressing the button with your trigger finger, so your trigger finger is curling toward the trigger as you draw, which has a high risk of causing an ND.
Get a Safariland ALS holster instead.
With the ALS, you unlock it by pressing a button with your thumb as you draw, which is dramatically safer than the Serpa's system, and I've never heard anyone report that their ALS holster has locked up like Serpas so often do.
>inb4 a bunch of BLACKHAWK! fanboys come in and blather about how they haven't shot themselves in the leg yet

>>33740913
spending over $100 on a holster seems a tad much for a $500 pistol.

>>33731654
>>33731334
You guys do realize you can just swap the receiver into any P320 grip module right?

>>33741028
Not if you carry it everyday. Don't get me wrong - Alien Gear makes a good holster for $40-50 but sometimes you just need a Stealth Gear -- especially if you sweat a lot and carry concealed every single day.

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P226 Combat checking in to battle the glock fan boys

>>33741028
remember, if you are getting this for a carry weapon, is it really worth it that you could potentially ND or die because your holster was trash and made you fumble.

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Does anyone know where I can get wood sig Sauer grips that have the same stippling as >>33741390

I've seen them before, they had the sig logo on them, but now I can't find them for sale.

>>33731753
Now that's a qt.

I know which ones your talking about but the texture isn't as aggressive as the E2 grips

>>33741484
Above comment

>>33741484
might check nill. they make fancy pants wood sig grips.

Hey m8's, I got a 229 legion a couple days ago and went to shoot it today. I tried to shoot and nothing happened so I took it over to the gunsmith who said my firing pin was stuck. He said my best option was to send it back to Sig since I couldn't afford to get it fixed, is there a way for me to fix it myself so I don't have to lose my gun for a month?

>>33741656
Ya, take it apart and see whats going on. Might just be something stuck or missing a firing pin/lock spring.

>>33741689
Well he said the pin wouldn't budge at all and that he'd have to strip it down. I don't know if I have the tools to strip it down far enough

>>33741735
See that pin on the slide above the decocker? Drive that out and the rest you should be able to do with your fingers. I know you have a hammer and if you dont have a set of punches you should pick some up because you will use them again.

Plenty of videos out there showing how to completely take apart these guns.

>>33741735
Also if you dont have punches please dont improvise, it can go really really bad. Just spend the 15 bucks

https://www.amazon.com/SE-ST1032B-8-Piece-Brass-Drive/dp/B002Q86RLK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492991100&sr=8-1&keywords=brass+punches

>>33734586
I think real sigs are attractive and desirable and will be adding a p210 to my collection after I finish my ar. Exetershit is just plain ugly and has no prestige.

>>33734700
>Sigfags are this butthurt that Socom dropped them for glocks

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>>33735368
>6'1"
>130 pounds

Siglets, when will they learn?

Sig p226 >(<-×10) glock 19.

>>33742338
i own both soooo......

>>33735368
>6'1"
>130lbs
holy fuck nigga eat food

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I've decided to change up my carry gun a Glock27 that I've carried for over 4 years. I want stryker fire, no grip safety , no crossbolt safety. Im willing to go slightly larger than the g27 and am considering 9mm as the new caliber. As such the Sig 320 is at the top of my list in either compact or sub compact. Thoughts, suggestions warning and info would be appreciated. Kek Reeeeee

>>33731562
>What part of a mag dump didn't you understand?
>As in I fired as fast as my heavy trigger would allow.
You suck at mag dumping almost as much as posting on a Swiss muzzle threading forum. You're terrible. Seriously.

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>>33732431
>calculating with imperial units

>>33747280
>eurocuck detected
Does it make you asspained to know American engineers are comfortable working in both imperial and metric units? Sucks to suck, cuck. Go stick all 2.54 cm of your dick in a wall outlet.

>>33746961

I still carry my glock 26 over my p320 subcompact because it is slightly slimmer and shorter making it more comfortable and easier to conceal. I keep the p320sc as a potential back up but also bought a compact grip module and just dremeled the nose to be in line with the subcompact slide. I now have a backup home defense gun that holds 15 rounds but can switch to the subcompact grip for concealment.

Be warned that the subcompact p320 is more top heavy than the compact version and will take some time for you to get used to it. Try the medium subcompact grip for better grip.

>>33731864
This is objectively, logically, correct

>>33742410
You look like you have herpes

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Obligatory

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>>33734663
>>33735025
I hardly ever see anyone with the revised P225[-A1], are they over priced or something?
Makes me wonder if I should've went with more capacity, pic related is my first conceal carry.

>>33749051
too heavy for carry when there are so many other option out there. kinda expensive too.

classy though.

>>33734181
Kill yourself