Japanese firearms thread anyone?

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My howa

I just want a type 64

Is that so hard?

>>33727715
How are those I've accuracy wise? I've seen guys get sub moa groups but what about you?

Why do they bother making firearms when their people can't even own any?

>>33727715
Do you use any steel/aluminum mags (short)?
Not sure which ones are compatible.

>>33728765
Because they make a killing on the Australian and New Zealand market.

>>33727900
My Howa is sub MOA but it's pretty fussy, it likes its federals.

>>33727900
I own the Vanguard S2 and it gets 0.9 on average with 168gr Hornady BTHP match.

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>ywn have the weab-uzi

>>33728807
so the japs are cucking their own people out of guns while cucking the aussies and kiwis out of their money

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>>33727687

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>ywn own one

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Mine is okay in .308. I bought just the barreled action locally and had to import a stock from overseas since Howas aren't very common where I live.

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>>33729478
>>33728827

Why are nip gun-desgins pure sex?

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>>33727687

>>33730431
just "okay"?

Howa-bout no

>>33729478
i want one so fucking bad

>>33730472
>nip gun designs
>posts SKS's

>>33727687
Do the type 64 and type 89 rifles bear the Chrysanthemum mark like the prior Arisakas?

>>33727687
jap rifles have to be the most exotic rifles there is because they are not exported at all. Though maybe sure there's one in a private collection of some millionaire gotten through less than legal means...

>>33732424
and by not exported i mean the military rifles, not some hunting rifle. just to clarify.

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My 1500, accurate lil bastard it is.

>>33731230
it's a meme you dip

>>33730431
You may want to look into a different scope attachment system.

>>33728936
well there priced slightly higher then milsurp in Australia so its actually a really good for people who want an inexpensive rifle in a cheaper modern caliber

>>33728936
there is some japs with rifles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdkQa0hgBBE

>>33732463
Howa is all around here (California) legacy sports/Howa is located in Reno Nevada .
they have superb build quality for the price

>>33730431
>>33730431
Where do you live?

>Volkswagen truck?

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>>33727900
>Howa those accuracy wise?

>>33732463
>>33730431
>>33727715
I ordered a barreled receiver and it arrived at my ffl yesterday. I don't get home until friday and after that there's still a 10 day waiting period. So fucking excited to build this thing. I bought a MDT LSS chassis for it.

How far do you guys shoot? What MOA? What caliber and what load? What optics/magazines? Did anyone glass bed the barrel?

The one I bought is 24" heavy threaded barrel in .308. going to attach a BRT covert comp to it. Never shot rifles before and I'm just buying some german surplus 7.62 for now.

Whats the dirt on Howa bolt actions? I hear the receivers are questionable material wise. Perfectly fine for the round they're chambered in, but if you try and force it on hotter rounds is may explode.

They seem to come up to 7 rem mag, so i can't imagine the receiver being weak.

>>33732849
No issues with mine, only issue I had was I had to switch out the extractor spring with and AR safety spring otherwise, took all off ten minutes and the dissembly of the bolt takes 5 seconds. (I heard this only happens in the .223 models)

>>33732849
>>33732913
I should elaborate only issue with the extractor thing I've seen isnon the 1500 in .223, but if you look it up it's not very frequent. And Howa answered the phone within 5 rings and I was on with a tech in 3-4 minutes.

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>>33732639
South Africa

>>33732498
It doesn't look nice the way it sits on the rails. But it doesn't move and is also sitting at the perfect height.

Don't fix what isn't broken.

>>33732954
good luck with your upcoming race war anon

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>>33732649

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>>33732639
>>33732954
It's a Volkswagan Amarok.

>>33733021
Is it the v6 turbo diesel?

>>33733061
Naa, mine is only a 2.0L diesel. Not great, but definitely not bad. Good on fuel.

The V6 only just came out this year and there is a huge back order for them. Hopefully by the time I upgrade they have plenty.

>>33733114
Nothing shabby about a diesel 4 banger, especially a 2 liter

>>33733114
>tfw econo diesel trucks are rare in the US because people are retarded and associate it with semi trucks and generators
IT BURNS CLEANER THAN GAS WITH MODERN TECH YOU FUCKING HIPPIES

>>33733195
it also has a lot to do with VW cheating on their emissions tests

>>33733224
>this meme again
If all cars were held to the standard with no monkeying around no cars would fucking pass, it's fucking bullshit meant to make cars more expensive and force people to buy them.

>>33730519
underbuttered toast

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muh howa

>>33733276
They only faked the tests to avoid an import and sales tax from your government. Making the cars cheaper for poorfags like you.

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>>33733388
oh hey i go to sunnyvale
this is me>>33732671
pic is from their handgun section

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>>33733388
>googled howa m1 car bean
>Nagoya, Japan
>mfw

Is this the same company that was the Nagoya Arsenal?

>>33733534
All arms production back then was federalized, but it is the same area.

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>>33727801
>mfw Japanese are noguns and can't sell weapons to civilians
>mfw the closest I'll ever get to shooting a type 64 is a type 89 airsoft gun

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkxUEFBPEbY
FUARK

Yeah I got me a Howa

<.< >.>
A Howa 1500...

>>33733276
>I enjoy breathing shitty air

wew

>>33734327
>emissions standards for commuter vehicles have anything to do with air quality
It must be nice being that fucking brainless and smug about it.

>>33733534
>female_japanese_resistance_member_holding_M1_Carbine_Colorized

>>33734360
>The smog never existed
>It was all goberment pacification sprays

>Now post-war jap surplus

Fuck those nips, I want their guns dammit. Even their camo is hard to get.

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>>33734582
have to go diving in the sea of japan

Tfw new howa 1500 at gunsmith

>>33733195
But diesel vehicles are really popular with hippies.
who else owns vanagons and old diesel mercedes these days?

Howa overunders make nice skeet guns.

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>>33732671
>tfw several howa 1500 owners on /k/ and literally none of them can answer your basic questions

>>33733388
>Oh look at me Im MadB
>I have a Howa M1 Carbine and a bunch of AP 30-06

>>33730978
not funny

>>33736128
What's wrong with it? I'd send it to Howa before a gunsmith, lifetime warranty and turn around is only 2-4 weeks max(what I was told by the tech)

>>33732671
I have a 1500, in .223, 22" barrel, I shoot 100-300 yards (I've seen videos of a .223 1500 shooting 1k yards)
I consistently get 1-2.5 moa at 200 yards, with just a 55grain wolf gold. That's with the stock Houge stock, I want the archangel stock (the one 1500/223 I saw had that stock and was plinking a 8" target @1000yards)
I have the stock Nikko sterling 3-9/42 scope, it's decent but I'll get a zeiss later on(I do photo and I use Sony/zeiss glass only, my preference)

>>33732671
Also I ordered the ATI 10 round detachable mag kit, I'll update when I GT it, only heard its lightweight and seems fragile but never heard of one breaking, polymer nowadays is pretty stout albeit being lightweight)

>>33741538
*get
Been drinking forgive my drunk self

>>33733703
They make Type 64 airshit, though.

>>33741526
And mind my moa is ehh, but I've only just got back into shooting (haven't shot since I was 16, now 28) but I still have better groups then I'd say 90% of the people who are shooting with me at 100-200 yards.

>>33741526
>>33741538
I've ditched the german surplus idea and I'm now considering 168gr BTHP by PPU for $0.75 per round.

http://www.sgammo.com/product/308-win-762x51-ammo/20-round-box-308-match-168-grain-bthp-prvi-partizan-ammo-pp321

I'm not shooting comp or anything so as long as I get around 1 moa at 100-300 yards, I'm happy.
I also bought a SWFA SS 3-15x42 scope for it.
Just using a magpul CTR stock and hogue grips on the MDT LSS chassis.

>>33741568
Did you get a factory threaded barrel or do any glass bedding? Any issues I should be aware off?

>>33732671
>>33741538
IIRC with .308 you should be able to shoot up to 500-600 with 168gr SMK loads, after which you'll need 175gr or higher to avoid your bullets eating shit because of wind.

Your ideal bullet will somewhat depend on your twist rate, with faster twists being better for heavier bullets.

Surplus is absolute shit for getting good groups due to the high variance of manufacturing. Ideally you'll want to get match ammo (from Federal, Hornady, etc.) with open-/hollow-tip and boat tail for long range.

Glass bedding and bottom metal is unnecessary for any chassis worth a damn, and the LSS should fall under it.

For magazines, the AI-pattern PMAGs are the best bang for the buck (like $30 or something compared to $50-70 for others), but YMMV. Sometimes they don't drop free or require some feed lip break-in before working.

Otherwise you can shell out for an Alpha Mag ($50) or an actual AI magazine. Make sure you get the AI (single-stack single-feed) and not the AX (double-stack single-feed) pattern ones since the AX aren't reverse-compatible.

I don't think compensators are ever used on precision rifles since muzzle brakes are a lot more effective at reducing recoil and muzzle rise. You will need crush washers or a jamb nut to time them properly.

>>33741782
How is it that hollow points are more accurate than regular pointy tip projectiles. I know its a thing but it seems kinda counterintuitive.

>>33741782
I didn't get the covert comp to reduce recoil or muzzle rise, which I don't really care about. I got it just to direct concussion away from myself and everyone near me.

>>33741826
Fuddlore says because there's an air bubble at the front while in-flight but it's untrue. The reason is because making bullets the FMJ way (copper jacket molded front to back) is less consistent than the hollow point way (copper jacket molded back to front).

>>33741829
If you care about getting small groups, you will care about recoil and muzzle rise.

The key to accuracy is reducing variance of all kinds between shots. This includes gun positioning, your positioning, the amount of powder in each cartridge, the shape and weight of the bullet, etc. For these reasons the best way to get high accuracy is to hand-load (to reduce powder/bullet weight differences), have a heavy rifle (more weight = less movement), use a thicker barrel (more consistent between shots), and have an effective muzzle brake.

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>>33728765
I'm tired of americans thinking
>duurhhh only muricans can into freedoms
>funs are illegal EVERYWHERE except for my murica

>>33741915
>making bullets the FMJ way (copper jacket molded front to back) is less consistent than the hollow point way (copper jacket molded back to front)

So if they jacketed an fmj bullet the same way the did a hollow point would it be the most accurate?

Also because this applies to the jacketing I assume that means that the cheap tula hollowpoint .223 isn't more accurate than the fmj stuff? Since they use unjacketed bi metal projectiles.

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>>33742003
>>funs are illegal EVERYWHERE except for my murica
In the grand scheme of things, this is a true statement

>>33730431
nice

that's almost exactly what I want to do with my 30-06 howa.

how do you like that stock?

>>33742129
No its not you retard, name countries where you can't get a gun at all
>inb4 china

>>33742361
name countries where you can get an ar-15 without having to go through draconian bullshit

>>33741717
It's a factory barrel, end is not treaded. Just the stock blued barrel. I've had no issues, just clean it and follow the break in procedure(follow manual).
.308 is solid. I plan on another 1500, 30-06 or 308(the whitetail kit is pretty solid/10rd detachable/stronger scope/bipod-$600~)
Great rifle and it's built very good, glad I chose this over the savage or the rem compareables.

>>33742375
That's not my point retard, what I mean was NO GUN AT ALL no AR15 doesn't mean that.
Also
>czech republic
>switzerland
>the whole middle east
>phillipines
>slovenia
>serbia
>panama
>ukraine
>south africa
The list goes on and most of the contries that I just named have even better gun laws than the US

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>>33742069
The "hollow-point" nature is a by-product of a manufacturing process developed for consistency. It's not designed explicitly for fragmentation like typical HP loads, but to have superior ballistics.

Notice in the picture that the FMJ (M80 ball) has an opening at the bottom (where the casting stops) whereas the SMK has the opening at the top.

The reason the match ammo is expensive (e.g. for .308 it's ~$1.00/round compared to $.40-.50/round for cheap steel) is due to the higher QA and manufacturing required to achieve the consistency. Tula is good for plinking since it's cheap (hard primers and occasional double-loads be damned), but no one ever seriously competes in a match with it.

As an additional note, brass vs steel casing doesn't really matter for accuracy (it's just harder on the extractor) as evidenced by the very favorable Hornady Steel Match (~75-80 cpr), but lots of people get brass so they can handload in the future. It's just that cheaper ammo generally uses steel, and cheaper ammo is generally lower quality.

>>33741717
Plenty of people have had decent luck with PPU BTHP for practice, but I've never seen brag-worthy groups from it. The most annoying thing I found with them is that the COAL varies quite a bit from cartridge to cartridge, which means sometimes it's a pain in the ass to chamber them in my R700. The brass is decent for reloading from what I hear, too.

>>33732954
Good luck with the race war, if you be a Suidlander.

>>33742511
Anything you would suggest for practice? Considering this
http://www.sgammo.com/product/308-win-762x51-ammo/20-round-box-762x51-nato-147-grain-fmj-bt-ammo-made-germany-men-2016-men

and the 168gr BTHP PPU, getting both at least to see which my rifle likes. Good brass for reloading is also welcome.

>>33742628
Cursory search says that ammo should be fine, but the results are from M14/FAL forums, whose barrels use 1:14 and 1:12 twists respectively.

Like I said earlier, faster twists are for heavier bullets, so you might get subpar results with a 147 gr in a 1:10. There's a bit of debate over whether overstabilization is that big of an issue, but anecdotal evidence says 1:10 .308 barrels work better with the 168gr+ range.

In the end, every rifle is different due to barrel harmonics, so to get the absolute best performance takes a lot of trial and error. On the plus side, people seem to like the MEN brass (non-crimped primers, boxer primed, pretty consistent) for reloading.

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I have a muzzle device

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>>33737821
500ish rounds ain't that many brah