/msg/ MILSURP GENERAL

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i haven't been to the range in 3 months. WTF did the time go.

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ugh. i still need to get some more powder so i can do a batch of reloads for this old girl.

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chassepot best pot

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>>33727373
>When it's overcast
Fuck you.

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>>33727559
>When it's overcast

come to Washington some time and you will know overcast

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>>33728006
Na, I'll stick with Detroit. It's nice here and we have better beer.

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>>33728011
Gonna live out that Gran Torino dream huh.

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>>33728252
Never seen that movie all the way through honestly.

Also my neighborhood is much too nice for such concerns.

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I still need to shoot my 1903. Might try for tomorrow.

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>Overcast
I think "State on Fire" lighting is even better than overcast

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>>33728011
Though you might want this.

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Which set of grips looks better?

Both came with the gun. Personally, I like the aesthetics of the wood, but the plastic grips are so much more comfortable to hold.

>>33728618
Yeah I followed that. $3000 for a fucking refinished one. I only paid $2000 for mine in unaltered condition. I could probably double that if I were so inclined.

>>33728632
I like the black grips imo they go well with the gun and make it look like it has seen the wars

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>>33728011
>Detroit

You a Wings fan billy? I was literally up there for the Wings v Avs game last month.

>>33728710
Yes, though it's a shame the state we're in at the moment. We desperately need 2 new goalies.

It's good you got to see the Joe though.

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>>33727373
Got this isreali mauser the other day for $250 OTD

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>>33728724
yea I've made a few pilgrimages to the Joe. Im going to miss it, but it really needs to be replaced. fucker was falling apart.

>dat tim hortons
>muh 'lil caesars

the food at scottrade center sucks ass. they had a killer chicken and waffle sammich once upon a time, but in keeping with blues tradition they got rid of it and kept all the shit food.

next year when I go up there I'll let you know. if ticket prices arn't too bad I can get you a seat too and we can talk about cosmoline during the intermissions.

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>>33728759
>Got this isreali mauser the other day for $250 OTD
Good buy. 8x57IS or 7.62NATO?

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>>33728770
If I don't get thrown out. I have a... history at hockey games.

But at the very least we can get a drink. Tons of awesome places for that.

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>>33728794
>>33728724
they'll be fine. Holland seems to have some of his mojo back. and the goalies are fine (except for howards salary and injury proneness).

they just need 2 top 4 defencemen. at some point they need to cut sling load on a couple of the kids and accept that they'll be 30 goal scorers on a different team.

Larkin/Mantha/Athanasiou are the core of the next cup team.

>>33728759
I want one.

>>33728759
well thats a deal

>>33728759
what a nice looking gun.

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IT ARRIVED

>>33729006
what year is? do you have any information on it?

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>>33729044
Oh god, packing peanuts.

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>>33729057
I really loathe these fucking things.

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>>33729046
1904. mfd in 1905 iirc. it shoots well.

heres the crest

Why are pre WWII kar98's so damn expensive?

I went to a gun show today and saw a couple and the people were all asking like 1200-1500. Were they just dicks or are they that expensive?

they were all non matching numbers

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>>33729064
It finally arrived though. An early L series. Made around early 1945. Surprisingly still original matching and not refinished. Little bits of it's original paint still there. Just was restocked and I think the front band was replaced as it's the stamped ring and not the ring like a Berthier has.

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>>33729112
Looks nice next to my WWII correct pre armistice made one.

>>33729070
nice find. id like to collect old rifles like this. currently just have an sks, and a wingmaster 12 guage.

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>>33729122
>>33729112
Looks better than my post armistice one

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>>33729077
probably both.

my Kar98 was $450 (2012).

just gotta hunt around

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>>33729191
yea, i got lucky. they only made 5,000 of those federal police ones

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>>33728883
We'll see. I don't think we're gonna have a Cup worthy team until we replace Howard. He just isn't good under pressure. And losing Datsuyk last season hurt us even more.
>>33729112
Nice indeed. I need to take better pictures of my Mas.

>>33728794
hnnnnng I want a lebel 1886 so bad. What did you pay for it?

Went to a gun show today, and didnt find anything good. Need some recommendations on what to buy online now, looking for soemthing in 30-06 to keep calibers similar. Already have a m1 garand and converted argie masuer

>>33729668

m1903

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>>33728710
>tfw still dont have a SMLE.

Whys it so hard to find a 1903 with just a cutdown stock and original sights? I got a stock and hardware set for $25 and need a rifle now. I might just try and find a drilled and tapped one, with the original barrel length, and make a pseudo sniper out of it.

>>33729599
$625 or so. It's a great gun, shockingly accurate.

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>finally get new k98 trigger with sear for Yugo mauser
>rust everywhere on the trigger and sear
>clean it off and install
>mfw the bolt becomes way easier to close
>mfw I can activate the safety without using a screwdriver as leverage

still not as smooth to close as my other rifles but at least now I can activate the fucking safety.

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>>33730757
Glad you got it resolved boss, I know that was bugging the fuck out of you.

I just bought an 1873 from Simpsons, any cowboy action 45-70 should be safe right?

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My urushi arrived!

sqeeeeeeeeeeee

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>>33730757
>having a safety on a bolt action rifle
>>33731028
For what purpose?

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>>33731423
>For what purpose?
fixing the finish

>>33727373

In the last couple of months I've bought a (mutilated) Krag, a Trapdoor Springfield, an M39, an M48 (that hasn't shipped yet) and a K31 (that hasn't shipped yet).

I am all tapped out for the next month or so.

>>33729934

There's one hanging on the wall at my FFL. I might buy it next time I'm there.

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>>33729934
Every time I try to buy one they disappear at the last minute.
I went to buy one last paycheck and a guy walked out with the gun as I walked in the door. I was steamed.

>>33728011
>he needs a pistol permit
kek

>haven't bought a milsurp rifle in months

feels bad, but I really needed to restock ammo.

>>33728006

Got our first sunny day in a month, and that was the first sunny day in 3 months.

>>33727388
thats a beautiful rifle

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>>33732009
yea i got really lucky at that auction. she shoots nice too.

>>33729064
put them into a jar half filled with deisel and acetone 1:1 to make 'kong-be-gone , my napalm recipe

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>still need a nose cap for the Kar88

a project that may never get finished.

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>>33731923
Heres the first SMLE i found locally. Never seen one since. People are very proud of their enfields on jewbroker also.

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>>33731956
Not since 2012.

>>33728439
>>33728710

Is the bayonet mount thing over the muzzle of the Lee Enfields prior to the Mk 4 no 1 a dust cover or flash suppressor or something as well? And can one be added to the Mk 4?

>>33732343
Are you talking about the nose cap? Its just a nose cap, i sits more or less flush with the muzzle.
I suppose with some work it could fit but its more effort than im willing to put in

>>33732392
Ah ok. I like the look of it and the older non-spike bayonets, but the only ones available to me at the moment are the mk 4 unfortunately.

>>33732457
No problem. The older ones do look sexy as all hell but i think the no4s are better rifles overall

>>33731923
>>33732141
Tfw 2 of them at my LGS at $400 and 475

One has a bad bore, and the other has a bad stock and my autism won't allow either.

>>33732505

Buy both, make one good rifle out of them and then sell the shitty one.

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>>33732505
There are several mutilated sporters but I can't bring myself to buy anything that haram

>>33732520
If I'm not mistaken, they are both different models (like mk1 and mk3 maybe) and it didn't look like the stocks would swap.

Maybe I'm wrong though. I'm not too knowledgeable about them.

I'm considering trying to find a stock and barrel for my Krag to de-sporterize it.

>>33727388

This pic made my dick twitch a little

I know this is the milsurp gen and maybe this question belongs in /qtddtot/ but why does no one make a large caliber modern rolling block action rifle?

>>33732843

Why would they?

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>>33732588
Good luck. It'll be cheaper to just buy a proper krag.

But if you wanna be a gun necromancer, go nuts.
>>33732843
Rolling block isn't all that strong honestly. Great for the days of black powder and can handle certain smokeless calibers (in their moderate military loadings) but it isn't well suited for modern loads.

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>>33732457
they do have a "pig sticker" bayonet for the No4

If I want a martini to actually take out to the range a martini-enfield is the way to go, right? Should I expect to pay around $700 for one in decent condition?

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>>33733088
try to find one of the .303 conversions, they usually run for less than 700

>>33733038

Actually given what I paid for it and given the prices I've seen on GB for parts it would probably be about the same amount of money. Depending on if the gunsmith rapes me or not.

Turns out applying urushi is pretty hard.

using a bubba'd stock to practice first, but i think i need a much higher quality brush, shit has so many lines on it.

Thinned it 50/50 just on a guess. its given the wood a slight golden hue, stupidly thin layer though. Will need atleast 4 until it looks right.

>>33733500

doing the emperors work friend

>bought M95
>have no idea where the fuck to buy 8x56R

usually I go through cabellas to buy PPU ammo but I don't see it on their website.

am I fucked boys?

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>>33733893
Mostly.

PPU does make some, its just sporadic.

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>>33733893
http://ammoseek.com/ammo/8x56mm

>>33733893

also I have been looking around trying to find basic data on what the loadout in powder was because right now all 8x56R that I can find is 208 grain and that seems a bit high. was that the standard the m95 was set too? or am I risking blowing this gun up using 208 grain?

>>33733947
>>33733927

god bless thank you. I don't have the facilities ready to try reloading myself.

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>>33733948
>was that the standard the m95 was set too?
Yes; M30 ball was 206gr projectile.
>Captcha: sold YAHWEH

>>33733948
You sure thats not the bullet? I wouldn't trust that unless it was the blackpowder loading.

>>33727373
fuck this shit faggots, the last thing we need is more fucking millennials with more money than brains driving up prices because of stupid video games

>>33731471
fix my finish onii-chan

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@33734021

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>Working C96's are $2,000 minimum now

Goddamn it, I want me a cheap surplus Broomhandle

>>33734163

I doubt C96s were ever cheap.

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>>33734021
Yeah, better to keep them cheap so bubba can have their way with them.

Dumbass. If you're worried about price try spending some of that effort to increase your income instead.

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>>33734021
BF1 fags arn't old enough to purchase firearms, let alone pistols.

suck my frog bayonet

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>>33734163
nuggetfest is in October. maybe ill bring mine along.

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>>33734163
There are several on Gunbroker for under $1200.

>>33734021

>tfw battlefield 1 helped make me want to get into guns
>realizing I lacked hobbies and already liked the historical firearms and military tech made me really get into milsurp

honestly some bf1 dude getting into guns and forgetting about the gun for a year isn't as bad as bubba chopping the barrel off and adding a tacticool sight.

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>>33731471
It's hidden under the band though? It's going to be pretty hard to match the color.
>>33733500
It's also related to poison ivy. Enjoy itching.

>>33734604

When I bought my Trapdoor Springfield I joked about chopping the barrel off and putting a red dot and a vertical foregrip on it.

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>>33734726
Yea the band hides it completly. color matching will be a bitch. The original Urushi varied by the maker and time of month, but the clear over many layers supposedly takes on a brown/red tint. The goop in the can has a rd orange hue to it, so I'm on the right track atleast. The golden first layer already looks like some of the handguards.


> Enjoy itching.

I'm immune. poison ivy doesn't touch me, and thus far sanding the bubba stock to get a usable splice didn't do anything, and the blob i dripped on myself of this cashew stuff hasn't done anything either.

fun fact, that 2inch tall can cost $35

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>>33734845

oh dear god

>>33734966

Also a folding stock, I forgot that earlier.

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>>33735002
>trapdoor with a folding stock

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>>33735002
>>33735030
Gibbs made a No4 in 45/70. pre-fudded. just get that instead

>>33735102
I kind of want to get a rechambered milsurp gun and put the original furniture back on.

>milsurp aesthetics in common caliber

>>33735030

Shush, you know you'd buy one in a heartbeat.

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>>33734933
>Immune to poison ivy
And I thought I was the only one.

>>33728386
That's sad. I'd put it up with Rocky as being of the greatest movies of all time.

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>>33735205
I probably should have watched it tonight but I can never say no to V for Vendetta.

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>go into pawn shop
>enfields, arisakas, krags, mausers and sks's everywhere
>every single one is fucking sporterized all to hell

>>33735297

>go to pawn shop
>it's literally nothing but shot guns

I wish I knew how to pick out a trench gun because I swear at least 4 of the fucking shotguns looked exactly like a WW1 trench gun.

>>33735322
Does it have an exposed hammer? If it does, it's probably a Winchester 97, which is what they used in WWI

Unfortunately, they're probably not true trenchers at a pawn shop. They're either Norinco clones, which are fine guns but not historical, or they're fake trenchers made by cutting down full length 97's like some sort of fucking savage.

The Model 12 is the other iconic trench shotgun, but looks more like a normal shotgun and is a bit harder to pick out by sight.

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>>33727373

>>33735610
holy shit nigger thats a dirty rifle

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>>33735754
You can do better than that.

>tfw contemplating spending 10k on a Lahti
Should I do it?

>>33735865

>he doesn't want 20mm of juicy finnish bam bam

honestly no idea for if you should or shouldn't but a Lahti is a goal gun for me.

>>33727559
>>33728011
>>33728386
>>33728794
>>33729314
>>33730023
>>33730903
>>33732178
>>33733038
>>33734566
>>33735248
Yo I'm the M95 guy from the last thread. I see you have a ton of milsurps pictured individually, but do you have a picture of all of them together? How fucking many do you have total?

Also, thanks for the helpful info regarding the M95.

Ive got a couple of bad enfield clips, is there anything i can do to make them work better? file them down a bit, bend them with pliers, anything?

>>33736123

you could try those but note you may damage the clips further.

are you the guy getting the Australian surplus clips now?

>>33736123
I used long sockets from a socket wrench kit and a vice. Stick the socket sideways into the clip and tighten them together in a vice. Just start small, go slow, and it will bend out to fit properly.

>>33736206
Nah but i read about that last thread. Il order some next paycheck. Ive got some buddies coming down that want to go shooting, just trying to get something working so they can see how clips actually work

What's an average price for a No.4 Mk1 in good condition? I have the opportunity to get one locally, but it's $860. I know I've seen Enfields for way less, but I'm not a total expert on them.

Bore is bright and shiny. Wood has character, obviously.

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>>33736948
probably $350-500 these days

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>>33735996
Nope, no picture of them all together. As for how many... I dunno 30? If it's not 30 it's pretty close.

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keep it bumpin

I have a new Yugo sks. It's my first gun and I want to take good care of it, starting with how I remove the cosmoline and finish the stock.
Advice?

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>>33738164
oily rags. paper towels.

if its a LOT of cosmo, then wrap it in a towel and put it in a black trashbag and leave it in the sun on a hot day

>>33738164
shoot the gun, it will blow out and use up the cosmoline.


its good lube too for the bolt

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This is she. Not a crazy amount of cosmo, but I want to be thorough. Advice as far as a finish?

>>33738219
Negative

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I'm going to be buying my first milsurp rifle soon, and I've gotten it down to two rifles.
The Mannlicher m95 in 8x56, or the Yugo version in 8 millimeter Mauser.
The former is much more common, but the ladder has very common ammo.
Which should I buy?

>>33738265
Do you reload and how often do you plan on shooting?

>>33738298
I don't reload, and I've yet to find a place that sells bullets and the brass for 8x56.

>>33738319
Start. Graf's has both

>>33738396
I guess the only issue is how cost effective will it be, even with reloading, the cost of the equipment might end up putting more of a hole in my wallet than the gun.
I'm not against it, just unsure if I should with the cost.

>>33738447
You save money with almost every caliber. And you're making match grade ammo for less than the cost of plinking ammo.

The days of cheap surplus ammo are over. If you're gonna get into surplus and you actually want to shoot your guns and you aren't a richfag, you need to reload.

>>33738447
If you plan on buying one rifle that you shoot maybe once a year, then no.

If you want more, or plan on shooting a lot, it's invaluable.

Cheap milsurp is long gone

>>33738505

Different fag here, I just won a K31 that comes with a reloading die. I don't have any reloading gear, so I'm considering actually getting started. On the other hand I doubt I'll shoot my milsurp that much so...

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>>33727373
Only image I have on my phone at the moment. 1968 production.

>>33736918

are they bad like putting rounds in is too tight and they can't come out when you try to charge your rifle with them?

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>>33738319
Grafs and Buffalo Arms have both. But if you don't reload you're not gonna be shooting much. PPU is the only maker of 8x56 and they only do it seasonally.

>>33738319

if you have the facilities for reloading like a workbench and are really crazy into shooting then yes get into reloading.

if you're into shooting occasionally and live in an apartment reloading won't be quite as worth it.

>>33738641
Okay since I don't know much about reloading, do you know a good place to learn? What to buy, where to buy it, how to do it, etc?

>>33738659
Hickok and Iraqveteran8888 both have good YouTube videos on the subject. For reading material, the ABCs of Reloading and Modern Reloading (2nd Edition) are great. The RCBS Rock Chucker kit is a great starter, I still use most of the stuff I got in it to this day.

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>>33728759
Welcome, fellow Israeli-Mauser bro. These things have essentially no recoil in .308, its incredible.

>>33738557
Since 7.5 Swiss shoots a .308 bullet, you can reload it for pretty cheap. There's plenty of GP11 out right now for a reasonable price so you can get away with shooting it for about 60 cents per round right now.

>>33738659
Lee kit on Amazon is cheap and has almost everything you need to get started.

Get a reloading manual.

I found plans online to make a little stand for my press. Made it out of 2x6's and 2x12s. Very sturdy.

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Looks like the only extant Cossack Cavalry carbine in America is up for sale. And at $4500 too....

Might have to dip into my savings.

>>33739100
I have one of those

>>33739169
A Mas 49? Please, share it.

>>33739100
wheres it at? theres a cossack marked 91/38 on GB right now for 800.

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>>33739306
Gunboards. The 91/38 is probably from the same seller.

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Was I retarded on passing these up?

So I recently got a second SVT. It's got no import mark, no Finn mark, non-refurb. The weird thing is, it's got two serial numbers on the receiver. Is that common?

>>33739814
yeah, I mean they are pretty meh tier but there are few exceptions to guns you shouldnt buy if they are $150

>>33739814
for those prices, yes

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>>33739814
I think on the Vetterli for sure. They're neat mechanical pieces.

Turkish Mauser maybe; you don't see the ATF-marked ones that often, but IMO that's about what it's worth unless it had matching numbers.

>>33738632
Yup thats the problem. Same issue as last thread, theyre marked gm1, i was sort of hoping i could just file away at them till it works. Doesnt matter if they get ruined since they dont work.

>>33740055

you could try light filing and then using something like wd-40 to lubricate the clips and see if the bullets make it through.

is it the back of the clip grinding on the rim causing problems or the edge of the clip with the middle of the bullet causing the issues?

>>33740134
Seems to be the lips are too tight, they mare up the brass a bit when putting them in or taking them out. Rims look fine but i cant say for certain theyre not getting caught

>>33731728
>wrinkled flag.
Donnyfags are the worst.

>>33740246
Give it time. Is a new acquisition.

>>33740208
From what I remember the GM chargers are Italian repros with a rough coating on them.

Lightly file and polish the inside of them.

Even with originals the brass sometimes gets marred.

Get English or Australian chargers. Sarco has them.

>>33740461
Do you not know what a fucking iron is?

>>33740804
A metallic element named ferrum with the symbol FE and the atomic number 26.

Also a useful tool for steaming out dents in wood

Also not something you should use on cheapo plastic fabrics

>>33740804
im a man, so no

i will ask my wife to iron my Trump flags though, i might even grab her pussy while she does it

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Anyone do any shooting this weekend? I took my 1903 out for the first time.

>>33741571

haven't been in the mood in the past two weeks. been staying home and fixing my mauser up and playing video games.

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>>33741571
I wish, but it's been too cold.

Also I have work but mostly the cold. I probably won't go until June. Nice 1903 by the way.

>>33741308
>needing your wife to do basic shit for you

>>33741571
ive only been out once since november. got about a half dozen new gats i need to fire.

>that feeling when someone bids on a rifle your after, and he has a bunch of grey blanket and other meme merchants feedback

>>33741308
>the masculinity of a drumpfster is so fragile he has to make his wife do basic shit any other man would do by himself and then resort to false bravado on a Lithuanian Mauser collecting forum

>>33742308
>>33741970

honestly if you dont support Trump you probably shouldnt be on a weapons related board.

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>>33742342

>win arisaka on gunbroker
>dude only wants to be paid via paypal
>never fucking used paypal before
>shipping cost literally just says "other" with no cost
>mfw I want to pay for this fucking thing but the dude isn't calling/emailing back to tell me shipping costs

I JUST WANT MY ARISAKA MAN

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>>33742451
what model Arisaka?

provided the seller isnt dead, paypal is pretty convenient. normally you have to mail postal money orders which takes awhile and costs extra.

but be patient, dude might be busy/out of town, sometimes it takes sellers ~2 days to get back after end of auction.

Picked up an Ishapore 7.62 Enfield for $180 from a private seller. No rust in sight and the bore is pristine. The previous owner cleaned the wood up to the point I would have to say its my prettiest looking milsurp. The fact that it can shoot 7.62 NATO (and possibly .308) is a major plus since I have other rifles in that caliber and I don't want the hassle of .303. The only problem is that he gave it to a family member who added a Tasco scope, which involved drilling into the receiver.
I don't mind that a scope was added, since its just an Indian rifle from the 60's. I actually consider it a plus because its the only scoped rifle I currently own.
How much would such a rifle be worth?

>sorry, no pictures at the moment.

>>33742532
In the neighborhood of $200

>>33742532
$100-200 is the standard price of ANY milsurp thats been bubba'd.

>>33742525

type 99 with a very nice mum.

>>33742586
Not for tanker Garands.

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Hi /k/

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>>33742601
those arnt really "bubba'd" though. Its a professional conversion. For example, some of the Gibbs made up rifles (jungle carbines, 03 snipers, the 45/70 No4 posted above) sell for several hundred dollars.

'tanker' webleys that were professionally cut down by importers sell for about the same as their unfucked contemporaries.

but 'bubba' sporters are always $200 and below.

>>33742663
Professional bubba is still bubba

How hard would It be too find he parts to build an FN49 from a stripped receiver?

>>33742915
Just buy a complete gun. Cheaper and easier.

>>33742970
Maybe I want a challenge

>>33734163
>http://ammoseek.com/ammo/8x56mm

I'm selling one right now. for $1000 that includes 300 rounds of ammo. However, it doesn't have any rifling left, but it can be relined for $200.

>>33742663
Unless a military arsenal did the work. Its a bubba. It doesn't matter if Century or Bannerman did the work. It doesn't matter if Larry Potterfield did a video on the work. They weren't Sargent Bubba.

>>33742342
>you have to support the Jews latest puppet to enjoy guns
Off yourself

>>33743379
Don't worry anon. we won that battle. Shillary lost and bernout got backstabbed.

>>33743992
>being this new to politics

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For the love of Christ keep /pol/ in /pol/.

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>have a series of black splotches on my Yugo receiver
>have no idea if it's rust or not
>steel wool + wd 40 does nothing

is this shit rust? or is it just a really old bluing that's worn off?

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>>33744108
Sometimes receivers just get like that. It ain't no thang, if it's any consolation my Yugo is two toned

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>>33744064
its my fault for thinking that no one on /k/ would get triggered by a Trump flag.

>>33730903
Pic related just keep g o i n g u p

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>>33744180

okay cool I wish shitting bricks about the idea of having to use stronger stuff like acetone to get the rust out and risk damaging the receiver and possibly the barrel if I wasn't careful.

>>33744205
>mfw svt-40s will never be imported into the united states from Russia en masse

tragic senpai it's one of the big guns on my list but at 1k it just isn't justifiable. kind of praying for some miracle where they get imported along with old ak-47s.

>>33744274
I wish I could find a nice one for $1000

Anyone have any idea what the finish on these looked like as issued?

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>>33744274
Acetone wouldn't hurt anything. I routinely dunk mine in Kerosene to degrease the fuck out of them and remove superficial rust with bronze wool.

But to answer your question that is technically rust, but its been aged to the point of being inert. Some will call it patina. It won't hurt anything anymore. You can't scrub it away because its in a divot and the wool just glides over the edges of the pit. You could get one of those pointed wire wheels and possibly knock it out with some kroil to get under it if you really wanted to all uniform in color though.

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>>33744205
They're in line with other semi auto rifles of the era for the most part.

>>33744666
So not the shellac that the SKS was finished with or what is on the typical refurb?

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>svt finish example 1/2

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>2/2

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>>33744396
Let me show you rust son. Albeit not on a gun

>>33741571

It's been raining for the past 6 months so I haven't done much shooting. I'm not taking my milsurp out in the rain.

>>33742342

I supported Johnson.

>>33744274

I'd pay $1K for an SVT-40, but only after I pick up a few other guns. I share your hope that our current administration will reopen imports en masse though.

Possibly looking for a Luger next weekend at the funshow. Looking for a better condition shooter. Anything I should know about inspecting it? I know to look at numbers, and things like shallow or uneven markings for signs of refinishing, as well as the infamous chip.

Anything I should know to look for a reliable Luger? Stiffness of the springs? internal problems?

>>33744884
From what I've heard there are SVTs for sale in Russia, and nothing stopping their importation, but the Russians want too much for them

>>33744903

Pretty sure the sanctions we have on Russia will stop their importation.

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>>33744780
And heres some rust on a gun for you.


I should convert to a tripfag. wither milsurp doctor, or milsurp undertaker.

>>33744932
Oh never mind I guess they fall under the mutual restraint agreement
>cough bullshit

>>33744986

Before he gets ganked I'd love to see Trump push through a sanctuary law that allows any milsurp to be imported.

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>>33745036
i want to see the NFA registry opened. I'd love to convert my webley to full auto

>>33745469

While repealing Hughes would be nice my main concern is that we'll go too far. If enough laws get rolled back the normies will get scared and push through enough hoplophobes to really fuck us over long-term.

>>33744705
Oh I was talking about SVT prices boss. I don't know shit about finishes.

>>33746194
Your mosin looks very nice. Darkwood and brass is literally the best aesthetic on firarms

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If the anon who was bidding on the Mk3 Ross still winning? It's the final day of the auction.

>>33744957
Spanish Mauser?

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>>33741720
>has job
>spends 22 hours a day in MSG threads
Pick one

>>33748149
Pick both. I'm in management, I actually "work" about 3 hours a day most days.

Got in bidding war, I won but feel like I lost

>>33744884
What is leppo?

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just picked up this yugo mod98/48 for $220 yesterday

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>>33748527

>>33748527
sex
for $220 did good. I'm jelly

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>>33748535
the Chilean 1895

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>>33748566
the 1941 No4 Mk1 Maltby Enfield

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>>33748581
the 1915 GEW 98 Oberndorf, Mauser brand Mauser, all numbers Matching

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>>33748614
the Argentine Mauser 1909

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>>33748062
Why yes it is.

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>>33748630
the Model of 1917 Eddystone with the original finish and barrel dated to 1917

>>33748527
>>33748566
>>33748581
>>33748614
>>33748630
>>33748666
Very nice.

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>>33748527
>>33748535
That's a good buy.

>>33748614
>>33748630
You've been picking up some nice rifles.

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>>33748666

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>>33748614

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>>33749126

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>>33749159

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>>33749183
some older photos of guns i still have
the Romanian M44

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>>33749204
Russian SKS

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>>33749240

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>>33748614
>>33748630
>>33748666
>>33749146
>>33749126
>>33749204
>>33749240
>high impact sexual violence

>>33749240
Das one segzy nugget boi

>>33735116
Beautiful idea.

>>33735774
Jesus didn't die for this.

>>33748149

There was a time, albeit a short, glorious time, where I was doing chat support for Windows Phone and got to spend all day faffing about on the internet and cancelling Xbox Music subscriptions.

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Anyone wanna guess what the new episode on C&Rsenal is gonna be tonight? I'm thinking MG08.

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>>33751023
Trench gun hopefully. I thought othias had finally found one

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>>33751088
Won't be the Trench guns, they just got done with the range time for one of them. Those will probably be end of May or early June.

>>33734021

Yeah because I'm sure you've been lusting for a fucking M95 right?

>>33752176
Well, to be fair if he isn't, he's gay. In fact, he's not only gay, but he has bad taste.

>>33734332
Nuggetfest is in October?

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>>33752322
Midwest Nuggetfest is. Somewhere in MO I think. I might go as well, and of course bring some of my more interesting surps.

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>>33752322
>>33752380
Oct 6-8, Stover MO, on BD's land again.

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>>33734163
I paid $700 and it came with a stock, you really need to learn how to shop around

>>33752927
>I paid $700 and it came with a stock

in 1967

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>>33752973
>1967
I paid that in 2013

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>>33752973
I found one for that price last year. Nice commercial model (I think). Shame it was cash only.

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>>33753115
>>33752994
damn

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>get a Budapest m95
>ridiculously hard to cycle the bolt

I assume this is from force matched bolts? problem is I can't find an electro stenciled number on my bolt.

is there any way I can alleviate this hard to cycle bolt?

>>33748012
I lost. i was winning when i went to sleep though. I guess i got outbid sometime this morning but i literally just got the email saying i lost. Every other auction i get an email within minutes when i start losing.

Sorry man if i knew i was losing i wouldve posted on here

>>33754109
That's alright, it went about my $1250 threshold so I wouldn't have won either.

>>33754251
Still feel bad you were willing to help me and i slept through it all. Price shot up wicked fast near the end, I dont usually see sandbaggers on gunbroker

Theres always next time right? Brightside is i can buy something else now

>>33754333
Yup, always next time. I'm pretty sure the "winner" was either a alt account or another dealer, based on the odd price. So it might turn up again soon.

>>33754398
That was my thinking too. Il admit to getting in a few bidding wars but cant do it with the greyblanket

>>33753371
this may be a weird question but are you talking about when you fire it or when you're just fucking around with it at home, with my m95 the bolt is a lot easier to operate while the gun is shouldered

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>>33754734

I have yet to fire it as I just got it. I have just been cycling the bolt because I like to do that with my milsurp.

I have tried shoulder and it's doable but hard. nearly impossible if I dry fire and try to cycle. I have to move it to a better angle to pull. Or I recock using the back part and pulling that to cock and then cycling which makes it far easier.

even without doing a dry fire cycling is quite difficult.

I did a take apart to get to the grooves and removed some rust from where the locking lugs are but it's difficult to get into. the bolt is clean with no rust.


also as an interesting side note: when I took apart the rifle and looked at the bottom where the barrel and receiver connect there is a giant fucking dent in the barrel like huge dent.

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>>33754998
the bolt is clean with no rust.

actually scratch that I see bits of bright rust in some of the exterior of the bolt that go into the grooves of the rifle.

do I need to do a full take apart of the bolt to fix this fucker up?

>>33755038
L I T H I U M G R E A S E

>>33754998
it may just be a bad match and need some hand fitting. try going over it with a dry erase marker and then see where the ink gets rubbed off when you work da bolt. then touch up those spots with 1000-1200 grit sandpaper and see if that helps

>>33755038
if you're talking about the grooves on the bolt that may be the source of the problem. give them a good scrub with a brass brush and some solvent, then lube them up and put the bolt back together. there should be some guides about bolt disassembly/reassembly online

>>33755228
>>33755161

I have noticed that when I do the very initial pull to uncock it's quite difficult but once I get over that the bolt is quite smooth.

same with going to close it's where the cock on close part is happening is quite difficult.

>>33755322
>uncock

meant cycle. basically the beginning part of the cycle when I start to pull the bolt is very difficult and the end part of the cycle when I am finishing up closing is very difficult.

>>33755340
it sounds like the problem is in the bolt itself rather than the fit of the bolt to the rifle. give the grooves on the bolt a good cleaning and see if that changes anything

>>33755445

I did a full take apart of the bolt and did some cleaning using wd-40

I also took the bolt body and put it back in the receiver to see if it was any of the components on the bolt body not fitting with what's on the trigger control group. it was quite smooth overall if you ignore the little bump the bolt has to go over.

I assume this means either my cocking piece is fucked or my grooves for rotating the bolt are fucked?

Is it worth it to get swag the barrels on my milsurp? i know what the bore diameter should be but everywhere i read about it says they can vary by up to .03"

I can just take any piece of lead thats about the size of the bore and hammer it through right?

>>33729934
>tfw want one
>all the ones I've found at gun shows were sporterized
>don't trust people enough to buy one from any place on the internet

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>>33757081
Rock Island Auctions is pretty good. They will fuck up their descriptions from time to time, but they won't get confused by an SMLE.

Keep an eye on their regional auctions, just have a scanned copy of your local LGS/FFL license to email them if you win - or send a printed copy with your check.

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>>33757081
oh and another thing

the middle SMLE >>33757334
started its life in my collection as a $75 sporter from a gunshow.

I rebuilt it from parts I primarily got from liberty tree collectors (another great site to buy guns from).

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>>33748581
Ayyyy 1941 Maltby Mk 1/2 here. What's the serial number prefix? Mines F.

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Took my No4 to a new 100m range fairly near by. First time I had shot it at that range, took few rounds to get the elevation adjusted for where I wanted to hold.

These were the last two groups of the day and the only ones that I measured, I was pretty pleased with it. I want to go back and see if I can get around 2" consistently, I'd be very happy with that; I think the rifle is capable of it from what I've seen at this range and other longer distances.

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>>33758211
The final group of the day.

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>>33758221
And this was tow 10 round groups + some sighting shots that I patched over. I wish I had measured the first of my 10 round groups because it looked about 2.5" and I would be damn pleased if that was a repeatable result. Unfortunately I was holding people up and my ruler was back at the bench so I had to just stick another target over it.

>>33758211
>using calipers to measure groups
>not understanding systematic and statistical errors
>thinking the 'extra precision' is at all useful
Wew lad. Use a fucking ruler.

>>33758237
>thinking the 'extra precision' is at all useful
Actually I just like fucking around with my new calipers, I probably wouldn't have even bothered taking pictures and posting this if it wasn't an excuse to measure something.

>>33748581
>dat low wall forestock
>dat grooved handguard
If only this had the Mk1 cocking piece it would have the trifecta of early war sexiness, nice though.

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I finally did it! I can make a rifle teepee. In This Moment I am Euphoric.

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>>33759858

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>>33759871
I'm really loving this rifle even if it's just a refurb.

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>about to win a mas 36 on gunbroker
>only 355 bucks
>wake up today and come to work
>check on bid an hour before the deadline
>mfw it's literally 700 dollars now

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>>33760011
Is it a pre-armistice one?

>>33760115
this is the gun:
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/639100933

marking is FG so 1951 maybe?

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>>33760161
Lolno. That one was made in 1951. That rifle was also post-war rebuilt. Has some nice early parts on it, but other than that it's a typical refurb.

Pre-armistace rifles are F (almost none exist of this series), G, H, J, K, and L. The last 3 weren't completed when the armistice was signed; they were all being made at the same time as one another. When production was restarted in late 1944 they started again with the K, finished it then went onto L. Note: they never completed the J series.

>>33760263

so probably not worth 700 dollars?

>>33760378
Nah, more like $+-300.

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>>33759886
Who wouldn't love a good Mas?

A heathen, that's who.

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How rare are Hanyang 88s, specifically ones made during Qing rule?

Got my M48 at the FFL apparently, sadly they don't open on Tuesdays. Sorta low-hanging fruit of milsurp, but I'm excited nonetheless.

>>33760981
theres usually at least 3 at every gunshow at $100/ea

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Bump limit.

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>>33761719
Aaaand image limit. Just to be a dick.