Search in your heart, you know it be true

But thats wrong, faggot.

>>33718130
Is the Mark 23 a good handgun? Looking to get one .

>>33718141
It's the most rigorously tested handgun in history so we know exactly how stupidly functional it is. The trade-offs are
>primary handgun
>primary
>handgun
>fuddy-five

>>33718141
I have one. It isn't practical. Its huge, holds 12 rounds of .45, and is very expensive. However, it is extremely accurate and extremely overbuilt. It won't wear out on you. Its up to you. If you have excess income, then sure. If it would be a gun you want to rely on as your main gun, I wouldn't.

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>>33718173
Here's my HKs. The Mark 23 and USP Expert are similar in terms of accuracy in my hands.

>>33718171
Isn't the Mk23 rated for .45 Super with no modifications, straight out of the factory?

>>33718258

I want a USP but I can't get over their proprietary rail. Why can't they make a V2 with a normal rail?

>>33718295
Yes.

>>33718295
Yes. +p af

how is the p30sk?

>>33718171
A 300 dollar 5906 will last longer than that plastic piece of shit

>>33718298
I doubt it. Its not a problem for me because I don't use the weapon lights, but I can see how it could be a problem for others. They do make adapters, but I'm not sure how they work or if they make it overly bulky.

>>33718330
Okay have fun with your 5906 I'm going to enjoy my HK

>>33718298
What your looking for is a P30
>>33718330
It literally won't.

>>33718141
It's good in the sense that it isn't an unreliable piece of shit.

It's shit because it's fucking huge and was purpose built for an application that is and was retarded all along. People just look at its testing and go OMG MOST BESTEST PISTOL IN DA WUUUUURLD!!111 despite the fact that every HK is rigourously tested and can still offer more than you can ask for in terms of dependability for real world use.

A more modern alternative would be an HK45 or USP45. Which are both absolutely proven models.

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>>33718320
Pretty fucking good. Shoots like a fullsize despite it being a compact.

>>33718298
Why can't you go fuck yourself

>>33718355
>*you're

>>33718355
Steel > plastic+pot metal

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>>33718298
>"I want an HK with a universal rail!"
>here's the P30 and the HK45!
>can have it in 9mm, .40 and .45!
>I WANT A USP

>>33718382
USP slides are made of ordnance grade (basically extra hard) carbon steel. The plastic has multiple steel supports in it, and is a mixture of glass and plastic that is actually stronger than aluminum framed guns.

>>33718382
You've never been around any HK or looked into them at all, have you? More likely you're just baiting.

>>33718666
I owned a usp 45 for a few months. I dont get the hype. If you want a 9 you should get a cz, a 45 get fnx. Usp and hk45 and p30 are all inferior to their cheaper competition. Its also well documented that usp frames crack and blow up under 45 super use.

>spiderman grips

>>33717755
LEM is shit wish you contrarian hipsters would let it die out already. The single action trigger blows the LEM the fuck out of the water, quit meming faggots

>>33718706
>under .45 super use
You... You realize .45 Super is a cartridge? And the blog post you read didn't mean "a super amount of use with .45ACP" when it said ".45 super use"?

>>33718355

I think the USP much easier to shoot. Probably because it's heavier.

>>33718359

Cause your mother beat me to it.

>>33718384

Yeah and? I can wish for anything, and honestly it's not like changing the rail would be reinventing the wheel. I don't like the P30 as much. So if a company isn't going to make the product I want why should I give them money? I'll go buy guns that I like and that have the features I want.

>>33719716
Then fucking do that.

>>33718706
>45 get an FNX
You want to know how I know you're fucking with us?

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>>33718298
So buy and adapter or but a file from the hardware store

>>33718295
So is the USP 45

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HK bread

>>33718706

>a 45 get fnx

You know, I've had people give me some really bad advice in the past, but this is the first time someone was being genuinely malicious in offering me shitty advice.

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>>33717755
Seems like you flipped the chart somehow

>>33718356
I've literally never seen a Mk. 23 malfunction.

>>33717755
may i ask, what is LEM?

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>>33722398
I see you're a gangster. I'm pretty gangster myself.

>>33722527
Shitty DAO trigger for LEO that revolverfags/oldfags love because "its consistent"

DA/SA with Safety+Decocker is the true USP master race.

>>33720930
It would seem evident that that was his intent from the beginning... Didnt realize that wishing weapons had certain features was such a thought crime.

>>33722561
That's the cleanest carpet ive ever seen on 4chan.

>>33722592
All DAO triggers are consistent by nature of being DAO and then only reason your bitching about it is because enough people like it so you want to be contrarian. Same shit with people bitching about the shield suddenly. And the Gun has 10 variants do the true GOAT configuration is gray guns SAO

>>33723651
how dare you, faggot

>>33722398
Nigger you tell me how you got those MP5s.

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>>33722561

I like the cut of your jib

>>33725067
how do ya like the ptr

>>33725067
That's a 32 right?

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>>33728163

I don't understand why people like LEM.

>>33728577
It's nice for a carry gun, you can thumb the hammer while holstering

Also the triggerpull itself isn't bad at all. I have a light LEM P2000 and it's basically an alright single action with a long-ass takeup