Semi-auto vs revolver

>spinny thing in the middle
>look like cowboy
>no clips needed

that's just scratching the tip of the iceberg too senpai

1. better for bear defense
2. generally more accurate
3. won't go out of battery if you shove it into something, so better for pocket carry

>>33710260
>Larger bullets
>More accurate
>Heavy ones usually don't have much recoil
That's about it

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Heavy is good, heavy is reliable.
If it doesn't work, you can always hit him with it

>>33710260
>FTE jams aren't a thing
>Accurate
>Can mount a scope
>A E S T H E T I C S
>Capable of handling seriously powerful rounds

>>33710260
>six bullets
>more than enough to kill anything that moves

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>>33710530
Ok now im sold

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Only practical advantage revolvers have are that they cannot get knocked out of battery. This however, does not mean you should cc one as your primary gun because that one benefit does not outweigh every other negative that is associated with wheelguns. This however, makes a J-Frame an excellent backup gun option.

https://youtu.be/j4BBr4wUSIg?t=253

http://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/revolvers-ideal-obsolete/

They're fun to shoot but don't trick yourself thinking a K-Frame is a better option than a quality 10-15rd 9mm handgun.

If wheel guns were more practical than pistols then police depts and federal agencies (and the military) would still be carrying them

but they don't

>>33710260
>fixed barrels, so generally more accurate
>can chamber more powerful cartridges
>no safety
>better triggers
>better grips
>can leave loaded without worrying about magazine springs, if that concerns you
>can fire from a pocket or at point-blank

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>>33710260
from a purely practical position, about the only points to make imo are:

-Some magnum cartridge loads (.357mag, .44mag etc) can produce greater velocity and/or ft/lbs of energy on target than many common semiauto cartridges.. to whatever end or for whatever applicable utility

-(kind of a niche point to make, but) if fired multiple times from within concealment (like inside a purse or pocket or something), imo, there is a lesser chance of a revolver malfunctioning due to physical obstruction of its moving parts.....MY OPINION OF COURSE
>ib4 some armchair badass craps on me for expressing an opinion
>better than semi
well from a 'shooting for fun' perspective
ive always found revolvers more enjoyable on the range

>>33710260
For service use? No real advantage to most Compact/Service size 9mm.
For Conceal Carry? Generally more powerful ammunition, .357 can use two different cartridges (.357 or .38 Spl), can be fired from pocket, rare need for malfunction clearing, good trigger pull.

But why ask when you can just... get both?

>>33711009
>better grips
subjective

>better triggers
depends entirely on the gun
cant tell if trolling

>>33711009
>Better triggers
>Double action

>>33711039
Revolvers also are generally inexpensive for a decent quality one as well. For the price of a decent quality autoloader, I usually can find a good .357 mag and .38 snubby for the same amount of money.

>>33711080
Revolvers don't have magazines in their grips, that inherently makes them better.

>>33711135
i think you and this anon >>33710270
should date

>>33710279
>1. better for bear defense

10MM

>>33710260
the insanely large calibers.

>>33711232
Depends what kind of bears are in your woods anon. If you are in AK, MT, WY, or ID you're probably better off with a .44 or larger.

>>33710695
those departments buy their shit based on budget
not even arguing wheelguns are more practical - they're not, you just have a retarded argument

>>33711505
Which is why they all shoot hi-points.

>>33711466
Doesn't Finland use Glock 20's for polar bears?

>>33711700
They should. Especially the military. I bet 50 people haven't been killed by m9s since they went into service. Unless you count suicides

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Berettafag asking a question.

>guy lists off like 10 things that broke or failed/jammed on revolvers

Is this fucking true? What the fuck are people bringing their grandpa's grandpa's revolver to class? Is this abnormal?

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>>33710260
revolvers are patrician

how else do I pocket carry no holster round in the chamber?

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>>33710270
>no clips needed
But they're an option if you want them.
And when you have them they're fun as fuck.
>>33710260
They're fun OP.
It's like shooting a surplus bolt action rifle.
It's old, inefficient, expensive, and it takes its toll on your body.
But holy fuck is it satisfying to shoot.
Oh, yeah, also this >>33710279
This >>33710480 and this >>33711078.
The last one is a surly valid argument.
I'd honestly never CC one but for an open carry gun where I REALLY need six rounds of FYS then a revolver it is.

But still, probably only as a backup to a semi auto pistol.

>>33710260
Other than le nagant 1885 is there a revolver that can be successfully suppressed with just some muzzle threads and a suppressor?

>>33711754
only when they want to commit suicide

You dont have to go looking for your brass. Just dump them into a pouch

>>33713273
Not as a first choice of course, but I thought I read somewhere that they switched their previous choice out for 10MM because the former choice was not enough firepower for the bears.

>>33710260
I dont really care which one is "better" because you can't carry in leafland. I just like revolvers.

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>>33710695
>but they don't
maybe your pleb cops who can't shoot for beans don't

>>33710279
>>33710283
>>33710480
Aren't Revolvers less accurate?
I always thought that they ended up being less accurate then handguns due to the cylinder gap letting some gas escape, which would result in lower velocity

>>33714720
Depends on the chambering, revolvers also tend to fire hotter rounds.

>>33714720
>Aren't Revolvers less accurate?

Revolvers have fixed barrels, dude

>>33710260
They are more fun - though that is subjective.

>>33714720

.357 magnum fires faster than pretty much 99% of all the semi calibers

But speed has very little to do with accuracy at handgun differences.

Hell, when it comes to .22lr rifles, subsonic ammo is preferred for accuracy, so I don't think speed has much to do with it. Don't quote me on the last part though, i read that in a match target rifle forum

>>33710270
you, sir, are a wordsmith.

when its time to pistol-whip someone, which do you want in your hand - a piece of tupperware, or a hunk of steel?

>>33715248

Found another similar comment indicating what I read.

"And as smallbore competitors know, subsonic .22 LRs are more accurate than supersonic .22s because they exhibit 37 percent less wind deflection due to the disproportional increase of air resistance near the sound barrier"

Bullshit? Or common knowledge?

>>33715271
I know it's for the most part psychological.

But I actually feel armed holding a heavy steel made revolver in .357

I feel safe. It's reliable. Pretty. Healthily powerful... Intelligent....

The semi auto wonder nines... they're hot and exotic, everyone wants one, but you always wonder if it will be there for you when you need it. You don't really feel like there's any substance or chemistry...

I don't think I'm talking about guns anymore...

>>33714720
They're less accurate because it's extremely difficult to machine the cylinder so that all six (or more) chambers line up with the barrel the exact same way.
An automatic only has one chamber, which is integral to the barrel, so that's one less point of failure for precision shooting.

Revolver pros:

1) Legal in pretty much all 50 states
2) Extremely reliable function even when left uncleaned for a long time (but not rusted)
3) Can chamber magnum cartridges that most semi-autos can't handle (with exceptions), making them better for carry in the woods or wilderness
4) Easy maintenance and take-down
5) Easier to place single shots with a single-action
6) More accurate, generally speaking
7) Less recoil due to increased weight
Cons:

1) Lower capacity
2) Lower rate of fire
3) Tougher trigger pull
4) Usually higher mass
5) No interchangeable barrels
6) Worse aftermarket
7) When mechanical failures do occur, they are quite a bit tougher to rectify in the field than with semi-autos

>>33717014
I'd disagree with cons 2 and 3 and downplay the importance of 5.
Because revolvers are cycled by mechanical action of the trigger, they'll fire as fast as you can pull it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzHG-ibZaKM
and while revolvers generally have heavier DA pulls than automatics, the pull is normally qualitatively smoother and therefore just as, if not more, manageable than a typical service auto's.
Revolver barrels are interchangeable, but on most it's armorer work and there's very little reason to ever do so. On Dan Wessons and other revolvers with user-swappable barrels, it's nice being able to change barrel lengths when you want, but most people get around this by just buying more than one gun.

>>33713409
The odds of Finland's prior choice being a .44mag or larger revolver are vanishingly small due to magnum revolvers not really being popular in Europe, at which point the 10mm is in fact a step up.

>>33716216
>it's extremely difficult to machine the cylinder so that all six (or more) chambers line up with the barrel the exact same way.
Not sure, modern machines have an insane precision, a particle of dust in the barrel would have more impact on the accuracy.

>>33717014
>5) Easier to place single shots with a single-action
You do realize that the majority of semi auto pistols made are either SAO or DA/SA and thus have a SA trigger pull available, right? Sriker semi's are a relatively new thing in a field that's ~115 years old.
>6) More accurate, generally speaking
Not really. Mechanical accuracy between a high-end target revolver and a high-end target semi are pretty much identical, close enough to be within the manufacturing differences across 10 samples of each within a specific model. They DO tend to have a sight radius advantage for any given barrel length due to differences in how barrel length is measured (autopistols measured off breech face, revolvers measured from back of forcing cone), which may or may not impact a mediocre shooter's ability to shoot it well.
>7) Less recoil due to increased weight
But more muzzle flip due to usually tripled bore axis and nearly-vertical grip angle. Which is the determining factor in follow-up shot speed, not felt recoil.

>>33711232
Will always be outclassed by .357mag when comparing equal grades of ammo (IE the Buffalo Bore/Underwood bearfucker 10mm will be weaker than the Buffalo Bore/Underwood bearfucker .357), and that's the SMALLEST of the readily-available magnum revolver rounds.

>>33710260
Loading and unloading doesn't hurt the gun or the ammo.

No safety's to fumble with, just pull the trigger to make bad guy dead.

Don't have to chase brass up another guys ass.

>>33715276
True but hardly common knowledge.

Just like every other hobby ever, the vast majority of gun owners are fucking idiots.

>>33717014
>Legal in pretty much all 50 states
Convinced me to get a Revolver for my first CC. I'll have to move whenever I finish university and I could end up in some pretty draconian states.

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>>33718037
>that's the SMALLEST of the readily-available magnum revolver rounds
.17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire

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>>33710530
i prefer 8 bullits

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Fuckin' gorgeous

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>less recoil!
>hotter rounds

Pick one, faggots.
Revolvers have hotter rounds, vertical grip-angles, MUCH higher bore axis and no passive recoil mitigation from a slide sliding and recoil springs.

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>>33710260
All design is compromise, there is no best choice, your thread is invalid, great bait though.

>>33718307
The Wiley clapp in .357 is the absolute tits.

>>33710260

>implying there is a "better"

>implying each doesn't have an intended role and which is "better" depends on what you want to use it for

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revolvers are love, revolvers are life

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>>33710260
better the spinny

>>33711838
>grandpa's grandpa's revolver to class
If it aint broke dont fix it yer granddiddy used it and it was fine.

>>33711838
Most revolvers are super old designs that just don't stand up to heavy use like modern service pistols are designed to.
I bet if those guys took the class again with better-designed, more modern revolvers like Manurhins and Korths that they'd have far fewer problems.

>>33711078
Centerfire ammo works better in short barrels. A revolver with a barrel at or under 2" is not going to outperform a subcompact semi-auto, mostly because the semi can have a longer barrel in a shorter frame because there is no cylinder. The semi-autos are also designed to mitigate recoil better, which is important on a 12 ounce pistol. The diverse loadings bridge the gap somewhat, but most rounds will not expand well out of a snub revolver. That is not an issue for most semi-autos until you get to non +p 9mm loads. If you're primarily concerned with concealment the smaller easily concealed pistol with a higher capacity, less recoil, and more effective ammunition has almost every advantage over a revolver. When you're concealing something with a 4" barrel to compacts with 3.5" barrels the comparison is much closer and .357 will easily win, minus the fact that the compact has 13 or so rounds.

>>33718210
>readily available
>revolver rounds
Good reading comprehension there champ

>>33720464
Is .17 HMR not readily available?
It's clearly a revolver round, so that can't be your objection.

>>33710592
To the extent 15 rounds are needed in a self defense situation, would that situation be on in which anyone would leave alive? Most encounters end before 15 rounds are shot across all parties.

>>33721858
No, it's not readily available.

And just because one company chambered one limited production revolver in it does not make it a revolver round.

>>33717014
dan wesson would like to talk to you about con 5

Ive carried a wheel gun as my personal carry since 91.

>>33723383
Full-size or fun-size?
OWB or IWB?
How much extra ammo do you carry?

There's not a single gun sexier than the Colt Single Action Army, and I wouldn't ever carry one or rely on it

>>33710432
Fuck off with your dysfunctional weaponry, Boris