AFRICAN THREAD

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>>33708591
>Rhodiefags need not apply
Okay

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Rhodesia was pretty interesting, what do you /k/ommandos know about it?

>>33708698
>>33708880
nevermind just talk about fucking rhodesia
completely ignore the rest of the continent, rhodesia's the one place we should talk about

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>>33708909
The first reply isn't Rhodesia you stupid fuck

>>33708909
Okay
WOAH guys isn't it weird that they wear dresses and shoot holding guns sideways?!?!
IS THAT A LIFE JACKET

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Did the US ever get involved in Africa pre modadishu?

I met a guy at work that told me he was in Angola in the 70's or early 80's I can't remember which?

>Pic not related

>Am I the only one wonder why her gun has cylinders and a magazine?

>>33709063
We probably did some black ops/deniable ops kind of stuff in Angola to fight the Cubans and MPLA commies

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>>33708909
The first reply is of a Portuguese soldier dipshit.

>>33709063
There were a lot of Vietnam vets that hopped over to Africa to fight the bushwars and the CIA did back UNITA but that was about it. In regards aid the US did give a fuck ton of aid to post-genocide Rwanda, for some reason the Clinton administration and the rest of the planet fet guilty, which helped them expand their military capability. Pic related.

RHODESIA SHALL RISE AGAIN, BROTHER

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>>33709116

More like this please, this gave me a war boner a mile long

can anyone recommend some good books about African conflicts?

>>33709063
We were involved with Tripoli very early in our history. Although, Im sure you mean Sub-Sahara

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>>33709063
Lots of korean war and vietnam vets went to South Africa/Rhodesia/Angola/Bush war/etc for gun for hire work

>>33709326
Anything by Timothy J. Stapleton, he has a multi volume work on the military history of Africa. It's dense but very informative.
"Battle on the Lomba, 1987" David Mannall
"The SADF in the Border War: 1966-1989" Leupold Schultz
Whatever you find on Portugese Mozambique. Danny Roxo was a fucking madman. Jan Brethanbach who commanded the 32 Battalion also wrote some good stuff.

>>33709482

thanks anon

bumping for interest pls dump any pics and stories about Afri/k/a please

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>>33709567

>>33709589
post moar

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>>33711471

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French in Mali

>>33708591
Anybody got anything about Sierra Leone and EO?

>>33708909
you realize they would be far less prominent had you not told them not to post

>>33709482
>Timothy J. Stapleton
Met this guy once, very cool dude with an awesome beard. His work is very good but don't go into it with /pol/ preconceptions of Africa and the Africans

>>33712294
My capstone advisor is a good friend of Stapleton, he gave me a reading list complied by him when he heard I was interested in africa. I've got volume three Stapleton's Military History of Africa and read Warfare and Tracking in Africa.

I need to find that list so I can upload it.

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>>33711471
Bumping with more Exuctive Outcomes.

>>33712924
Stapleton is a good guy, IIRC from when I talked with him he worked at a couple of South African universities just as apartheid was ending. I never asked, but he probably has some interesting anecdotes

>>33709063
i had a family member who was sf from early 80s to late 90s telling me about wiping out entire villages in africa and then when it came out a entire village full of bad guys was destroyed it was blamed on rival tribes.
they definitely were involved

>>33713129
edit to this, not sure why i said late 90s. i meant around the mid 00s.

>>33712962

>Executive Outcomes

I feel like I've heard that mentioned before, any back story to share?

>>33709063
Tomcats shot Libyan's Mig-23s in the 80s

>>33713314
Blackwater

>>33709326
I've been reading Dancing in the Glory of Monsters. It's very interesting.

>>33708591
What is that thing? I need it so bad.

>>33714070
Home made revolver shotgun. I thought it was a Jezail at first.

>>33709091

We've seen that pic a hundred time before. The weapon is a colonial-era revolver shotgun with a false magazine attached underneath. In theory it could actually be a box containing a few extra shells but it has no meaningful part of the mechanism.

>>33709326

Fiction or non-fiction?

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>>33713314
>>33713501
More to it than that.

In 1993, the looming end of apartheid marked a radical restructuring of the SADF. Mandela demanded some of the SF units to be disbanded, one of the units earmarked would be the 32 Battalion.

The 32 has an interesting history. The unit was founded in 1972 by Col. Jan Breytanbach with the intent of creating a mixed race light infantry unit to fight in Namibia and Angola. Many of it's members were "military refugees" of the FNLA escaping from Mozambique after the MPLA took power. The phrase "no apartheid in a foxhole" comes to mind. Originally the unit was known as Bravo Group and consisted of two infantry companies, a mortar platoon, and a machine gun platoon. By their disbandment it consisted of seven infantry companies, a recce wing, and a weapons company. They were known to their enemies as "Os Terriveis," or the terrible ones, because they murdered the fuck out of everything in Angola and Namibia.

Leading up to disbandment and after, some of the guys stuck around and were transferred to different units, but many of them said screw it and joined up with Executive Outcomes. Their ranks were bolstered by all sorts of other disillusioned SADF vets looking to make money off of the skills they learned fighting against the communists and the pay was pretty good. They wanted nothing to do with the new government and they still got to see some action, which for guys that had been fighting in the bush for years it would just be another day at work.

EO found itself fighting UNITA in Angola, which is Ironic because a few years prior the 32 was assisting them, protecting Angolan interests and helping the Ranger Oil company retrieve some lost equipment in Soyo. UNITA was defeated and sued for peace, but due to UN and US pressure on Angola they dropped their EO contract which was replaced by a UN peace keeping force. Soon after the conflict started again.

cont.

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>>33708591
>Rhodiefags need not apply, there's other threads for that.

you a nigger lover boy?

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>>33715768
In 1995, EO took a contract from the government of Sierra Leone to retake the diamond fields and crush the RUF, which had a stranglehold on the capital, Freetown. The RUF's main ggrievanceswere against what they saw as a ruling elite in Freetown that did nothing to help the people of Sierra Leone. So what did they do? Torch villages, rape the women, sell the girls, force the men to fight or mine for diamonds, and hop the boys up on speed and send them out to fight.

EO quickly squashed the rebels and forced them into settled negotiations. Again, the government of Sierra Leone crumbled to international pressure and EO was replaced by a UN force. The RUF then sacked Freetown during operation "No Living Thing." EO 2, UN 0.

EO had many other contracts protecting corporate intrests across Africa, including De Beers and Chevron. They were also subcontracted out by Sandline International during a rebellion on Papua New Guinea. EO was formally dissolved in 1998 after the passing of South Africa's "Regulation of Foreign Military Assistance act." Which intended to crack down of the numerous PMCs that operated from South Africa.

But, in 2012 there was a rumor going around that the band was getting back together. Sterling Corporate Services was formed with the help of Eric Prince and the CIA to operate in Somalia on behalf of the Abdirahman Mohamud Faroole, the leader of Puntland which is considered autonomous in northeast Somolia. Essentially the former member of EO were training men and fighting.

>>33708698
Pretty sure that was Portugese

>>33709063
USA's first intervention in Africa, as in the continent of Africa, not Sub-Saharan Africa, was 1801 during the first Barbary War.

>>33709063
>Liberia

>>33709326
I haven't read it but one of my professors wrote a book called "Robust Peacekeeping". It's about how the UN needs to be more proactive in their peacekeeping missions. The guy who wrote it is Kofi Nsia-Pipra. He was a Ghanan paratrooper who fought in Sierra Leone and later worked with the UN during the Rwandan genocide.

>>33716661
>the UN needs to be more proactive in their peacekeeping missions.
Yea, that'll never happen. But I'll have to pick up a copy sometime and read it. From the summary it sounds great. The problem is that the peacekeepers sent out usually don't give two fucks about the place they are sent and are often afraid to get dirty.

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>>33715880
Barlow's STTEP with some old guys have been in Nigeria "advising" and training troops against boko haram as well.