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/meg/ - Military Enlistment General

big boy straw edition

>Discord
https://discord.gg/0y3eBT2ji4rHI4TM
>IRC Channel
>implying anyone uses IRC
#MEG on Freenode
If you're on mobile look up AndroIRC for the app. Any questions, ask in the thread to get you set up.

Resources:

>Armyranger.com
For Ranger info, obviously.

>http://www.sealswcc.com/
SEAL/SWCC site with videos and fitness plans and a forum

>Shadowspear.com
All around SOF website. Great info and run by former/active members of every SOF unit. Mentor program. Also has forums for international SOF.

>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.

>http://www.corpsman.com
For Navy Corpsman info.

>http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?115180-MARSOC-Force-Recon
This is an all-inclusive thread for MARSOC/Force Recon stuff. Good site for Marines info too.

>http://www.uscg.org
For Coast Guard info. Good site, lots of vets able to answer questions.

>www.defencejobs.gov.au/
For info on the Australian Defense Force, and how you can shitpost on the world stage.

>https://www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS as well

>Don't Eat The Sandwich

Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Rx0nDuga

Which branch are you enlisting/enlisted/considering?
http://strawpoll.me/4671253
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>>33693210
same question as from last thread: anyone here familiar with 94e? would also like to know job prospects once out of the military.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy41a_RtzNo
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>always dreamt of joining the military
>childhood awkwardness develops into social anxiety
>social anxiety develops into depression
>too fucked up mentally to be leadership material and too far in debt from college to go enlisted
>mfw
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>>33693210
This picture caused my suicide
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>>33693665
i'm gonna let you in on a secret. the military is the premier home for social rejects, emotional cripples, and the mentally ill. if you're worried about being "weird" because you have social anxiety and browse 4chan, wait until you see the porno drives that get passed around on deployment. the military isn't going to fix you or magically cure your SA when you get out, but it will provide you a place with strict, regimented hierarchical structure that is easy to navigate for even the biggest sperglords. you can even excel in the army having SA, you just have to be good at your job and not a shitbag. just don't expect it to "make you a man" or anything like that. when you get out, you will ultimately be the same person you were when you went in, but likely even more fucked up.
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>>33693420
Good vid.
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what career should I choose to stay in combat the longest
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>>33693842
Wtf do you mean?
Like which branch has the longest deployments?
I know infantry for either Army or Marines can sometimes volunteer to stay longer when their deployment comes to an end. You get a fat bonus and continue making tax free money.
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>>33693854
>I know infantry for either Army or Marines can sometimes volunteer to stay longer when their deployment comes to an end.
was infantry, cannot confirm that this does happen or has ever happened. never even heard of this before.
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>>33693888
My bad looks like the Army recently quit doing this.
Hope this link works
https://www.armytimes.com/story/military/benefits/2016/02/26/army-stops-benefits-extending-overseas-tours/80978010/
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I'm going to USAFA. What should I expect?
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>>33693931
You're going to touch a lot of dicks
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is 3 months enough time to go from couch potato to scoring high on the APFT? I'm quite worried that'll I perform like shit on that initial PT test at basic.
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>>33694068
I second this question. I'm a fat ass. ;_;
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>>33694068
maybe not scoring high, but you can be well enough prepared for basic. basic's actual fitness requirements are rather low -- most people who are in shape when they go into basic end up going out in worse shape than they were, simply because of the high-stress, low-rest nature of the program. it's designed to test more your mental fortitude than it is your level of fitness. the theory is that physical fitness can be acquired but mental fitness is intrinsic. your PT scores at basic don't really matter for shit as long as you're passing. when you actually get assigned to your unit is when people will be taking a more vested interest in how well (or poorly) you perform.
>>33694084
get fucked. lose weight you disgusting sack of shit.
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>>33694068
3 months is a good amount of time to get in shape.
But if you really don't do any kind of exercise right now and haven't for the past couple years, take it slow on pushups and running.
If you just start running your ass off from the get go you'll most likely get shin splints. And same with the pushups, there's a similar overuse injury you can get in your collar bones.
Firsthand experience unfortunately.

The Couch to 5k program is approximately 3 months btw.
So I'd give that a go.
There's a C25K app.
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>>33694098
>>33694104
thanks lads, I'm not in great shape but I'd say I'm in mediocre shape. I can run 2 miles in about 18 minutes. I can do about 40 push-ups and 80 sit-ups in two minutes. I'm able to perform 6 pull ups in a row before I feel like dying. From these results, would I be alright by the time I ship out in August? Currently trying to run 4 times a week, and I just started last week.
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>>33694128
worry more about rucking. if there's one thing you should be 100% prepared for, it's a forced march under 100 pounds of gear plus weapon. you have most likely never done anything like it before, so it would really, really behoove you to experience it for the first time on your own terms.
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>>33694133
Yeah I'll definitely practice rucking, though how frequently should I do it? Once or twice a week?
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>>33694147
i dunno, that's on you. push yourself.
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>>33694128
Just keep running and doing your calisthenics.
The other guy mentions rucking, which you should prepare for but is not on the PFT.
Squat and deadlift will help with rucking.
Plus it's just always good to have strong legs and back.
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>>33694171
>The other guy mentions rucking, which you should prepare for but is not on the PFT.
yes, because rucking is the single skill which is most pragmatic and useful in the military. you can be a weak as shit skinny cumrag who can barely pass the PFT in terms of upper body strength but as long as you can ruck you're going to be okay. also, in any combat arms unit you are going to be rucking a lot. if you're unlucky enough to be 82nd you'll be doing 24+ milers regularly, regular mechanized and light fucks can expect to be doing 12 mile timed marches even more frequently. while these aren't on the PFT, you're going to be seriously unhappy if you're fucking up on them in garrison, and even more seriously unhappy if you don't manage to get it under control before you deploy.
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>>33694168
I'll ruck tomorrow morning to see where I'm at then.
>>33694171
Will do, I've been doing weighted squats and I'll definitely incorporate in deadlifts.

Thanks for the advice anons.
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>Enlistment
Man, I didn't waste 6 years of my life in college only to enlist.

I got selected for Air Force OTS with a CSO slot. Still need to get a flight physical done before I get a class date, but I'll probably go to Maxwell next summer. If any of you have questions about OTS I'll answer as best as I can.
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Coast Guard ME3 bored on duty here if anyone wants to know about the glorious world of budget cuts.
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>>33693210
when i was 15 i accidentally called 911 and said there was a bomb in my school. i thought the phone was broken and was just doing pretend(its a long story) i got a pre arrest diversion program thing because they believed me but i somehow dont think theyd take me in. i heard you can get waivers but i feel like if i mention that i said there was a bomb in my school i think theyd drop me. do u think the muhreens will take me?
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>>33694515
we don't want morons like you in anyway

do what most terrorists do and get a job as a politician
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>>33694528
i dont understand, isnt everyone in the military retarded anyways?
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Thought I'd ask this here as well: >>33694726

Has anyone used a DD-149 to fix the medals on their DD-214? I'm thinking about doing it, but I don't want them to fuck it up more.
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>>33694543
They are "retarded" and not actually retarded.
Learn the difference.
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>>33693210
>just wanted to take a break from brendaniel's reading of Sonichu
>see op's pic
That fucking straw is following me
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>>33694515
>when i was 15 i accidentally called 911 and said there was a bomb in my school
Just work in construction for the rest of your life. Or, join the french foreign legion.
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>>33694515
How the fuck do you manage that?

Between the dial tone, the thing fucking ringing when you dialed 911, and the goddamn operator asking for your emergency, you'd think at some point you'd realize it's not disconnected.

You should probably get a job at a high speed place like Taco Bell.
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>>33694515
Currently you'll have a hard time getting waivers for anything that would be considered major. When i was in the army recruitment office the other day someone got rejected because they were involved in a crime involving a car that caused more than 500 dollars worth of damage and that disqualified them. Things might change but currently they are closed for anything but minor crimes. Terrorist threats would probably look pretty bad.

Also you don't "accidentally" call 911 to make a bomb threat. You don't have to lie on an anonymous image board, just admit that you're a fucking moron for doing it instead of pretending you didn't do it intentionally. Sounds like the marines is the right branch for you if they'll take you.
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Are the chair force reserves good? How fit should I be before basic?
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I ship for BCT next week but I think I hurt my foot yesterday, how fucked am I?
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>>33693888
I know a staff sergeant that was deployed in Afghan for 2 back to back deployments. He was there for 14months straight.
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>>33696556
How hurt are we talking about? Did you stub your toe or do you have a possible fracture? If it's just minor damage the swelling will die down in a couple of days and you're fine.
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>>33693931
Basic training is literally a 7 week workout camp with some marching and knowledge. Add in a few briefings each day where you have to keep yourself awake.

You'll also spend 2 weeks out in the "field" in Jacks Valley. Prepare to get sick. Tent city is fucking nasty and dust is everywhere.

Then you graduate basic and still have to spend 7 months as kind of a half-basic, with a bunch of extra rules, but you get used to it.

There will probably be one or two suicides in your class.
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What are good scores on the pst to get a diver contract? I'm in DEP for ma but I want to try and get diver
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>>33696771
You're in DEP but you don't have a diver contract? What contract do you have?
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>>33696782
You pick a rate at meps, and in DEP you can switch to special warfare if you pass the pst
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>>33696828
Do you have it in writing that you'll be a diver? What happens if you don't pass the test? What contract do you have? This all sounds weird.
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What would be considered the best and worst MOS, Rate and AFSC?
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>>33696636
I'm not sure. Its on the outer part of the middle of my left foot. Only hurts when I walk on it. No swelling or anything. Pain started when I ran a mile yesterday
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Anyone have any experience with special operations air force like TACP or similar?

Thinking of joining AF but don't want to be a standard paper pusher.
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army: i don't finish my bachelors until the beginning of may. if i sign at MEPS next week for DEP til the summer, will I still be signing for E-4?
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>>33697687
I'm in a similar situation. Currently in DEP scheduled to ship at the end of may. I get my associates degree a few weeks before my ship date. So long as I bring my recruiter my official transcripts after I get my degree, he can add them to my file and I'll ship with E3.

Hope that helps
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>>33693694
>>33694779
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>>33697293

TACP is mostly just infantry+ unless you get certified to do stuff with Rangers and SEALs. CCT is full on SOF, along with SOWT and PJ. I'm trying to get in as a CCT, but I'm going to take another couple of months to get into shape. Also unlike Rangers/SEALs this is SOF for smart people, and it isn't enough to just be physically skilled.
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>>33697687


same anon >>33697874

I forgot to mention that while my file will be updated, my contract at MEPS has me down as an E1 currently.
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>>33697885
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfAvFYKVEZ4

You haven't been to hell and back unless you've seen this video. The CWC rabbit hole just keeps going and going.
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>>33697904
I'm in college for networking hardware so brain power isn't really a problem. Physical fitness, although fair, needs a bit of work.
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>>33697942

The number one advice that everyone gives is "don't quit". If you quit you can never come back. If your physical skills are merely insufficient but you don't quit then you can come back, and often they'll just wash you back to a prior week of training so that those skills develop. Just don't quit.
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in the FAQ it says
>at MEPS there will be many doctors, whom you will lie to

What kind of shit are we talking about here? Why the focus so much on lying? How on keep the lie despite all evidence? What kind of lies are going down here?
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>>33697979
I didn't really have to lie since there is nothing much wrong with me but they might DQ you and you won't be able to join right away. people usually lie about medical shit ". They don't have access to your medical records so there is no eveidenxe
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>>33698019
>They don't have access to your medical records so there is no eveidenxe
what if later on they need to clear you for higher level stuff?
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>>33698047
You get a cake.
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>>33697979
It's just making sure you don't act like a total retard and disqualify yourself for no good reason.

When they tell you to disclose your medical history and you say that yeah, i had warts after going to camp or frostbite after hockey practice when you were in middle school that could disqualify you for combat arms even though it's not a current or persistent problem. They want to know things that could be a problem in the future and if you go ahead and tell them about trivial shit from your childhood you could get disqualified because it could raise some flags for conditions that would be a problem in the future. They want to make sure they don't take on any liabilities.

So the less problems you have to tell them about the better for both you and them. So if you banged your head riding a sled when you were 6 and your mom took you to the emergency room then you should just say "no" to being to the emergency room unless you had a concussion or brain damage from it.
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>>33693210
So I've ran out of options. I've always thought about joining the military but it seems like it's time. I want to join the a Army as an 11b. Is it hard to get in like it was when Obama is president or is it a relatively easy process now?
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>>33693210
Ok so im 18 living in spain right now, should i join the army here or go to America and enlist over there, also if i join the army here would i be able to enlist in the us?
Would i benefit from joining private military contractors?
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what if i was diagnosed with something as a kid and have no clue? do i just play dumb? i don't have access to my health records personally and have no real way of getting them either it seems.

>>33698157
this is some good advice, i went to the ER a few years ago for what ended up as a nothingburger, that's the type of shit i keep mum on?
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>>33698163
They have a lot harder restrictions now than they had in the past. But as long as you meet the physical standards, don't have a criminal record and no history of drug use then you're good. They currently don't accept any previous drug use even if it was years ago.
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>>33698163

The process has always been the same, you just might have to wait longer to get a spot than you would for some other job. I enlisted in the DEP for marine infantry in january and the earliest opening was right now in april. (Not going until next month though so I can attend a wedding first.) I've heard of people having to wait up to a year though so go talk to a recruiter now.
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>>33698187
Yeah, if it's not a fracture, surgery that leaves scars or some other condition that could affect you then you just say no, you never had any health problems.
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>>33694420
shipping to coast guard basic soon any tips for success.
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>>33698192
Fuck really? I got arrested for misdemeanor marijuana possession when I was 17. The charges were dropped but I know the military still sees it as a conviction. I guess I'll have to wait until wartime then.
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>>33698256
You can ask about a waiver for that if it's just a misdemeanor. But at MEPS they told me they used to accept marijuana in the past as long is was 7 years ago but currently all marijuana use is a disqualifier. But i've heard people who went to other MEPS saying differently.They could have been bullshitting us just to scare us. So ask a recruiter to be sure.
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Any input from all branches of the U.S. military would be welcomed.

Say you're from a place deeeep in Appalachia and you have one hell of a dialect. I've heard that you'll be given a lot of grief because of how you speak. Any truth behind this?

>T.Cousin was Army reservist and said it was pretty bad.
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>>33698287
That's what I'll have to do. Thanks for the advice.
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>>33698287
would this not be a situation in which you would lie and lie and lie?
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>>33698311
My family is from Delaware. My brother is in the AF and he said that a lot of his superiors would give him shit for talking like a stereotypical dumb southerner, but that's not how we talk at all around here
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>>33698329
>mfw my community is straight from a Hank Williams Jr. song.

But there is some people around here that I can't even understand. Any way to correct it?
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>>33698351
I'm not really sure, just try to talk slower. If you have a habit of mumbling just try to make sure that you're pronouncing your words clearly. Overall though there's always going to be somebody who won't understand you, there's only so much you can do
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>>33698351
Watch movies, and play videogames, and say things in the characters' voices.

Listen to people who speak english properly, and emulate them. Try to match the cadence, not necessarily the speed.
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>>33693665
The military will help pay your debt and you can also defer your student loan payments while on active duty.
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>>33698382
I'm hoping to go Navy, I know there are some people from the Philippines that can be difficult to understand so at least I won't be alone.
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>>33694068
A secret for you. Maxing your score on the APFT doesn't do much for you unless you want to go to a specific school (example- rangers, sf, sapper). You get no added benefit from maxing your score.
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>>33698325
This is where you don't lie. They can find a criminal record and will know you lied to them.
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>>33698405
Just don't sweat it man. Like you've said yourself you're not going to be the only person there with an accent.
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No bullshit, If I follow foreign whores (pictured: russian) on my personal Instagram account do I need to mention this for a security clearance? (Foreign Contacts)
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>>33698504
Only if you've had personal contact with them I think
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>>33698325
You could lie if there's no record. In my situation i have had a puff of week 2 times, in 2007 and 2010. I decided to round that down to 0 since there's no record of it and it would be absurd to DQ myself for something that minor. If you've been arrested for it it'll show up on your record and then you should just fess up and admit you fucked up.
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>>33698514
What if I like a few photos?

I know I should probably delete my social media presence but what's the point, NSA already saves everyone's data.

(pictured: danish)

I follow a lot of foreign whores!
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>>33698540
Do you know all of their full names, ages, addresses, family, etc? If not you're fine
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>>33698540
They only care about people who know you and might have sensitive information about you. These sluts don't even know you exist so you're good.
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Anyone here joining up to the RE or has joined, if so got any advice?
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>>33698558
Nice, thanks you guys! Just a random funny scenario I thought of in the shower.

(pictured: brazilian)
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>>33698504
>>33698540
wait this is a thing? I have tons of foreign friends from living, traveling and working abroad. and working a bunch of broads

also what's the scoop on the Navy? I've never unironically considered them before but they gave me a call and i got very interested.
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have you guys heard anything about people removing tattoos before enlisting?
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>>33696139
>air force
>fitness
Lol you'll be just fine just watching anime all day and going on a short jog once every week or two.
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>>33698666
>>air force
>>fitness
How much of this is a meme? I will say my uncle somehow got fat in the airforce it truly did get my noggin joggin
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>>33698699

Statistically the Army is the land of the fatties.
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>>33698699
My dad, uncle and grandfather were all Air force so I'm not just memeing straight out of my shit-pussy.
My dad said he was in worse shape after basic.
He was the pace setter when they went on runs (idk if that's still a thing this was in the 80s) and everyone would bitch too him that he was running too fast... when they were only running 1 mile.
Most air force jobs don't depend on physical fitness. So their PT reflects this.
However, their high speed guys like SOWT, PJ, and CCT are physical beasts.
Unless you're going to be SOF in the AF, not much will be expected of you as far as PT goes.
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>>33698184
you can't just show up in America and enlist. You need to go through a lengthy process and already be a permanent resident

Maybe try the FFL if you're in europe?
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>>33698666
I actually looked up the standards a while after posting that. I'm a fucking fatty yet I could pass it with little effort.
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>>33698184
>should i join the army here or go to America and enlist over there

The only way you could do join the US armed forces is if you have a permanent resident card. You can't just fly to the US and enlist on a tourist visa or some shit.
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>>33698184
Enlist here, take your skills over to America once you're done.
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>>33698827
so did i. I just looked up the PAST for tacp and my almonds have been activated trying to comprehend if it's real or not. I could pass that shit right now and that's just through working a shitty manual labor job. What the hell

>>33698184
you have the tercios too why not?
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Shouting out again to all you guys going in: 'Member to be stuffing away cash for the future so you don't end up the homeless retard vet on the streets.

The military offered TSP is better than nothing, but it's not as good as what you can manage yourself with modern tech being so user friendly. Open up an account at USAA or NavyFed and immediately open up a Roth IRA and a standard investment account for yourself. Max out the yearly IRA contributions of $5500 and then sock away all the leftover cash into the investment account in long term funds that don't need day-to-day micro management. Set everything to auto reinvest dividends. It's real easy to do this shit in the military (at least as a single guy without crazy outstanding bills) and still have fun money left over.
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>>33698865
thank you dr. shekelgordenstein, seems like good advice.
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>>33698865
Great advice I hope people take it to heart.
And if you niggers need a vehicle DON'T BUY NEW.
Find a vehicle like 5-8 years old on craigslist and pay off the loan ASAP.
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>>33698989
If a guy is leaving station and he owns a beater, it's a great way to get a car for cheap. I got my first truck in the military for $500 that way. It was kind of a piece of shit, but it got me to work.
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>>33693210
I'm a 20 year old with a shit job and no ambitions in life with my only interests being vidya, anime and guns.

What branch is easiest to get into and will allow me to be worth something. I'm a leaf btw, pls no bully.
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>>33696139
Also how is it gonna work out when I am going to college this fall? I am planning on going to the recruiter's office late May and I'm assuming all summer will be spent at San Antonio but what about specialization training for my MOS? Would that just happen on another break from class?
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>>33699100
The military is not particularly hard to get into (minus SOF stuff) but it does require you to man the fuck up and stop being the guy who looks for the easiest option.

Take some initiative and go to the branch websites and find some job fields that interest you. Then go talk to a recruiter.

If you want to be worth something, don't act pitiful on a Malaysian fingerpainting board. The military can help you become disciplined and take charge of your life, but only if you get the ball rolling.
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>>33697904
i'd also like to know more about TACP. So i can't enlist with tacp as my chosen MOS, i'm confused on this aspect. I would like to do combat airman
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>>33698827
>>33698852
whats your mile and half time?
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>>33698569
>that ass

Worth going to war over.
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>>33699860
11 and that's at being sedentary. i think the PAST was 10:47
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>>33698827
The only thing that's really harder about the Army is the run, which is a 2 mile run at 7 min pace instead of a 1.5 mile run at 8.3 min pace.

The Navy's PT test is practically the same as the AF's, except they have a whole extra minute to do approx ~20% more push ups/sit ups.
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>>33698666
Is that so in every major airforce?
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>>33693210
Could Chris enlist? Maybe not anymore, but fresh out of high school? He's high-functioning and has tard strength, so he's not too different from most marine recruits.
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>>33694228
Rucking only matters if you're going to a line unit or going for a combat MOS. POGs only do 4 mile 35lb rucks. I shit you not. They do a yearly 12 miler with - you guessed it - 35lb. And the standard is 4hrs. 1hr more than the infantry standard, and lighter.

Rucking does build your legs and core to make you a faster runner in my opinion. So do some quick rucks. Aim for under 15min/mile and don't go balls to the walls right off the bat or you'll fucking injure yourself. I did a progression program I made up on my own based on my abilities so by the time I went to OSUT I was strolling through the rucks with a lot less issue than the homebodies.

Push ups and sit ups are fine for initial entry, the run is not terrible either. But If you want to be faster do fast shit. Long distance does nothing for speed.
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>>33700034
Actually quick question for military people: How common is it to see people like Chris or Forrest Gump in the military? How does this work? Has it changed in recent years?
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>>33694192
82nd infantry here and I can say that I have never done a 24+ mile ruck nor have I ever heard of such a thing, but I imagine it happens rarely as opposed to regularly. Everything else is spot on
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>>33700048
I'm in an 80+ ASVAB limited field, so I rarely interact with tards.
Plenty of socially retarded people though, you could argue I'm one of them.
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>>33700048
>Chris or Forest Gump in the military

We talking retards or functioning retards with exceptional physical ability? You'll see a lot of both in every job except the 107+ GT score fields in the Army. You'll even have some in leadership positions who will be very self-conscious about how retarded they really are and they'll go out of their way to prove just how capable they are and fuck shit up in the process. The only thing worse than a retard is an incompetent one. This is coming from an 11B with a 125 GT score so take this as you will.
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>>33700124
The dudes who insist on doing things "harder not smarter" are fucking cancer. They promote unsafe/inefficient exercise techniques, stupid tactical choices, and often buy into Fuddlore and pass it along to sound smart.
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>>33698746
How is that true when they have the second highest physical standards?
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I had shoulder surgery in highschool from a dislocation at a wrestling meet. Im only joining with an 11x option 40 contract. As far as I know they went into my shoulder and repaired cartilage then put a plastic pin in? Would this DQ me, it isnt a current problem and happened a year and a half ago.
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Is it better to just walk into the Marines recruiting center or should I fill out my information on their Contact a Recruiter webpage and hope to get a call?
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>>33700166

You can google it m8. Just because it doesn't jive with what you think must be the case doesn't mean that it isn't the case. It simply means that your assumptions were mistaken.
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>>33700166
You can be considered obese just because you work out. A buddy of mine is 5'11 and 214lb and he gets weighed and taped every time even though he scores a 280+ on the APFT and he's in excellent shape. He's a wrestler, and has won several trophies for my company, but he's been in and out of the body comp program several times simply because of his dimensions. The standards and practice of the weight and tape system are dog shit and need to be changed.
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Been posting in here a bit but I thought I'd offer some words of wisdom to anyone out there who wants to join the Army.

Enlisted with an 18X contract and now I'm an 11B. I was lucky. A lot of dudes (hundreds) have been involuntarily reclassed to everything from cooks to parachute riggers to cav scouts. Imagine being a cunt hair away from the Q course and getting told to report to fucking culinary school or whatever for the remainder of your bonus-less 5 year enlistment.

Don't do the 18X route unless you think you'll literally in the top 1% physically and mentally of your infantry peers at OSUT and beyond because those of us who weren't didn't fucking make it. They purposely go after 18X dudes with a vengeance and most quit within the first days and weeks of student company.

I'm open to questions but obviously I can't give out too many specifics.
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>>33700533
Going 18x is dumb as hell anyways considering you can drop a packet for SF.
Go infantry, learn land nav, get in better shape, drop the packet.
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>>33700533
Are you able to try again if you fail instead of quitting? I didn't enlist as 18x, I would like to attempt SFAS later on in my career.
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>>33700644
Spot on. We thought we were ready. We were wrong.

>>33700673
Yeah you can always go back, even if you quit - depending on the circumstances. They'll give you a return date based upon the circumstances of the reason for being removed from the course. I've seen everywhere from 3 months to 2 years. A few have gotten NTR'd for being complete fucking idiots or integrity violations. The biggest thing people need to understand is that SF dudes and cadre are humans like the rest of us. Pretty normal people that have a job to do, they just preform on a much higher level than most.
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>>33700673
You can reapply after a certain period of time once you're in a new MOS. You can't be denied a packet for an undermanned Critical Skills MOS if you meet the requirements and are not currently in an undermanned CS job.

The danger being that if you get into a job with long hours of bullshit, you may not have the spare time to dedicate to getting in top shape. Your unit is required to let you drop a packet, there is no requirement for them to give you spare time to get your PT and rucking up.
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>>33700192
As a rule, if they'd shoot a horse for it, you've got no chance in the military.
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>>33700533
>>33700644
>>33700714
>>33700719
I assume the MOS to enlist as if you want to go SF is 11x op 40 then?
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>>33700192
Can you even get option 40 with medical waivers if they approve it? Only one way to find out I guess.
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>>33700787
Depends. I have buddies of mine who were 18X who later went to RASP and made it. Some want to go back to selection, others want to stay in batt. It all comes down to what you want to do. If you're in shape and ready for a hell of a challenge, I'd always recommend op 40 because they don't reclass you if you don't get selected at RASP your first go. However you'll be doing a lot of gay ass ranger shit at airborne school and after that during pre-ranger but it's worth it in the end to be in a high speed ranger unit doing good shit for your country.

On the flip-side of that, you can get injured at any of these SOF selections and you need to weigh that risk on your aspirations. Regular 11B dudes have it rough too, but not on the same level as batt guys. Also, you may have more free time to get in really good shape at a regular line unit and you have the possibility of being stationed in Alaska, Bragg, or Italy. Bragg is cancer AIDS.
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>>33700211
Neither. Look up your local RSS phone number, call them and set up an appointment to come in.
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>PRT in 2 weeks
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>>33698540
Looks like a stuck up bitch.
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I was an idiot and lost my social security card. Can I use my DD-214 instead when I am applying for a job or verifying secondary identification?
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>>33700787
Not really. Can be any.
If you think becoming a ranger is any easier than SF, you'll be in for a painful surprise.
Rangers might not need to learn a second language or be as "smart" as SF, but the physical aspect of RASP is arguably more physically demanding than SFAS, if not on par. And then once you're in the 75th, it doesn't get any easier.
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>>33701025
I didn't have my SS card when I enlisted. Went to the SS office with my recruiter and requested a new card. They gave the recruiter some sort of printout which was good enough for MEPS while I waited the week for my card to come in the mail.
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>>33701072
I've already gone through, so I don't have that option unfortunately. I tried googling it, but it doesn't say if I can use my 214 to get a job. I assume it would work- employers don't even need a soc card- I just don't know for sure if it would work.
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I've spent the past 2 years building a packet for direct enlistment into Army CID and I have no back up plan. I abolustely hate my job and really don't want to wait for OCS boards and shit. I'll get a yes/no within 30 days. Wish me luck guys.
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>>33698699
The fatties are always on some kind of medical waiver that doesn't allow them to an exercise that's part of the fitness test.

Same shit goes on in the other branches, but the Air Force seems to be one of the more lenient on that.
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>>33701270

You could've just enlisted as anything else and spent the last two years drawing a paycheck and applying to CID from within the military.
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>>33698311
There's plenty of people in the military with crazy southern accents so he'll be fine. A bitchy DI might make fun of him but basic is over before you know it.

In my experience rednecks are always welcome because they usually can fix peoples cars or do some other blue-collar shit that city kids never knew about
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>>33701382
No, it took me almost the entire time to get to MEPS and get cleared. I had eye surgery and there were other issues.
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>>33701270
I know the feel bro. My future basically relied on me getting accepted but I got in after a couple of months of medical waiver bullshit and I'm shipping in 4 weeks. You're gonna make it too.
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>>33701471
Accepted to? Same program?
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>>33695347
>>33695530

The phone was broken in half and there were parts falling out of it. I couldn't hear anything on the other line, all I had was the bottom part.
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>>33701529
And I didn't get a felony for it, and I didn't even get what you would call a misdemeanor. It was a civil citation pre arrest diversion program, and it got wiped off my record once i was done with 20 hours of community service. i know you have to bring up everything, though.
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>>33700773
>>33700842
Honestly could I just lie and say it's acne lol, these are the scars from surgery
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>>33700192
Option 40 is Ranger.

With a history of shoulder injury, the Army wouldn't accept you, less make you anything physically demanding.
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>>33701033
Buddy just finished RASP, can confirm will decimate your ass.
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>>33701664
Take it from me, an acne pro, those don't look like acne scars.

Also the fact that you skin is all clear, and then there's just two suspiciously placed scars.
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>>33701664
Well not gonna lie I'm pretty disappointed, I'm only going in if I can get an 11x option 40 so this sucks ass. There is no way to sneak it past MEPs?
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>>33701741
I mean, you can try and think of a reasonable lie that isn't acne. Those are clearly scars, so think up a reason why you'd have scars on your shoulder that won't DQ you.
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>>33701741
>get x-ray some time down the road
>they see a large metal object in your shoulder
>gg
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>>33701776
>>33701720
>>33701684
>>33700773

So let me get this straight, I could literally come up with any reason that I have certain scars on my body that isn't surgery and be fine? Why dosent everyone do this?
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>>33701800
They are plastic pins my dude
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>>33701805
Say you were shanked by a cholo in a bar
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>>33701805
because if you get caught u gon die
>>33701819
they can almost certainly still be seen with x ray
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>>33701612
>>33701529
Pls someone answer me I know I'm retarded but I swear to god I thought the phone was broken it was fucking in half how was I supposed to know it worked? there were fucking power wires hanging out of it.
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>>33701819
If you have any implants like that you can't lie about that shit. It would be absolutely retarded because it's a huge liability to not only you but your whole unit. Just admit you have them and see what they are willing to give you and then decide if it's something you want.

Maybe you need more realistic expectations of what you can do in the army. You could still be in combat arms maybe.
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>>33701805
They don't DQ you for fun. Those types of injuries can lead to you get fucked up in the future. You might be fine with that, but you're also putting other rangers at risk.
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>>33701843
Can't give you a good reply here but the scare talk they gave us they told us that juvinile and sealed records would still pop up on the background search. Don't know if that's actually true or not though. But they will do an FBI and local background check on you so it could show up.

I would say you should call a recruitment office out of town and ask them if they are open for something that minor before you talk to a local recruiter. If they're open then you can apply without having to take the risk of being caught.
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>>33701805
Say your pet iguana bit you mine did and it looks like your scares
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what's it like being part of a transport company in the army? kinda interested.
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>>33702492
That nigga need some water
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>>33702492
You could do shit like drive fuel trucks or delivering mail. If you want to drive trucks you definitely get to drive trucks. One of my friends was 88M and he was basically a mailman in Afghanistan, he just drove between bases and dropped off letters. If that's your thing then go for it.
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How do I meet fellow nerd-types in the military?
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>>33702729

Join intel.
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>>33701805
if your shoulder gets messed up at any training or otherwise and they do an X-ray and find out you lied you'll be
FUCKED
U
C
K
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>>33702661
huh, tactical mailman sounds bretty comfy actually. got anymore insight on it?
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>>33702911
Do you want IED's? Because that's how you get IED's
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>>33702729
You'll meet them don't worry. Video games and magic the gathering all you want.
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>>33702956
realistically speaking, what are the chances of your mail truck getting hit by those?
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>>33703036
Can't quote any actual statistics, but I remember hearing back during the surge that truck drivers were up there with infantry for highest casualty rates
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>>33703209
damn thats pretty bad, i'm still considering going transportation though.
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>>33702911
Don't know much details about it other than the guy spent a whole deployment delivering mail to FOBs in Afghanistan. seemed pretty safe for his routes. He just trucked around, never came close to any danger. Chatting with people as he dropped the mail off.

Seems boring as fuck and I wouldn't want to do it but if you enjoy that sort of thing it's not a bad job I guess.
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How feasible is the green to gold program? My father tells me it'll be hard as balls because according to him I'll barely have any time to do classes while active duty.
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>>33698540
Is that whore your cousin that you've personally visited and hanged out with? Or is it just some random whore?
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>>33693338
please guys.
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>>33704747
The military doesn't need any more weebs.
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What's the first two weeks of AF BMT like?
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>>33704789
The first week they give out mangas and body pillows and a subscription to a cuckold themed porn site.
The second week you learn how to kiss men and how to barely scrape by on PFTs
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>>33704625
They send you off to school and that's your only responsibility. you won't do any army shit during.
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>>33700861
How hard is it to go from regular Infantry to Ranger Regiment? I'm a nasty girl so I can't get Option 40 if I want to go AD and I don't think I'm prepared for an 18X contract. Was wondering if I could go AD as 11b and then try to transfer to the 75th in a few years.
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>>33705079
I've got the same question as this guy except I'll be shipping out to basic as a 68W in a month, active duty.
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>>33698249
Take it one meal at a time, do what you're told, and don't stress about not being able to make impossible tasks on time. Learn to zone out while holding uncomfortable positions or doing menial bullshit. And try not to pop a boner at some of the incredibly hot CCs
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>>33695530
Can confirm , brother is a recruiter

Guy got Life DQ'ed with prior active army and reserves both with honorable discharges when he tried to join the National guard and forgot to mention an unpaid parking ticket.

Also if you bite your nails ( I did ) Stop and let them grow . They will point that out at MEPS and get you DQ'd on possible anxiety disorders.
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Not to sound like a pussy or anything but:

Were you guys nervous/Is it normal to be nervous when you applied? Realizing that if everything goes right you're locked in for 4 years?
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>>33705476
Yes and yes. It's normal to be nervous because it's quite the commitment.
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say I wanted to become an explosive technician, would it be possible to get some training through the military help me qualify for jobs in and outside the military that deal with such things?
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>>33698311
Nothing compared to some of the eastern europeans that somehow end up in the us navy, holy fugg :DDD
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>>33698351
Yes. Get made fun of. A lot. We had a guy on the boat with a speech impediment. 4 years of giving him shit about it and it improved markedly.
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>>33698569
... And now I've got something to think about in the shower as well
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Hey /meg/, what are your favorite war movies about your specific branch.
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>>33704780
does it need people who can fix radios?
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>be autismo
>just really want to leave this place
>contemplating joining the army

It's probably better than being a wagecuck.
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>>33706363
you are /meg/ personified. welcome, brother.
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>>33696139
Basic will shape you up enough while youre there, the graduation requirements are
12 min mile and a half
44 pushups
46 situps
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Want to talk to a recruiter.

Should I call the recruiter and schedule a talk with them, or am I good to just walk in to the office?
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>>33705098
You'll be working in a gynecology clinic kiddo. Don't even bother
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>>33707007
You should definitely walk in, they'll want a look at you to make sure you're not fat and be able to get your ID right away. When i was at the recruiter they said they hated when people called because they can't get a good evaluation of a person they can't see. They'll want to look at your ID and stuff too so it's much better to be there in person.

Fair warning though, they'll always be a bit suspicious of walk-ins because the vast majority of them don't qualify, so if they look at you funny the first time you come in that's perfectly normal. I was a walk-in and my recruiter had a look on his face like "who the hell is this clown?" when i knocked the door but a couple of days later after i filled out some papers and did my EST he warmed up a lot because he realized i was actually qualified. I got another comment from another recruiter when i went down to MEPS about me being a walk-in, he said "oh, so you're one of the good ones". They don't get a lot of those.

So just go in, they'll have you fill out some info sheet, check your ID and stuff and then they'll schedule you to come back for your EST a couple of days later.
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>>33707127
Not that anon but I was under the impression recruiters hated walk-ins.
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>>33707154
Yes, they do. But they have people who call and ask if they can join even more.
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>>33707163
hate*

If you walk in and ask they could see obvious things that would disqualify you and save them a lot of time. Usually during a phone call they'll have to waste a few minutes talking before the person tells them some stupid shit that means they obviously can't join.
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>>33707163
>>33707154
i walked in on my recruiter. immediately through in to the other room to take a practice-ASVAB. did very well so i never got the impression that he wasn't happy
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>>33707163
I called my recruiter and he was stoked to get me into the office as soon as possible.
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>>33707338
You must live in a small town where recruitment is slow
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>>33707007
Call and schedule an appointment like a responsible adult. You don't want to be that retard that walks in while they are talking to someone else, doing PT, taking someone to MEPS etc.

Not sure what these other anons are talking about. Sure you don't want to try and enlist over the phone, but please call first.
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I think in the last thread or two I saw something about being a K9 handler. That sounds pretty dope, training war pups.

There was something about pmc's needed people trained for that and it was big bucks later on. If not, DEA would be fine with me, drugs have ruined a bit of my family so I'd be peachy helping stop it.

I'm thinking getting into the AF soon and was looking for possibilities. I was wondering if anyone else or that same guy had more insight into it.
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>>33693665
in my country you can study at the military.
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>>33693931
Going to USMA in July
Gonna be a good time m8
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>>33707398
Salt lake City isn't that small.
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>>33693338
I'd steer clear of "Repairer" jobs. Try for a 35 series, lots of contractor jobs available there. Comsec is fine, but not your best bet.
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>>33705893
If you live in the southeast, take a demo course I think out in TX then join the EOD reserve unit down in GA.
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>>33706257
>implying anyone but the marines get movies
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>>33700099
You definitely are.
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i would like to join USAF as combat airman, preferably TACP as i knew a guy who did it but then fucking dropped out because he was a (((conscientious objector))) aka fag. Do i outright say i want that job, or do I have primary mos and qualify for that later?
Besides that, what are some jobs to avoid in the USAF and what are some that you have enjoyed or know are good? Thank you
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>>33707923

You can go in as a TACP. If you have facility with languages the AF has good language jobs.
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>>33704789
There have to be at least 100 articles written about it, but these are the things that stuck out in my mind:

>First night you're up for like 40 hrs straight
>You wear civilian clothes for like a week until you get your first issue
>Everyone will suck at marching and there will be lots of yelling
>Lots of standing around in line, silent, waiting for check-ups, etc.

>>33704850
Very funny and original!
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>>33707979
>You can go in as a TACP
Nice, thanks.

>AF has good language jobs
What's a good example of one? I have looked into Cryptolinguistics, it led me to some cringey reddit thread (i know i know) about Navy guyrs talking about their rates

>>33708002
>>First night you're up for like 40 hrs straight
>>You wear civilian clothes for like a week until you get your first issue
>>Everyone will suck at marching and there will be lots of yelling
>>Lots of standing around in line, silent, waiting for check-ups, etc.
doesn't sound so bad.
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>>33708011

1N3X or 1A8X2, they're both crypto-linguists but the 1A8s are airborne, which in the AF means that they are aircrew.
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>>33708011
>doesn't sound so bad.
Looking back, it really wasn't, but I think at the time I was honestly more upset because I was that 18 year old leaving home for the first time.
Wasn't 100% sold at the time, but really didn't have a better option. At BMT I thought I had made a mistake, but things have worked out fine these past few years.

>>33707923
Don't be security forces.
2A/MX kinda sucks right now, so shoot for 1N/3D/3E/4 series jobs.
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>>33708063
>At BMT I thought I had made a mistake
how so? I am personally much stronger mentally than i was at 18, and i understand the mental aspect can hurt more than running and not sleeping well especially for those just leaving home.

>>33708063
>Don't be security forces.
Security as in some sort of MP? TACP doesn't count as that, does it?

>>33708032
>1N3X or 1A8X2, they're both crypto-linguists but the 1A8s are airborne, which in the AF means that they are aircrew.
>mfw i realize 1A8 sounds really neat but needs top secret clearance
I'm unironically worried i probably have fucked up at some point in my life.
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>>33708113

Everyone has fucked up at some point. The investigators aren't omniscient though.
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>>33707802
>saving private Ryan
>platoon
>apocalypse now
>we were soldiers
>hacksaw ridge
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>>33708113
>how so?
A lot of it was the normal homesickness that many experience when they leave for the first time... couple that with outside contact cut off, a hostile environment, and that feeling of "oh shit did I really just sign up for 4 years of this".

Security Forces is the name for AF MPs. TACP is combat arms, totally different.
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Would the military be able to drudge up my medical records and see that I used to be on a mild Prozac?
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>>33708163
>Would the military be able to drudge up my medical records and see that I used to be on a mild Prozac?
I have this same issue. I was prescribed once some shit but never even took it. I think you're fine dude, just don't bring it up.
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>>33708160
>couple that with outside contact cut off, a hostile environment, and that feeling of "oh shit did I really just sign up for 4 years of this".
Yeah I can imagine that. What made you finally change your tune and say 'yea this was a good idea'.


>Security Forces is the name for AF MPs. TACP is combat arms, totally different.
Understood. Dad was MP way back in the day. Is LE now. Doesn't sound fun to me.
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>>33706257
2010 Moby Dick
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>>33698865
So do I open that roth ira account through my navy Fed account¿ I have no idea about investing but I want to get into it
Anything else I can do as far as investing goes
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>>33708160
Not the same guy, but how hard is it to get through TACP? I'd try out for it but I think I'd rather do intel.. I'm not sure. When I talked to a recruiter I mentioned that I like lifting and he really tried to sell it to me.
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>>33707038
>Don't even bother
What do you mean? I've already signed the contract so it's too late for me.
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What if you have a mental disability like regular anxiety
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>>33708505
You mean "shy cuck pussy disorder"?
Man up and learn to operate under stress.
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Is it true that if have to get a medical wavier you can't get airborne or ranger with your contract
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>>33708505
they have no way of knowing
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>>33708551
I believe so, but you can still go to those schools after you're in
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>>33708551
Yep, at least for me at Houston MEPS they couldn't offer me an option 4 or 40 because i had a waiver for a surgery. Sucks to be fucked over for a surgery i had when i was 6 but that's life.
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>>33708468
so i've been doing research all day on this shit.
apparently, TACP is almost always critically undermanned or some shit. It's standards aren't too crazy, but, there is a decent washout rate (at least 50%).
I did just read that some guy washed out and wasn't allowed to reclass / retrain into a different MOS, which has me extremely scared to even try because it would suck extreme dicks to wash out and be boned totally. How on that?
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>>33708860

Dude. Just get into good shape before you even ship to basic and take tech school seriously.
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>>33708882
>Dude. Just get into good shape before you even ship to basic and take tech school seriously.
i hear alot about rucking. i am pretty good at rucking. it's been my job for years with a roughly 45lb pack and heavy boots marching up to 10 or more miles a day (and most of it is mental and pacekeeping as you experienced guys will know). my concern might be the bodyweight stuff ie. pullups, dips shit.
But that's still besides the point: in a washout situation, it sure would suck bigly to get discharged like that without chance for something else that you qualify for.
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>>33708964

Typically the attitude toward a washout is punitive in nature.
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>>33708984
>punitive in nature.
Understood. Even for those that have a high rate? That's interesting. Not trying to justify being a failure, or somehow trying to rationalize being a failure, but one should also have a backup plan.
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>>33709056

I asked if I would be allowed to become a cryptolinguist if I rocked the DLAB but failed out of the CCT pipeline. I was met with a derisive "why does someone who think they already wasted the military's time and money think that they deserve to use another good opportunity". Yes, this is a stupid mentality, but it seems to be the prevailing one.
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>>33708163
NO

Source: I'm in the army with a secret clearance and took ADD/depression medicine for 10 years and never mentioned it at any point and time.

There's not a GIANT DATABASE that ALL MEDICAL RECORDS file into. That's not how that shit works.
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>>33708551
Probably, makes sense. It will most likely depend on the surgery. I had my appendix taken out when I was younger and it wasn't an issue getting an option 40. I would just lie and not mention it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>33709056
If you're trying for a hard job and you don't make it, people understand. If you quit, they understand less. But it's really just about how each person is going to treat you, as opposed to making sweeping generalizations.
>I was an 18x who didn't make it through summer hold before going to Pre Selection because injury
>got reclassed
>few people care
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>>33709125

Washouts are a proven poor investment. It just makes sense not to give them more important slots.
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>90 ASVAB score 128 GT SCORE
>11B option 40
>Changed to 18X contract when SF recruiter came during OSUT
>Go to Airbone School
>Go to Bragg for SOPC/SFAS/Q Course
>Get there at beginning of summer, no more selection classes
>Get hurt during a smoke session
>Cadre convinced me to Voluntarily Withdraw as opposed to go to medical platoon
>Everyone who quit got reclassed out of infantry
>Call HRC and get reclassed to 92Y(Supply)
>92Y AIT as an MOS-T(reclass)
>Super chill time
>Get stationed at a Special Forces Line Company as a supply guy

Life is great

ASK ME ANYTHING
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>>33709285
You're very wrong in this statement.

>EOD comes by to recruit from SEALS washouts
>Civil Affairs and Psy Ops recruits from SF washouts
>Rangers come and recruit from the washouts from SF who are waiting to out process

I've seen all of this first hand
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>>33709227
>I would just lie and not mention it.
Not him, but I've got obvious scars from my own appendix removal. What's the point in lying?
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>>33709378
I think that appendix surgery is a medical proceedure that you don't need a waver for. I didn't need one when I enlisted August of 2015.

Most medical issues really don't need to be brought up if they happened in the past and don't effect you now IN MY OPINION.

Major Surgeries (kidney removal) shit like that, will fuck up a lot of job possibilities.

When I was first enlisting I would call other recruiters, make up a fake name and ask if XX thing would disqualify me/need a waver so I knew what I needed to be honest about and what I needed to have an answer for
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>>33693854
>tax free money
K E K

That means they're having you do millions of dollars worth of work basically for free.
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>>33709125
>I asked if I would be allowed to become a cryptolinguist if I rocked the DLAB but failed out of the CCT pipeline
fuck, that was exactly my way of thinking
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Passed my medical today.

One step closer.
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>>33708181
>What made you finally change your tune and say 'yea this was a good idea'.

Probably about a month or two after being at my first base, where I no longer felt like a trainee eating shit all day.
My supervisor is a normal person, I'm actually doing stuff that I wanted to, way less restrictions on me in my free time, and just overall being treated somewhat like a professional.
The pay is pretty poor compared to my outside equivalent, so I probably won't re-enlist, but I couldn't have gotten to the point where I'm worth those jobs unless I had enlisted.
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>>33710025
Gratz. What MOS are you aiming for?
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>>33710025
so you passed your medical, what's the next step in your master plan? (but srsly what's next)
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>>33710511
Not him but after the medical you can either enlist the same day or go back later to enlist when you pick your job and swear in.
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>>33693210
ive gotta ask about the sandwich
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>>33711628
>being this new
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>>33711724

>yfw that comic is 10 years old
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I'm a bit confused on something, can you crosstrain into CCT at the two year mark, or do you have to wait until the third year mark if you don't go in on a CCT contract? I'm reading contradictory things.
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How often do enlisted chicks take up camming or stripping as a sideline?
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How wierd is it being cut off from 4chan, the internet, and the world for 9 weeks, then coming back to it?
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>>33713047
not terrible
>oh there's a spicy new meme everyone's referring too
>catch up on the 9 weeks of anime you missed
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>>33713012
It's a bit of a risky endeavor.

You definitely can't even imply that you're in the military, and you just hope that no one that you work with or anyone in your command finds out about it.
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>>33713533

Seems like camming, maybe in disguise, would be fairly common then.
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>>33713606
I mean probably no more than the general 20-something woman population.

In my experience, military chicks aren't necessarily sluts, it's just the 5:1 male/female ratio makes it quite easy for them to find a partner.
It would be like if you were at a school for nursing or interior design... you'd be interacting with all females all day.
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How easy is it to get laid on base? Civilian or otherwise
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do I need to dress well for MEPS the morning I ship out, or does it not matter at that point?
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>>33713672
lol
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>>33713672

If you're fucking, then you're probably fucking. If you're not fucking, then you're probably not fucking.
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>>33709290
Are you planning on trying again to get into SF?
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>>33709290
Did you have to make a list of 10 jobs you wanted before you went off to do ASVAB?
My AF recruiter told me this tuesday after I did my practice test.
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>>33713716

doesnt matter, dress for comfort. Just don't wear anything ridiculosu
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>>33713716
Start wearing camo to let everyone else around you know that you are ready for the cause.

Be all HOOAH and stuff when it comes to talking about the military.

REMEMBER! This is the first step you are taking on the path to becoming one of America's greatest heroes.

TALK NOTHING BUT OF THE MILITARY.

Bonus points if you have had other family members serve, talk about how it makes you part of their service, people love that shit.

Secondly, put this on to assert your dominance, that way no one fucks with you.
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>>33713989
The army doesn't do that.
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>>33714127
Yea I found it a little strange myself, but I do just only have a GED so perhaps my circumstances are a little different?

That aside, does anyone know if an appendectomy is DQ-able? I have a tiny scar a bout 3 stitches long on my belly button, you probably wouldn't notice it unless you really looked, and past the hair..
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I can tell you right off the bat that if you VW from SFAS/SFQC, you're not going to be going to RASP.

If you otherwise don't make the cut for SFAS/SFQC, you're not going to RASP until you have a proven track history somewhere else that indicates you're worth the slot.

If you're peer out of anything, you're not going to RASP.

There are ~3,500 slots in the 75th. Literally nobody is being actively recruited, let alone washouts. People are fighting tooth and nail just for the chance to go to RASP.

I'm pretty sure watching Surviving the Cut doesn't entail first hand experience.
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>>33714746
Directed at you
>>33709312
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>>33714035
Are you trying to kill this proud anon?
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>>33713951
If I decide to stay in the army I'm going to go back to selection.
>>33713989
Nah, I had a good idea of what I wanted to do though.
>>33714746
You're incorrect. When I was in AIT for the 2nd time, the Ranger recruiter was coming by to talk to my group of MOS-T's biweekly. Out of 10 of us, 2 took contracts. One got hurt and one made it to regiment.

I will agree with you that MOST of the people who quit because it's "too hard" will not make it at RASP. However each persons case for voluntarily withdrawing is different.

This is just what is experienced so far in the Army as an 11B->18X->92Y
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Take it with a grain of salt, I don't care.
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>>33714963

They were at your AIT because they needed supply specialists, not because they heard that's where all the awesome 18X failures were hanging out.
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>>33715070
When we were in the "duty platoon" waiting to come down on orders for a new MOS at Bragg, the ranger recruiters would come by and say "Hey when you get your new MOS orders, come hit us up and we'll give you option 40's if you want to come to RASP afterwards."

Also

The recruiter came to talk to the 10 of us who were 18X who got reclassed MORE often and apart from the rest of class.

Im not sure why it's so hard for you to think that other special operations units don't pick off the scraps of each other. Good guys get hurt. Good guys quit. Good guys get peered. Shit happens. If they pick up 100 quitters, there's bound to be a couple good guys who got a raw deal, who will make it through.
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>>33707654
Thanks. Looking into 35T.
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>>33715332
I don't think we're currently looking for any more autists
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>>33715348
I see shit like this and have a hard time believing that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqi34ZTCEeM
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>>33693210
What does /k/ think about 19K mos?
I never seen them get much love
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>>33714532
Nah it's just the air force, you don't get to pick your job in the air force. You'll swear in and in 4 weeks or something they'll tell you what your job is and when you'll ship out. In the army you get to pick your MOS. So it's nothing strange about it, you're getting the same treatment as everyone else who enlist in the air force.

And appendectomy is probably just fine, you're gonna be standing naked in front of the doctor and he'll see if you have any scars. They look for that stuff. I have 2 scars on my pelvic region from a surgery i had when i was 6 and they waivered that before i went down to MEPS. No problem. Better to apply for the waiver before than having to deal with it at MEPS.

They'll basically just need the name of the doctor, what the surgery was for, date and name of the hospital. Took me less than a week to get my waiver approved.
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I'm in DEP right now for the Navy, I think I might drop out because I got a girlfriend
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>>33716346
DON'T DO IT YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER.

Do you care about your future or getting your dick wet? Jesus, if you're in a serious relationship you could marry her instead and get all the benefits of being married in the armed forces. If you don't want to marry her then you don't really care about her that much and you're throwing away your future for some slut you don't even care for.
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>>33716346
you are not the first nor the last person to decide to give up their future for a girl right now. i just wouldn't expect to see her in the future and you'll be back at square one with lost time.
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IM ABOUT TO TALK TO AN ROTC RECRUITER

Anything I should look out for? Or ask? I am really prepared by /meg/ standards but I want this guy to like me so he can fight for me.

Should I bring a dozen donuts to the detachment?
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>>33716346
Lol retard. You'll regret that once you guys break up.
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>>33716346
>she loves me so much she wants me to give up on a major life decision for her
if she loves you, she will support your decision to join the Navy.
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>>33716051
I don't remember exactly when I had that surgery and by whom, It was like 12 years ago.. Idk how to go about getting that exact information either lol
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>>33717517
12 years ago is no time at all. They'll still have your medical records. Just file a request for your records and give them to your recruiter.
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>Want to do cool guy shit
>If I get a cool guy job I'm locked out of all of the other categories of cool guy shit
>Would have to jump through some fucking elaborate hoops to do it all

My autistic desire to be James Bond will never be satisfied will it?
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>>33717684
Intelligence MOS option 40, later try out for SOF?
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Joining the muhreens and i lied about never being involed with the law. I got a ticket for gridlock (being stuck in the middle of a busy intersection) which is a parking ticket. Thats the only thing im worried about cus i leave may 13th for boot camp
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>>33717756
You're a moron. That shit will show up when they do a background search on you. Lie about shit they can't prove, not actual crimes.

Enjoy your life DQ.
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>>33717731

It's tempting, but if a field is critically manned and I know intel always is, then they don't like releasing you from it.
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>>33717756
>Ticket for a traffic infraction
>Commonly given as a plea deal for just about anything
You're fine, anon, nobody is going to care.
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>>33717756

You didn't lie. You just forgot. It was a literal parking ticket that you forgot about and didn't think anything of. You don't recall anything unless they explicitly bring it up, then you ask a few questions until they say something that jogs your memory. Then you say that you honestly forgot about it because it was just a traffic ticket.

A lot of municipalities don't report all traffic tickets to databases even though they should because if their numbers are too high then they get flagged as a speed trap so depending on where it was you may never hear about it.
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>>33715577
Going this Tuesday to BCT on a 19K contract. Will come back and let you know how it is
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>>33717874
>It was a literal parking ticket
it was a fucking parking ticket. i don't even think that's a misdemeanor. Do you really think the US Marine Corps cares about fucking speeding tickets? They want to know if you're a crackheaded wifebeater dumb enough to get caught and charged trying to flee punishment, not if you got a parking ticket when you were 16.
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>>33718389

It's not that they care about the parking ticket, it's that they might care that he lied. If he "forgot" then he didn't lie and they don't care about the ticket then he's good. If they ask about it and he admits to lying then nothing becomes something.
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>>33718428
Exactly. I have a juvy record for weed. When I got my clearance I admitted it. I asked if it was going to be a problem, the lady said "no that's not disqualifying, but if you lied about it and we found out then that would disqualify you"

I know everyone on here says to lie about everything, but you need to pick your battles and be 100% certain that your lie wont be found out. Or you'll risk fucking yourself over for something that might not be disqualifying or easy to waiver.
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>>33717684

Getting a "cool guy" job doesn't lock you out of going elsewhere. It's just that getting good at shit takes TIME, which is what all the action hero books/movies leave out. It takes years of training and doing shit to become competent at it, and longer than that to become world-class.

A 4 year enlistment seems like an eternity when you're a wide-eyed teenager, which is why are lot of them are like "yeah, I'm going to go be a pilot for like three years then transfer to special forces and finish my career as an astronaut".

How that actually ends up working out is it takes 5-6 years in one place before you're good at it, then you try to hop specialties and find out you're pretty much incompetent compared to the younger guys that have been doing it for a couple years.

Fiction would have you think that people are awed by experienced dudes coming over from other specialties, when in reality they have to prove themselves all over again because people will just assume they're garbage at their new job.

>>33717853

You can generally go to SOF units from anywhere, regardless of manning. Special units and packet positions pretty much override standard "manning" concerns if you're actually qualified.
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>>33718598
Will they accepct the "i forgot about that parking ticket" that will work? Im pretty sure i told my recruiter, he shrugged it off. I got a new recruiter and i havent told him. Its such a small thing but the fact that it wasnt mentioned is what scares me. I decided not to say at meps cause its a matter of being homeless or not but now future me is here and am worried about it
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>>33716346
>Joined the navy
Pretty dumb
>Dropping out for some bitch that will leave you in 6 months
RETARDED
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>>33718759
Why is joining the Navy dumb?
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>>33718776
Cause they're called seamen
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>>33718660
Man that is just such a non issue I think you'll be fine. I don't even think those need waivers do they?
But "I forgot" should be fine if they ever do bring it up.
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>>33718856
I just asked my recruiter he said not to worry about it because nothing showed up in the BR investigation so im not tripping. Just wanted some insight because i didnt want to be dq'd. Thanks for the insight
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>>33719052
Yeah I also have a parking ticket that didn't show up either.
Take care. glad you got your peace of mind.
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