5.56

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>>33677186
Its just an overglorified .22 lr, right guys!? Right?!

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>>33677186
>only if headshot
>otherwise you need 3+ shots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr7dpEDNNC4

>>33677186
What's the backstory on this mate?

>>33677205
this isn't Call of Duty, retard.

>>33677220
http://www.gunrightsmedia.com/showthread.php?415927-Stopping-power-weak-5-56-(explicit-pictures)

>>33677241
Zoinks

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>>33677205
>Doesn't have bones or fat tissue

Fuggin' ell m8 this is the smoking gun 'ere

Imagine if they had reliable HP back in that day

>All 1,200 ft lbs of force in a concentrate area of the chest

>>33677235
>thinks scientific ballistic gel tests are Call of Duty

>>33677257
>Thinks ballistics gel is scientific

>Doesn't understand what happens when bullets hit bone

>Doesn't understand what happens when bullets cause tissue expansion

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>>33677264
What if the bullet just flies through the rips?

And you saw what happened to the vital organs even though there was tissue expansion? Nothing, right...

>>33677205
Still might have lived, thus proving that anyone owning an AR15 in .223 should bend over and present their anus, along with your weapons, for men with more effective rifles before we just kill you all.

Or maybe realize a bog-standard 55gr JSP through the top of your heart means your blood pressure is going in the shitter in seconds.

The choice is yours.

>>33677264
>what happens when bullets hit bone
See
>>33677201

It gets worse

God damn, guys. Did Home-Invasions-Are-Fantasy-Buy-A-.270 guy make you all this angry?

>>33677373
Actually in that particular instance the xm193 didn't hit bone. It shredded the quad muscles and cracked the femur in half from hyrdostatic shock alone. It was a clean break too.

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>>33677186

These people bled to death after getting shot.

>>33677186
> Empties entire 30 rounds
> Victim only loses face

> I shoot once with my Remington 700 in .30-06
> Entire head blown clean off
> Shockwave causes premature abortion of every fetus within 1 mile radius

Quit drinking the tacti-cool-aid and step up to a real man's caliber.

>>33677372
>being this retarded

Well to be fair a 9mm to the face will still blow out some tissue at the right angle and be fatal

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>>33677529
>fuddy ought 6
>real man's caliber

shrimp dick fudd detected

>>33677529
>thinking that .30.06 is destroyer of worlds

Quit drinking the fuddlore anon.

>>33677186
how many rounds did it take to achieve that?

>>33677186
It amazes me every time I see this to think this guy survived this.

>>33677529
>thinking 30.06 will blow a head off

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>>33677529

People on /k/ are so jaded they genuinely believe that a 5.56 bullet cannot kill a man

>>33677529
tacti-cool-aid is using the combat effective 5.56 but to think that you need a 30 cal rifle to fight isn't..... okay bud

>>33677612
see >>33677205

.22 is the best round. It's used by hitman because if you shoot someone in the head, it'll bounce around inside their skull and scramble the target's brain!

>>33677667
That's more of an issue with shot placement rather than the bullet itself.

>>33677186
>556 beats that pants off of steel core 54r on my hardened steel within 100 yards
>on soft steel, has double the penetration depth of 545x39, and 545 has double that of 762x39
>but 762x39 throws the piece of steel harder, just too slow to penetrated deep

>>33677694
"B-but shot placement is for faggots! You need a real caliber to turn anyone into a smoothie if you hit their pinky finger! All marines should be equipped with M2s! Infantry is outdated anyways, put everyone in tanks!!!!!!!!!"

>>33677205
>A hemo/pneumothorax isnt an immediately life threatening wound

>>33677357

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrostatic_shock_(firearms)&ved=0ahUKEwi0hJyjtazTAhUTwWMKHXMxBe0QFggsMAM&usg=AFQjCNGKnlpQOFdB8Rkn-6DIZwYcUIvnZA&sig2=KaR270DYSUwKp3oB7eNYrw

It's not exactly replicatable in some gel and plastic/rubber.

>>33677255
What this guy said. It's about energy transfer, and the effects that has on surrounding tissue and bone. The steel core isn't exactly what you want to use on unarmored targets anyways, if I could choose between 1000 rounds of m855 and 1000 rounds of horandy red tips I'd go with horandy every time.

>>33677749
>Thinks using polysyllabic words makes your point for you
>also implying that a collapsed lung is IMMEDIATELY life threatening.

Nigga you have more than half an our, easily.
Not saying you're going to enjoy it, but it's no severed artery.

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>not realizing that they shot themselves with a 308 after shot with 223, and being so frustrated that 223 is even allowed to be sold because of the scratches they received

>>33677807
No, my word choice is not what makes my point, my point was a wound like a hemo/pneuomo is considered an immediately life threatening wound. Acute is acute no matter what way you put it. It may not need immediate attention like an artery or airway issue but you will die without treatment.

>>33677807
>collapsed lung
>also
>collapsed lung = less tidal volume, now your body can't keep up with your bodys oxygen/co2 demands
>decreased cardiac output
>implying resulting shock isn't an acute life threat

>>33677205
>Paul will be firing in semi-automatic mode from a distance of 30 feet.
>fires in burst
>giving this video any credibility whatsoever

>>33677357
They said the bullet hit the lung. Regardless of what they think happens, a fucking hole in your lung IS life threatening. Have fun bleeding into your lungs and struggling with that 50% lung capacity with your "non-mortal wound" for the next minute at most

>>33677807
>Nigga you have more than half an our, easily.
WEW LAD, time to go back to a basic high school level anatomy class

>>33678058
This is what I was trying to say when the dumbass said it was not immediately life threatening.
>GCS to Lung
>Hemopneuomothorax
>Above causes decreased tidal volume, decreased cardiac output and increased respirations to compensate for the build up of Co2 not getting blow off
>Increased respiratory rate will eventually lead to respiratory arrest if left untreated
>Cells arent perfusing adequately and shock sets in as do the effects of anaerobic cellular metabolism
>Blood volume is decreased due to bleeding into thorax leading to hypovolemia
>All of these are immediately life threatening
>SpO2 and EtCO2 levels drop and patient becomes unconscious
>Patient probably gurgling, spitting up blood, aspirating more in the process, needing intubated and a chest tube

>>33678105
>GCS to Lung
>Meant to say GSW

>muh energy
>muh hydrostatic shock
>muh what if I hit a bone
Friendly reminder 5.56 was explicitly designed so people could carry a shit load of ammunition so that smaller numbers of men could put out more battle rattle
Also friendly reminder that every gun using nation in the world knew a hard hitting heavy rpund did more damage before America rolled up in the 60's with "hurr durr lets make space guns that shoot a lot of only maybe lethal ammunition"
Also reminder that if 6.5mm long rifle rounds were deemed by an entire country to be way too weak to even stop a malnourished 5 foot tall chinaman, that stands to reason a 5.56 is too weak

>>33678105
If it would be so life threatening why is it illegal to hunt with .223?
Can't be because of lethality huh?

>>33678123
>Trauma patterns in animals with thicker layers of tissue and thicker bones is comparable to humans

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> Be me
> Issue challenge to these Millennials and their .223 poodle shooters
> Feel their rage that they have to empty an entire magazine in anything bigger than a border collie and wait 10 minutes for it to bleed to death
> They don't know I'm out there
> Hidden safe and secure beyond their 300y effective range in my Real Tree poncho
> For as Sun Zoo said, I have already won this war before I even began the fight
> Waiting for the right moment for a single shot of my .30-06
> The only thing they will feel as my bullet passes through their heart will be regret and a tinge of satisfaction at dying at the hands of a true marksman
> As I drive away on my camouflaged Rascal, I am secure in my knowledge that my time in the tree stand and studying the teachings of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ have turned me into a true killing machine.

>>33678123

It is legal to hunt with .223 in most areas.

>>33678105
bonus points for
>oops you're crushing your organs and nobody but a doctor or ems knows how to fix you

Use a real cartridge faggots. You can't full auto your meme rifle anyway, so why not get a full rifle round?

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>>33678159

>>33678118
wasn't it designed so that it would have the same effect as a HP, because of the yawing when entering? Since HP is illegal in war and stuff

>>33677807
A collapsed lung is different than taking a high velocity rifle bullet to the lung.

If you've ever opened up an animal that's been lungshot, the lung(s) looks like a bag of red jello and the chest cavity is full of deoxygenated blood. The heart rapidly pumps most of the animals blood through the pulmonary artery into the destroyed lung tissue and out into the body cavity. It tends to incapacitate and kill faster than a direct heart shot.

>>33678591
Nah, thats a tacticool/fudd myth
Legitimately the whole trial requirements were it needed to be a small caliber round with a high velocity
Something like "have the wounding ability of a .30 carbine and the accuracy of a .30-06"
And it was originally only the Air Force bought into it, after an absolutely stupid marksmanship test by airmen, and the Air Force just said "less recoil means more shots accurately meaning more dead gaiz!"

>anyone saying that any bullet can't kill someone

Is /k/ retarded? Even .22 LR can kill you in a single shot.

>>33678860
A good portion of /k/ apparently cannot handle the gray area between 'perfect for hunting cape buffalo' and 'equivalent to a spitball'.

5.56 is too weak to kill which is why the U.S. military hasn't killed anybody since the M-14 got replaced in 1967.

>>33678105

Everything about this post makes me think you're a first year EMS student.

>>33679390
this.

I blew the guts out of a coyote last summer with my AR. Had to shoot him a 2nd time through the lungs. He was just standing there with his intestines dangling on the ground. It was cheap armscor ammo.

>>33678123
because it still takes a while to kill the animal, for one. You don't want to have an animal running scared after being shot and dying for 1-5 whole minutes before it finally dies of blood loss or complications with the injury, you want it dead now, because that's humane.

.223 is a lower fucking pressure than 5.56 too. This kind of logic belongs in a fuddlore thread if I'm even understanding it properly.

>>33678123
Correction, it's only illegal to hunt with .223 in some states. I knew a guy who hunts deer with .22 Hornet here in Texas. Totally legal.

>>33679993
And what's your take on the oh-fuck-imma-gonna-die cascade?

Back when I was your age we used to hunt. We'd shoot something- once, smoke a cigarette, then go looking for it. Sure, you can shoot it six times if you want...follow the trail right to the crash site.

And .223/5/56 fucks shit right up. Big hogs and deer all die from it.

>>33678145
that about sums it up.

>>33680428
I thought it was stupid as heck.

>>33677186
TEEE EHHHHS EXXXX

>be delta operator, .556 rifle
>walk in on gay goatfucker-fucking
>"aha hah stoopid merican gay weak cartr-"
>.556 entry wound, .50 exit wound, bullet fragments hit goat in the eye
>another day in the sandbox

>>33678044
What is video editing for 500 Alex

>>33679993
Not a first year EMS student. But I couldnt take the fuckery in this thread

>>33678159
Umm, i own 3 select fire 5.56 rifles.

>>33680880
Even if you didn't; We didn't burst or full auto ours in the military. That's what SAW was for. Seen plenty of Sandie's dropped with single fire mode. This dude is delirious

>>33677205
>implying larger caliber FMJ would perform better

>>33680518
You can say stupid as hell. We won't tell on you.

>>33680518
>stupid as heck
gosh darnit

>>33677205
>putting fruit in ballistic gel makes it "scientific"

Kill yourself anytime.

>>33678123

>politicians understanding anything about guns

In my state it's legal to hunt with a 38 special but not 9mm. It's legal to hunt deer with a 556 but only with 10 or fewer round magazine however you can use any size magazine you want for calibers .30 and up like an AK or M1 carbine.

>>33678145
LOL