Why are there different standards for females in the military?

>>33675249
>Only men are accepted to job, women are same as man
>Woman can do that job too!
>Job is too hard for women, discrimination!

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>>33675277
Why not use a single standard for both genders, though? isn't that a little sexist?

Because women aren't as physically able as men

>>33675365

Because progressivist doctrine demands 50% equality in all fields. If this parity does not exist, the assumption is that sexism is what's preventing it (same thing with racism, etc). Therefore anything that prevents the military from being 50% women is sexist.

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>>33675392
But unless they serve in segregated units, why not use a lower standard for both genders?

>>33675413
Yet you never see them complain about gender imbalance in garbage collectors, construction workers, loggers, or oil rig workers.
And even on the flip side, no complaints about less men represented in teaching, counseling, or nursing.

>>33675418

Be progressives are a cancer

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I understand the pushups, pullups, and crunch standards being different for POG females.

But why in the fuck are their run standards different? A fit female and a fit female run nearly the same times (unless we are comparing top tier competitions). Why in the flying fuck are women allowed to walk at the speed of a fucking push mower rolling up hill?

If you run that slow, you aren't fit you potato shaped fucker.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/inside-world-s-first-all-female-special-forces-unit-norway-n746041
how "special" are these special forces?

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>>33675962
Very, too bad they can't into 3 pullups
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkhgC2CEmcA

>>33675249
Why are there d̶i̶f̶f̶e̶r̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶n̶d̶a̶r̶d̶s̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ females in the military?
Why are there females in the military?
FTFY

>>33675413
Nah

>>33675365
It's because if there was a single standard it would be someplace in between men and women, meaning only the most fit chicks would make it.

>>33676094
>Why are there females in the military?
Because there needs to be someone available to lose everyone's records. Even POG jobs are outside of their ability.

>>33676118
>most fit
>military
You mean "only the fit ones". Because 80% of the chicks are fat asses.

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>>33676136

>>33675418

That video gets me every fucking time. They're meant to be the BEST in the world at the X Games enduro, and they're worse at riding than your average guy that dicks about in the woods.

>>33676188
sure looks like it's the guy who doesn't know how to get off the fucking boat and ends up pushing it out from under the two women

>>33675249
Look if you've never enlisted and never completed a 12 mile fuck in under 3hrs with a minimum 45 lb pack, you just come off as a pretentious neckbeard cracking on that clip and chicks in the military. Let's be real, at least have done some of the military training before talking shit. There are trips and other name faggots on this board who couldn't even complete basic training

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>>33676332
True but it's still kinda funny

>>33676375
What does OP's undoubtedly planet-sized ham casket have to do with the point he's making? If two people are doing the same job they shouldn't have different physical requirements. It doesn't make any sense. The job doesn't become any easier if you're a woman. You're still carrying the same amount of gear for the same distance, getting over the same obstacles, etc.

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>>33676375
No you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBjcmIe0taU

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>>33676375
>He completed basic and that was the eak of your career

You give me airfag vibes. The fat chicks in your finance office won't love you for defending them on a Singaporean sewing dance-circle.

80% of military females are fat shits and somehow pass PFTs because their standards are so low that a dead body could make perfect scores.

You have hurt feelings. Everyone else has actual evidence. Go cry on facebook.

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>>33676413
Wrong pic. You get the point.

>>33676404
It's fucking retarded and redundant to even make those comparisons, or shittalk female service members, if the Anon himself can't even meet the basic female standards, nor has ever been expected to make any standard for that matter. It comes off slack as fuck

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Is it true that you can get waivers for entire portions of a PFT and that chicks get those waivers every single year for their entire careers?

>>33676422
No it isn't you dumbshit, taxpayer money is what funds the military and we have every right and even duty to be critical of the military just as we are critical of all government functions. Stop deflecting criticisms so you don't have to face ugly truths about reality.

>>33676420
I was 11b for 5 years, I understand military females have it easier and are fobbit queens. I just think /k/ommandos who never even have the balls to enlist because they know they would either fail physically or be socially unable to fit in, making these threads comes off as pretentious and neckbeard as fuck. You've never been held to any standard in your entire lives. All I'm saying. Probably a few atheist in the mix too, might as well meme that up with some Jesus sandals

When I was in uscg training multiple girls were constantly wearing light duty belts. Bunch of times during IT they'd be sitting down smirking at us. Pissed me right the fuck off to no end.

>>33675249
Because most women are physically weaker than men.

/thread.

>>33676445
*Tips fedora*
*Hits vape*

>>33676413
what is she crying about

>>33676498
Who cares? Its just an instinctual response to make a male like you run over ask "What are you crying about". Its a way of getting attention.

>>33676513
What. It was a simple question, because I don't speak French and the subtitles were fucking shit.

>>33676422
>It's fucking retarded and redundant to even make those comparisons

What? How is it retarded to expect two people with the same job to be able to perform the same tasks?

>>33676498
She feels dizzy, her head is spinning, the instructors are saying mean thing to her and somebody splashed her with water from a puddle

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>>33676530
Its a woman. That's why it cries. The simple answers.

>>33676535
>with the same job
Here's the thing. They don't have the same job. One is there to actually do a military task. The other is there to make the senior enlisted and company grades (or field grades depending on how degenerate a unit is) feel young again.

Two different jobs. Men and women are not and never will be the same.

>>33676497
*concedes argument*

>>33675365
Some guy was saying this on tyt he said women are good in stressful situation and keeping cool but the lowest physically able man is stronger then the top most able woman.

>>33676421
I heard in the news the guy who posted this got in trouble or some shit

>>33676573
>women are good in stressful situation and keeping cool
All evidence to the contrary
I mean, for fuck's sake the DEFINING stereotype of women almost universally is their tendency to histrionics. It's fine (though utterly meaningless) to #notallwomen that stereotype, but it baffles me that someone somewhere seriously has done the mental gymnastics to end up completely running against that universal trend.

>>33676540
I cry when I listen to certain classical songs, I cry at good war movies, and I cry when people I care about die. (Also cried like a baby when my ex left me). Everyone cries. I was curious as to why this particular G.I. Jane was crying during her march. I imagined it was because she wasn't having a good time. But I still didn't know, language barrier as stated before.

>>33675249
Because ideology is more important than utility.

>>33676332
>guy on the boat, touching nothing but the boat, is pushing the boat away from something else
Durrr fizziks r haerd

>>33676595
Makes sense. It looks good on an officer's fitness report when they enforce the regulations by supporting a diverse environment by quelling anything that could be seen as not-PC.

If you are military, NEVER EVER, put your name on any of your opinions.

>>33675449
Men were predominant in the professional medical field for almost the entirety of modern history up until the Red Cross took off. Now male medical caregivers are seen as alternatively effeminate or, in positions of expertise such as surgeons, considered less amiable.

>>33676539
Her palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy
There's vomit on her blouse already, DFAC spaghetti

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>>33675249

Because Women are inferior to men in every way except for the ability to excrete children.

>>33676446

Thank you for your cervix. Now fuck off faggot, we dont care that you spent 5 yrs as a 11b, a MOS a retard (Which 90% of you are) can do.

>>33676094
To be fair they would be great to relieve stress if they wore mini skirts and were on forced birth control.

>>33675996
>training an all-female group of blonde aryans to send to the fucking Middle East
Holy god they're just giving them up as a sacrifice

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Females are only allowed to garbage because leadership is garbage.

>>33676608
The point is, you know why you cry.

She has no idea why she is crying besides she "Feels" like it, or it "Feels' difficult, or it "Feels" unfair.

Social creatures, not logical.

In the IDF we've effectively given women positions they can work in for decades. Logistics, administration, transportation, air defense, etc.. These days tho they're trying to integrate them into combat units. Has been a disaster

>>33676420
>he thinks that basic training tier ruck march was hard

I fucking lead another march with all the PT rejects that had to make there's up and I was jogging the entire time. 45 pounds is fucking nothing.

>>33676693
And nobody gives a fuck about the opinions of fat neckbeards who have never done any amount of physical exercise or been held to any standard in their entire lives. I agree military females should be held to the same standard as males, I just think it looks absolutely absurd coming from faggots like this thread, projecting

>>33676539
So like basic over exertion and she has no idea whats happening, then panics and cries like a bitch?

Warrior ready imo

>>33675249
But she's cute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1xtbwAQHD4

>>33676295

That just means there aren't very many women who are in the sport.

Being the best of a pool of twenty doesn't mean a whole lot.

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>>33676741
>I think
Report the EO violation if you are this triggered, my limp wristed friend.
You'll get another bronze star.

>>33676807
That's a Com tho. Undeserved, yes, but not a Bronze Star

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>>33676921
bronze stars are for airfag finance only

>>33676782

Yeah but the best in the world? I mean holy shit, if you're going to compete in the X Games, at least be competent.

>>33676729
things that never happened

>>33675249
Why do you always make these types of threads. We have had this discussion multiple times. Just stop already

>>33676741
>Everyone who disagrees with me is fat

>>33675449
Military gives you pretty good stuff if you're female
>Won't die because won't be any close to front-line
>Sit in FOB, and eat hot foot
>Get money for that
>End service saved with money, because you didn't need to buy food or rent apartment

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>>33676693

Eat a dick, faggot

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>>33676446
>Y-y-you guys don't even have the balls to go fight for Israel!
Sure, famalam.

>>33675249
Millions of years of evolution. They aren't made for it, no matter how hard you or them want them too.

t. Infantryman

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>>33675249

>>33677773
This shit tears up a mans body pretty well, so I have never seen how women think they can work toe to toe and side by side with men in the combat arms as equals.

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>>33676632

watch again, my friend.

Because the left today are dyed in the wool ideologues and see stuff like the ruining of morale/capability of the military as a small price to pay for pushing their agenda

The rest are just fucking liars & hypocrites who make money doing this garbage.

>>33675249
>Muzzle pointing directly at face for a few seconds
They should have immediately just said "Sweetheart, I don't think this is gonna work"

>>33678682
Holy shiitake. WTF?

>>33678682
>>33682531
What is she being awarded?

>>33675249
Because feminist don't want equality, they just want to "empower women". They want more females in the military to show the world they are independent and strong and need no man. So they force the military to design disabled tier tests for women so they can enter the military for granted.

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>>33683793

>chat cunt in that back raising her arms and looking back as if to say "What? Thats not fair!"

>>33683814

Seriously, we should invest more budget on creating cool prosthetics for mutilated soldiers rather than training useless women.

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>>33675249
If I remember correctly that woman on the webm actually has pelvic fracture.
Also this has been done far past death.

>>33676188
>get out of water
>can't even get up without getting back into the water

>>33676375

Take a quick look at the uploader's other videos on his channel and it looks like he was legitimately a grunt who deployed to afghan at least

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RlAEbZ3xSo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2Qb9TbzSrU

>>33683835

its almost like climbing out of water requires decent upper body strength, the thing women dont get much of

>>33676375
>pog chairforce faggot that eas'd as an e4 after 4 years(if that) throws his effeminate 2 cents in

95% of military women fit one of the following
>pft failures despite standards fat boys can handle
>outside height/weight regs almost their entire career (usually still manage promotion despite supposedly mandatory non-req)
>spends most of their enlistment on medical chit
>get pregnant and get out (often through fraternization, navy fags can tell you about the stats for carrier groups, it's fucking absurd to the point most people literally won't believe it)
>medical discharge (assured disability, even if they didn't make it through boot)
>meritoriously promoted at least once despite being significantly inferior to most of your company's shitbags (often with one of the above issues)
>lazy sack of shit that does the bare minimum and seeks out every opportunity to avoid doing their job or any work of any kind

I'm sure I'm missing a few points off the top of my head.
But wilitary women are almost universally shit for what their roles are meant to be. Except as feminist feel good bullshit and welfare queens.
I can count the cunts i met that were worth a goddamn on one hand.

>>33682800
she won the annual hot dog eating competition

God I just wish these threads would just be banned already. Nothing good ever fucking goes on with them. It's like 'well how can I create a complete shitshow with minimal effort?'

>>33676446

Shut the fuck up faggot.
0311 and I always laugh at these bitches.

You sound like a fucking POG female bitch

>>33682800

The fat beaner bitch probably cried rape after cheating on her Jose back home and is being commended on her bravery.

Typical western civilization destroying kike stuff

>>33683918
Even the ones that want to do the work sometimes just can't.
We had 2 ammo chicks that were next to worthless because they were both 5'4" and maybe 90lb. Couldn't carry 30mm cans, lift SDBs, or move AGE around, and the 2 of them were put together on a deployment.

>>33676729
>45 pounds is fucking nothing.
it was back in my day, but these guys now are carrying that PLUS wearing plates. Fuck that shit man. My best time doing the 12mile was 1:54 to graduate from Air Assault course and I didn't even come in near 1st place. There were some fucking PT beasts in that class.

>>33675365
There should be two standards, but not based on gender. Combat and POG should be the standards. I don't care how many push ups my S1 can do.

>>33675249
I love how they've cut the video so it doesn't show the guy walking past her no problem.

I hate this so much. I just recieved my rejection letter from West Point. I met or exceeded all the requirements that were set forth (mostly exceeded by a lot). My congressional district was fiercely competitive and I didn't prevail. But boy, I'm sure glad all those minorities and women got a free ride in for being minorities and women.

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>>33676188
Most tragic thing about that video is the spilled beer. F

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>>33675996
*sexy noises*

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>>33683823
this guy get's it

>>33675249
Didn't you know? It's sexist to hold them to the same standards and give them the same treatment as men. If you don't give women special treatment instead of equal treatment, you're an anti-feminist misogynistic white male.

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>>33675996

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>>33676188

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>>33675996

>One of the soldiers is 6 months pregnant.

What the fuck? Did I read that right? 15:36.

>>33676696
This desu. Comfort women are the only acceptable role for women in the military

>>33676697
I've always wondered about this. Do the women who want to be combatants have no functional knowledge of the history of war? In the middle East certainly but worldwide as well. In occupied areas civvie women get turbo raped, let alone fucking female POWs. I just can't imagine what would possess someone who is instantly resigned to a fate worse than death if they're captured to sign up for a combat role.

>>33684522
I don't have the gif for it, but I hear a lot of women who sign up for combat roles save a bullet for themselves. Honestly, I'm betting a lot of men do the same, given who they're looking at being captured by.

>>33682800
it's a promotion

>>33675962
Well special forces is not what most people think. Special forces is more closely linked to military intelligence than infantry. In certain cultures a male soldier is forbidden to speak with a female civilian without another male present. In this case a female would be invaluable.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eN5N4AZxZs

17:00 the best part.

>>33675249
Ok the first one is actually the Expert Medic Badge qualification course. Pretty difficult and she's just a fucking pussy.

>>33676573
That's a foolish statement. When I was in a saw manlets that got bested by cornfed bull dykes all the time

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>>33684612

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>>33684612

21:08

wew

>>33676391
holy fuck. Imagine if that were a M67 frag

>>33684610
Wasn't there some SOF that officially didn't have any women, but still used women for specific shit? I recall there being some story about an Asian woman who got into enemy territory by being disguised as a nurse?

>>33676413
Holy shit she would be face down with about 3 drill sergeants boots up her ass if she pulled that shit in the Army.

>>33675249
Women are the weaker sex, its a fact jack. Even a fag man is stronger than a woman. Bone structures and muscles for men are bigger and heavier. However there are some small men and big women out there. No matter, because a woman soldier cant take a man soldier unless he lets them. Just like a trained ufc fighting "woman" cant take on a trained ufc man fighter and how would they fair in the nfl? Its all lies and deception. Man is suppose to lead.

>>33675249
No wonder our military is laughable now and other countries dont fear us like they use to! Look at this crap...

>>33676807
She fucking emailed the head of the SHARP program. Not her next level chain of command, she went right to the top.

>>33676375
50lbs in 2:37 for a 12miler up a fucking set of hills. Etadik

>>33676094
There is a good use for women in the military. I used to know a personnel clerk who I swear her mouth was made of velvet. I knew a mechanic with some amazing daddy issues.

>>33684657
>hahahhaah
>We're all dead cause I didn't listen during grenade qual!

>>33684501
Yes. The commander is 6 months pregnant.

>>33675249
If im not mistaken that's a 12 mile and she finished in sub 3 hours. Which is the standard.
Don't get me wrong that's a low standard, but its the standard.

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>>33683823
This.

>>33684612
How the fuck do you not know how to toss a grenade. That's the most basic shit.

Sexual dimorphism

>>33676776
5/7

>>33684293
How does she shoot with dem pretty mittens?

>>33676728
>IDF
Israeli defense force?

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>>33683793
This reminds me of a friend who has a dream of becoming a police officer. She keeps failing their physical test because she can't climb the 6ft wall. I went with her to the tryouts because I'm secretly also interested in getting on our cities police force.

Anyway, this basically happened but with a fat guy. I go to climb the wall, get a running start, use my momentum, swing my legs and I'm over. I look back at her and she just walks up to the wall, tries to jump and latch on with her hands and attempts to pull herself up. She does this time and time again. Then this guy who's easily over 200lbs waddles up and does a fat version of what I did and makes it over. She just waves her hands up in the air like the cunt that >>33683814 mentioned and starts going on about how the wall is bullshit and it's unfair

>>33684293
>wearing inner gloves as outer layer
>maximum trigger

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>>33684422
>>33684297
damn, you guys werent kidding

because women are physically incapable of the same levels of physical performance of men, given equal training. they can't even have as low body fat as men with out negative effects.

women can barely perform in combat in an age where you fight poorly armed insurgents and can summon air lift, medics, and fire support with in minutes. they would never suffice in a near peer war.

examples of women fighting in 20th century wars are limited to defensive, insurgents, and boondoggles.

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>>33683823
We should start asking for this.

>>33676188
Did she hit him in the back of the head trying to get her balance? God damn, what a useless ungrateful bitch.

>>33684657
unbelievable. and they're laughing afterward.

>>33688657
Its a woman

Anyone have that picture of the girl soldier looking into a gun barrel while three officers look on in shock?