/brg/ Battle Rifle General

>>33669978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LX7WrHCaUA
Found your thread theme.

>>33670024
Correction: https://youtu.be/KXSWx5Q2XCo

>>33670057
I must be some sort of pleb, I didn't even know Shatner did this. Even more glorious is that he does it in exactly the way you'd expect he would.

>>33670170
Shatner's music career was, generally, better than you'd expect but worse than you'd hope.
His cover of "Common People" is amazing, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ainyK6fXku0

>>33670690
Looks like a Steyr barrel. That's some good shit.

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>>33669978
Why haven't railed M14 receivers become unavoidably common like railed AR receivers have?
Is there some downside to them that I'm overlooking?

>>33672448
M14s as a whole are far less common than ARs, stands to reason the parts are less common as well. A lot of people that like M14s are either traditionalists or fudds so that stifles their development as well.

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8th for PTR a best

>>33672448

M14s don't sell well enough to offset the cost of R&D for parts like that, and the people who do buy M14s are sticklers for tradition. That one in particular prohibits iron sights from even being an option, which are very good on that weapon.

People who buy old Cold War shit like that don't buy it because they want a solid .308. They buy it because they want an M14, and a railed receiver makes it not an M14.

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Polytech M14S I got two weeks ago.

>>33672821
How's the quality? I've never actually handled one in person.

>>33672910

It's solid. More accurate than I am. People say that Chinese M14s tend to have soft bolts, but I'll shoot it until/if the problem arises. It's also built to USGI-spec, which Springfields are not. I'll probably swap out the op rod spring with a USGI one, though.

I got it for $950, and they threw in the GI sling with it. Kicks the shit out of or is the exact same thing as anything Armscorp, Springfield or Fulton Armory makes. All the shit-slinging between the different fanboys is making mountains out of molehills, splitting hairs and really a whole bunch of ado about nothing.

>>33672934
Cool, thanks for the info. Only ever had opportunity to handle some Springfields and one Fulton before.

>>33672934
Really the best way to go about running a gun with a sketchy reputation is to just shoot it and see what warrants changing.

I got a Fed. Ord. M14A which had an ultra shit-tier receiver with really bad quality building that had to be unfucked by a gunsmith. It generally worked well after that and I had a lot of good use out of it before trading it across for a USGI-barreled M1A which is bolted together a lot tighter and shoots a bit better.

If you get it cheap enough, you can usually dump it for what you paid. My M14A was broken down for it's parts and completed an LRB build.

>>33672992

Ignore everything anyone says about "muh history, dat's commie garbage". Every single M14 on the Title I market out there is a clone. None of them are original and I don't think any at this point are even built with USGI parts anymore. Springfield Armory is not the Springfield Arsenal, despite what their marketing may imply. Only go based on quality of the specimen inspected. If you decide to get an M1A because you evaluated your options and it won out, great.

M14s are kinda finicky when shopping for one, because they tend to have minor issues out of the box that you need to fix, regardless of who makes it. Sometimes the bolt doesn't like to cooperate, sometimes the bolt is soft, sometimes there's burrs on the receiver, whatever. The good news is that they can usually be fixed. My $900 rifle can have them and a $2000 rifle can have them.

Be EXTREMELY careful about accurizing them, despite the fact that every ex-Marine and wannabe who ever touched one likes to do that. That shit is a fucking money pit with a low ceiling for diminishing returns. It's a Cold War battle rifle, and not even the most accurate one. It was never designed to be a DMR or sniper's rifle and the only reason it got pressganged into that role is because we needed one for Afghanistan quick, fast and in a hurry and we had them sitting around. Any bolt-action .308 you can buy will, out of the box, kick an accurized M14's ass from here to Sunday. I'd throw a scope on it (and I plan on doing it to mine), that's the farthest I'd go. Before accurizing anything, get as good with it as you can stock. 90% of rifles are more accurate than their shooters and that goes for M14s too.

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>>33673068
Don't sweat it man, I got an M1A years ago. Been pretty okay.

>>33673241

Still leaving it up for info.

>no bayonet lug
>triggered

>>33673277
Yep. Been looking around and I figure I'll get one next paycheck. On one hand I have reservations about fucking around with the sights, on the other it just feels wrong not to have one.

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>>33672754

>>33674060
It always makes me laugh when people try to shit talk PTRs but post pics of different guns instead.

>>33673398
You'll feel much better when you have the lug on there. Bayonets are so satisfying.

>>33675259
How different are inch and metric FALs?

>>33674060
>no shell deflector
fake news

>>33676523
You can also tell from the rollmark and weird-ass cast receiver that it's not a PTR.

>>33675259
I'm really jealous of that guy's HBAR Izzy.

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went full retard with this rhodie paint

>>33679017
I'm not normally a fan of rhodie paint but that looks a lot better than most of the other people who do it.

>>33672448
shit like that would getin the way of the CLIPS if it were permanent.

Though the action could be modified a bit to make mounting easier.

>>33682213
With detachable mags being a thing, why are clips even really an issue?

>>33674060
>PTR

>>33682154
I want them to make the titanium receivers.

>>33679017
Looks good senpai. Why didn't you just get that nigger in the motorpool to wipe it on with a sock?

>>33682154
I want to see the look on the niggers face that got that rifle.

>>33684503
What are rifles 3, 4, and 6 in that pic?

>>33685265
STGW 57, BM 59, FN 49

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>>33684503
>>33685585
I was having a hell of a time deciding between the bm59 or the small batch of folder stocked 308 veprs kvar imported.
Decided to stick with the familiar ak, but I'll still have to get a bm59 one of these days. Already have a mas 49/56 converted to 308. The mas is one of the coolest looking and most fun rifles in existence IMO. I'm not the biggest fan of the trigger, but whatever.
I just wish we could get some of those sweet swiss stg rifles imported closer to the ~$1000 mark. They're some of the best looking rifles IMO.

Hate to start a classic /k/ autism battle, but what are the advantages and disadvantages of a G3 clone vs an FAL clone? I've heard a lot of good things about PTRs. I have no experience with battle rifles, but would like to pick one up.

>>33685926
FAL has better ergos, cooler furniture, generally softer if you tune the gas right, won't destroy brass

But you probably shouldn't shoot steel, it's more expensive for basically everything, and some people complain about the mag release, but if you're a pussy just buy an extended one

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>>33685900
Are those compatible with normal AK folding stocks?

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Stgw 57 reporting in.

Does anyone in Switzerland know where I can paint my Stgw? I want to paint it in a matte bronze color.

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>>33686074
I don't think so. Here's my other vepr folders.

>>33686082
>embrace the steampunk look of it

>>33685926
G3 will bit a bit more accurate and will eat steel case like candy. If you want to mount an optic, PTR makes them with top rails already attached. FAL will be more ergonomic. If you want to mount an optic on them, you'll have to get a bolt on railed dust cover.

My advice would be to try both if you can. They feel and work pretty differently. Either one is a great choice.

>>33676548
It looks like an old Federal Ordnance cast aluminum receiver. I have one in my safe that I picked up cheap, and probably haven't shot in 15 years.

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>>33686766
Yeah, Federal Arms. Frankly, I wouldn't shoot it at all. It's basically just a parts kit.

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What recoils
>better
And what makes it
>better
In your opinion?

I think it HAS to be either the AR10(/SR25) OR a FAL.

I am talking about the mechanical systems, not just SHEER WEIGHT (obviously the HCAR probably recoils amazingly nicely, because it weighs as much as a house).

Thanks in advance!

>>33686917
>turn gas system all the way open
>fal has no moving parts and thus softer recoil
FAL win evrytiem

>>33686082
Just buy some EC Paint. You can get them at gunfactory or dynamikarms. They are really durable, easy to use and also easy to remove (if you buy the remover too).

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I have $700 and one less AK74, so my question is: what configuration of kit do I need to get from Gunplumber for my first FAL?

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>>33687677
I personally went with the bipod cut barrel. It's nice to have the option if I want to put one on there.

>>33685265
SIG AMT, Beretta BM-59, Argentine-contract SAFN-49.

>>33686938
Classic tripattentionwhore answer.

>>33686807
But oddly enough, it digested any ammunition I put through it without a failure, around 1000 rounds of 1960's nato surplus, modern Chinese steel case, and the dirtiest, trashiest cases that I wouldn't dare in any other rifle. And it was still surprising accurate.

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>>33679017
lol ur paint sucks nerd you pussied out

>>33687855
your carry handle is on backwards

when is battle pistol general?

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>>33688535
I know. I've been too lazy to take off the gas tube to turn it around.

>>33687855
That build all original parts from your kit? It looks visually much better than the written description of the kit

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I may be buying a build on an Enterprise receiver, what do I need to look at to see if its assembled correctly?

>>33687677
whats the difference between his kits and the whatacountry kits, other than price?

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>>33689374
Yeah. All of those parts are from the kit. I was surprised how good shape it was in. This is from before I cleaned it up.

>>33689468
>Enterprise receiver
Don't do that.

There isn't a huge difference in the kits aside from Gunplumber's kits being cheaper and having more configuration options.

>>33689540
>Enterprise receiver
>Don't do that.
its $700.

I've been told they weren't bad receivers, they just weren't all uniform. So in theory if it was put together by an actual competent gunsmith and not jim in his garage it could be just as good as any other FAL. I only want to know what I should look for to figure out if its been assembled right or not. If its good to go I'll probably buy it, if not then I'll go down the street and put a DSA on order finally.

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>>33687677
NBC+HG cuz you don't need a bipod on a rifle, and the bipod cut handguards look awful. 21" is classic, 17.2" is cool and probably more useful. Whatever floats your goat.

>>33688586
Where'd you get the grenade sight?

>>33684503
One of the most beautiful weapon spreads on /k/. Please flip and retake photo now.

>>33690471
I'm gonna take a guess that those aren't his.

>>33690485
Well, out of the off-chance they are...
But yeah, you're probably right.

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I'll be getting an ELCAN for this in a little while. I got to fondle a 5.56x45 version and fell in love.

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>>33690265
I got mine from DSA. There are still a few left on their store.

>>33690843
It's the best optic.
When are you going to come to your senses about that terrible (but oh so aesthetic) stock, though?

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>>33691226
Yeah
No

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>>33691357
[email protected]
Okay, go send USSOCOM an email about how much SpecterDRs suck, then.

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>>33683208
>titanium
Follow up on this! Is titanium a good material for receivers?

>>33669978
Okay.

So, say I bent an FAL reciever and have only extremely basic tools available (hammer, anvil, vice, some circular pieces of steel, a screwdriver or two, etc.)

Any suggestions on how one might unfuck it?
I've been trying for hours and it kinda sorta works (I can get it in, I need a hammer to cycle it, but the prong isn't powerful enough on Its own to push it back into battery)
It's bent juuuuust enough that the bolt carrier has problems cycling.

>>33691492
Pro scar users have NF 2.5-20x24s

>>33691695
pics? maybe file the inside where it's binding. You may have to go to Harbor freight tomorrow and get a safe sided file.

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>>33675259
>>33684503
Anyone got more pics of rifles with wood on them. Preferably AR-10s with wood.

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>>33691796

>>33691739
Sorry, busted camera.
I can do shit but it's damn near impossible to take a pic with the selfie cam on my phone without doxxing myself.

Still, it's not really bent so bad that it's visible, it's only a slight bend, though I need to figure out exactly what angle is bent.

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>>33692121
Some Imbels had the gear logo stamped to hard and it bent the receiver, Gunplumber says you can file the inside of the receiver with a safe sided file.
Maybe sandpaper wrapped around a knife or something like that and taped off to create safe edges. If your brave put lapping compound on the bold just where it rubs against the receiver on the rails. Be careful with the lapping compound, especially around the locking surfaces.. Just to be clear, I'm not a gunsmith and I've never done any of this myself.

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>>33692363
Im jelly of that furniture

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>>33690843
ACOG best for scar

>>33692402
>1-8x scope best for SCAR
ftfy

>>33692363
Thanks man.
I suppose this is what I'll be trying for now.

I'll post in a bit if it yields anything acceptable.

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>>33692380
Yeah man, I love the look of the Izzy furniture and the cut down "Congo" barrels

>>33692437
just curious which are you gonna try? Do the file method before lapping compound.

>>33692474
The file method actually fucking helped man.

Thank you so much.
It's not completely fixed, but I have to stop for now.

>>33692767
no pablum famalam, glad to help. I'm gonna be in your shoes this weekend. Receiver should get here this Friday, headspacing shenanigans shall ensue.

>>33692976
>headspacing shenanigans
Gosh damn anon, my heart goes out to you.
Good luck and may Duidonne Saive watch over you.
>>33690861
So now I have an extra Brazilian stock.

Any suggestions on what I should pain on the side?
I'm gonna just keep shit and eventually build a Frankengun (so far I have some extra AK trigger parts and some FAL furniture pieces and an extra bolt and carrier)

>>33693009
Thanks, I got Gunplumber's book and a forged DSA receiver, so it shouldn't be too bad.

>>33693132
Noice.
Rented tools or home made?

>>33693151
Bought, the way I'm looking at it is that even with a nice receiver and buying the tools it's still cheaper than buying new. Plus I'm treating it as a EAS present for myself, and I can make it like I want it.

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>>33693009
>Any suggestions on what I should pain on the side?
left side: .308 Mega Milk sticker
right side: "7-1" in the style of a rack number

>>33693198
Good for you anon.
I'm a cheap bastard who enjoys figuring out just how to do things without the aid of dedicated tools.

Hence an AK built with just a shop press and tool steel bolt, and an FAL barrel with a mower blade and pipe wrenches.
The vice i wound up having to use is what really fucked me, as the mowerblade wouldn't fit over the gas block.

Anyways, you bought a Brazilian kit I assume?
Were you the anon who made the thread a few days ago asking what combo of kit/receiver to get?

It's kinda wired seeing everyone else with the exact same kit for a change.

>>33693211
>7-1
What's the reference?
1971?

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>>33693234
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_v_Germany_(2014_FIFA_World_Cup)

>>33693259
Kek, currently in the lead.

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>>33693221
Oh, you're the guy with the lawnmower barrel vice. I'm gonna have to figure out how to make my AK kit, pry gonna have to wait till after I build an AR.

>Were you the anon who made the thread
No. I knew what I wanted. It's one of Gunplumber's kits with no bipod and handguard. I'm going for an R1 clone, with that and the grenade sight I'm 99% good.

>>33684503
Give both of my testicles for those!

>>33693335
Are the grenade sights any good?
They look fun but I don't really want to waste my money if they're just more shit to snag on.

>>33693386
They're good if you have dummy grenades. If you don't, then it's just shit to snag on. Looks cool though.

>>33669978
What is best modern battle rifle?
Scar H?

>>33693402
Unquestionably.

>tfw you will never build SCAR H with 18" heavy barrel, Harris bipod, 3-15 scope (i.e. Viper PST Gen II) & canted red-dot,

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>>33693132
What type receiver are you going with? Which one would look the best with an Imbel kit?

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>>33691796
Bruh, I gotchu

>>33693397
Gotcha.
Gonna buy some dummy grenades and a sight then.

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>>33693442
An Imbel type 3 receiver.

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>>33691796

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>>33691796

>>33689468
How do people get such pretty M1's? Are they refinished or something?

Is there any instance in which an average person could be in fighting condition after taking some 7.62 real fucking nato to the chest under 30 yards?

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>>33693623
I bet someone somewhere has. I doubt it happens often though.

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>>33691796

>>33693675
What's going on in this picture?

>>33693741
Some Nigels surrendering to Juan in the Falklands IIRC

>>33693761
You're correct.

>>33693581
Yes, its a service grade M1 from the CMP. Metal is freshly park'd, stock is new manufacture. barrel isn't new though, its in eh condition. If I had to do it again I'd order one of the more expensive ones with a new barrel put on.

Normally its luck of the draw if you get a new stock, but I think the CMP has run out of original GI stocks in good enough condition to be sold. Luckily they're getting a new shipment from the Philippines soon IIRC.I believe all service grade parts are refinished though.

I'm trying to get a Scar 17, but they're a bitch to get in CA. I have $3500 to spend, and zero patience for Calguns' pricegouging autism. Where should I look lads?

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>>33695340
Pick up in Arizona, have local smith pin the stock, bring a cucked grip with you.

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What kind of rail mount is that on the rifle second from the left? Looks real nice, wouldn't mind one for my HK91.

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>>33696112
looks like a B&T low-profile extendo
https://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=16872&idcategory=118

>>33674060
Is that a camera that has similar quality as the FAL has accuracy and the M14 has durability ?

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>>33696133
Hey, that appears to be it. Much appreciated, Anon.

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>>33693761

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>>33693723
>someone actually saved this image
Why?

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>>33697068
Because I like the wood furniture on it.

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>>33697340
I did get a lucky pick on it. 60 for the grip and stock

For the few hopefuls here that preordered the MDR, apparently some peoples pre-orders have been pushed up to April 25th. So assuming that is true we should see the first shipments going out soon.

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>>33699085
Hahahahahahahahaha
>Deep breath
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

But seriously you shouldn't support Mormon cults, mmkay?

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>>33699136

So is the MDR supposed to displace the SCAR as queen on /brg/? That is assuming it ever comes out

>>33699481
If it's any good, maybe.
Probably won't get any contracts, so displacing the SCAR is wishful thinking.

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>>33699541
Not looking forward to replacing for me at least, I just want my space battle rifle. Though I'm sure there will be a lot of shitposting it/when it gets released.

>>33699481
The toolless swapping of left to right ejection, from what I have seen, looks scary to fire.

Hope nobody uses steel case or turkshit through it at first

>>33699694
The greatest shitposting will be from the inevitable issues that arise from a new system being mass produced for the first time.

>>33699795
That and bullpup a shit

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>>33697068
Wew, just found out that Tapco did a run of polymer T48 style handguards. It won't satiate my lust for the original wood but it might be neat for shitposting purposes.

>>33699997
Tapco has done a run of damn near everything as far as I know. If they made it higher quality they'd be fuckin unstoppable

You find that ad for Stg bipod legs on the files?

>>33700131
But then they wouldnt charge tapco cheapass prices. Nice isnt their market.

>>33693442
For a Rhodiefag like myself there is only one choice: https://www.dsarms.com/p-16036-dsa-fal-sa58-forged-type-r1-carry-handle-cut-receiver-762mm.aspx

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>>33700894
Youd put a type 3 lower with a type 1 upper?

>>33688535
For the last time check your pm's on YT gay boi

>>33700911
I might try to grind it to match. We'll see how much my autism is triggered. This is a pretty half ass clone anyways.

>>33701007
There were some Imbel contracted FALs in Rhodesia. It wasn't common though.

>>33701044
Those would be type 3 throughout then. Just get a SA kit and an imbel/type3 upper then.

>>33701044
Not suprosed. I've never seen a picture of a Rhodesian with a Type 3 FAL, I have seen type 2. I wouldn't put it past them.

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>>33700131
I didn't. I don't particularly need a bipod at the moment. I was just asking since you took off yours. Also, check out what I found on the wiki page for T48:

>The United States also received a small number of FAL Heavy Barrel Rifles (HBAR) (either 50.41 or pre-50.41) for testing, under the designation T48E1, though none of these rifles were adopted by US.

That and this pic are still the only things I've seen in regards to those heavy barrel versions.

>>33701424
I'd honestly recommend against them, they're autism pleasing on kits but there's a reason a lot of dudes just took theirs off. They're relatively heavy, make the grip uncomfortable when you hold it folded, not useful on anything but dirt, clamp affects accuracy, and they're also one of the worst things I've ever put onto or taken off a gun. Getting them on requires you to orient a spring loaded detent properly and then force the leg up into the gun while you screw a bolt into place, which wouldn't be as much of a problem if you had literally anything to grip. I've only taken mine on and off 4 times maybe but I can't even count how many times my hand slipped and the leg fell out of place or the leg slipped and fucking launched the detent

If they weren't part of my kit I probably would have sold them to you rather than ever even bother attempting to put them on the gun again

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>>33701473
I just got the bipod cut so I could have the option to put one on or not. I may not even get one then. If I did, I'd be going for the Greek aesthetics apparently.

>>33701522
They're not too expensive so don't let me completely deter one if you want one, but it's not something you're gonna be taking on and off at a whim, it's really a one or the other type deal unless you're a fuckin masochist

>>33702217
Are they kinda loose or do they lock up tight?

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>>33669978
Sorry I'm late

>>33702807
that's a cute boy

>>33702807
Nice rape dungeon

>>33702814
4u

>>33702807
>"It holds the G3 or it gets the hose again!"

>>33702870
You should see the reloading room/actual rape dungeon

>>33702420
They lock up nice and tight on mine, no wobble when deployed, anti rotation is nice I think I did something to mine cause it twists too far right now but I probably did that on my own

It's just the attachment method is absolute balls, if/when you buy one you'll wish you had a second person to hold the gun while you force the leg into position with one hand and screw the bolt into the other while holding the gun in a leg lock

There's also the Dutch QD one which is supposed to be a lot better but it's harder to find and more expensive. But that gucci value

Pretty much settled on a PTR for my first 308. I want to put on a retractable stock, be able to mount an optic, and be able to put a bipod on it. I would be doing all of that right away, not later on.

Is this the right PTR for what I'm trying to do:

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/ptr-91-a3r-308-rifle-detail.html?Itemid=0

Retractable stock I'm looking at:
http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/G3-COLLAPSIBLE-STOCK-EX-LN-25p2056.htm

And does anyone know where to get a bipod?

>>33703910
I should point out that I only picked that PTR for the bipod mount. If a bipod can be mounted to the GI models, I'd be happy with that as well.

Like this one:

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/ptr-gi-r-308-rifle-paddle-mag-release-detail.html?Itemid=0

I actually prefer the green handguard anyway if that's the case.

>>33703910
G3 collapsible stocks suck balls and if you're going to spend enough time proned out behind your rifle that a bipod
http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/HK-BIPOD-p1.htm
would be a good idea, then you'd be better served by a bolt gun and better glass.

hey guys question, is the M1 grand a battle rifle? I mean it shoots 30-06.

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>>33703910
>>33703970
The bipod mounts are on the handguard, not the rifle. You could get the GI and swap out the handguard for one of the wide ones. You can also get the wide handguard in green if you prefer. Here's the G3 bipod:

http://www.robertrtg.com/store/pc/HK-BIPOD-2p1.htm

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>>33704024
yes.

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Just got a PTR91 GI.

Any tips for cleaning chambers after range trips?

I usually tend to shoot about 60 rounds a trip through rifles.

I have no rigid rods. I usually use otis pull through.

If I bought a cheap hoppes pistol cleaning rod could I just brush out chamber with a 45 brush?

Or will I run into trouble with ballbearing handle?

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>>33704733
Also was looking a these for about 11 bucks.

They are 9 inches dewey also makes an ar15 chamber rod for about 14 that has a fixed handle.

Or would these be too short/hard to menuver in HK receiver?

>>33704733
Boresake, bruh. Combine that with a big o'l bristly chamber brush and you'll be fine.

>>33704830
what do I stick the chamber brush on? I have no rigid rod atm thats the problem.

>>33679017
Why did you put such a huge orange in your old fashioned?
Also I am pretty sure I saw this FAL on lereddit.

>>33704904
I found a .308 chamber brush at a local gun store. Shove it in the chamber, it wont go further, then pull it back out. Inspect flutes for cleanliness, they're always good, done.

get one with a rod?

>>33704024
it doesn't have a removeable magazine

>>33704024
No detachable magazine
Too old

>>33704923
Yeah, but that's because half of /brg/ is on reedit

I want a SCAR. Why should I not get one?

>>33706680
Why not? Get whatever makes your pants the tightest

>>33706680
Do it. They're the best.

>>33706680
They're fantastic guns but if they're $3000 fantastic is up to you. You can build a similar performing AR for about half that.

>>33686082
That fucking bayonet, wtf

>>33707365
I don't think that's a bayonet m8.

>>33707315
but why

>>33689468
You might want to ship ars your receiver and have him build your fal. That way he'll at least make sure it works properly being an enterprise receiver and all. Unless it's marked "buena park" you dont have anything good or special.

His kits are enterprises inventory from when the atf shut them down. Fuckers were sketchy af.

You get more mix n match options as well as parts guaranteed to work rather than just a kit with a ton of shit that will need replacing, ars would never sell junk. As well as he doesn't charge extra for hand picking or examining bullshit, he already sorted them into buildable kits that can be made into a rifle that works.

>>33689961
You paid $700 for an enterprise receiver, you poor fucking idiot.

You can get a forged dsa for over $200 less

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Is g3 good for combat?? Especially manipulating the mag in a firefight??

>>33708247
No, G3s have never seen combat before.

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>>33708334
We used G3's for 40 years now to kill minorities and some rebel and we fought them with those G3's how the fuck it did not saw combat??

>>33708387
It was a retarded answer for your retarded question.

>>33708398
What do u mean i asked is g3 viable for combat they are fucking huge and hard to manipulate in vehicles??

Considering building a FAL, what am I in for?

>>33708589
More work than an AR, but less than an AK. It's not too bad.

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>>33705496
You don't even use a cleaning rod?
>>33705498
Where can I find a cheap supply of those 45 caliber brushes on wire rods? I have been looking all over online and can't seem to find them for cheap.

>>33708411
It's perfectly viable for combat just like any other of the big 3 but there are certainly better options.

>>33709522
It's viable like a Mauser is viable. Far from ideal, still shoots boolets

>>33708741
I do use a rod

>>33707315
H E C K L E R ' D
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>>33708616
>less
Nah. I've built both and disagree
The AK is easier because there's less filing and hand fitting to get the barrel properly attached.


Finally finished my FAL today btw.
Got the shit that was bent unfucked, got the barrel in properly, got it headspaced, and now all I need is a mag and a gas tube (accidentally bent it and the threads sheared off)

Any recommendations on where to find cheap gas tubes and mag my friends?
Have a Webley for your troubles.

Best spot to get furniture/accessories/etc for my HK91? I want that classic OD green set like pic related and a paddle mag release (and a few other things). HKParts has such a great selection, but those prices.

>>33713153
Robertrtg, apex, and gunbroker.

Is FAL Files the only spot where I can get some decent wood furniture for my L1A1?

>>33713178
Thanks, Anon.

>>33712957
Let me clarify: I've already checked the usual suspects and everything's $30 a mag and the tubes are out of stock OR they don't have anything at all.

So far E-Sarco is the only one with the gas tube at non ass rape prices.
I don't think they even have mags (though thinking on it I didn't check their mags)

Anyways, any non-obvious places?

>>33713230
Have you checked FALfiles? You can generally find random parts/mags on the marketplace.

>>33713479
I'll check, thank you anon.

>>33707315
I want to try this, but RTG sucks. they don't restock and won't answer the phone

Can somebody redpill me on PTR and their G3 knockoffs? Atlantic just got a new shipment in and I don't knkw shit about G3 manufacturers

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Is it normal for brand new ptr 91 GI to be very hard to pull back charging handle?

The handle comes out fine but it takes almost all of my strength to pull back unless I wedge it against my palm in which case it takes a ton of strength still.

I have yet to shoot it. Probably gonna put 60-80 rounds through in a few days. Just cleaned factory gunk out and relubed. Still hard to charge no change for most part.

>>33716725
Pushups are free.

>>33716735
okay but it still way harder than any other firearm I own.

Is this the norm?

I can do my ak with one finger. The only gun that I own that is hard to charge other than this one is my hipoint carbine but PTR is way worse.

>>33716616
PTRs are pretty good. You'll be getting a solid G3 clone and great customer support with them.

>>33716725
>>33716791
It's definitely more difficult than an AK. It'll get easier with use and as you get used to it.

>>33716889
at this point my main worry is it is hard for me to charge it while pointing the firearm downrange.

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>>33716791
You'll get used to it.

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>>33717022
So this is the norm then? I feel like an older used PTR I handled at a gunstore was much smoother.

I guess it will loosen up with use?

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>>33716725
>>33717038
You might see if the charging handle axle pin is backing out of the charging handle support and rubbing on the inside of the cocking tube. This can generate a lot of friction. If you take the bolt carrier out does the charging handle slide up and down the cocking tube without resistance?

>>33672934
>Kicks the shit out or is the same as Fulton Armory
Nani?

>>33717535
Yep just checked slides back and forth fine with no drag.

>>33717859
There's nothing wrong with your gun; you're just a wimp.
Git gud.

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>>33717859
>Yep just checked slides back and forth fine with no drag.
Maybe check your return spring and guide rod then; make sure it's straight, tight in the endcap, and isn't binding up inside the bolt carrier.

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>>33718486
Ill check that out later.

Any advice for sighting in irons? I usually do 30 yards then 50 yards on rifles. Should I be using 1 or 2 setting on drum?

>>33718423
I hope to god you are right. I have bad luck buying new guns.

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>>33718573
>Should I be using 1 or 2 setting on drum?
You do you baby. Personally I did mine on "2" for 30/200 like it says in the HK manual. All I shoot is M80 ball anyway.

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>>33718573
I did basically what >>33718632 did.

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>>33718632
Pls dont bully my baby arms. Also thanks.

Who wants their dick sucked for info on where to find wood G3 furniture?

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>>33720405
You can find it on eBay.

*unzips dick*

>>33720450
How do you like your OEG?

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>>33720463
It's not doe.

>>33673241
>filename
I would like to see how it works

>>33720479
Is it any good in low light, or would you need to tape a keychain flashlight to the collector tube to illuminate the dot?

>>33669978
So.
FAL muzzle devices.
What's best, what's sexiest, and which should I get?

It's a Brazilian barrel btw.

>>33721934
It occurred I didn't specify for what.

So.
What's best at receiving what it was intended to do (military surplus devices only)

The L1A1 pattern?
That wierd Rhodesian one?
The Brazilian "fuck me I'm ugly" one?

>>33685900
Did you do the conversion, or was it a miraculously well done Century job? If you did it, how did you go about it?

>>33720525
Just like any other rifle I'd imagine. Point and shoot.

Is RFB best B? Should I get now in case they stop being as available? Useful for anything?

>>33722313
>lel kek

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>>33722313
>should I get a bullpup 308 right before the MDR comes out (for real this time, honest)

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Anyone have experience with this particular rifle?
Famae 542-1
I want it fucking bad but 2 grand in Canadian Shekels is a lot for me right now,Im looking for any opinions good or bad before I buy it.
Im in canada so no fal for me >:(

>>33699085
I thought the MDR was already vaporware confirmed? They've been saying "next month" for the last three years. Plus why would anyone believe the MDR would be substantially better than the RFB/RDB, products that have actually been on the market for a few years and already have several quality revisions?

>>33722372
>>33722483
MDR is a meme. I honestly don't know why people are putting so much faith in this gun.

>>33722483
The MDR has also been through several quality revisions; that's why it's taking so long.
The Quake II engine came out so they had to scrap the whole rifle and start over, etc.

>>33722483
See: >>33722333

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>>33722372
>the MDR comes out

>>33722450
May as well buy it now; it's not like things will get any easier for you Leafs.

>>33722512
>taking so long because quality revisions
I bet you think Gaben has been shitting out "quality improvements" for Half-Life 3 for the past 13 years

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>>33722512
>The Quake II engine came out so they had to scrap the whole rifle and start over
I had me a nostalgic giggle.

>>33722504
Thirst for a lefty-friendly bullpup .308 that takes normal magazines.

>>33723263
RFB is also an ambidextrous 308 bullpen that takes common mags

Anyone have an imagine of a G3 pattern rifle with a wood handguard and a folding stock?

I'm tempted by atlantics 899 PTR deal but I love wood and I love that folding stock.

I also am a huge fan aesthetically of the wide handguards.
I want to sell my shitty CETME and buy something nice

>>33724379
I didn't say "common".
SR25 mags are the de facto standard; they work well and are readily available.
FAL mags are a mixed bag, and within that bag individual RFBs are notoriously picky about which specific, individual FAL mags they're willing to play nice with.
It would be a good compromise if Kel-Tec released an updated version of the RFB that fed from SCAR mags.

There's a NOS IMBEL GL receiver in the marketplace for $600 if anyone is looking for one.

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>>33724425

>>33724508
Word of warning: the guy selling it is a demented boomer.

>>33724562
Never mind. I saw the comments and thought this guy was some sort of joke, but he's actually the one who put the group buy together so he's good.

>>33724541
>gun2head.jpg
Meant more the classic collapsible stock

>>33722450
I want them here in the US, goddammit.

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>>33725299

>>33726988
That's pretty ducking sexy.

Hard to decide if that is a route to go, or go with the sexy wide black handguards.

>>33727605
Have you been able to find a wood G3 handguard? That's the hard part.

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>>33721986
Which brazilian muzzle device are you referring to? The standard imbel one is basically the same as the belgian one.

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who the fuck puts pipe threading on a muzzle break?

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>>33732436
germans

>>33732481
This is a problem?

>>33729769
Standard imbel.
The finish is entirely gone.
I got lucky and it doesn't have any problems with the crown, so that's a plus.

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>>33669978

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>>33734565
>I got lucky
Imbels are some of the better FAL barrels you can get.

>>33734721
I got lucky because the rest of the original gun was treated like absolute shit.

There were dings and scratches in places they probably shouldn't be, the stock set was shit, the finish was probably 7/8ths of the way gone (the barrel had some left inside the hand guards and the lower had a bit left. The dust cover is little better than a dust cover shaped piece of rust) the bolt and carrier were okayish oddly enough though.

I feel like the previous gun was never cleaned or disassembled, carried fucking everywhere, but fired probably three magazines in its entire service.

>>33734758
>but fired probably three magazines in its entire service
It's probably Chilean.

>>33735993
Huh I didn't even realize there were Chilean kits going around.

>>33713573
>>33713479
>>33713230

Wut are you talking about $30 a mag is pretty standard for good ones, even at $20 its a deal, don't get chink fal mags, dsa mags are questionablle though they'll be the only place you can find a gas tube probably, and surplus mags are generally whats recomended doesnt matter from where.

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>>33669978
>das helemet
>das long hair
>das G3
>das surplus uniform

Germany fuck yeah

>>33720450
wtf juding the stove you still live in the 18th century

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>>33737197
Yeah, there is no way to tell for sure since they got them from IMBEL in Brazil. I suppose it also depends on if your kit was made from one rifle or several.

The original rifles were acquired for a war that never went hot between Chile and Argentina. Look into the "Caravan of Death" that happened around the same time. Pic related.

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>>33739229
Pinochet did nothing wrong.

>>33743375
What is that attachment on the 9 o'clock rail?

>>33743375
That front handstop is weird.

>>33686082
that grip looks very uncomfortable, I might be wrong since I have not handled one but it just looks like the most poorly designed grip ever placed on a military weapon

>>33691357
this is why you don't shop for optics at the airsoft shop

>>33707671
why not?

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really wish i could get a real surplus M14. i know it's not the best battle raifu, but it's aesthetic as fuck

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>>33744456
posting some Marines in Nam shit.

>>33684503
*kisses pursed fingers*

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>>33744476
I hope he came home safe.

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>>33744524
This man looks like hell. Can't imagine the humidity.

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>>33744540

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>literally the only form of rifle shooting I've actually enjoyed to date is semi-auto .308
>live in Canada

why is the world such a cruel and unfair place

>>33744353
That's how most elcans are, eternal adjustments a shit

>>33744772
Cheap chinkshit m14 lover?

>>33744878
Yeah
Got rid of all my other rifles because I just didn't enjoy shooting them.

>>33744960
>>33744524
Love those weird M14 optic mounts.

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>>33744960
glad to see another nam m14 poster

>>33744772
Have you tried an SVT?

>>33745521
No but I've been thinking about it lately.
I actually haven't seen any in more than a year though

>>33743375
What optic is that and why do I get an erection lasting longer than three hours when I think of it on an FAL?

Please respond; I'll be back after I call my doctor.

>>33745542
It seems like it might at least help scratch your itch. Surely there are still some left in Leafland.

>>33745550
It's an elcan. It's shit.

>>33745561
Okay then.
Why is it shit?
I mean, as a range optic for shits and giggles and potentially some inventing eventually I actually enjoy "shit" depending on what makes it shit.

>>33745615
See: >>33691357

New thread:
>>33745632
>>33745632
>>33745632