M1 carbine

>>33667765

I really have no problem with them so whats there to talk about

Because hardly anyone here owns one.

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Most of /k/ is no guns.

The little part of /k/ that owns guns are poorfags.

The 1% are idiots who get conned into buying AR15s for 3k

>>33667765
they are great rifles, but people listen to the "muh lack of stopping power horseshit' from fudds who know nothing

I know I want one, but not for 3 grand.

>>33667832

You're not far off

>>33667765
Ammo is a bitch to find and the modern repos are absolute garbage for the most part. Those are the two main reasons I can think of. In all honesty they are a handy are fun to shoot. I take mine the range every now and then, and when ammo was still easy to get I'd shoot varmints with it.

t. guy that owns a 1943 winchester

>>33667765
I personally don't talk about them because they are banned by name here.
/K/ in general doesn't talk about them because they're jammy mediocre carbines.
ARs are lighter, handier, and more versatile.

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>>33667871
so then you want a shitty one from AO or "inland" thats not going to work right?
enjoy your savings broke ass bitch

when it comes to carbines, its Fulton ,JRA, or a regular USGI that has had shit like springs and extractors replaced to make it run good

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Still used by civil guard militia in Israel

>>33667906
>ARs are lighter

Yeah nah

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>>33667898
>Ammo is a bitch to find

you must not be looking very hard, i find it all over at 30-60 cpr

>>33667906
T.nogunspleb

>>33667906
>ARs are lighter
>loaded m1 is 5.8 lbs
>unloaded m4a1 is 6.4 lbs

>>33667832
This has to be the most genuine post I have ever seen

>>33667832
>ignoring the fact that /akg/ and /brg/ and all the posters within them exist

>>33667941
I stocked piled on ammo awhile back so I haven't looked much since then.

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>>33667765
I bought an Inland reproduction for $1000 back when they first started reproduction of them. I know that Ian talked about the gun in his review on Inrange and had issues with it. The same goes for Nutnfancy. I have had issues with the gun only after 500 rounds of ammo through it. I also only use 10 round mags, so that's another reason for these weird failure to feeds. I would always get pic related. I fixed this issue by replacing the magazine springs with a 15 round spring and installing a Wolff XP recoil spring. I'm doing a 1000 round test to see if I can boost my reliability from 70% to at least a 90%. So far I have been successful. If anyone is interested I'll post more about my research.

>>33668055
nice, definitely update us on that, what ammo are you running?

>>33668130
I'm using nothing but Armscor because I got a good deal for 1000 rounds.

>>33668155
nice, i use that as well, people say its shit but I've put at least 2k rounds of it through both of my carbines, with minimal issues(all mag related). oddly enough I've had better results with armscor than even magtech, i opened a box of magtech 30 carbine once to find a primer inserted upside down, weirdest shit ever, you'd think qc would see that shit. still have the cartridge as a reminder to be weary of magtech ammo

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>>33667832
Pretty much

>>33667832
>Most of /k/ is no guns.
>The little part of /k/ that owns guns are poorfags.
>The 1% are idiots who get conned into buying AR15s for 3k

i prefer scoped rifles, revolvers, bp and shotguns or oldgunz.

Assault rifles get too much airtime for what they are.

>>33668237
you aren't wrong but you are sounding a bit like a fedora tipper

>>33668237
FUDD
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>>33668055
To continue,

Gun: Inland MKS M1 Carbine with a Wolff XP Recoil Spring

Ammo: Armscor .30 Carbine, FMJ, 110 grain

Magazine: Only 1 10 round mag with a 15 round spring

I record my findings every 100 rounds and do little cleaning. I wouldn't break the gun down, but clean external areas and parts of the receiver. So far within 500 rounds I have had 2 failure to feeds and 1 failure to feed that may have been my fault and the magazine failed to push up rounds 3 times. so far that's a 98.8% reliability.

>>33667765
Because the only ones worth owning are at least $1200, the civilian-made ones are crap, the ammunition is neither great or inexpensive in 2017 and all of the 9mm/.22 replicas are garbage.

And this is coming from someone who constantly tries to justify the purchase of one to himself. Still don't own one.

>>33668237
>bp
boy pussy?

>>33667765
its not the cool M1
i own a couple and find them fun to shoot

>>33667765
Good examples are expensive
WWII issued examples are heighnously expensive
Post war examples from shit manufacturers are monkey models made from a mishmash of parts

And it fires an expensive pistol cartridge
>Inb4 ruin your barrel, chamber, and bolt on a historic firearm with tulaammo

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Daddy wants: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/04/07/breaking-civilian-marksmanship-program-receive-86000-m1-garand-rifles-philippines/

>>33668509
Define "expensive".

Most of the ones I've seen, even common WW2 examples and ex-CMP guns, have been $900 max.

>>33668577

I went to the huge Tula arms show last week, and you couldn't go two feet without tripping over something with a Garand action in it. $900 was the cheapest I saw a carbine and it was an IBM one.

>>33668509
stellar and bellot makes 30 carbine ammo picked up a box of 50 for 20 bucks

>>33668588
>gun show
>expecting cheap guns

>>33668509
>>33667871
what is the crack rock these people are smoking?

I picked up a mint non refurb mid war inland for 700.
You can find them all the time for 600-1200.
Unless ofc you are so poor you think that range is expensive

>>33668607

You got a deal, man. That's not the norm. You can find shit Universals for $700.

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>>33668607
T. Fudd still thinking 20 years ago was yesterday.

A fucking chiappa clone costs north of 500 old timer

My gf's father has a refurbed U.S. Postal Meter made one with a bayonet I want it so bad

>>33667765
Well, it can't penetrate thick Korean winter jackets, so I wouldn't want one

>>33668653
>soldiers making excuses as to why they can't hit shit

I want one but I can't justify adding yet another hard to find caliber to my list of ammo to buy.

>>33668621
It is the norm you just have to search deals
>>33668638
Just go here

http://forums.thecmp.org/forumdisplay.php?f=88

multiple in the high 900s in the last 2 weeks.
Often in the 700-900 range
get fukt

>>33668689
>You just have to wait for someone to die and their descendants to sell the gun for pennies
>It's (((only))) $1000 for a post war pistol carbine
>Sure the ok ammo is $1 but s&b is making .50cpr now or you could just shoot .25cpr Tula and fucking ruin your gun

It's a rifle that can't take medium game, can't be used in a classic long distance rifle match, costs a shitload compared to a rack grade Garand that is also (((only))) $700-1000 dollars (now potentially less with the new cmp shipment of Garand coming in), and depending on the year and manufacturer is either a piece you'd feel bad about shooting due to collectors value or feel bad about shooting because it's a piece of shit.

>>33668653
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCr4zXFZlcI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIN_z3tsGKo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dZo9W1qy1A

hhmmm looks like you are trolling

>>33668773
you have no clue what you are talking about, just stop

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I love mine.
I wonder if I could find some of those Israeli accessories somewhere.

>>33668832
You yourself just found out a completely average m1 carbine goes for a grand

Not all of us can luck out and find a fudd who doesn't understand how inflation works and just "wants the money I got into it"

Or forget that prices were different a decade or two ago and keep saying "u can get a m1 carbine for 500 kiddo, just like those $600 garands and shit commie rifles by the crate for $999 with a pallet of commie ammo!"

>>33668832
No, he's actually completely correct. The muzzle energy is just barely enough for medium game. Not exactly what you would select for the job is you had a choice.

The ballistics are similarly not great. These can be fin for collectors, but pretending that these are adequate hunting and target rifles is just as retarded as people that claim hi-points are ideal defensive guns.

>>33668967
>>33668898
have you ever hunted with one? I've taken 12 deer with mine, 8 of them being at least 6-point bucks,
also I've probably removed like 30 something hogs with it too by now, to be fair all the sots were in the 200 yards or less range but 30 carbine will fuck up a deer pretty badly, hornady makes the best hunting ammo for it.
you guys are just talking out of your asses or you are trying to take it out of range against its intended purpose.

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>>33669049
Dude, they saw a couple of youtube videos of people shooting FMJ into ballistics gel. They're basically experts.

>>33667765
Well, the M1 Carbine used to be the AR-15 of the gun world like 30 years ago.

There was a huge surplus of USGI carbines and military parts, along with non-corrosive ammunition. It was all cheap, generally pretty reliable and effective enough for HD/coyotes/SHTF preppers/etc. As time went on civilian manufacturers took over making carbines with surplus and eventually 100% commercial parts.

Quality began to dip substantially, surplus ammunition dried up and cheaper 5.56 rifles (initially Mini-14 and later AR-15) supplanted them in availability and use.

Today, an M1 Carbine is still very neat, but original USGI examples are quite scarce and expensive and the much cheaper commercial models (mostly Universal, but also Iver Johnson, Kahr/Auto Ordnance and Plainfield) have very hit-or miss reliability with several cases of out of battery detonations observed with the 2nd/3rd gen Universal models.

So you can either spend 1k on a USGI carbine which will sort of work, $500 on a commercial one that won't work well at all, or $400 on an AR-15 that uses cheaper modern ammunition.

>>33669073
>>33669049

I have better options, so I hunt with calibres that are more capable, and less likely to wound.

If 30 carbine is your only hunting option, reconsider your life choices to this point.

>>33669049
>uses a pistol carbine to hunt deer
By your logic because I can manage to take a deer with a Remington 1858 it is perfectly adequate and reliable so I should rather than spend an actually completely nominal sum, as low as $350 for a savage, for a nib bolt action rifle combo. For the price of a normal m1 carbine you could nab a Sako and some ok glass

>>33669120
I can almost guarantee this fudd balks at the prices of new production firearms

>>33669181
>Projecting

This doesn't apply to me so I'm assuming this comment is mostly about your own personal issues.

>>33668055

I have been planning on getting an m1 carbine. I don't want to ruin a good collectors item by shooting it so I was planning on going for the inland reproductions.

would you say it's worth the roughly 1k?

I inherited two m1 carbines from my grandfather. They are probably my favorite gun to shoot.

>>33667918
She's got quite the fupa. Hopefully she recently gave birth.

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>>33669199
>Off on the price of shootable m1 carbines by 30%
>Uses a pistol cartridge and his one rifle purchased decades ago to inhumanely hunt game
>N...n...no u...

>>33668653
Fuddlore bullshit tales from Korea: The Post

>>33669351
>>Off on the price of shootable m1 carbines by 30%
>>Uses a pistol cartridge and his one rifle purchased decades ago to inhumanely hunt game
I never said either of those things, you apparently think I'm someone else. My only tow posts are
>>33669120
>>33668967
I own multiple new and modern rifles, and handguns, as well as multiple police and milsurps. I have never said anything about the price of M1 carbines.

So again, I think you're just talking through some of your own personal issues right now, and I'll leave you to that.

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>>33669120
i literally own over 50 guns dude, i own like 4 rifles chambered in 30-06 alone, i have plenty of options
also"If 30 carbine is your only hunting option, reconsider your life choices to this point."
is one of the most cringeworthy things i have ever read.
i started using my m1 carbine first as an experiment because i heard idiots like you running their mouths about its weakness, turns out if you use good ammo and stay in its intended range, its very powerful, on top of that its lighter than any other 'suitable' rifle i own, and on top of THAT i can shlep the carbine around my property/the woods and i don't have to worry about bumping the scope out of zero or kicking the party stock or scratching the bluing or developing rust. and if that wasn't enough i love the history of our country and enjoy larping, pretending that hogs are japs.

>>33669181
that analogy is a load of horseshit you are implying that someone is FORCING you to use a certain gun, we are not, you can buy your dime-a-dozen bolt rifle with shit tier glass on the cheap with no character or history and it'll do just fine, but don't claim that you can't use something for a job when in fact if you apply some agency you can, hell if i was close enough with the right ammo and a buntline 1858 i know damn well i could take a deer.
YOU just have no fucking clue what you are talking about, hell you are probably a no-guns faggot who's only ever read about guns.
fuck you

>>33669388
I was in agreement with you about fuddus maximus m8
>Reading comprehension

Had a post-war build with a paratrooper stock and a Springfield reciever. It was alright, but not much more than a novelty, and at the time I was more focused on getting stuff that I'd use.

>>33669426
>Muh rifle needs "character" so I can hunt with it
Fedora/10

I can't tell if you're a kid who inherited a m1 as your only gun or an old timer who has way too big a boner for WWII and shooting deer at 50 yards. Either way, you still thought sub $700 was the going price for a $1000+ rifle thats only real selling point is history, in which case why only spend 1000 when there are $3000+ wartime examples to be had.

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>>33669291
Yeah, I think everybody talking shit about them has never shot one. They're so fucking fun.

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>>33669533

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>>33667765
r8 my bubba jorb.

>>33669645
CARBINE WAS FINE

>>33669645
Was that intended to trigger people? Cuz it's fucktarded

>>33669521
not an argument also you are mixing me p with someone else
>you still thought sub $700 was the going price for a $1000+
i never said shit about cost these are all my posts ITT:>>33669426
>>33669049
>>33668130
>>33667941
i didn't say shit on price so cry to some other anon about that, this is why /k/ needs IDs and god forbid someone namefags or trips so their posts are at least connected to them.

>>33669645
meh at least you did it to a universal, good on you for that

>>33669764
When I bought the scope the guy got mad and accused me of drilling the holes myself. Naw it came that way in 82 out of the factory.

>>33669812
lol nice.

>>33669645
>shooting my Draco pistol I recently bought
>have a love of old military rifles but bought the Draco to mag dump for reasons
>20 yr old kid has a bolt action rifle
>it's a 1917 Eddystone, a rifle that would perfectly round out my WW2 bolt action collection
>he put a rail and a fuckhuge modern scope on it
>ask him about the rifle
>"yeah my grandpa collects ww2 rifles and gave it to me. Just sighting in this new scope"

I hope his grandpa doesn't have to see that bubba'd scope job now

I've always wanted one, but here in Canada when I occasionally find a GI model it's restricted because of its barrel length (less you can do with it).
The only ones that are non-restricted are the reproductions like Auto-Ordnance, which are hot fucking garbage

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>>33668588

>tfw:
>Work for IBM
>Kinda want an IBM M1
>Don't $1000 want one

>expensive
>uncommon
>expensive round
If you want a real one

post war civilian reproductions are turds


M1 Carbine receiver and M2 Carbine receivers are identical. So they are and are not machine guns. CMP sold a lot of M1s converted to M2s and then converted back to M1s. retaining the M2 overstampings. they even sold rifles made as M2s but converted to semi auto M1s.

>>33669969
your loss poorfag

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I just bought a universal m1 for a good deal from some guy off armslist.

I heard that the gen 3's had some serious issues, but if your gun never showed any issue then it would always be solid, just that a number of them were produced with some flaws.

I have the gen 3 and haven't shot it yet, just praying it doesn't go to shit.

Despite all this, it looks awesome and I get a boner every time I look at it. Pray 4 me friends

>>33667974
>>33667906
Yeah, I don't mean a 20" Hbar you dingdongs.
A proper pencil profile 10-16" AR is infinitely handier than an m1. Even if it's heavier by a few ounces who gives a damn, Prove me wrong.

>>33670542
>M4A1
>20" HBAR
Close enough right?

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>>33669999
quads confirm poorfag

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>>33667765
They're fun

>>33670557
Still uses an Hbar. Still better.
The AR I'm talking about weighs a little over 5 lbs fag.

>>33669290
I bought the Inland MKS for that reason. I put more than 1k almost 2k rounds through it. My gun didn't have the same issues as Ian or Nutnfancy, but I did have to replace the recoil spring. Overall, it's a good gun, but I wouldn't say it's worth $1000. However, for the people in ban states it's a good option.

>>33667765
I own several in various conditions, one of which is fully restored.

Crap gun, to be honest. The .30 carbine itself isn't a great round, and the gun doesn't really have much use now either. It would be a fun plinking gun if the ammo wasn't obscure. It's not worth half of what they cost. To say: I wouldn't buy a Hi Point Carbine for 1000$+ even if they were used in WWII.

Repros are fucking pointless, I don't know why anybody would spend cash on a replica when the only value is the historical of the real thing.

The fullsize Garand is a hell of a lot more fun, almost worth buying by comparison. I've got three, won a couple of ironsight matches with my restored one.

>>33667832
This pretty much

Was looking at one for 1k and decided on a ar10 instead

>>33671283
>Hi Point Carbine
I'm really tempted to get one and just replace the ugly stock furniture. A carbine gets some good power out of handgun rounds, seems like the ideal home defense weapon that isn't pump action.

>>33667906
>/K/
>M1 carbine is jammy
>ARs are lighter, handier

You were so close to writing the most retarded post ever to grace /k/, but then:

>and more versatile.

Is actually correct.

>>33668563
> May Receive

NOTHING DOING

>>33667871
>>33668607
I pinked up my '42 Underwood in great shape and no refinishing marks, for $450. You should have bought one back in the 90's like I did.

>>33668471
>civilian-made ones
You mean literally every M1 Carbine ever produced

>>33672012
An M1 Carbine weighs 3/4 of a pound less than a pencil-barrel AR, and if you start cutting on an AR to relieve weight you easily lose reliability and jack the price up. The old .22 Spitfire (.30 Carbine necked to .224) could probably give 16" M193 ballistics if it was brought back in modern form. Of course you can't beat modularity and accessorizing. The M1 Carbine is still great for general civilian use, but it can't do everything an AR can.

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>>33672872
You know what he meant.

>>33672872

Can't really call them "civilian-made" when every manufacturing plant in the country was nationalized for the war effort, ding-dong.

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>>33669645
bubba/10
would fuck sister again

>>33667765
>little to none practical application
>expensive originals and shit repros
>cartridge is archaic and not very good(best thing about is that if it was "spitzerised" it would have muzzle energy roughly that of .223)

>>33669858
So do tell, how was it bubba

>>33670632
No, no it doesn't and the basic bitch AR sans HBAR is about 6.5lbs. The absolute lightest AR that people have managed to build are over 5lbs

>>33672978
What he meant was commercial

>>33673007
Sure as hell can. Fullfilling a contract doesn't make one a government employee

To expensive to feed. I'd rather spend that money keeping my Garand and Mauser well fed.

>>33672131
I got a '42 underwood for 600 back in 2008, the wood on mine is beautiful

>>33668055
its probably the feed lips

>>33668621
shit universals and plainfields are like $300 - $400

$800 should get you a nice example no problem

>>33668898
kek i bought mine a decade ago for $500

>>33669645

disgusting ignorant millenial/10

I inherited one from my grandpa, who considered cleaning a rifle, and I quote, "not necessary, the next bullet will clean it out." I sat down and cleaned literally an 1/8" of carbon off the inside of the stock around the gas block.
Great shooter. Loud! It was the first gun my sis ever shot and she screamed and dropped it with a loaded mag into the gravel. That was about enough to get some steam to shoot out my ears. Probably should have started with a 10/22 though.

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Didnt feel like scrolling through to find whoever said it but ammo is not that hard to find.

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>>33667832
Fite me fag

>>33673100
>I would rather spend more on two other cartridges which cost even more

M1 Carbine is my favourite WW2 era rifle.


Wish they had Carbines chambered in .38 casull though, wish that round was readily available too.