JUST militaries

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argentina is now eternally JUST because they are a leper in the international arms market and don't have the money to maintain what they currently have

still doesn't stop them from beating their chest even though their flagship got repossessed by Ghana

>>33658621
getting punked by margaret thatcher sealed their fate

>>33658621

Why don't the burgers give them more stuff? I read the reason the US refused to lend a hand to the bongs was because all other things considered, Argentina was still their friend.

>>33658696
Because they don't have the money to pay for it, and they don't live next to Iran or some shit that we want to contain.

>>33658696

in the 80s the US gave a shit about commies in south america unlike today

>72 years ago
>The fucking Krauts should never get the opportunity to start a war again
>de-nazification
>everything with the nazis and national pride is forbidden or will be marked as such
>72 years later
>America:"Oi Hans we need your help to overthrow those soviet installed Regimes in the middle east"
>Germany:"Fuck you Nazi! Never again Germany! Death to all germans! Never again war! All soldiers are murderers, Refugees welcome!"

>Germany cant field an effective army because terrorists have infiltrated it

There were like 200 radicals in an 180.000 army Wow

>>33659946
200 kebabs is 200 too many

>>33658696
What the hell would the Argies do with more stuff? They don't have money to pay for it, and they aren't an important country with a resource the US needs, so why should the US do anything for them?

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Syria

It's air force has been destroyed FOUR TIMES. After the 3rd you think they would have just gave up

Hafez must have kept some $$$ in his fivehead

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Afghanistan and a few Central African states.

Afghanis are fond of incestuous bum-drilling during firefights, from what I understand.

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>>33660034

>>33658531
What the FUCK is with ALL OF THOSE FUCKING MEDALS

>>33659946
That's a cool story and all, but you should pick up a history book sometime, kaffir

What does "JUST" stand for

>>33660331
just fuck my shit up senpai

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>>33658531
>>sold somewhere around 90% of its Leo 2's, the majority going to Poland
And we thank the eternal kraut for that, don't worry your leo 2s soon will be back in germany, with guns pointed at you.

>>33660331
It's a meme, remeber that guy with fucked up hair? "JUST" comes from phrase
>what do you want F A M?
>JUST fuck my shit up
>how do you want your army?
>JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
Over the ears "just fuck my shit up" evolved into JUST, it means something shitty in general

>>33660108
Kek

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>>33658531
Canada bought barely any, their military is still as worthless as ever.

>>33658531
>we r the backbone of NATO guise"

Has Germany actually claimed this?

>>33658621
>>33658688
>>33658696
>>33658710
>>33659555
But Argentina is white, right?

>>33660968
>the rapid response force didnt have guns
Christ what do the reserves have? Rocks?

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>>33660986
Yeah... Because rocks is worse than broomsticks

>>33660998
I would rather have a broomstick than a rock. Have you never watched a kung-fu movie?

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>>33658531
We also got our brand new cyber defense branch called "Cyber- and Information Room"
>A FUCKING SIXTH BRANCH
>AND IT'S BIGGER THAN THE FUCKING NAVY
they resorted thousands of people and a big bunch of know-how from where is could be used to where it sounds fancy. YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP

Meanwhile Lürsen(ship builder) is fucking our MODs undersecretary with his new ship prices, F125 is delayed by 3 fucking years and far beyond usable and MKS180 will not be build soon because GNY is going to court because the tender wasn't like they wanted it.
CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>33660976
Yes, our retarded battle priest president came up with this shit

>>33661007
>Yes, our retarded battle priest president came up with this shit
need sauce

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>>33658531
Canada is pretty just tier in terms of their equipment.
The soldiers are alright

>>33661028
Their camo is cash tho

CADPAT makes me cum

Its election year so you won't hear anything pro Bundeswehr from Germany until 2018.

The test for our standard issue rifle will be late 2017 begin 2018 I think.

HK 433 will will anyways.

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>>33658531
My pet theory is that NK personnel sabotaged their own missiles so we didn't bomb their country.
>we're still going to bomb them though

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>>33661027
http://www.bundespraesident.de/SharedDocs/Reden/DE/Joachim-Gauck/Reden/2014/01/140131-Muenchner-Sicherheitskonferenz.html
this speech and many more you find there

>>33661043
The opposite, the Bundeswehr will be an important topic for the CDU when they start campaigning. The new ships need to be build and a new rifle will start mid 2017 so von der Leyen can sell it as a big success of the CDU. They are going back to the old safety and prosperity campaigning

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>>33660998
You can always sharpen your broomstick and use it as a spear

>>33661108
That's not EU approved tho

>>33661108
That violates EU law. Broomsticks are standardized, they can have sharp ends.
THAT'S AGAINST THE DIN EN 68345
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>33661412
What the hell are you babbling about you retard?

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>>33661428
you can't posses non-standardized broomsticks.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Weapons are bad, no sharp ended broom sticks
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>33661428
I meant to write
>they can't have sharp ends
I fucked up my shitposting

>>33659946

This

>>33660931
Pls come. Polish overlords>>>>Muslim overlords

>>33661007
German navies have been pointless since the end of the Hanse.
Also, the cyber warfare branch will never be big because nobody wants to work there anyway.

>>33658531
Daily reminder the west wanted this for Germany.

>>33661462
it's not about wanting you just get transferred there. They put everything connected to Crypto, reconnaissance and IT there. They just took departments from the branch commands and renamed them they will be at 13500 men by July

>>33658531
>sold somewhere around 90% of its Leo 2'
percentage isn't your deal, we get it

>>33661468
this desu

>>33658621
What's alepper?

>>33661829
A sufferer of Leprosy who no one wants to touch.

>>33661007
>>AND IT'S BIGGER THAN THE FUCKING NAVY
Israel's Intelligence branch has a single SIGINT unit which has more people than the Navy. That's fine for a country which isn't primarily naval.
t. Joo

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>>33661835
sigh

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>>33661836
it's not an intelligence branch, it's main purpose is to prevent cyber attacks. The MAD is only 1200 men strong.

>>33658531

Ireland has about 4.5 million people
Irelands is pretty JUST

Literally abysmal:

The Navy has 1,140 people, no frigates or destroyers, no aircraft carriers, nothing. Just about eight patrol vessels which they use to chase away fishermen.

The Air Force has about 900 people, no fighters or attack helicopters, basically just a few surveillance planes and helicopters

The Army has 7,700 active and 2,200 reserve
They have no heavy or medium tanks and only
14 light tanks, most of their armour is made up of armoured vehicles of which they have 80, plus some cars

They have 36 105mm howitzers in the way of artillery


Some museums have firepower than Ireland

>>33662037
>no aircraft carriers
Surely they have some nuclear powered attack submarines though?

>>33662044
Funny
They dont have submarines, they dont have warships, they have basically nothing.
Smaller and poorer countries usually just buy older carriers and ships, but Ireland basically doesnt have a navy, they only have parity with Ghana

>>33661848
Come on man, that's harsh :^(

he... he still would have been a pretty good President you know... regardless of his PR gaffes he did a really good job in NM

Anyway I hope all you fuckers that voted Trump are happy, he's already flip-flopping on most of the things he ran on just like us "silly libertarians without a chance" said he was going to

>>33661971
>intelligence branch
I was talking of 8200. They have more people than the Navy does. I was referring to Modiin as the intelligence branch as that is what they are.

>>33662037
Why would Ireland ever need a big military, though? Who are they going to fight, UK or Iceland?

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>>33662082
>tfw not a burger
>tfw I get to enjoy the humor value of Trump winning

Even if he didn't do any of what he said he would, still better for the US that what Hill would have done IMO.

>>33662037
>>33662044
>>33662067
>protected by GB and NATO
>no enemies
>far too small to be called up for silly peacekeeping
Why would Ireland need armed forces at all.

(Also, who needs a navy when you have an airforce... oh wait.)

>>33662108
Oh absolutely. I don't dispute that.

Both of them are disasters though. Both are the type to change their positions to whatever's convenient at the time, and anyone who doesn't see that and votes for them is a moron that didn't do any research.

Trump's shamelessly pissing away a shitload of our tax money. At least Johnson would have made real cuts, and still given us our fun rights...

>>33662084
I mean the German military intelligence which is 1200, while of l33t haXX0r branch has 13000

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>>33662158
>anyone who doesn't see that and votes for them is a moron that didn't do any research.
Typical libertarian, it must be easy being so smug when you consistently back lame duck no nothings without a snowballs chance in hell of capturing more than 7 percent of the vote.

>>33662184
Sheeeeeit
Is it really that bad?

>>33660968
>"chronic equipment shortage"
kek, German for "we broke and dont give a fuck, yo"

>>33662230
Yes it is. For example the company that manages personal gear and uniforms used to be partly privatized and went bankrupt two years ago so it had to be completely socialized and today they still can't provide enough equipment for all soldiers. It sometimes takes until the end of the basic training to equip a new recruit with everything, because they are short on everything that isn't basic Flecktarn BDU.
>I will have to wait 6-8 weeks to get a new visor cap

>>33662158
Johnson actually campaigned on an anti-gun platform last year dudester. he was 100% for 10 round limits and AW bans. Also open borders cuckold and pro hate speech laws. guy has never been a libertarian. he's compromised

>>33662119
>far too small to be called up for silly peacekeeping
Ireland is very active in peacekeeping dipshit.

>>33661108
Ancient Hellenic armour is just so fucking aesthetic

>>33661007
I almost feel bad for you krauts. Almost.

>>33662225
That's better than voting for a guy you know will do a bad job, just because he'll do a slightly less bad job than his opponent. I voted for the candidate whose platform I agreed with the most. If everyone did that, we'd have a lot better, smarter elections with better candidates.

Besides, I was behind Rand Paul to start with. I only switched my support to Johnson when he dropped out of the race.

And you gave the stock criticism of Libertarian voters (muh they don't have a chance), so I'll give you the stock response: You have to vote for them when they don't have a chance, to grow the party so that later down the road they will. If no one votes for them now, they'll never grow. But they are growing--this year we scored double what we did last year, and it would have been a lot more were it not for Johnson's PR fuckups.

>>33661468
>muh adolf
go back to your trailer, cletus

>>33662360
>anti-gun cuck
Why are you on this board?

>>33662037
That sounds like what every other small, weak state with an ounce of sense does. It's all about infantry, infantry support, and security.

>>33662037
>still has a more notable military record than post 1945 Germany
J U S T

>>33662158
>given us our fun rights
Gary Johnson is anti-gun, anti-border, and anti-winning. His brand of "Libertarianism" is oligarchical statism + weed

>>33658710
there you have it american education at its finest.. Argentina next to iran fucking great

>>33662290
You're right, he's not as strong on gun rights as I'd like, and I disagree about his stances on immigration and hate speech laws.

But I don't think he cares enough about gun issues one way or the other to fight his party about it. The LP would strongly pressure him to act pro-gun, and I think he would just out of indifference.

The reason I voted for him was because of the track record. Look at the way he governed NM. He did an excellent job, vetoed more bills that all other 49 governors at the time put together, shrank the shit out of both taxes and the budget and left NM with a nice surplus. I'd like to see the whole country run that way. No tolerance for corruption and bullshit if it wastes taxpayers' money--he doesn't just talk about doing it, he actually does it.

>>33658621
you know they just bought a fuckton (for their size) of equipment.

They were making negotiations since 2006 with the burgers, they tried making a deal with france also for more Mirages, and 3 years ago with china, but the burgers sold them 12 F16 this year a couple of Chinoks, Blackhawks and other stuff

>>33662399
>Eurocuck reading comprehension

take the dick out of your ass and try again

>>33661477
I don't know what are you complaining about.

Do you want your citizens to fall for Putin propaganda and NOT elect Merkel or Schulz? Are you Russian spy by any chance or something?

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>>33662360
>That's better than voting for a guy you know will do a bad job, just because he'll do a slightly less bad job than his opponent
>he actually believes this
>You have to vote for them when they don't have a chance, to grow the party so that later down the road they will.
>libertarians STILL haven't surpassed one-time independent Ross Perot
>But they are growing--this year we scored double what we did last year
Wow a whole 3.2%
>and it would have been a lot more were it not for Johnson's PR fuckups.
And if rain were flavored, bright colored and semi solid it would be Jello.

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>>33658531
>All doze medalz
Exactly what the fuck did they do to get all these medals? NK has not exactly fought any battles since the 50's.

Shit I mean Audie Murphy didn't get this many and he actually earned all his shit

Are they like some participation award, or dear leader ass kissing medal or something?

>>33662452
If this is what you think is a "good job", then I'm sorry to day I disagree with you fundamentally and I think you're an idiot.

Ross Perot was a one-time phenomenon in modern politics, and it didn't even work. A model of slow growth looks more likely for the LP, and there's reason to think it will: The GOP is a very old demographic. Each year it shrinks because most of its voters are old christian fudd geezers who are dying off. There are a lot of young people who want small government and fun rights, but who are turned off to the GOP beacuse of their stances on marijuana, gay marriage, and abortion--the LP is the only logical choice for them. We'll replace the GOP eventually, I'm sure of it.

3.2 percent is 4.4 million people. We've got a good start. I know Johnson destroyed our chances with his fuckups, don't get me wrong. I somewhat blame voters for not being able to look past that--I'd rather have a retarded clown with a good track record than a charismatic leader with a bad one. But I think the future of the LP looks pretty good regardless.

>>33662451
What does protecting the Bundeswehr servers from spys has to do with people "falling for Putin propaganda"?

The problem is that the whole project is a scam for the media
>look we got the great new cyper shit over 10.000 new jobs. Look at it
while in reality they move people away from where their know how was needed, taking competences from the actual branches away to place them under a new command structure which basically means more shit we can do ourselves, because we need to follow the whole new chain of command to get work done each branch normally did on it's own.
Everything IT and Cybersafety related will take much more time and work now, making us even more incapable of functioning as a military.

>>33662469
Lick assholes of Kim family

>>33662419
>but the burgers sold them 12 F16 this year a couple of Chinoks, Blackhawks and other stuff

do you have a source about them actually finalising a deal? I can't find anything

I did find this from last year though

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/argentina-looking-new-combat-aircraft/

>According to IHS Janes

>“The Argentine Air Force is drastically cutting staff working hours and decommissioning its last fighter aircraft amid continuing budget issues.

>A recently published daily agenda indicates that the service’s working hours have been significantly reduced, from 0800 to 1300; rationing of food, energy consumption, and office supplies has been directed headquarters staff and property residents; and only the minimum personnel required to staff headquarters, directorates, and commands are working.

>These orders, issued on 11 August, take effect 18 August. A next step will cut Monday and Tuesday as working days. Moreover, air force officials said any aircraft taken out of service will not undergo maintenance for now.”

which casts doubt on their ability to even maintain a 4th gen fighter assuming they could afford one

>>33660931

Not gonna lie, Poles are based, more faith in them than most other nations in Western Europe.

According to my BR friend who narrowly avoided mandatory service, Brazil only has enough ammunition for 30 minutes of warfare.

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>>33662507
>If this is what you think is a "good job", then I'm sorry to day I disagree with you fundamentally and I think you're an idiot.
No, you thinking it's better to throw your vote away instead of trying to mitigate damage is what I was refering to.
>We'll replace the GOP eventually, I'm sure of it.
Nah the GOP demographics and stances will evolve over time and the Libertarian party will continue to cater to fringe weirdos.
>3.2 percent is 4.4 million people.
In a nation of ~325 million.
>But I think the future of the LP looks pretty good regardless.
Yeah, ignore the rollercoaster of voter numbers the party has historically gotten.

>>33659946
Yeah I guess you're right, 200 jihadis having access to western military weapons is no big deal. I mean what could 2 or 3 Muslims do with a Leo? They def wouldn't run over crowds while firing wildly in every direction or something to that effect. That's assuming they are too stupid to play the long con and sabotage the military internally. Good thing they managed to find the only 200 radicals in their ranks. Germany is a joke, everything about that country is shit.

>>33662666
If we keep up with this lesser-of-two-evils voting, the candidates will keep getting worse and worse.

Only time will tell us who's right. But conservative young people usually have a Libertarian set of ideals--small government, gun rights, low taxes, and personal freedoms regarding sex, marriage and drugs. If the GOP evolves enough to absorb those voters--which it will have to do to become relevant--then it will be basically turning into the LP instead, which is okay with me too.

However, the reason why I think a complete new party is needed--and I think the LP will continue to grow at the GOP's expense--is that the GOP is also becoming old, established, and corrupt, which young voters tend to resent. They say they're for small government and balancing the budget, but for every dollar they cut from one program they spend two on some corporate interest disguising itself as "defense" or "job creation". (think F-35 program) That would have to change, too, for young voters to come back to the GOP, and I don't think that will ever happen.

>>33662750
>Inb4 CIA secretly sabotages bundeswehr to make sure ISIS doesn't capture anything useful when they inevitably take over

>>33662750
Hah, you're assuming that any of our Leos even work!

>>33662082
>lolbertarian
>anti gun

Yeah, no.

>>33662750
>Bundeswehr
>having access to western military weapons
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The last time I held a gun was last June, also implying we had ammo for MGs and Leos. Top kek. Keep trying Jihadi Joe

>>33660986

.22 finger guns

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Is Singapore /k/ approved ?
And what do you think of Belgium wanting to buy korean tanks ?

>>33663053
>697 square kilometers
Where do they even store their equipement ?

>>33663068
No clue, but from my hotel room near the main shopping strip, I could see military helicopters in the distance and even a C130 or two.

>>33658531
In Asia? It has to be the Philippines.

>America's greatest cheerleader in the Pacific, way before Japan and SoKor did it (until they elected a pro-Chinese leader recently)
>100+ million people, only 150k+ servicemen
>has the same economy as Thailand, Vietnam and Indonesia
>no combat aircraft
>no tanks
>Navy is composed of old ships and unarmed USCG cutters
>is fighting two insurgencies and hasn't ended either one of them
>2017 and still using Vietnam-era equipment
>biggest purchase to date are trainer jets from Korea and sealift vessels from Indonesia
>despite being America's cheerleader for decades the latter won't even sell them basic guided munitions and missiles

Technically Vietnam is slightly poorer than them yet they operate Su-27s, Su-30s, S-300s and have Kilo-class submarines.

You'd think as a society who got invaded multiple times, has a long history of radical Islamic terrorism and communist rebels they would take national security seriously.

>>33658531
>Hmmm I wonder who these terrorists who have infiltrated our army are
>Surely they aren't all the brown guys with bears who are overtly Muslim
>NO Hans! Rayciss thoughts must be stamped out!
>Sorry Gunther. I will go and whip myself and submit to Private Ahmed's penetration repentance

>>33662552
i just rechecked some sources and the 2.000 million deal is off, it was a proposal the us military did according to some demands the argentinian military command wanted... so sadly no bell cobras or fighting falcons just some T6 texans sry bout the missinformation

>>33662507
>the GOP will die off

Nope sorry it's always been a party dominated by old people.
As the us continues to become and older nation, the GOP will only rise in popularity. Marijuana and gay marriage are no longer topics of debate - they are reality, republican candidates say they don't like them but won't do shit about it. The republican stance on abortion and planned parenthood is already weakening greatly

GOP is already evolving. Libtards will always be cucked

>>33663722
>Libtards will always be cucked
gay marriage and marijuana are liberal politics

>>33660108
A TASTY YELLOW BEEF

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>>33662225
>not posting the version with marx

>>33659555
>On June 28th 2009, Honduran soldiers marched into the bedroom of Honduran President Manuel Zelaya while he was in his pajamas and forced him at gunpoint to walk into a waiting jet and exiled him to Costa Rica. Then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton condemned the ouster of the Honduran President as a coup as she called for “the full restoration of democratic order in Honduras.” The “democratic order” Clinton was suggesting was not to restore Zelaya as the legitimate president but a president (or more like a U.S. Puppet) that Washington finds suitable for its interests. Roberto Micheletti replaced Zelaya as an interim president. Micheletti lived in the U.S. (Florida) early in his life.

>Hillary Clinton’s involvement in the overthrow of the democratically elected president of Honduras Manual Zelaya is clear while most of the main-stream media ignores Clinton’s involvement in destroying yet another democracy in Central America by the U.S. government. Central America has experienced U.S. orchestrated coups and civil wars in the past including Guatemala (1954), Costa Rica (mid 1950’’s and 1970-71) and civil wars in Nicaragua (1981-90) and El Salvador (1981-92).

>>33663722
That relies on the fact that a lot of people will become more conservative as they get older. I doubt that that will continue to be the case.

Like I said here >>33662763 , I would be all right with a course of events where the GOP pretty much transformed itself into a more moderate LP in order to attract young voters with out traditional/religious attitudes, but I think the establishment and corporate interests will still turn them away.

>>33663800
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CHEESE

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>>33663647
>be engineering uni dropout turk with a huge beard
>join BW for 7 months on voluntary conscription to BE A MAN and pass some time on the wait to the next semester, also play with guns
>be surrounded by about eighty billion Sonderschule-tier plebeian retards
>if this was America you'd call them Whiskey Tango, in Britian you'd call em Chavs
>mongs keep going on and on about how they banged their gurl at the dumpsters behind the McD's on the weekend, was sick m8 u shoulda seen it
>this fat, dumb as a post idiot in my bunkroom is about 5 foot 3, smokes a pack a day, drinks one and a half liters of energy drink every day, inhales Snickers and leaves the barracks every evening after dinner to stuff himself with Burger King and never works out
>2 and a half months in and I am catching myself doing dumb mistakes and just blindly doing things without thinking
They say when you leave this joint, you get your brain back. But what about the guys who never had any brain to deposit in the first place? They don't need jihadists or SJWs to fuck this place up. The normal staff is dumb enough to manage it by themselves.

>>33663997
Enlisted in the BW are 97% subhuman scum and 3% people earning money for uni.

>>33661848
>>33661896
he's not wrong though.

>>33662037
But seriously, what's Ireland's biggest threat militarily? English irredentists?

>>33662469
It's photo shopped

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>>33664076
The ratio is realistically speaking more like 1:10, which actually makes it worse since that means that there's like one guy every other Stube (bunkroom) who isn't a total dimwit and who is conscious enough to realize the pile of shit he's stuck in, then make attempts to fix it, then fail and despair.

>>33660968
>Loses WWII mainly due to equipment shortages
>Decades later
>Equipment shortages

>>33664219
>1:10
only with Navy and Air Force, most Army guys I've met were borderline retarded.
We have a driver (OSG-> corporal, but basically a private) who has a 12 year contract and never did anything but driving from one barrack to another, he isn't mentally capable of doing more than that and we keep him employed as long as possible out of pity for him.

>>33658531
Our old 40+ year old MiGs are falling appart after ''being serviced'' in Ukraine.

They still reffuse to just buy 5 new jets which is enough to cover our whole territory.

Got ''free'' almost new (2012) helicopters for selling of our old weapon cashes to Jordan.

Got a decent number of well maintained armoured vechicles.

The tank division still runns somewhat.

Marines maintain what we built in the 90-s and early 2000-s.

We got a decent number of Submarines that are most suitable for combat close to the shore.

>>33664315
I'm Heer, PzGren. I know another guy who's SaZ 12 and exactly that fucking dumb. Herr, schmeiß Hirn na, they're so dumb.

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>>33664315
>he isn't mentally capable of doing more than that and we keep him employed as long as possible out of pity for him.

just take him out back and shoot him like an old dumb yeller.

>>33664382
The problem is that we need those people, no intelligent person would work for up to 20 years without a job training

>>33664398
>Bundeswehr
>Having weapons
>Shooting people
Top kek, I don't even carry a gun as Officer of the watch.

>>33664273
>Implying germans want to win the next war

>>33658696
>Why don't the burgers give them more stuff? I read the reason the US refused to lend a hand to the bongs was because all other things considered, Argentina was still their friend.

What?!?!

The US actively aided the UK during that war and was ready to under the table loan them harrier pilots if need be.

>>33660968
We bought around 160 Leo2A4/A6's and recovery vehicles.

>>33664427

>Top kek, I don't even carry a gun as Officer of the watch.

how the fuck does Germany function? Everything rides on Poland and the fucking crazy Baltic states to kill things?

>>33664483
The Bundeswehr has essentially two halves. The conscription machinery and the deployed troops. The deployed troops that go to Kosovo, Afghanistan, Somalia, Mali, or soon into the Baltic states, they get armed to the teeth and operate practically identically to American or British top tier military units. The homezone army, the leftovers from the 1955-2010 conscription crank that just ate up young Germans and turned them through the wringer for about a year or so, then spat them out again, that's basically just a big rotisserie to keep retards warm, fed and happy. I mean, that part of the BW is never actually called upon to do anything (unless the northern coasts get flooded again to deploy some sandbags) because it's fucking ILLEGAL to use them on the inside of the country so the actual performance loss is zero.

The conscription machinery only exists to protect the country in case of invasion, which would be the cause it legally needs to go hog wild. It will never get this cause, because by the time any realistic threat manages to invade (i.e. Russia) the entire country will be a big radioactive dust cloud already.

>>33664483
Under normal conditions people carry weapons, but it doesn't make sense to carry a gun while you are doing your POG job when your personell is carrying guns and it's not like anything is ever going to happen where you need to use a gun.

>>33664533
this sums it up, when deployed you can go fully operator and I'd never walk around in fucking Djibouti without a gun

>>33660067
Afghans are actually hard fighters from what I've heard, but their internal organization is pure shit which leads to inevitable cockups. Could be wrong tho

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>>33664759
Their special forces are hard but the main troops are tied by clan loyalties and "allah wills it" bullshit. If they have a cousin on the opposing side the guy won't attack him and vice versa and heaven forbid if a non-Afghan shoots said cousin.

>>33664759
maybe their spec-ops that are, surprise surprise, trained by foreign advisers. Rank and file afghani soldiers have very poor morale, discipline, and training. There's a reason there are such rampant stories of them hiding or out right looting american barracks when shit goes down