Hang on and hear me out vatniks
Watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBuJcAKKeXw
That's produced by RT
And 11K romp with gear is nothing for selection
The FFL
To complete training, legionnaire trainees must complete the "Combatant's Course" of 8 kilometers (5 mi) loaded with rifle, helmet and 12 kilograms (26 lb) in 40 minutes, and a night march of 25 kilometers (16 mi) in three hours with a load of 18 kilograms (40 lb). Various marches of much longer distances are also a part of training such as the "Kepi" march of 50 km in full combat gear carrying a rifle, helmet and 30 kg load and the "Raid march" of 120 km in full combat gear carrying a rifle, helmet and 30 kg load simulating the navigation to and raiding of different checkpoints in 3 days. Troublemakers are made to place extra rocks in their backpacks for the duration of the marches. Further in the training of a "Caporal" there is a 100 km march which must be completed in 24 hours.
Similarly US Seals, Thai Marines, Brit Marine Commandos, SAS, SBS etc have far far tougher selection.
What gives?
Are spetnatz pussies?
Your average professional in a decent western army regiment would laugh off the Russian SF selection and throw that red beret in the bin as being piss easy?
Anyone here who could not do 11K (8 or so miles) with a weapon and a flack jacket in their prime?
Are the spetsnaz a meme and throwing shovel psyop and really only equivalent to decent nato professional regulars?
They seem no match for western SFS at all.
Absolutely, the SEALs killed OBL by marching 200 km in 24 hours, making them twice as good as spetsnatz
I've done 60km with gear that became 70km because our NCO couldn't navigate.
>>33655200
don't US marines have to do 48 miles of march plus a host of other shit in 54 hours?
>>33655200
Well problem is that they tend to give more training to the conscripts on how to take dick in the butt to become fagots.
>>33655200
Are you sure this isn't the thing you pass to get a chance to actually go into real spetz training?
>>33655533
This.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/8779624/Russian-family-alleges-suicide-conscript-tortured-to-death.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7425694.stm
https://www.hrw.org/reports/2004/russia1004/6.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYfreaxSDZw
All Russian soldiers know is how to take a beating and dick in the ass.
>>33655562
Well the problem is that we have actual sources on HIV spread, drug usage and homosexuality in the russian military seeing how all the russian women want foreign men because all the russian men are either homos or limp dicked.
>>33655200
The only thing spetsnaz is good at killing is unarmed civilians. They're really, really good at that, though.
>>33655493
There is a 25k at the End of the cycle in The School Of Infantry, but ive gone farther with more gear just training in the Fleet.
>>33655590
toppest kek. Basic trained Marines have much more rigorous training than russian special forces.
>>33655200
Aren't there different levels of Spetsnaz? Like literally from federal police swat to borderline delta level?
>>33655629
It's kind of like do you want just the tip or full of balls touching
>>33655603
When i Joined in 2011 the Budget was booming so we did a fuck ton of CQB, Raiding, Recon exc... Not to perpetuate the Hurr Durr Marines are the best, but we are arguably the best Light Infantryman in the world
>>33655661
There is the Alfa group who is always on top when penetrating the conscript. Then there is Vympel who does bottom bitch then there is Smerch who does BSDM
>>33655200
Spetsnaz is a pretty broad term, they can be military or police and they range from lowly border guards to high speed low drag KSO/SSO and GRU spooks.
They're not inherently "SF".
Spetsnaz literally means special purpose.
>>33655200
>Internal Troops must run more than NAVY SEALS
>>33655539
>Are you sure this isn't the thing you pass to get a chance to actually go into real spetz training?
Nope they get their beret for this shit.
>>33655740
LOL
We did 8 Mile runs weekly with gear for fucking RAF reserve status.
This red beret shit is a sad joke.
>>33655715
>Spetsnaz is a pretty broad term, they can be military or police and they range from lowly border guards to high speed low drag KSO/SSO and GRU spooks.They're not inherently "SF".Spetsnaz literally means special purpose.
Their selection is fucking beginner level.
I guess they could give them some nades and fire them from rubber sling shots at cruise missiles. The brit paras, marines or ffl would eat them alive. Literally eat them.
Is anything vatnik not bullshit?
>>33655869
So the training camps would just throw red berets to anyone who shows up and complete it.
why russians are so fucking weak.
>>33655894
8 miles 1-2 times weekly is pretty much what co mmon VDV do
>>33655933
>Their selection is fucking beginner level.
Are you retarded? Can you read? What part about the whole broad term thing don't you get? Is SWAT selection the same as CAG?
>>33656065
Okay so Russian airborn forces are doing the same runs as fucking RAF Reservists. Good to know
>>33655200
If anyone cares those are MVD Spetsnaz, so police dicks.
>>33655200
>Similarly US Seals, Thai Marines, Brit Marine Commandos, SAS, SBS etc have far far tougher selection.
Red Berets are National Guard. Former Internal troops. Those are police units, not army. SWAT, riot police, e.t.c.
>>33655574
Is Spetsnaz the katana of special forces?
>>33657459
>Looks cool.
>Beloved by slavboos.
> Shatters on contact with a real opponent.
Pretty much.