Triggering edition
/gq/ approved IFAK(Medical) guide
*NEW NEW NEW*
https://pastebin.com/LMC5BWED
/gq/ approved LBE + IFAK + More
http://pastebin.com/8wjMuz3w
/k/ holster list
http://pastebin.com/4mi0WzZH
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>>33653257
please tell me you weren't dumb enough to drop 1000 on a couple pairs of trousers.
School shooter memes aside, I was considering just getting a well made greatcoat or trenchcoat as outerwear for when mild/wet environments. Think it may work for a greyman setup?
>>33654211
Looks good
>>33654149
>1000
Don't be ridiculous. Anon was kind enough to knock it down to only $500+ for pants.
>>33654149
No, I dropped way more on a lot more than a couple, going to skate out with about 2k profit.
Anyone know what these are?
>>33654433
Is there a tag anywhere?
>>33654433
>>33654438
I asked, no response yet. It looks like a smoke green paraclete something, just don't know what model.
>>33654433
That's a Gen 1 Diamondback Tactical Predator armor carrier (ranger green) with what looks to be assorted DBT pouches.
>>33654500
pretty sure it's not paraclete, more likely its DBT or something
The 'clete RMV/RAVs don't have rectangular velcro at the top chest area, it's cut to angles where they meet the shoulders.
>>33654565
>>33654433
there now you have been told twice.
>>33654211
If by grey man you mean you don't stand out in any way, I'd suggest clothing that doesn't stand out in any way. Great- and trenchcoats look like, as you just indicated, something school shooters wear.
>>33654211
>Is [piece of conspicuous clothing] greyman?
Ever time. You guys trying to be the greymen of the world manage to both over and under think how to pick out clothes.
>>33654211
grey man means jeans and a tshirt. it means you blend in with everyone around you. it means you dont fucking wear military boots and 5.11 pants and fucking great coats in public.
>>33654211
In a coat like this you'd look like you enjoy butt stuff, which is a different kind of grey man's activity
Shitty mobile pics edition is my favorite
>>33655947
>>33655957
Pta-bravo high cut helmet any good for pvs-14 mountage? Got one on order, already got a notoros shroud, rhino 2 swingarm, and ops core chinstrap. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated
FYI SKD is having a 10.4% off sale this weekend and Slicksters are back in stock. What you do with this info is up to you :^)
Would /gq/ be interested in a massive info dump? I kind of did one a few threads ago but my shit was unorganized. I've since organized it nd sorted stuff that is relevant to /gq/ (about 100 files worth).
Recommend me an entry-level plate carrier that isn't garbage.
I have no idea where to look for reliable stuff like this, and all Amazon wants to sell me is cheap shit.
>>33657173
Yep, go for it
>>33657252
Read the pastebin, there aren't really entry level carriers, it's buying quality that counts
>>33657252
Beez combat has a SAPI plate carrier that can be had for $117 if you choose a solid color option and 4" shoulder pads.
>>33653257
wew lads
Alright hold on to your dicks lads, the dump begins NOW.
First on my series of dumps will be gear related shit.
>>33657304
>>33657265
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>>33657315
>all them brands
Yeah this is what I'm looking for. Thanks guys.
>>33657304
**avoid
AR500
>>33657315
i just put together a new rig. I took some stuff off my main alice rig and bought some pouches.
the belt isnt a 1956 pattern but the straps and pouches are. basically it;s a vietnam rig.
i need to get some older canteen pouches and shit.
>>33657336
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>>33657391
Saved. Thanks m8
>>33657391
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>>33657468
I apologize for the small font of this image but I couldn't find a larger version that shows all components of the system.
>>33657478
Here's a better image of the gear.
>>33657486
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>>33657512
Now dumping food stuff. There's only a few files so this one will be short.
>>33657522
I'd advise against packing non-perishable food for your rations in spite of what this image says.
>>33657533
>>33657542
Last one for food, next up is weapon and marksmanship related stuff.
>>33657554
These are mostly for AK's and AR's, but there's a Glock lube guide too.
>>33657563
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>>33657613
Please note that the following guides are outdated and may contain errors and duplicate information.
>>33657633
>>33657633
make your own thread to dump this shit man. half of this doesnt even apply to gear
>>33657642
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>>33657712
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>>33657633
Yeah dude, a bunch of this stuff belongs somewhere else.
On another note, ordered a new broadband antenna, some comms cables, and a new ptt.
>>33657739
>>33657754
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>>33657752
can you teach me more about comms? how much would i be looking at and what is the point of a 152. does the one you have have encryption ?
>>33657779
>>33657805
>>33657633
Hey! You stupid nigger! Did you hear him?!! Dump this shit somewhere else!!
>>33657814
ahahahahaha gear thread can't bully a single shitposter into submission
>>33657826
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>>33657847
>>33657861
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>>33657899
These are cool and I'm saving them, but they're not really related to the thread.
>>33657920
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>>33657946
Postin' comms stuff now.
>>33657957
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>>33658013
Now for medical!
>>33657533
This is asinine. You want high sodium for strenuous activity.
Pissing, and sweat are the primary ways your body is losing salt. The salt is essential for your body to retain water, and not instantly piss it out. That's why products like Gatorade and other sports drinks exist.
There are multiple accounts of runners getting fucked up despite drinking non-stop water because they had no salt in their system.
>>33658025
>>33658029
this
Not sure if I'm a fan of all these half baked guides. I'm fine with guidelines and "how to get started" stuff but actual attempts at guides are far too simplistic, have too many holes and should never be a substitute for actual training or classes so imo shouldn't even be posted because then anon's might think they know how to use their IFAK contents now with a picture guide and then fuck up seriously.
Yeah most of this shit has been posted before in plenty of other threads, only only a few are gear related
>>33657601
you don't oil an ar15 firing pin
>>33658038
Ignore the consumption table on this, I don't expect you to carry 12+ liters of water on your kit, nor drink 1.5 quarts of water an hour for 12 hours
>>33658097
thank god no one cares what you expect
>>33655969
What earmuffs are these?
>>33658097
A few hand to hand combat ones next.
>>33658153
>fug
>>33658164
Shelter tips next. Most of these are for tarps/ponchos because that's what I use when camping.
>>33658177
>>33658190
>>33658203
The Eagle CIRAS shoulder pads should work on a BAE Eclipse RBAV, right?
>>33658138
Look like Comtac XPIs or XPs
>>33658217
The RBAV's shoulder pads are pretty small, but they still should fit.
>>33658298
THese are the ones Im looking at.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eagle-Industries-CIRAS-Removable-Shoulder-Pads-SET-NEW-KHAKI-MLCS-RSP-MAR-MS-KH-/221792824689?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275
You think these will work?
>>33654211
It depends, do people wear greatcoats or trenchcoats where you live?
Greyman means blending in. Just wear a regular jacket.
>>33657355
>using alice
>ever
Have fun getting killed. There's a reason they replaced that shit you know.
>>33657554
I've done that recipe a dozen times. Taste isn't bad, but it can be a bitch to cut and store tightly.
>>33658309
After reading the dimensions, it looks like they should work. Please use the picture that I have posted for reference.
>>33658213
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>>33658399
>>33658372
thanks dog
>>33658408
>>33658415
>>33658322
>implying that is an alice rig
get out of my thread you uneducated fucking swine.
>>33658429
And now for camouflage followed by other tidpits of info.
>>33658439
>>33658460
>goddamnit
>>33658466
This map is highly subjective and I recommend you test out various camo patterns with your specific area instead going off this solely.
>>33658475
Gorka sizing info!
>>33658481
And lastly a DIY claymore because fuckithynot
>>33658532
>lastly
thank fucking christ.
>>33658532
Why nails? They have terrible aerodynamics, and they won't even penetrate if the wrong end hits you.
Real claymores are filled with ball bearings. You can get 1000 of them for like $10.
>>33658532
haha wow thanks i really learned a lot pls dump em all again next thread for anyone that missed it
>>33658564
I'm going to put together a poorfag guide next time that follows 1st, 2nd, and 3rd line gear type format. I may work on a newbie guide to gear and tactics in the future too.
>>33657522
literally the only food neckbeards can think of is ramen and crackers
>>33655969
Any tips on getting those peltor arc adapters to stay engaged? Mine keep popping out if I move my head in different ways.
>>33658638
If you have other suggestions for cheap, non-perishable food that isn't in a huge can I'd love to hear it.
>>33657832
He was given permission by a senior officer..
>>33658025
this is some outdated bullshit
whoever made this needs to read the TCCC guidelines instead of assuming whatever half-assed trauma training they got as an EMT is what is relevant in combat.
>>33658711
mountain house freeze dried meals are four dollars
More boxes
>Tfw stupid infograph dump killed the thread
>>33661326
Then just revive it.
>>33661326
yeah, i tried to tell him to fuck off. he has done this before a few times.
>>33660794
did you take any other pictures of you wearing it?
>>33661361
would that plate carrier be worth the money if you couldnt brag about it?
>>33661397
The only PC worth bragging about would be a LV-MBAV in AOR1.
>>33661397
I'd say so, yeah. It's pretty damn comfortable, and I enjoy the inner/outer cummerbund system that allows belt-mounted style accessories on the inside and regular 3-loop MOLLE on the outside. It also breathes really well so at the end of the day you're not in a pool of sweat, just a puddle.
>>33658704
Are you sure they are real? I know fake adapters have a tendency to be loose. If not then maybe look into tightning them.
>tfw you don't have enough molle pouches and must sully your beautiful rig with ratty old alice pouches
why does god abandon us
>>33661403
Nonexistent. And plenty of carriers can be bragged about. Anything original manufacturer in AOR1.
>>33661509
I know, but it sure would be kek worthy if it did.
>>33661503
What pouches are you looking for?
I honestly just buy actual scrapped military gear for dirt-cheap, like a mich 2000 without any visible problems for 30€ and a whole perfect fit BW suit for the same price. The only thing I went all-out are my boots.
>>33661539
One AR mag pouch and one butt pack, in M81 woodland.
Now for weeks of waiting
Do airframes feel as large on your head as some people make it out to be?
I like the idea of having the extra airflow and I'd love to totally fag out and get the cheek pieces, but if its really as bulky as some say I'll reconsider
>>33661725
But why, ceramics actually cost less than that
>>33662206
He's not very smart. He jumped into all this without lurking hard for 6 months:
I need to get started on May, what is the current meme gear? AOR1 6094s?
>>33663038
more or less yeah
>>33661725
>paying 250 dollaridoos for a Warrior DCS
i sincerely hope it's the version with all the pouches included or you got ripped off.
https://www.uktactical.com/p-6360-warrior-dcs-plate-carrier-base-coyote-tan.aspx they also go on sale often with 10/20% off here so the price is even lower.
Can anyone tell me what this plate carrier is? Thanks for the help.
>>33663924
>Sensible Copperator/10
>>33662206
Ceramics were looking about $150 more per plate and with the anti spalding coating and the material of the carrier and the mags that will cover most of the plate. I feel secure enough that the plates will be adequate.
>>33663703
The cost and lead time to get it across the pond to Freedomland is not worth the price difference. Plus if you look at the total you'll see I got 15% off.
>>33664174
450 dollars for 1 ceramic plate? am I missing something here? How?
>>33661518
the eagle industries tiger stripe MPCRs are pretty cool
>>33663038
just sold my aor1 6094
>>33664293
How much for?
>>33664230
https://www.spartanarmorsystems.com/level-iii-spartan-ceramic-composite-armor/
Steel are about $150, ceramics are about $300. The figure you see in the shopping cart is a set of two.
>>33653257
Hey bras
I don't want to make a whole thread for one question so here goes this
What fucking weapon is this?
Not a minesweeper is it? Captured from stock al-jazeera afghanistan footage.
>>33664944
look like a mine detector to me
>>33654343
Good. Collect the hot weather version for yourself, as they are even more comfortable.
>>33654878
This. Wear what everyone else in your AO wears. Look like an ordinary working stiff and save the cosplay for gaysecks or if SHTF and ya help organize a militia.
>>33663038
Multicam black
>>33658097
If you are in seriously hot weather have a way to bring more water. Never forget the wonderful invention called the bicycle. They greatly increase your cargo capacity.
>>33665498
Of course the Swiss did it best:
http://www.bikeshophub.com/blog/2017/02/27/the-swiss-army-bicycle-did-all-that-and-more/
>>33664919
Why wouldn't you just buy a cheaper carrier and get ceramics? or if you can't afford it, save up longer or buy one at a time.
>>33664174
>>33665639
>>33665651
Because I am not entirely convinced ceramics is superior enough to warrant the price difference. With the antispalding coating the primary reason you get ceramics over steel is pretty much matched. Plus then you end up with a plate that stands up better to multiple hits.
>>33665665
Do me a favor, and google "antispalding" and tell me what you get.
>>33665708
A lot of short stake porn but I think that might have more to do with my google history then the phrase.
>Full Coat Frag Mitigation Coating
Fine here is the long winded way of saying antispalding.
So... What's the big difference between LBT and LBX gear? I just discovered the second one, and they seem to be different marks from the same company?
>>33665708
>>33665651
>>33665639
>>33662206
>>33663008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB6k2-0nnzo
That coating on the front captures any fragmentation and keeps it contained so even if the bullet breaks up on hitting the plate it isn't flying outwards.
>>33653257
What kind of pants are these that people will pay $500+ for them? I don't gear queer.
>>33665819
they are drifire cryes in woodland camo. you can't buy them without a .mil adress and you have to wait in line for crye to make them. They are only made to order for marsoc and shit and nearly impossible to get as a normalfag
Can someone explain about the Crye style pants people were talking about last thread? Whos making them, what level of quality will they be and whats the anticipated price?
>>33665834
which ones the tiger stripe ones from cantatical? trllz is having them made. They are pretty much exact copies of cryes made of non super gucci fire proof materials
>>33665819
They're Crye-cut Drifire pants in M81 Woodland, MARSOC style. The price is driven up because airsofters and collectors want what their favorite special operations dudes wear and because they're not commercially available regularly like normal Cryes are. OP was able to pull some strings and buy some wholesale or something like that, and he is just moving them. He offered them here at cost for the memes and intends to sell the rest at inflated prices to airsoft LARPers (likely in Hong Kong and Japan).
>>33665725
You obviously didn't google antispalding because it would have came up as basketball equipment, because there is no such thing as antispalding. It's anti spalling. Spall is the chunks of metal that go flying when a larger piece of accelerated metal disintegrates.
Your saying that the ANTISPALLING coat(which is just a thin layer of lineX or any truck bed liner) on steel, combined with its multi hit capabilities makes it better per cost than ceramics. But what you are not thinking about is the fact that every time that plate gets hit, it's taking off that coating. And I'm sorry to tell you that 500d or 1000d, whatever your pouches are made of, probably won't stop bits of metal that are flying possibly at 1000 fps. You will see this argument every forum you go to, that has anything to do with armor, and we will continue to see this back and forth of "steel is heavy, spalling will fuck you up" vs "it's cheap and has antispalling layer" that's because no one who actually has a real possibility of getting shot will use steel. That's because ceramics are proven and make since in the real world. Ceramics can take multiple hits as well, you can see it in plenty of YouTube videos, but there are two big differences. Ceramics won't send shards of copper jacket and lead every where, and they actually absorb a lot of the bullets energy. Steel will spall(eventually, even with coating) and it will transfer a lot more of the energy to the wearer.
I've watched you post for about the past week, and if you value your money at all, and want to have an affordable setup, that is quality and actually works well, then I suggest you cancel your order and lurk here longer and ask more productive and well thought out questions. If you just want plates and a place to put mags, have fun, run around your house and feel cool, then by all means, throw them plates in and get to it. But if you post your shit in here then, don't b butthurt when everyone tells you how retarded your shit is
>>33665868
So whats the difference between standard M81 Woodlands and the standard production Crye ones?
>>33665866
Yeah, sorry I stupidly forgot to mention they were the tiger stripe ones. So when is the ETA and whats the anticipated price?
>>33665781
He even says on the first shots that it had broke the coating. Standing 8 feet in front of a plate and wearing it are two totally different things
>>33665988
i dont know when the ETA is but they should open for ordering soon. but they are usually around 130 for a pair
>>33665977
These ones are made with Drifire fire-resistant material and are in M81 Woodland. Otherwise, they are identical to the standard Crye ones. Like I said, the price is driven up by collectors and airsofters who want them because they're not standard production, but just made on special order for MARSOC. The AOR1 versions are basically the same way as this, except it is SEAL fans that want them.
>>33666102
Holy shit thats sad. People will actually pay double the price so they get fire resistant pants will a marginally different color scheme? I thought the basic Crye woodlands were M81 as it is?
>>33666376
It's really no different than collectors paying hundreds of dollars more for a Korean War capture Nork Tokarev than for a Romanian import, or than collectors paying thousands upon thousands of dollars for a shitty Trejo .22LR machine pistol from Mexico when they can get an American-made MAC that is significantly more reliable for thousands of dollars less. They just want the rare things.
>>33657355
nice
stitck your adjustables that's what sewing kits are for
put elastic cord or nbc tape around those pouches so they don't rattle and use 1/2 inct slips of nbc take to tie down loose ends and double around adjusted shoulder webbing.
Take a coat hander and start adding weight
it should balance perfectly left to right
>>33665934
>spalling
Well now I feel silly. Someone mentioned 'spalding 'in here and I just assumed that was the correct term for it.
Thanks for the information but I will retain the steel plates. I've watched quite a few videos and the anti-spalling coating seems to contain the fragments. Any time chunks of it are taken out it the pieces are still captured going to the sides. I don't mind if some fragments bounce back forward. The energy transfer is a legitimate concern but I don't mind some bruising to save $300.
>>33666496
>bruising
You are going to get bruised most likely with ceramics. My concerns with steel energy transfer is directed more at breaking a rib and puncturing a lung and possibly stopping your heart.
No one minds the steel spall bouncing back at the shooter, it's the metal that goes up and down. As I said, in the vid you posted, right after he fired the first couple shots, they had already broke the coating. If you watch slow motion videos of bullets hitting steel, you will see the bullet fragments and creates a ring of spall that goes up, down and both sides. Will the coating stop that first from spalling? Very much probably will. Will is top the second? Most likely. After that, if it hits near the previous hits where the lining was broke, then it's lost a lot of that protection, and it's not guaranteed to stop all the spall any of those times. Watch a vid of bullets hitting steel and it will really make you think.
The reason you saw someone say spalding is because it's a running joke. Because atleast once a month someone comes in here who has done their "research" for a couple weeks and the "know" lineX coated steel is the best thing for them to get in their price range. Sometimes they get convinced that they are wrong(because, trust me, they are) and decide against it, or they refuse to listen, or they don't get anything and knew in their hearts of hearts they weren't anyway because they couldn't afford it anyway.
Ceramics can take a lot more shit than people act and think they can. It's not fragile porcelain. There is a real reason that no professionals use steels.
>>33666462
that's neat but i'm not going to do any mods on this one. I will use my more modern alice gear for that shit.
>>33666376
There is no such thing as basic crye woodlands, that's the kicker. The only way to get crye in the M81/woodland pattern is the Cryefires, or chasing down the pre-drifire Crye ACs/G3s in 50/50 ripstop, which are far rarer.
>>33664919
are you retarded? Should have asked here, you can get Hesco ceramics for like $170
>>33665781
You know I thought we had overcome this, but leave it to anime posters to ruin shit
I've shot steel with truck bed liner (spall protection) that had cardboard above it. The cardboard was full of spall after a few shots.
>>33666774
I don't think this guy is going to change his mind because he clearly already invested his ego but thanks for fighting the good fight. We need to stop the steel meme from continuing.
>>33669269
I'm givin her all she's got, captain
>>33669809
New.
Don't shit this one up.
is there a ghille suit guide that doesn't involve going neolithic and submerging myself in a scum pond five times?