Milsurp 2; The winter Milsurp

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All numbers I can find match. And the bore is pretty great, though dark.

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Just needs a good cleaning. Plenty of grease and some sand in it. But we all know that's to be expected.

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>>33652578
And best of all, it's either pre-WW1 or right during the initial conflict, because it's a 1914. Can't tell if that's a Serbian eagle or a Russian eagle on the receiver though.

>>33652532
I have been getting a supply of Korean M2 Ball from an LGS, found 8 rounds of PS in one of the cans I got, rest was KA or USGI. Anyone know what years PS ammo was shit and when it was okay?

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>>33652590
Should be Russian, the II underneath wouldn't make sense for Serbia since their monarch was Peter I not Peter II. Just a guess, nice find!

>>33652764
As with many, many, many things, I am not an expert on Mosin markings. But if it's a Russian than that makes it all the better, because I only paid $225, which is less than a refurb 91/30 these days.

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I've got a Yugo Mauser that is sitting in the post office that's literally across the street from the pawn shop it's being sent too.

The anxiety is killing me

>>33653043
And it's a holiday weekend...

I feel you though chief. The wait is the hardest part of buying surp.

>no guns show around this weekend

JUST

>>33653061
The pawn shop closes in 4 hours so I hope it gets going soon

>>33653125
Don't count on it boss, it's Easter weekend.

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>guy selling gun on gunbroker
>good price but no one bidding oddly enough
>uses only paypal for payment and shipment is called 'other'

should I be worried? this would be a good deal but that combination of paypal and non-standard shipping scares me.

>>33653439
Do they have feedback? Other auctions?

>>33653472

they do have feedback on 1 item they sold saying it was clean and easy and he did reply to me about the conditions of the barrel and import marks.

>>33653439
the ljungman?

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>>33653531

nah it's an arisaka all matching with a very good mum for 400 bucks.

>tfw I spilt the beans and now someone will grab it

>>33653589
not me I hate gooks and their rifles are shit tier anyway.

>tfw we didnt nuke them 50 times and erase those godforsaken islands off the earth

>>33653589
The one in Colorado? I'm pretty sure I've seen the same arisaka on armslist for the last few months, idk why no one's going for it.

>>33653703

yeah I honestly don't understand. the rifle is in great condition and isn't a last ditch.

>>33653694
>Arisaka
>Shit
Ok there bud.

>>33653805
t. fawning over a nugget

>>33653722
I was thinking of getting it, but I need to save money so I'll leave it to you. There's only a few hours left so hopefully no one else finds it.

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>>33653816
I like my Mosins, no doubt. But fawning? Na, I have much nicer stuff.

>>33653854
Fug I'm jelly

>>33653439
PayPal is almost always gtg. People ain't gonna scam you and ruin their social security numbers

>>33653859
I actually saw one at the gun show I went to today.

For $3000.

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Just bought pic related a couple months ago and decided I want something else in 8mm. I see a lot of Turkish and Yugo mausers for relatively cheap, so which should I get and what should I be looking for?

>>33654506
you could find a czech mauser for relatively cheap. Im pretty certain a lot of those were in 8mm

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>>33654506
Czech and Turkish Mausers are cheap.
You can get a FN49 if you want another semi auto, they're still fairly affordable.
I wouldn't run the current surplus ammo through a Hakim though.

Oh and the hidden gem of the current surplus market, the Gew 88.

Is at acceptable to rub linseed oil into the stock of surplus guns?

I'm not planning to strip them down to bare wood or anything. I've just noticed that the finish has come off of a few locations, particularly where my hands were.

>>33654681
That depends if you are autistic or not. I think its fine but some people here will be quite if you were to

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>>33654681
No. Oil finishes don't come off like that. There are pieces of furniture that are over 600 years old with their original finish intact. You also ruin the beautiful patina you get from the oil oxidizing. That's why older stock finishes tend to have a reddish tint to it.

>>33654681
It's your gun chief, but I advise against it. A damp rag followed by a dry one is the best cleaning and preservative tool you can use on the old wood.

>>33654525
>>33654571
Thanks, I'd forgotten about the FN49

>>33654681
Standard procedure for armies was to rub oil into the stock.
The English were issued two ounces of raw linseed oil per year for this.

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>>33654506
Russian capture K98s are better and not that expensive.

Also the Romanian steel case with the "SADU 13" head stamp has been giving me nothing but problems in my hakim if you see it avoid it.

>>33654882
russian captures are getting pretty expensive 2bh. I mean bottom dollar is like $500 and good luck finding one for that.

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>>33653146
Of course the gun arrives to the pawn shop 30 min before they close and I'm 40min away at my buddies place
Feels badman

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>>33655028
Sorry man. At least you only have to wait until Monday.

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>>33654873
Just because a military did something doesn't make it the best way to PRESERVE it. The military doesn't care to preserve the look of a stock. They don't care about how original a finish is. They don't care if the gun/part even lasts. What preserves wood is actually the environment it's in, not the finish. In fact, contrary what some may suggest, the stock oil doesn't add moisture to the stock to keep it from drying out, it's to keep excess moisture from getting in.

>>33655135
>allowing a Arisaka that nice to balance on it's monopod

Was your heart racing as you took the photo?

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>>33652532
>Look what I just got.
Look at what I DIDN'T just get:
https://www.proxibid.com/aspr/WWI-G98-w-Sawback-Bayonet/35391829/LotDetail.asp?lid=35391829
Had Czechoslovak Army markings on the receiver ring, and what looks like a Einwohnerwehr Bayern Freikorps property mark on the stock. Also that neat ersatz SG.98/05. I'd have bid higher but they couldn't tell me if the stock was matching (bolt was not), and I'm certain it's been to Turkey since it has a Turkish lower barrel band, and Turkey is where most of the Czech-used Gew.98s were sold to. Still, if that stock was original it means it served in the German Army, a Freikorps unit, the Czech Army, and then the Turkish Army.

>>33652590
>1914
Good year. Eagle looks Russian to me.

>>33653043
Happy Mauser Da— >>33655028 .

Bummer.

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>>33655242
Nah, not really. One you get it balanced right it stays up pretty easily.

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Anything look.. peculiar about this handguard? Anything at all.

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I just found this 1952 Polish M44 at some little pawn shop. I bought it for $275, it came with a cleaning kit and all matching parts. feels good.

>>33655355
>>33655355
its been repaired from a fairly serious crack at some point. They did a pretty good job though.

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What are some good sites for buying milsurp?

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>>33655402
dawwwww

You can see the crack slightly still. I couldn't sand it for obvious urushi damage converns.

>>33655431
Gunbroker
Simpson's
Liberty Tree
Most dedicated or local forums.

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Anyone have experience buying a Luger through Simpson Ltd? Im in the market for a nice shooter and was wondering if they were the go-to guys or if maybe there were better deals to be had elsewhere.

>>33655442
Thanks, but already aware of all of those. Had one or two others that I had links open to, and was considering their guns, but lost the links when i cleared my cache.

>>33655452
Simpson is always has them but they are expensive not gonna get a deal there. Was at my lgs the other day and they had one for 1k. I looked at it and I think someone built it with extra parts. Not a single number matched and the wear was not even.

>>33655452
I've used them for a couple other guns. They were good about shipping, the prices are fair but high. They are a little forgetful sometimes, so it helps to have a conversation with the sales man. I made the mistake of rushing the conversation and they forgot part of one of my orders, but did rectify the issue in good time.

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So I have a springfield m1903 made in 1930, that would mean its an A1 and should use the C type stock like in this picture right?

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>>33655584
Very few M1903s were "converted" to an A1 with the C stock. They had so many stock blanks for the straight stocks so really only national match rifles and later sniper rifles got C stocks.

For your viewing pleasure, an M1903A2.

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>>33655630

Thanks for the info

More googling revealed a more in depth guide

I suppose I need a type 5 stock which this appears to be?

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>>33652590
>>33652578
>>33652561
>>33652532

Where'd you get it? Empirearms? If so, I'm the anon that pointed you there once when you mentioned looking for a non Finn'd M91, when you were looking at pics of my M91.

>>33655699
Why aren't you using the stock you already have? I really loathe the section of US rifle collectors who love to switch parts around to make things "correct."

>>33655363
Get a bayonet with that?

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>>33654882
What's a good baseline price for a Hakim in good shape?

>>33655993
7-800

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>>33655953
He's got a bayonet on it boss.

well fuck I ain't winning it

1939 mas 36 all matching except bayonet:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Item/634756912

>>33656119
That's still a great price. I'd pick it up for trading stock if I hadn't got my Mosin.

>>33656139

I know but I was really hoping to snag the thing since no one was bidding.

but no the moment I bidded another dude came and swooped in.

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>>33655926

I'm just trying to get it to look like an m1903 man

with the sporter stock it looks really generic, besides its cracked and if i'm going to buy a new one why not find an original?

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>>33656119
>MAS 1939
It's weird how people can't put the time any money into actually spelling and/or calling it the right name when they want money for it.

>>33656173
That happens.

It's also not a "pre-war" rifle since it was accepted in December of 1939.
>>33656217
Kinda pointless when it's been drilled and tapped for that sight which may or may not have require inletting the stock some.

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>>33656217
>tapped receiver

Not worth the effort or cost to restore.

And i know something about pointless restores.

>>33656295
>>33656290

Removing the sight and adding the rear ladder back, I don't mind the hole.

Won't be as valuable but I don't intend to sell the thing.

>>33656290
>>33656295
Not that anon, but one day I'd like to take a badly bubba'd rifle and make a new, original looking stock for it. I know it'd be financially pointless but I'd have fun

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Anyone here know how I could get my MAS 49/56s handguard to stop wobbling?

When I first got it it had a little bit of play. It's gotten worse after each time I've shot it.

>>33656400
Is the screw loose on the band?

>>33656424
Slightly. I should say the lower handguard shifts forward and back. That'd be more accurate in terms of the movement.

>>33656290
>>33656295

man now you guys have me all self conscious, are two small holes in the receiver really that damaging? does it mess with the gun's functionality or anything?

>>33656756
The only thing it effect negatively is the value of the gun.

>>33656790

but at the end of the day the gun will be worth as much as the parts right? it's not like I'd be spending any extra money

Say I decide to sell it, I could sell the stock, bolt, etc

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My newest addition to the family.

>>33656833
nice pinecone

>>33656852
It is a pretty nice one, isn't it? Very aesthetic.

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Picked both of these up within the last seven or so months. The Enfield's wood has seen better days, but it shoots like a champ.

I probably over-paid for the Mosin at 230$, but she was too pretty too pass up. All numbers matching and the wood is beautiful.

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for those of you wanting a possibly "cheap" Russian Winchester 1895:

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/635103350

this one is still under 3k with 2 days left.

>tfw I didn't win that mas 36 from 1939

>>33656341
I don't think you understand the price here.

Just start looking at stock prices and rear sights (collars)

You could half ass it with remshit parts, but then you don't have a 1903 but a bastardized a1

>>33656813
Not really. At best you're lucky to get what you paid into it, but in reality it's a hard sell. It really doesn't make much sense to "restore" anything. Buy proper pieces.

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>>33656903
>le grey blanket seller
You should look him up. He can regularly magically get 2, 3, 4 or even 5 times what a piece is worth. And that's without talking about all the fakes he sells.
>another one of his auctions

>>33656907

I did, I've already ordered the rear sight collar, 50 bucks, stock looks to be 200 to 300 for a complete one

paid 300 for a gun

complete 1903s I could find were around 1200 (though to be fair that was at a gun show)

Basically what I'm saying is I can't afford an original, so I'm trying to get one that's close enough

>>33656942

WEW LAD

well nevermind boys fuck that guy

>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/638117162

>german capture m95
>eagle marking on stock and side of receiver

is this faked? I didn't know the germans were still using m95s in their reserves in WW2.

>>33656341
nothing wrong with a 1903 with remington parts.
a rebuild springfield could end up with remington parts...

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>>33656813
>but at the end of the day the gun will be worth as much as the parts right?
No. Just like a car isn't as valuable as the parts it's comprised of often.

>>33657060

But they are

If I a classic car with a valuable part in good condition, that valuable part will be valuable as long as its in good condition, if it was on a shitty example of a classic or otherwise

If I have a 300 dollar stock, how would i lose value by putting it on a drilled receiver? Because unless I damage the stock, I can remove it and still sell the stock

>>33657029
Na they had tons on hand during WW2. I wouldn't call them captured but whatever, they were definitely in the German supply chain throughout the war.

>>33657090
The rifle as a whole will not be worth as much as you put into it. The individual parts you may not lose value on, but that's a risk. You certainly won't gain money on them.

>>33657029
Yes, it's a fake. A poor one at that. Only guns made in German controlled factories had Waffenamts. There may be Hza eagle stamps (Heeres Zeugamt, or Army Depot Office) on captured arms that were refurbished, but certainly most got nothing.

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>>33657029
>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/638117162
Fake as fuck; Steyr M.95s would not have Waffenamts because they weren't new firearms. At best you might find one with a Heereszugament ("HZa" or "Army Ordinance Depot) inspection mark, showing that it had been inspected by a German armorer but WaffenAmts are only found on new-production weapons and/or components.

>>33657117

That's what I'm trying to convey, I'm not trying to gain money, I just want an original looking m1903

>>33657122
>>33657124
Muh Hivemind!
>>33657127
What we're saying is that it's not worth it. If you want a correct M1903, buy a correct M1903. You can't make a turd be anything less than a turd. You could probably sell the bubba'd M1903 to someone easily because it's in .30-06 and some people like those types of rear sights.

>>33657124
>>33657122


thanks for saving me from a dumb decision boys.

the marks are neat but that jacked up price is bullshit.

>>33657149

I can't afford one tho

I mean I guess I probably could but I don't know if I want to drop more than a grand on a sexy mauser knock off

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>>33657127
Your cheapest option is still going to be buying one. If you want a project or fancy yourself a historical necromancer of sorts that's fine and dandy. But money wise you are making a poor decision.

>>33657169
You can still find M1903s for $600-$700 if you look right. You'll be about half that to "restore" what you have.

>>33657187

Care to post some resources? Because I'll buy one right now if I can find it for 600 dollars

>>33657117
most milsurp guns are worth more as parts than together as a gun

>>33657224
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/637935334

Not quite 600 but I also haven't finished looking.

anyone got a belgium mauser?

I found a nice one at my lgs for like 900 bones

What do you guys use for your C&R log book? I kind of want something nicer than a composition notebook

>>33657368
A 1889? That's a good price. Last one I saw sold for $1400.

>>33657385
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CAT38KC/

I use this one.

>>33657346

That's a bid though, with 5 days left, also the bolt is wrong

I will keep an eye on it though, thank you

>>33657394
I didnt even think to see if theyre premade ones. That saves a bunch of time

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>>33655998
I believe the lgs that has it doesn't know what it's worth. They want mid $500s for it but it's on their "$50 off anything on this rack" shelf. I might even be able to talk them down a bit

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Nice looking Type 30 for anyone interested. These guys always get a lot of interesting Arisakas.

>>33657691

how much senpai?

>>33657691
What, where?

>>33657660
Same to you

>>33657691
give me a Mexican

>>33657691
Dumbass.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/636393009

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>>33652590
Nice 1914 Tula, I got an 1914 Izhevsk Balkan capture

>>33657734
rofl. hiding the SN on a nugget

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>>33657734
Not sure if true or not, but it might be in an American made stock. The wood is really dark and almost looks like Walnut.

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>>33657368
>anyone got a belgium mauser?
Need to know the model and manufacturer. There are a lot of them, made for domestic contract and export.

>mas 36 with a cutout for a safety added

how much does this fuck with the cost? rifle is great but that safety cutout is so damn obvious.

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>>33657766
Yes, that's American Black Walnut. Same as this.

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>>33657704
>>33657705
See >>33657708

>>33657804
>Mas with a safety
Fucking how? I wouldn't buy that at all.

is it bad that I kinda want NK to retardedly attempt a CA invasion so I can blast gooks with my type 38 like it was meant to do?

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>>33657766
With the recoil bolt centered in the grasping groove it is an American-made stock.
>pic related, my 1920 Tula in a Westinghouse-contract stock.

>>33657813

bubba found a way:

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/635436256

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>>33657830
Awesome, did not know that!

Any reason your wood is so much lighter?

>>33657852
>Sreisel
Nope. Look elsewhere boss. You do not want that gun.

>>33657875

what is he a famous bubba?

>>33657875
Why do people shit on sreisel again?

I've used him once and didn't have any issues. But that is a sample size of one.

>>33652532
She is very pretty, and 13 years the senior of my rifle. Yours doesn't suffer from having the numbers scratched out and replaced then? nice.

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>>33657873
>Any reason your wood is so much lighter?
Refinished by the Finns when they fitted it to this rifle.

>>33657932
Not as near as I can see. All original and all matching. Which is suspect to me but.... well I can't find a reason to doubt what I see.
>>33657894
>>33657896
He's infamous for faking numbers, using separate accounts to bid up his own auctions, scratching out import marks, hiding damages, and generally being a shitbag of a seller. Sometimes his stuff is legit, but it's uncommon at a minimum. Don't buy from him lightly and don't get sucked into a bidding war if you do decide to bid.

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>>33657425
>That's a bid though, with 5 days left,
Thats how you avoid paying ludicrous prices on milsurp. Stop acting like a millennial as if 5 days is a long time.

>also the bolt is wrong
No. its a 1903 bolt. US arsenals didn't number them.
I assume you're saying its wrong because its a Remington shroud, but your franken 1903 won't be much better. Replacing that shroud with a springfield one is leagues cheaper than buying a new stock set, rear sight collar (Pro tip the scalloped one is correct and expensive) rear sight slide (with milled riser, as its correct), a new milled bayonet lug with stacking swivel (expensive, remington used stampings), and possible a new barrel/front sight if bubba shortened yours.

>>33658007

>He's infamous for faking numbers, using separate accounts to bid up his own auctions

doesn't gunbroker ban people for that?

>>33658169
>doesn't gunbroker ban people for that?
Fuck no; they make money off that shit.

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>>33658169
In theory, but in practice there is little one can do.

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I think a Garand is long overdue

>>33656756
if you really wanted to, you could screw in two studs into the holes, file them flush, then try to finish them to match the rest of the gun. it wont be perfect, but it will look good at a casual glance. IIRC mosin-nagant snipers were turned back into standard infantry rifles in this fashion.

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>>33657705
Tennessee. Fud capitol of the Southeast

>>33658537
I lived in Seymour for a few years as a teen. Have only been back briefly for some hiking trips in the smokies.

>>33657368
I have one in the mail right now. 1889 carbine with rod and sling mismatch

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>>33658554
If it wasn't so goddamn pretty here I'd be gone in a hurry

>have a Yugo mauser using mainly gew 98 inter war parts
>has the k98 sight
>have a lizier vange sight

I assume it's pretty easy to remove one sight for the other.

but is it bad form to swap sights like this? I usually don't fuck with my firearms other than just taking it apart and cleaning. but I love the lizier vange sight and I want to try shooting with one.

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>>33658965
>I assume it's pretty easy to remove one sight for the other.
Depends on your definition of "easy". You have to remove the front sight first (remove the set screw, heat the band to loosen the solder and then hammer it off), then do the same with the rear sight base. Then do the reverse with the Lange sight base, and finally re-install the front sight (don't forget the solder to keep them tight).

>>33659019

ah so I can't just use the same front sight for both rear sights?

>>33652590
look at the tang. it will have the original maker's mark.

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>>33659044
>so I can't just use the same front sight for both rear sights?
No you can, they did not change the front sight base when upgrading to the Mauser-patent tangent-leaf sight.

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>>33657368
yes.

which model is at your LGS?

>>33659071

so if I remove the rear sight pin and then the screw I just hammer off the sodder and bam?

why the fuck did they sodder on the sights?

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>>33658965
As I said about to the person wanting to "restore" his bubba'd M1903. You'll save a lot of time, sweat and money by just buying the rifle you want.

>>33659111
>so if I remove the rear sight pin and then the screw I just hammer off the sodder and bam?
Hehehe. Good luck with that.
>why the fuck did they sodder on the sights?
Because they want it to stay on.

I've got a question. After some googling and asking around with people I know. Some people say the PPU 8mm Lebel isn't loaded to Balle N standards and is safe to fire in Lebels and Berthiers that weren't upgraded. However some people suggest not to shoot modern ammo in non N marking Lebels and Berthiers regardless. Have any of you used it? Do you think it would be okay to shoot in a Remington M1907-15?

>>33659153
>You'll save a lot of time, sweat and money by just buying the rifle you want.

yeah I figure I will roll with that. I don't want to risk seriously damaging the rifle especially since it was the first one I ever bought.

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>>33659111
>so if I remove the rear sight pin and then the screw I just hammer off the sodder and bam?
You need to heat the rear sight base's bands to make them expand (and liquefy the solder) ; it helps them separate from the barrel beneath. Otherwise you'll just smash it to a lump trying to remove it.
>why the fuck did they sodder on the sights?
So it wouldn't move easily if struck or dropped.

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>>33652532
My new Toy to remove untermensch

All Matching "G" Date including the Magazine. Traded a Nagant revolver for it.

Took it out Shooting today and it ran almost flawlessly with Aguilla 115gr

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>>33659179
Yes, PPU is fine. The only difference between "Balle N" and the previous cartridges are that "Balle N" had the thickest part of the bullet inside of the case mouth instead of outside of it. So it requires more room for the case mouth to expand to release the bullet.

As for your Remington. The French never accepted them and canceled the contract for a reason. Supposedly some had incorrect chamber reaming and by the time they fixed the problem the French had enough of their delays.

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>>33659371
nice. i feed my babies Magtechs.

>>33659395
Yeah that's the jist I got. And apparently the issues the Remington's had were mostly fabricated by the French

>>33659457
This Luger is my First 9mm, and the Aguila was the only thing I had laying around. Surprised it worked desu.

Also, Silly question, but Luger Snail Drums work in any Luger correct? I'd like to track one down because of how neat they are, but it'd be nicer for it to be able to be used in my gun

>>33659481
I have some doubt that the French would have fabricated something like that. What reason would they? I think that Remington just fixed the problem and most that are around now had the problems worked out.

Do you have pics of it? What did you pay for it? Some people pay some ridiculous prices for them.

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>>33659526
yes. they will work in any.

they are angled and act as a counterweight. the gun is more accurate with one as well.

>>33659061
I would, but it's covered in 400lbs of cosmoline. I'll clean it up in the morning.

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Got the bolt on my M39 bent, really glad how it came out and how it feels now. Dont see why the Finns didnt do this to begin with.

>inb4 u fucking bubba, how could you ruin the original bolt!
its not the original bolt handle, its was a shitty russian bolt handle I found at a flea market for 3 bucks.

>>33659717
You still bubbad a bolt anon.

>>33659770
Totally worth it tbqh with yew familia

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>>33659717
You should have bought my M39.

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Got the duffelcut all rigged up for repair.

Wish i could get them as perfectly fit as the arsenals did. Shit was tough just to get here

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Everyone needs a Greek Mannlicher in their collection.

>>33660069
what's a good price for one?

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>>33660112
That's tough... $650? More with the cross. It's so hard to estimate because they don't come up often. A 1930 carbine just sold for 750ish yesterday.

>>33660183
>search gunbroker
>only listing is sreisel

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>>33660266
Yup. It's on my watch list. If I can get it for $450 or less I'll pick it up.

>>33655847
Some random Albanian at a gun show today. $225 out the door.

>>33659717
As long as you kept the original bolt intact that's fine I guess

>>33659655
Will they work with .30 luger?

>>33659717
Please consider suicide

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Does anybody else's local clubs or private ranges hold milsurp competitions? Have you shot any? What'd you use? How'd you do?

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I'm looking at getting either a German Mauser or maybe an FN49 next. Anyone know how much of a difference a bolt mismatch makes for either? I keep finding really nice K98s with mismatched bolts.

>tfw i collect surplus since nobody ever accepted me the way i am
>so i provide my guns the acceptance i never got

>>33660810
I've never seen anything like that. Everytime my local range has some shoot I miss it due to scheduling anyway though.

>>33659948
>PU on an M39
What in the world compelled you to do this?
Couldn't you at least have used a PE and made a repro of the ~200 M39 SOVs the Finns made?

>>33660810
no, but you could always start your own. put up a bounty see if your local range would match it and make some fliers.

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>>33661190

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>>33661190
should be fine. K98s are some of the better if not best machined rifles ever. mismatch bolt wont matter.

>>33652532

I also have 1942 round receiver 91/30.

It was the first rifle I ever got. My father gave it to me.

Later I moved to America, where you can buy military style shit for cheap, so I got a M&P15 rifle and also a 870 combat style shotgun.

God bless this country, helping us to protect ourselves from outside enemies.

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>>33661594
So there shouldn't be any problems with headspacing? I'd hate to get an otherwise nice rifle that's unshootable.

>>33661628
To be clear, I'm not talking about Russian captures, which had their headspacing checked by the Soviets when they force-matched bolts (at least, that's how I understand it).

how much should I expect to pay for an M95 with a forced match stock (old serial is struck, new serial on other side matches) and electopenciled bolt (im assuming its also force matched), but is otherwise in good condition? no clip or sling.

likewise how much for a good condition type 30 (all parts included and all matching with a good condition stock, dont care about markings) vs a good condition type 99? (simmilar, all parts and matching parts with a good stock, non last-ditch but dont care about markings)

>seeing some vertellis in 6.5mm carcano for under 200 bucks

is it worth to grab? they sound like interesting rifles but I honestly don't know much about them.

>>33653043
>2017 not having a FFL03

its like you arnt even trying anon

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>>33656903
You can find an original M95 Russian for less than a thousand €uros here in Finland. My dad has one with the Russian army stamps, gonna have it for myself in two years.

>>33652532
if it isn't a Finn, is it American?

>>33661635
ive never seen or heard of a 98 mauser having headspace issues.

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Make Milsurp Great Again

Threadly remind the K98 is a polish gun

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I'm in the market for an American "Garand" action service gun, either new production or surplus.

I'm torn between the
JRA M14F~2000$
Fulton M1 Carbine 1400$
And maybe an M1 Garand, although I'd rather go with the former options.

What would you guys do? I want a quality peice of Americana to hike/hunt with.

>>33652578
Post ww1 bolt? I have an 1898 mosin just like your. The newer bolt bugs me but numbers all match and its a good shooter. Dark bore just like you said, must have seen some shit!

>>33662997
The M1 Carbine is not a garand, and generally speaking, unless you are collecting a very specific and rare M1 carbine, you should just avoid them.

I'd have one of the IBM M1 Carbines, for instance, but I'd never hunt with one.

As far actual M1a Garands, those can be had in "good" condition from 1100 as Korean war surplus, up to as much as your credit card can handle based on condition and rarity.

If what you want is something non-milsurp, just just a new manufacture M14.

>>33663056
Why wouldn't you hunt with a Carbine?

And I'm fully aware the M1 Carbine isn't a garand, no need to get autistic here

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>>33661577
Century did it, not me chief.

>>33663101
>no need to get autistic here
You said you wanted a Garand and immediately followed that by saying M1 Carbine. So you can't really blame me for assuming you were just uninformed. The Carbine is chambered in ... 30 carbine, which is like a hot loaded pistol calibre. They're also notoriously unreliable in field conditions.

>>33663175
Read>>33662997
You're autistic

>>33663207
Suit yourself. They're your tendies, after all.

>>33663207
... Are you under the mistaken impression that an M1 Carbine is a "Garand" action?

And you calling the anon "autistic"?

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from this

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>>33663412
tta daa

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Pic related was my first gun and my first Surp.

All matching barring the magazine 51 Tula. Great bore and internals, stock's kinda beat though.

>>33663528
>Picture taken on a black sofa at night inna cave

>>33663417
>>33663412
You did a nice job. I remember when you first posted that and I didnt think it would clean up nearly that well.

>>33660387
I did, thats why I was so glad when I found a shitty Russian bolt handle.

>>33660387
Y tho

>>33661190
You and I both know you should get an M1903 you silly goyim

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Well after a good thorough cleaning, it looks like I have an all original, 1914 Tula M91 that never went to another nation. For $225.

Yeah I'd say I had a good find.

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I'll be buying replacement grips. Whats a good color? I'll be keeping the original grips safe because I guess after 65 years they get brittle and can break during firing.

Any color of the rainbow, but I'm thinking "army green". Purple or ivory would be pretty cheeky.

>>33663740
My dad has one of these. Fantastic piece one of my favorites to shoot.

>>33663695
Idk man that crest looked scrubbed

>>33663947
Na it just looks like wear to me. It did go through the entirety of WW1 afterall.

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>>33663695
neato

i still dont know who originally made my Finn capture M91. the second barrel band screw is headless....i cant get the stock off at this time.

>>33664004
I must respectfully disagree. That Imperial Eagle >>33652590 is clearly defaced; you can see the gouges in the metal indicating the direction of the filing/grinding.

>>33663740
If the grips are on right they shouldn't break. What is more likely to happen is that the original grips will be lost and/or broken while off of the gun.
>>33664026
>>33663947
I actually agree. Though, the commies often scrubbed them too.

>>33664026
Doesn't look scrubbed to me. They're ground completely off leaving a divot when they got defaced. You can make out the bird and crest here.

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>>33664347
We are talking about the eagle over the Peter the Great rollmark on the barrel, Anon, which is almost completely gone.

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What do about this cosmo patina?

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>>33662144
Really? I would have thought it would have been an issue with any rifle if you're not careful. That being said, my point of reference is Lee-Enfields.

Would you say it's better go for an all-matching but slightly beaten up K98 or a mismatched-bolt K98 in better condition with a repro ZF41?

>>33663686
It's coming to something when you can recognize my posts from my guns.

>>33664662
Stick the stock in a garbage bag, leave it in a hot car for an afternoon. That'll sweat the cosmoline out.

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>>33664789
>all-matching but slightly beaten up K98
This is better from a collecting standpoint, the other may be better if you want a rifle for a shooter.

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>>33661190
Nice No.4. What year is it?

>>33664662
>>33664789
Is it original finish, or a cosmoline like preservation? Its slightly tacky and there seems to be a lot of debate in the forums

>>33661190
>German Mauser
Unless you get a Russian capture miss match a Nazi Mauser will be a safe queen, not that there is anything wrong with that.
>FN-49
If you can get an FN-49 in any caliber that would be cool. Since you already have an M1 you might want to get one thats in Caliber .30, United States Government, Model of (The year of our Lord) Nineteen Hundred and Six. But an 8mm gun would be pretty cool aswell. Might also want to look into a Hakim

Conclusion: M 1 9 0 3

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>>33661795

anybody? are vertelli's worth?

>>33665608
Not much. A pristine example could get 400. But the average Rifle is around 150-300 depending on condition.

Make sure it has its cleaning rod, the receiver and stock match (nothing else is numbered), and weather the cartouche is still present or the stock has been heavily sanded.


Never fire it with 6.5 from ppu. Surplus Italian was fairly anemic in its powder charge and that's still pretty sketchy.

If you ever want to shoot it use blackpowder as it was designed for.

I have a nice condition m1903a3 stock, and am considering building a new barreled rifle out of it. Where's a good place to start? I'm not sure if it's a smith corona or what manufacturer, as it is just a stock.

>>33665810
Also, anyone have experience with criterion barrels?

>>33665810
I think un barreled receivers end up on gun broker once in a while. I think AIM Surplus actually has a few as well. I have a Criterion barrel on my Remington 1903A3 Springfield. Damn good stuff

>>33665807

>Never fire it with 6.5 from ppu. Surplus Italian was fairly anemic in its powder charge and that's still pretty sketchy.

so 6.5mm carcano from PPU will most likely blow up the vertelli from overpressure? I might have to hold off on it as I have never done reloading let alone blackpowder reloading.

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>that feeling when you alter your M39s finish

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Got my beretta 92s from the FFL on Friday. This gun feels like a steal at $299. People make way too big a deal out of the heel release.

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>>33667316
They are a steal at that price

>>33666128
It might not kaboom on the first shot. But the pressure in modern ppu is about double that original blackpowder load. The 10.4 vetterli was roughly 20000psi, ppu depending on grain is easily 40000psi.

That repeated overpressure will fuck that receiver hard.
The only saving grace on the vetterli is the bore tends to be a hair bigger than 6.5 standard loadings.

If that rifle is in stellar shape i would grab it, but save it until you can either reload smokeless with just a few grains, or feel comfy cramming blackpowder in the case.

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Slavic Sisters.

>>33653805
My Korean made type 99 is pretty shitty, bud. the action is sticky and gritty as fuck.

>>33668310
Matching bolt or another mismatched?

>>33668361
I don't even see markings on the bolt.

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>>33668432
It's not one of those Chinese copies is it?

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>>33664815
>>33665370
Is it heresy to shoot an all-matching gun? I'd prefer to be able to shoot my rifles, since that's part of the allure. That's why I'm concerned about headspacing for a mismatched bolt - I'd prefer to shoot it and probably reload for it, so excessive headspace is a dealbreaker.

And yeah, my dilemma is between the FN49 and a K98. K98 has more historical value, but an FN49 is so fucking sexy.

>>33665113
Thanks. It's a 1942 Fazarkerley. How about yours?

>>33665234
If it's tacky to the touch, it's probably cosmoline. Heating the stock shouldn't harm the finish as long as you don't blowtorch it. However, I'm no expert on M39s, so I guess it could be the finish?

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>>33668445
Nah, it's definitely a Korean. (If anyone wants to help enlighten me on the rest of the markings and give a general date of manufacturing, I'd love some wisdom). All I know about it is that it's a bring back of my great uncle, gave it to me when I graduated basic training. Box says "Jap rifle, 7mm. Captured 12/44" Serial reads 42229, bolt reads 229. Ground mum. The arsenal mark corresponds with Jinseng. However, I have no clue about the last two markings by the bolt release latch, and there's another half moon marking above the bolt release latch

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>>33668603
Closer image of the two stampings

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>>33668630
And an image of the half moon. Is this a rearsenal mark, or dictating removal from usage? (The front sight blade is loose as shit)

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>>33668599
>Is it heresy to shoot an all-matching gun?
Fuck no; I'd shoot my 99% matching Gew.98 if the stock wasn't cracked and the bore didn't look like a sapper's tunnel at Messines Ridge.

>>33668603
>>33668630
That's cool.

>mas 49/56 in .308 for 565

is it worth to grab for that much? does the mas 49 have trouble with .308?

>>33668772
The MAS 49 conversions by Century have issues, but the ones done in France are perfectly fine.

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>>33668772
No it's not, and yes it does. 7.5 French or bust.
>>33668599
>Is it heresy to shoot an all-matching gun
It'll reduce the value a little but that's up to you. I shoot my matching guns all the time.

>>33668603
Is this a last ditch rifle? That machining is atrocious and the finish looks terrible. This is easily a late war example. The squiggly character to the right of the serial is the rough manufacturing date. Can't make it out

>>33668630

These are just inspection marks, all the critical parts should have them.

>>33668661
This is nothing. Either accidental tool marking or damage.

>>33668835
>The squiggly character to the right of the serial
Mean to the left

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>>33664662
>>33668599
Light is failing so ignore color shift, looks perfect in person. Would do again

>>33668835
>is it last ditch
It's got no front sight wing protectors, no hole cut in the wood for a cleaning rod, wooden butt plate. The rear sight is still a ladder sight, though, just no AA wings. And as far as the dating mark goes (thanks for pointing that out, by the way), looks like it's the only dating stamp available for Jinsen arsenal, which puts it between somewhere between '44 and '45. I don't suppose anyone would know the serial number range for them?

>>33669027
>serial number range for them?
1-999999

They would of gotten a new series if they made more than that.

>>33668603
Yours is a transitional model, a very late transitional model at that because SN 42381 is the first recorded rifle with the fixed rear sight.
>>33668661
That's a circle and it's been recorded to mean that the rifle or part was accepted under a secondary or wartime standard.

Neat rifle. I would love to see it all.

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>>33669754
Here it is (with bayonet, outside purchase) from a while back, I'll try and take one now but it won't have great lighting. Anything in particular you wanted to see on it?

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>>33669826
I just wanted the see the whole thing. Nice rifle.

>>33669826
In case it wasn't obvious at this point. The Arisaka is a great and well designed mauser clone (kinda).

You just happen to have a relatively shitty version. Try a real early to mid war rifle before you spread more salt

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Jap gats best gats

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>>33670224
We'll just ignore that pesky revolver and nambu pistol

One more m1903 stock question sorry, I see some have some form of metal reinforcement inside them, was this a later addition or something all stocks are supposed to have?

So m39 bores are suppose to ve between .308 and .311 at the grooves right?
Either my caliper is fucked or i dont know how to use it because im getting between .300 and .305. How difficult is it to swag the barrel so i know the true diameter?

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>>33670224
>Best
HON

HON

HON

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>>33670369
I need a nambu, but don't have one. >>33670476
A frog is fine too

>>33670465
>How difficult is it to swag the barrel so i know the true diameter?
Not. You just get some lead shot or slugs of approximate size and tap it through the bore using a wooden or plastic dowl.

Finn barrels can vary quite a bit depending on the manufacturer.

>>33670476
Youve got a lot if stuff and i just got an 03, what should be the first gun i put in it? Id like to spend no more than 700.

Ive got a irish no4 enfield and a finn nugget, id like something thats not a mauser from one of the lesser countries of WWII/cold war

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>>33668599
1941 Maltby that went through FTR in 1956. Hands down my favorite rifle.

>>33670476

why the fuck is it so hard to find mas 36s? gunbroker has a few but I can't find any on sampsonltd or liberty tree.

>>33670523
Thats way simpler than i thought. So i can just open up 0 buck shot and tap it down?
This might be stupid but can i get a mold of the chamber the same way?

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Questions.

How much are these worth? I found them via a local collector...

1. Argentinian Mauser, all matching numbers with matching bayonet. Nazi proofs and acceptance stamps on everything including stock.

2. German naval stamped Mauser.

3. Carl Gustav Swede Mauser 1896 with Nazi proofs.

4. Hungarian M91/30 Sniper without scope.

5. Polish M44 1941 all matching.

>>33670903
6-700

what year

500-600?

dunno

300

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>>33670802
>So i can just open up 0 buck shot and tap it down?
Should work. Here's a basic tutorial:
http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinSlug.htm
>This might be stupid but can i get a mold of the chamber the same way?
For that you want to use Cerrosafe.

>>33670903
>1. Argentinian Mauser, all matching numbers with matching bayonet. Nazi proofs and acceptance stamps on everything including stock.
Nothing; it's pure bullshit fakery.
>2. German naval stamped Mauser.
Do you mean a Kreigsmarine-marked Kar.98k or a Kaiserliche Marine-marked Gew.98? Kreigsmarine Kar.98k are rare enough and tend to go for $2000+, a Kaiserliche Marine Gew.98 is much rarer but because it doesn't draw the Wehraboos it would probably be worth about the same.
>3. Carl Gustav Swede Mauser 1896 with Nazi proofs.
Again, fake as fuck.
>4. Hungarian M91/30 Sniper without scope.
$400-600.
>5. Polish M44 1941 all matching.
No Polish M44 made in 1941. They were all 1950 or later. $300-500.

>>33670903
I love you boof. Why did you change the guys bracketing your name? Hope youre having a great easter.

>>33671008
Thanks man, il look into cerrosafe. My enfield is splitting maybe 2/100 necks, i know the chambers were made pretty loose but id like to know how liberal they were making mine.

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>>33670903
You avin a giggle Boof?

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>>33671086
>My enfield is splitting maybe 2/100 necks, i know the chambers were made pretty loose but id like to know how liberal they were making mine.
New ammo or surplus? My SMLE tends to split older surplus (40s-60s vintage) cases at the neck; headspace is still good tho.

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>>33659714
iktfb

>>33671128
It was new but cheap winchester stuff, im not too worried really but it got me curious.

How do you like the pigsticker? Ive got a blade bayonet on mine. Not sure if it shoots better or worse with it on but i like how it looks.

>>33671169
>How do you like the pigsticker?
I don't really; rather insubstantial. I have a ROF-Poole No.9 for it too.

>>33671008
Apologies, 1951 polish M44. Typo.

The Argentinian Mauser is very real. I handled it myself. The stamps looked authentic. Maybe it's not Argentinian? Maybe I was wrong with what country it was from...

I haven't seen the Swede in person, but again I've seen pictures of it with the proofs. Looks legit.

It's a Gew.98 with navel markings, so probably a Kaiserliche Marine.

>>33668288
That mosin is perhaps the most beautiful, perfect condition rifle I have ever seen.

>>33671420
kek

>>33671397
>The Argentinian Mauser is very real. I handled it myself. The stamps looked authentic.
The only Argentinian Mausers made after the Nazis came to power were some Standardmodell rifles and carbines for various Federal and State-level police forces; they all have German export commercial proof marks.
>Maybe it's not Argentinian? Maybe I was wrong with what country it was from...
Perhaps it was a Portuguese m/941? This is a straight-up copy of the Kar.98k made from 1941-1943 at Waffenfabrik Mauser. These DO have German military acceptance marks because they were inspected by the same workers at the factory. About half of them never made it to Portugal as the war turned against the Germans and it became unwise to export perfectly good military rifles.
>I haven't seen the Swede in person, but again I've seen pictures of it with the proofs. Looks legit.
No m/96s manufactured anywhere after the Nazis came to power. It's not real, or it's not Swedish.

>It's a Gew.98 with navel markings, so probably a Kaiserliche Marine.
Vast majority of these are made by DWM, some by WF-Mauser, and are pre-War dated. They have unique proof markings aside from just the Naval cartouche on the stock.
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?665258-Naval-Gew-98

>>33671530
>No m/96s manufactured anywhere after the Nazis came to power.
Wait, I have to take that back. Husqvarna made 20,000 of them from 1942-1944. Still, there's no Germans working there to inspect rifles and slap "war eagles" on them.

>>33671586
What about the 1951 polish M44?

>>33671651
$300-600, depending on condition. I've seen guys regularly pay over $500 for them if they're in mint condition.

Whats a finn capture 1891 with crest intact go for?
>mosin collecting is a autistic minefield

>>33671838
$350ish it seems, more for rare arsenals or being a antique.

>ywn be an eccentric Milsurp dealer with your own castle
>ywn equip latin american countries with weapons of dubious quality
>ywn be Francis Bannerman
truly a bizarre feel

>>33671651
>>33671668
What if it is chopped in half with a bandsaw?

>>33671838
I sold one earlier this year for $250 and it took forever to sell.

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Hey guys
I started to get into doing informal competition with MiliSurp at my club with my m1

What is the best bolt action built before 64 to do informal target shooting with? NO4 mkII worth looking at?

>>33674442
It's mostly a preference thing, but yeah the Enfields will work very well. K31, 1903, Ross mk2 or mk3 are other options of its a Camp Perry style distance match. If it's something more akin to what Ian does with the 2 gun matches then whatever rifle you want, they're all going to perform the same in that environment.

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Can anyone tell me what model of Krag this is? I'm assuming 1898

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Along with the krag also going to inherit this. Looks to be a spanish Ruby clone.

>>33674776
>no m39
>no m28/30

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>>33674922
Neither have finely adjustable sights so I didn't include them.

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>>33674442
Pehaps a M1903A3 because of its similarity in caliber and sight picture to the M1?

>>33674951
They both have 25m increments

>>33675009
No control for windage. No thin match style posts. No aperture. No diopeter.

For a Camp Perry style, known distance match that can be a big deal. IF that's what's being shot. If it's some other style of competition then sure, it's a great option.

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>>33674877
check the serial number, it could be an 1892 or one of the other variants, 1898 is most likely. either way its only worth $150 cause its ruined.

>>33674886
neato, as long as the mag isnt finicky those are fun shooters.

>>33675049
Not planning on selling the krag, but in my area sporterized krags go for 600+

>>33675056
Wtf

Where is this

>>33668599
Where did you pick up that Martini at? I'm interested in the current IMA offerings but I wasn't sure if they'd have anything decent with how long the cache has been available.

>>33675113
In a liberal shithole. Nonmatching 91/30s go for 3-400, and enfields are stickered at 8-1200

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>>33675196
Do you not have Gunbroker?

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>>33675196
damn dude, which liberal shithole? i could sell a couple things and retire early.

>>33675196
Got to be new England somewhere. I'm in illinois which is shit tier and it's way better than that

>>33675218
Funny you mention that. FFL fees are anywhere from 60-120 bucks if you can believe that shit

>>33675425
Let me guess, gas is $3.50 a gallon too. And the cheapest can of Keystone costs $4 at a bar.

>>33675459
No actually. Gas is close to the closest in the country. But beer typically starts at about 6 bucks at the bar.

Shit sucks man. Except for the gas price. Thats cool.

>>33675196
>>33675425

jesus is that milsurp hell or something?