GLOCK SAFE ACTION TRIGGER™

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>these are the same fuckers that denounce the gadget scd

Then again, the 43 gadget isn't out yet and it doesn't replace proper reholstering/gun safety.

This is why the fuck I carry DA/SA and use a safe reholstering trchnoque so shit like that is nigh impossible

>>33649610

Just curious, in what condition do you carry your DA/SA pistol? Chambered round, DA-mode? Any risk of a snagged hammer going off from half-cock?

>>33649610
>gadget scd
What's that?

Also, that's why I love DA/SA for carry too (though I usually carry a striker fired just because my beretta is hard to conceal during the summer months). You can keep your thumb behind the hammer when you holster and instantly know if something snags.

>>33649640
Not that guy but I personally carry my DA/SA chambered, hammer down.
>snagged hammer going off from half-cock?
Why would you leave your gun at half-cock?
Lighten DA pull by like, 1/4 lb? There's no point

>>33649640
Not him, but chamber loaded, hammer down, safety on. Short of carrying with an empty chamber (which IMO is a bit stupid), I've got the maximum number of obstacles in the way of an ND, yet can still get my gun into action as fast as I can draw it.

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GLOCK PERFECTION

>>33649674
>>gadget scd
It's like the reverse of a grip safety. Replaces the rear plate of a Glock, while you press it the trigger is locked so you can draw / holster safer.

Might be a good idea for cops / armed security but I don't want one.

>>33649640
>Any risk of a snagged hammer going off from half-cock?

Literally what? Maybe if you have a fucking 150 year old beat to shit colt single action army dude

There is no way a modern DA/SA will go off from half cock. Even if you fucking dropped the gun on the hammer and broke the sear (in which case you'd have much BIGGER problems) every single modern gun has a firing pin block so it still wouldn't go off

>we're going to prevent inadvertent trigger pulls by designing a safety that is disabled by pulling the trigger

brilliant

>>33649518
this probably didn't happen though

>>33649640
I'm fairly certain the only risk with a half-cock safety is the hammer getting accidentally pulled all the way back to full cock. There's not really any risk of it falling from half-cock.

>austrian engineering

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This is why I love external hammer. I ALWAYS practice thumb over hammer while reholstering.That with a decocker is just so comfortable and safe and convenient.

I really like the 43 ergonomically and convenience wise though. If I found one for around 400 flat I don't think I could resist.

>>33649518
>CCW class
the real failure is your life

>>33649829
Does it hurt knowing you are both stupid and loud about it?

>>33649923
>thumb over hammer while reholstering

I always do this even with striker fired guns because it's just become a habit for me

Oh how I wish there was a quality easy-to-get single stack DA/SA subcompact

>>33650457
???

>>33649843
He wrote it ou in a green text and everything. It has to be legit instead of an assmad faggot shooting off his mouth.

>>33650478
Same here. There's that sig but it's heavy and damn expensive.

>>33650478
>Oh how I wish there was a quality easy-to-get single stack DA/SA subcompact

Sig P239.

>>33649610
Stop shilling your garbage here, it's obvious as fuck and only retards want one to stop them from being retards. In which case a 'gadget' won't do anything.

>>33650545
>Added safety on a reholster while giving up nothing is retarded

Hello Yeager

>>33650555
>adding something that will not stop the majority of NDs and be something else to snag/fail is going to help anybody
Here's a tip, most NDs happen when people get careless with thier trigger finger while the gun is already out, holstering and unholstering doesn't enter into most incidents unless you are an idiot with a sherpa holster.

Go shill RIP ammo. At least that was mildy entertaining.

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>>33649518
I'll take things that never happened for $200 Alex

>>33650476
how does Gaston's cock taste?

>>33650575
How would it not stop the majority of NDs? Most nds are on reholster.

How is it going to get snagged it doesn't even stick out until you pull the trigger and only a very little bit.

>>33650634
> Most nds are on reholster.
Stop using fuck-awful holsters then, jesus christ.

>>33650637
You're retarded aren't you? Do good holsters automatically prevent other things like shirts or jacket material from getting into them? Is it a one way forcefield and only the gun can get through?

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>>33650645
A good holster and proper usage of it will minimize trigger snag to the point that it won't happen to you unless you absolutely fuck up your re-holster. Practice more, spend a little more money on your holster.

People constantly bitch about these things because they went cheap on something and expected better.

>>33650654
You can't minimize a shirt getting into your holster you stupid no guns cunt. Adding a device to a gun or better yet having an external hammer further minimizes the risk of an accident on reholster to zero as long as you always thumb it on reholster.

>Hurr why do you want to minimize the risks and have more safety at no costs
>Proceeds to talk about better holsters that minimize the risk of accidents

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>>33650669
>Adding a device to a gun or better yet having an external hammer further minimizes the risk of an accident on reholster to zero as long as you always thumb it on reholster.

Should have gone with a design that was better from the ground up instead of opting for a stand-in bandaid solution.

Faggot.

>>33650682
I don't even own a striker fired gun you fucking retard I'm just trying to clean away some of the faggotry youre infesting this thread with.

>>33650645
>>33650669
Don't carry a Glock if you are worried about your stupid ass shooting yourself. Maybe a 1911 with nothing in the chamber and safety engaged if more your speed. Or a training dummy.

>>33650682
Glocks are fine, retards aren't but such is the price of liberty and eugenics becoming verboten

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>>33650691
I'm not the same guy you were arguing with.

>>33650705
>I'm perfect and will never make a mistake

The whole reason we have gun safety, finger off the trigger until ready to fire etc. Is because humans ARE imperfect and we do things to minimize our risks of messing up. There isn't harm in further minimizing your risks of messing up and giving up nothing.

Fuck you contrarian idiots need to go back to tactical response.

>>33650718
Glocks are shit.

>>33650718
Finger off the trigger and not being a faggot trying to replicate tactical response being faggots with speed reholsters is going to stop it.

By all means if you can't be bothered to be not retarded get the thing you think will stop you from being a retard. It won't but it'll be fun to see you try.

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>>33649640
Series 80's 1911's have like a shim between the hammer and pin so when you fail to decock it from half cock or something it won't go off in you hands if you don't hold pressure on the grip.

>>33650750
It's hopeless trying to argue with contrarian fucks like you. I'm not even going to bother.

You don't want added safety for no detraction fine. I don't give a fuck, just don't act like other people are stupid for being responsible and acknowledging limitations and accidents.

>>33650669
Yes you fucking can. Quit trying to reholster your gun like some super fast, high speed wannabe. Take the time to move the god damn clothing out of the way. Your DRAW should be fast, not your fucking reholster you raging autist.

>>33649518
>oy vey, don't mess up reholstering your Glock!

Yep. Still better than fucking with a safety after drawing. Sorry it doesn't work 100% for your drills.

>>33650781
Or I can reholster at a reasonable pace and still thumb the hammer or whatever may be there to mitigate my risk entirely.

>NO DONT DO THAT

Literal autism.

>>33650764
>my side is utterly reasonable and anyone else are NDing retards
Nice to know you're out of arguments.

>>33650782
>you NEED to buy something no one with an ounce of sense has had a problem with
Get a 12 pound police trigger and be done with it.

>>33650795
We're talking about glocks. What the fuck are you on about?

>>33650750
Tactical Response literally teaches you to reluctantly reholster your weapon, everything with them is in a defensive mindset. The only faggots that reholster fast are competition people because they think it feels good/looks cool. I bet you teacup grip your pistol.

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What state requires holster work for a concealed handgun class? Shit, I didn't do that for my armed security qualification.

>>33649640
75BD owner - it's my EDC - one in the chamber hammer down. I don't know why people find this such a hard concept. People spend decades doing the exact same thing with revolvers. Put your thumb behind the hammer while re-holstering - you'll know if something is interfering with the trigger.

>>33650809
>Strawmanning

I'm talking about the tool that you can put on Glocks to reholster with while thumbing the rear plate. Thats what that other guy or you was sperging about earlier when I replied.

>>33650824
And I'm saying it's unnecessary but you insist on sucking Gadget cock like they're paying you.

>>33650795
You are literally retarded if you think that will 100% solve the problem. What is a "reasonable" pace? How about if you just had to draw and smoke some asshole you reholster RELUCTANTLY. If you think thumbing the hammer is enough, you probably think putting your thumb over your asshole prevents rape. All these extra safeties do nothing but give you extra steps to your manual of arms and increase your risk of failing to protect yourself in a defensive situation.

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Easy solution: Don't buy shitty glocks

>carrying gun with safety on, mag release safety, 20 lb trigger DOA and no bullet in chamber cause fuck NDs
>carry it on kydex holster with retention to prevent perp taking away muh gun
>even if he did take said gun, that faggot doesn't know I carry an empty chamber LOL LOL
>also carry ankle sub nose hammer less revolver with no round in cylinder cause fuck NDs, also with 20 lb trigger
>IamTheSafestFaggotOnEarth.exe
>LOL those glock faggots and their unsafe guns, fuck those glock cocksuckers carrying an unsafe gun with a round in the chamber, they make us good guys look bad with their possible ND

In case I did need my gun, all I need is .003 seconds to disengage the safety, chamber a round, take aim and perfectly shoot the perp center mass with 3 rounds. If my main CCW gun were to jam, it'd take me .01 seconds to draw revolver in my ankle, spin the cylinder to a live round and shoot center mass at perp. Faggots can't even begin to operate like I do. fuck NDs by the way, I will never ND no matter what.

>>33650849
Yeah because I'm going to be 100 percent with my mental faculties after shooting someone. Why would I not have the ability to use my muscle memory already developed and reholster even safer?

>Extra steps to your manual of arms

People who didn't grow up shooting striker guns like you striker kiddies are already used to it.

>>33650847
Your opinion means fuck all to me. I'm not sucking gadget cock I'm sucking off the idea of added safety on reholster not being something to shit on like a fat autist.

>>33650871
>I'll call people who disagree with me fat and young, looks like I win!
I really wish I was as smart as you.

>>33650871
Striker fired guns predate WW2 you raging fool. Reholstering reluctantly IS your muscle memory, if it is the way you trained. Maintain your four rules of firearm safety and ALL guns become the safest gun. All of that extra shit is you being scared of yourself. It is literally an expression of low self esteem. You are beyond helping.

>>33650622
who the fuck is gaston? your gay black boyfriend?

>>33649518
Glocks don't have a safety.
They are just drop safe.

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>>33649518
Are you me?

>Tactifool room mate like to do tactifool drills.
>I join every so often.
>Doing CC drawing and reholstering
>He says my CZ p07 is shit and that all it's edges will snag and the DA will fuck my aim.
>Tell him I enjoy having one in the pipe with a hard first pull for safety.
>He laughs and says good technique is the best safety.
>Don't reply because honestly he's not wrong.
>He goes to reholster
>*click*
>His trigger snagged on his jeans.
>Say nothing.
>He becomes so booty blasted that he sells his glock and gets an HK p30.
>Now he says HK is the best and that my CZ is still shit.

>>33651059
>He says my CZ p07 is shit
You did pick a pretty garbage CZ, tbqh.
Why not an SP-01?

>>33651157
I wanted something that could fill any role a 9mm pistol might have to take, so it needed to be:
>Reasonably light
>Reasonably rugged.
>Doublestack
>A decent trigger.
>Compact for carry, but still big enough to be considered a duty gun.
>Be able to take higher cap mags.
>Light mount.
>Low cost so I don't overly feel like shit if it ends up lost or destroyed.
>DA/SA hammer fired with decocker for personal taste.

P07 hit all of those.

>>33650857
*teleports behind you in .01 seconds*

Should i get a HK P30 or a Sig P226 brehs

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>>33651059
>>*click*
>>His trigger snagged on his jeans.

>>33649518
>>33651059

GLOCK

P E R F E C T I O N

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>>33649518
Why would anyone rush holstering a gun? If you're putting it away in a civilian self defense situation the threat is gone unless you're johnny 2 guns.

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>>33651377

OP here, that's exactly what the instructor said, be careful and don't rush holstering

Not sure if the glock guy was just trying to show off, or he legit had no idea his shirt was in his holster (5 o'clock holster) or what

>>33649518
This kind of shit happens all the fucking time, and it's exactly why I carry with an empty chamber.

>>33649843
Happens all the time bucko.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/03/robert-farago/windbreaker-drawstring-triggers-glock-negligent-discharge/

2 seconds in google.

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>>33651382
That's just nutty. I use an IWB holster generally btw 4 and 6 o'clock depending on whether I'm sitting or on my feet a while. I'll just pull the holster out and put it back in then put the gun and the holster away together. It's not like I have eyes in the back of my head.

>>33650478
>Oh how I wish there was a quality easy-to-get single stack DA/SA subcompact
Dude. PPK

>>33651400

Yeah I'm comfortable holstering a da/sa behind my back because I can keep my thumb behind the hammer, but a loaded striker fire gun with no safety? No fucking way. I'd have to empty the chamber before holstering

>>33650588
See >>33651397

>>33650871
>Yeah because I'm going to be 100 percent with my mental faculties after shooting someone
This.

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>>33651419
I'm just paranoid. Putting them away at least. I like to see the inside of my holster before I push it in. Same thing with women. Don't jam a clam you haven't checked for cauliflower or other oddities.

>>33651377
>Why would anyone rush holstering a gun?
Who said he was rushing?

Everyone was holstering.

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>>33651460
If you fuck it up... you're rushing negro.

>>33651472
But that's wrong.

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>>33650575
>Here's a tip, most NDs happen when people get careless with thier trigger finger while the gun is already out, holstering and unholstering doesn't enter into most incidents unless you are an idiot with a sherpa holster.

You're fucking retarded, the vast majority of NDs happen during holstering/drawing. That's why it's such a big component of ccw courses, because so many aspies shoot themselves doing it

I always find it hilarious when striker-fired cultists proclaim that any safety other than a trigger safety makes a gun less safe, because "the only safety you need is between your ears." The most amusing part, however, is that these same people will insist that a single action gun with its grip safety pinned and manual safety disengaged is somehow unsafe to carry.

>>33651569
Those aren't the same people, and no one says it is any less 'safe' just that safeties in that way are largely outmoded with modern training like magazine cut offs became outmoded with changing tactics and training.

Also most single action revolvers are non drop safe reproductions and if they aren't it becomes a question as to why you would carry a single action.

Glocks are trash.

>>33651603
You're trash.

>>33651059
He didn't have a better gun than you before, but he does now.

>>33650526
I thought those were sao.

>>33651024
According to the faggots in this thread you shouldn't need a drop safety because only retards will drop their gun.

>>33649518

Nothing replaces paying attention to what you're doing. It's really as simple as that.

>>33652180
>using 90% of your attention to make sure your own gun doesn't shoot you
I would only open carry a glock in a duty holster. For cc, a gun with safety is superior.

>>33650622
Strangely enough, just like your dad's...

>>33649518
I call bullshit.

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DAO LEM masterrace

>>33652392
LEM is glock tier dumb. Cocked and locked is faster. You lose negligible speed with DA/SA + safety. Most top competition shooters run 2011s with safeties.

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>>33651059
>*click*

>>33649923
Mmm candy

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>>33649894
This offends me as austrian. Please delete

>>33652361
How fucking new are you to guns?

>>33652826
Glocks suck

deal with it

>>33652416
>top competition gun
>carry gun
Pick one.

>glockfags getting salty as fuck

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>>33650457
Wanna know how I know your too young to be here?

If you ever feel like a loser just remember you'll never be as pathetic as Glock fanboys.

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>>33649518
Pics or it didn't happen

>>33651829

Nope DA/SA, they are kinda big when compared to like a g43 or shield though

>>33649518
The trigger acted exactly as it was supposed to. The only thing that caused the gun to go off was the trigger being pulled.

Not clearing the holster before reholstering is operator error.

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>>33649843
>>33652361
>>33655876

>All these people acting like glocks ND-ing during reholstering has never happened before and is not in reality an extremely common occurrence that glock fanboys always downplay because they're so fucking delusional about "muh tier 1 operator training don't need no contingencies"

>>33649674
The CZ P-07 decocks to half half cock by default. That's my only real reason.

>>33649518
It's a drop safety. For some reason people don't seem to understand this.

>>33655990

>trigger safety
>drop safety
???

Are you sure you're not talking about the striker block?

>>33656351
They call it a trigger safety but it's only reason for existing is to act as a drop safety.

>>33651002
I wish noguns would leave

>>33656421

Is their justification so that if something just HAPPENS to get caught on the very EDGE of the trigger while it's falling, it won't go off?

Seems fucking retarded to me, if something engages the trigger more than that outermost "snag-safe" zone it's still going off

>>33656570
>Is their justification so that if something just HAPPENS to get caught on the very EDGE of the trigger while it's falling, it won't go off?
No that's literally just what people have assumed all these years

Glockfaggots on full damage control

Holy salty thread lol. All pistols suck, just carry a Mossberg shockwave under your edgy trench coat.

>>33650669

> what is lifting your shirt out of the way and keeping your finger off the trigger?
> what is not shoving your gun in your pants like your boyfriend shoves his dick in your ass?

It's not hard dood.

>>33655986

Why does it do this? Sounds like a retarded design

>>33657838
Does it? Have you ever used a decocker before?

>>33658446

My most heavily shot guns are DA/SA (my 3 berettas and my sig) and I have never even heard of let alone wanted a gun that only decocks to half cock

>>33658473
Do you know what half cock is? It's just floating right above the firing pin instead of touching it. A lot of decockers do this.

>>33658543
half cock means the trigger is deactivated

>>33658758
No it doesn't you retard.

>>33650852
What rifle is that? It looks sexy af.

>>33653282

Fuck off kiwi fuck. You and your gay koalas.

>>33658758
>bersa user detected
Only bersa thunders do this. If you put it on safety, it locks the trigger and raises the hammer to an inch above the pin.

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>>33658859
That's not half cock then.

>>33658830
pic related

>>33650486
Having to take a CCW class. Thats the tragedy of it all.

It's a cuck laughing at a co-cuck with a glock.

>>33658907
You're retarded. Only gun I have that can't fire from half cock is a 1911.

My cz when decocked rests at a partially cocked position (halfcock) and can be fired.

>>33658928
Half cock is a very specific term. What you are describing is not half cock.

>>33658937
Better tell all those da SA manufacturers that they're wrong and that the only halfcock exists on pistols like the 1911 and colt SAA etc.

You're probably the same autist who tries to say that the AR 15 is a piston gun like that thread days ago.

Fuck I hate you idiots.

>hurr durr under critical stress you can't into trigger discipline!!!111XD
>but you can into trigger discipline and a manual safety just train bro lol

Literally makes my neurons synapse

>>33658954
>hurr durr AR is DI
kys you fucking idiot

>>33658986
Fucking knew it
>Kys

Sure sign of a Reddit cunt

Slice your wrists faggot

>>33658954
Do you refer to magazines as clips?

>>33659021
There's no reason a gun cannot be half cocked and still fire from a trigger pull. CZ are the same way with their half cock "safety" notch and you can still fire in DA from that position.

I think you kids literally just get on here and make up shit.

>>33659064
The entire purpose of half cock is to act as a safety. If you can still use the trigger than it's not true half cock.

>>33650781
This, holy shit

>>33659082
Safety can mean safe from drops or a number of things idiot. CZ calls it that themselves even if I remember right.

>>33659092
Just got done looking at my M92 and it has the half cocked position that you could pull the trigger to get too. I know for a fact that it is drop safe in that position and is still has a DA trigger pull.

>>33658543
>A lot of decockers do this.

No, most decockers drop the hammer all the way

>>33658914

What's wrong with taking a CCW class?

It's something you have to do for a permit

>>33656581
So what you're saying.
Is that it's a safety for when I throw it?
Why does it explode then tough guy

>>33659384
Not everywhere, no. Some places it's "mail form, receive permit"

And we're up to, what, 7 states with permitless constitutional carry?

>>33659369
You're being pedantic as fuck and you know it. There are plenty of guns that decock to half cock instead of dropping the hammer directly on the firing pin. Stop being fucking stupid on the internet because you think it's fun.

>>33659473

What's the point in bashing people who don't live in one of these states then?

>>33649640
>in what condition do you carry your DA/SA pistol
Regardless of the condition of the gun, the safe handling method of holstering a gun with a hammer is to keep your thumb on the hammer as you put it back into the holster. That way, if anything does snag the trigger, you will feel that pressure of the hammer wanting to come back against your thumb.

Also there is no reason to ever carry in half-cock.

>>33659516

Sigs, Berettas, HKs, and any DA/SA gun that isn't a piece of shit all decock all the way.

There's no reason to decock to half cock and leave a snag hazard. Stop defending a shitty half assed design.

>>33651390
You can find plenty of videos where people carrying with an empty chamber die in a self-defense scenario because of it. Usually short-stroking the chamber.

Carry a gun you feel safe carrying with a round in the chamber.

>>33651397
From the comments on that article:

Why do people assume that they are going to have full control of their limbs when using a pistol. You are using a pistol cause it is a emergency. And I wasn’t talking about the thumb safety. That grip safety makes it almost impossible to use the 1911 with a injured hand. Or have you tried drawing it with the off hand and firing it upside down. Which people laugh at and call mall ninja. Until they meet people who have had to do it. Which makes you start rethinking manual safeties. Shit happens, you take frag thru your wrist from a guy with a s vest and you can only use the ring and pinky finger and have to fire your gun, or you take 30 rounds going thru a door. All these make it kinda hard to have But hey keep rocking that 1911.

>>33649518
You're right, that's why you just get a better trigger without the safety and don't be an idiot

>>33659620

I love reading comments about 1911s from people who have never owned a 1911.

>>33659559
You fucking halfwit, the P229 decocks to slightly above the firing pin.

>>33649610
Typically modern pistols will have a safety that will only allow firing pin to be hit by a hammer if the trigger is depressed. Specifically to prevent hammer snagging and hitting it.

Some old guns like my p64 will fire if you do that.

>>33659593
And you can find plenty of instances of people injuring/killing themselves or others because of NDs or ADs.

>>33652229
dude what. what kind of retort is that
>ive sucked both gaston AND your dads dick, and they taste the SAME

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>>33649518

Frame and slide and grip safeties are for pussies