Are police forces becoming more militarized or just updating

>>33620175
That's the dumbest fucking comic. The only people calling for demilitarization are the faggy liberals who want them demilitarized so they can't be raycis killers.

>>33620175

What is so modern about the "modern" US gun owner? Still old semi auto firearms at best. The only big change is plate carriers and optics.

It's the police that militarized with or without the people.

>>33620175

its more tactics than equipment

if the modern times involve pissing on the constitution and civil rights so they can boost their deployment count and get more federal funding for next year, then yes they are updating with the modern times

>>33620175
Herp derp cops r anti-gunz too
Fuck political comic artists.

>>33620201
Maybe it's not the qualitative aspect, but the quantitative one : there are more AR-15 than before, and this trend is there to last. So the Police equips itself accordingly.

Also, I have read that Police uses AR-15 because .223 can be more lethal and do less over-penetration than pistol bullets, especially when it fragments.

>>33620248
More or less true dependant on the ammunition used.

Carbines are liked by law enforcement because they are versatile enough to take on a vast majority of threats an officer will face, plus can be used in close quarters. Not to mention the patrol carbine trend is replacing the shotgun as of late for a lot of departments (provided of course the officer dosnt opt for both, as many do.) due to the ability of a carbine to provide accurate and tight fire at longer distances so you arent worried about pellet spread hitting bystanders.

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>>33620175
<----------an oldie but goodie

>>33620175
Militarization of police follows the drug war and prohibition rather closely, tho

>>33620175
>Hurr dem fucking white male gun nuts dangerous muh babbies muh needs muh racism
>America would have the gun crime rate of Luxemburg if blacks and Mexicans were excluded from statistics

WHAT IF THE KIND OF PEOPLE WHO WORK FULL TIME TO FUND THEIR HOBBIES WERENT THE SORT WHO SAY "FUCK IT IM GOING TO KILL MY NEIGHBOR FOR HIS CRACK STASH" OR "IM GOING TO DO A SHOOTING SPREE BECAUSE IM A CRIMINALLY INSANE BROKEN HUMAN THAT CANT FUNCTION AT LIFE IN FUNDAMENTAL WAYS"?


fuck it, the people who write this propaganda probably don't even believe it, there might as well be a hammer and sickle logo in the corner.

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>>33620175
The technical excuse/reason was Columbine, and the outrageously long response time it took to get the SWAT team ready.

The retarded concept behind this cartoon is that the fat dude with the bandolier is required to have semi-autos with 10 round cap mags while the Mr. Friendly Police Officer has a full auto with a 60 round mag.

Also, I fixed that retarded cartoon.

>>33620175

I don't have any issue with their equipment, aside from I myself am restricted from having some of it.

I do take issue to some tactics, like sending SWAT out for basic stuff.

>>33620175
It's not an opinion. It's a fact. Criminal Justice Major, they teach about how cops are more militarized. It's literally part of the curriculum.

>>33620175
>>33620544
Are police forces becoming:
>More militarized
or
>Updating themselves with the modern times

Those two things couldn't be farther from the opposite of mutually exclusive.

>>33620561
You're a dumb bitch. Did you just blow a cop or have bacon for breakfast?

>>33620215
To be fair they kind of have to.

The retarded way government budgeting works is as follows:

Did you not spend all of your budgeted money? Great, now you have half of what we gave you before even if you were 2% short on spending.

Did you use it all? We'll review for more budget next year.

Did you use it all quickly and justifiably and then need more? Here, have money.


If departments don't end up spending stupid amounts of money on shit they end up in poverty or unable to carry out their duties

The whole 'militarization' bit has a hell of a lot less to do with actual militarization than it does accounting fuckery

>>33620613
>Post middle of the road stance
>Post remade image of the original liberal cartoon favoring 2A guy
>Post the ridiculous edge Cops have against citizens
>"Wow you stupid fucking cop fucker did you just get down blowing the whole force?"

What did he mean by this.

>>33620625
I never implied you sucked off the entire force. Just 1 guy, I thought it might be romantic.

There's no reason cops need anything but a blue uniform and a hand gun.

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>>33620175
>Are police forces becoming more militarized or just updating themselves with the modern times?

Its one thing to update your department with modern tech and tactics and to use appropriately and responsibly.

It is totally retarded to buy MRAPs from govt and use them to rip doors off of peoples houses to serve a warrant because they MIGHT have drugs or too many tickets

>>33620650
Get the ropes boys we got us a faggot over here.

I said that becoming militarized and updating yourself with modern times are necessarily accompanying features; not to be exclusively applied to police.

It's your own statist-autistic fault you dream about guys blowing other guy cops all day.

Literally seek help.

>>33620716
>Seek help

If I dial 911 you think a cop will show up and maybe blow me?

>>33620248
But ARs aren't commonly used by criminals. So do they see lawful gun owners as a threat? This would be alarming.

>>33620175
I don't have a problem with police having whatever tools they need for the job, whether it's a full auto rifle or whatever, my problem is that they get that, and then the government sends them an MRAP or something or fuckloads of extra equipment and they don't often know how to cull the equipment they don't need from their kit. IE PVS-14's on helmets in broad daylight for a breach into a cramped appartment buiilding. Just general autism.

>>33620650
until people randomly started shooting nine of them a week because black lives matter or whatever faggot shit lefties will say these days. Increased threats have led to increased measures of survivability. Better to outgun six nigs than to care what the most likely faggots to be shooting at you think.

>>33620731
only if you fly a "thin blue line" flag on the back of your jacked up dodge super-duty.

>>33620779
>Police militarization is directly related to anti-nigger efforts.

A man can dream, right?

>>33620779
What increased threats? Tell me more about this hypothetical war on niggers.

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Why is this board so racist?

>>33620800
why are you so Un-American?

>>33620800
Go back to [rddit]

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>>33620800
its just a fantasy that underachieving tards believe in, they want a race so they feel useful and important

>>33620821
*race war

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>>33620800
Fuck off dumb leftist cunt.

>>33620812
>why are you so Un-American?
Probably because I'm German.

>>>33620814
>Go back to [rddit]
After you go back to stormfront.

>>33620821
Guess that makes sense.

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Its coming right for us!!

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>>33620175
Cops should be able to defend themselves with plate carriers and AR15s and shit just like everyone else.

>>33620800
Bugs the shit out of me too.

>>33620800
Because the average age of posters her is 10 and the average income is zero
They have no accomplishments and no future so they latch onto anything they can use to blame for their pathetic lives

>>33620192

I'm retired Army and think that cops are fucking redicous at this point. Why the fuck are they wearing ACU's/MARPAT/Multicam in city fucking streets. I have no problem with patrolmen having AR15's in their trunks; shit happens and they need to be equipped, but wearing tactical vests, having MRAPS, which are pieces of crap anyway, is totally unnecessary. I know it's a stereotype but seeing cops with this stuff really makes me think there is credence to the idea that cops are shitheads that couldn't hack it in the military so are playing soldier instead.

>>33620800
People who have no other achievements (e.g. NEET virgins) cling to their race identity to coopt others' achievements

>>33620800
I think there is a fair amount of hyperbole involved with the racism on the board. A lot isn't genuine. The other part is /pol/ shitheads and the rest is probably just good old fashioned ignorance.

>>33620857
>>33620874
>>33620878
These posts are correct

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The main reason was for counter terrorism in the 70s. Then the terrorists adapted and so on and so forth

>>33620868
>Why the fuck are they wearing ACU's/MARPAT/Multicam in city fucking streets.

How are they not committing stolen honor when they do this? I see ACU's on Cops all the time and how is dressing and pretending to be a soldier not stolen valor? Does black not work anymore?

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>>33620849
>because I'm German

Fuck off from this board then. You don't own any guns and your nation is a blight upon the rest of Europe. Your leftist gun-grabbing dumbfuckery is a cancer. Slam some more rapefugee cock.

Holy shit. I'd rather just have a little racism than 20 people trying to explain it. Shut the fuck up and go back to your safe zones.

>>33620800
I blame /pol/ and neets

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>>33620849
have you been culturally enriched yet today klaus?

>>33620175
Strawman

>>33620885

You know that's a picture of SAS right? And there hasn't been a single terrorist shootout in the US ever. Closest is West Hollywood and those guys weren't terrorists, they were bank robbers.

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>>33620895
This board has been getting infested with leftypol rejects since Trump won. They don't even make it subtle.

>>33620887

Wearing military surplus is not stolen valor.

>>33620902
No that's a picture of gign

>>33620868
>cops are shitheads that couldn't hack it in the military so are playing soldier instead.
That's an actual fact though not a stereotype

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>leftypol crying about muh raaaaaaayciiiism

>>33620902
First of all, read >>33620931
Second, LAPD got into a high speed chase AND a shootout with the San Bernadino christmas party terrorists

>>33620855
>Cops should be able to defend themselves with plate carriers and AR15s and shit just like everyone else.

Yeah and they should be black/blue. Color maters, symbols mater, and wearing the actual military uniforms should be illegal. Getting around pose comitatus by turning police into the military is still illegal. Let Cops have AR15's and the like, but I shouldn't be hard pressed to tell a sheriff and a light infantryman apart.

>>33620917
It's just faggotry in the first degree

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>>33620934
>>33620841
>>33620891
>>33620900
>>33620914
>posting all that shit
Christ, I am feeing the nerdrage coming from /pol/. Time to abandon board.

>>33620706
MRAPs are a great way to justify your budget and the DOHS has a bunch to sell

>>33620779
Pretty sure it's all prefitted for grab-n-go

>>33620800
Blame /pol/ and crime statistics in equal measure

>>33620841
>LOL IF YOU'RE NOT A NAZI YOU'RE A COMMIE

But yeah if departments don't spend money like crazy the DHS says "Lol you clearly don't need a million dollars, why ask for 750k when 500k will do? Here's 250k and bring me back 150k change"

>>33620931
>No that's a picture of gign

Why are they wearing S10's then? Something that has never been exported to anyone, including the US and France? Oh and the vest is a specialty assault vest developed SPECIFICALLY for SAS.

>>33620956
It happens all the time, they'll assimilate or go away just like every other time.

>>33620868

It's dumb and I can agree, but it also shows how overstated the "militerization" of the police is if people are arguing about them wearing camo over blue.

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>>33620956
Good. Fuck off and don't come back. This was a right-wing libertarian board before /pol/. Almost all gun control support in any countey comes from leftist parties.

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>>33620789
>>33620787
the reverse. A war on police at the behest of niggers. if you look up shit like the shooting in texas in which five cops were killed, or the more recent incidents where nine cops were killed in a week or even more incidents occurring yet in which niggers just run up to the car and shoot into the window, you can understand the desire to not die in a nigger related incident. This is probably the most times I typed nigger to a single post on the internet except the time I transcribed the lyrics of gangsta rap: nigga nigga nigga. or something like that.

>>33620980
>The Home Guard could only exist in a country where men feel themselves free. The totalitarian states can do great things, but there is one thing they cannot do: they cannot give the factory-worker a rifle and tell him to take it home and keep it in his bedroom. THAT RIFLE HANGING ON THE WALL OF THE WORKING-CLASS FLAT OR LABOURER'S COTTAGE, IS THE SYMBOL OF DEMOCRACY. IT IS OUR JOB TO SEE THAT IT STAYS THERE.
- George Orwell

>>33620980
>This was x board

No it wasn't you dumb cunt. It was always libertarian in nature with no hard leaning to left or right, full of glorious literal faggots, furries, deviants, weebs, and the occasional trap.

Now it's pretty much that with you /pol/pots shitting up /k/ much the same way Germany shits up the EU.

>>33620993
Please go back to /pol/

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>>33620946
No, that's fucking stupid. Cops who are in a firefight with criminals should get the added benefit of concealment with their gear. The criminals can choose to do the same. If homeless faggots walk around in camo, anyone should be able to.

>>33620996
Not even him but you either don't live around niggers or you are one yourself.

>>33620963
>LOL IF YOU'RE NOT A NAZI YOU'RE A COMMIE

"Why don't we justify them hating us and our efforts to censor them and invade them" They ask right after they lose any debate of reason, then they go back to calling anyone who doesn't swallow their faggot narrative a nazi.

And you wonder WHY we can tell you're from reddit.

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>>33620956
Bud, I haven't been on /pol/ since 2013, If you go on a board known for being extremely pro gun, don't call /pol/ when you try to defend antigun political ideologies and nations. play stupid games win stupid prizes, if you don't want drama, don't go looking for it

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>>33620966
Since when do brits use spas 12s

>>33620977

It matters. There are laws in this country, and everyone has to follow them. And a core law is that the military can't police the citizenry. Turning the police into the military is not a clever way around that. It's still illegal. And symbols matter. Black works fine, there is no rationale for Cops to be wearing ACU's. I also don't like them wearing their bullet proof vests outside their uniform. It makes it look like they are EXPECTING trouble. And if there's that much trouble they are expecting it, it's cause they suck at their job. There's an overall problem with civilian police in the US right now, and I think it's the attitude of the cops themselves. They join to 'fight crime" which means everyone is a criminal until proven otherwise. Not 'serve the community' which is what they are actually supposed to do.

Like I said, I don't mind them carrying an AR15. There are times you need more punch. But I don't like them wearing *my* uniform and playing soldier in the streets.

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>>33620991
What a completely irrelevant quote you stupid fuck. History has shown thay time and time again, all leftist regimes had draconian gun laws, and almost all gun control gets passed by leftist parties. Orwell being "pro-gun" doesn't negate this trend. I love how leftists pretend they are pro-gun, but after their shitty revolution succeeds, they implement exttemely restrictive gun control. It's the only way your shitty ideology can remain in power and mass-murder.

>>33621020
"If they don't hate everyone that isn't white they're a communist from leddit!"

And this is WHY we know you're from /pol/.

>>33621012
I'm white and lived in a ghetto most of my life. Real life isn't a Zyklon Ben comic.

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>>33620980
>>33620996
So now we're all Libertarian. Funny how none of you cocksuckers supported Rand. I mean Trump is better than Hillary, but way to be some Johnny come-latelys.

>>33621033
>>33621021
>>33620981
>>33620980
>>33620934
>>33620914
>>33620900
>>33620891


>>>/pol/ is that way.

>>33621042
>Implying I didn't

He's still mai hiro and his caucus is the only one I respect

>>33621052
Always report /pol/ posts

>>33621026

cont'

They didn't earn the right to wear those uniforms and as such they shouldn't wear them. For the same reason we don't like seeing people wear medals they don't earn, wearing a uniform you didn't earn is, imo, way worse. A medal is for the individual, but the uniform represents the idea and the unit, and wearing something that you didn't earn means you are potentially (mis)representing an organization to which you are not a member of.

>>33621052
It's too easy. You just have to look for the autistic pictures.

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>>33620996
You're new and stupid as fuck. This board has had nigger defense threads since 2010, and threads making fun of nigger gat threads before /pol/. And it has always been a pro-private business and private property board. It's right-wing libertarian perfectly summed up by the "don't tread on me" snek flag.

You're a cretin from /r/guns or leftypol who only recently started browsing. Whenever somebody types "nigger" you autistically screech /pol/. Make like Marx's whore daughters and kill yourself.

>>33621034
So you're a wiggers then, may as well be a nigger. Ever live where there are no niggers? It's great. You can leave your doors unlocked 24/7. You can leave your car running while you run in a store real quick. You don't have to worry about violent crime or avoiding certain areas of town. It's great!

>>33621052
this is a political post, so until it gets sent to /pol/ you can fuck off, if your only talking point is go back to /pol/ you need to do some serious thinking about your positions and your opinions

>>33621074

>>>/pol/

Go away.

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>>33621070
this, senpai

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>>33620418
Muh wrong generation

>>33620996
>please go back to /pol/
>statistics are racist now
You're a stupid cunt. I don't care that you met "respectable black men". The truth is that niggers are the greatest predicator or violent crime and homicide rates in the US. Even much more than poverty. Only dumb fuck leftists get upset at this fact.

>>33620175
there is a definite trend of militarization in the police forces. it's ridiculous really. the cops wearing vests is perfectly fine in my book tho. they can go level 3 for all i care why not? my problem is more like with the weapons. cops use their guns too much because they are insecure as fuck. less dakka more plates imo. and bigger focus on non-lethal options.

>>33621026

>But I don't like them wearing *my* uniform

You sound like a reservist.

>>33621070
Marx's daughters were whores? Anything juicy?

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>>33621080

>>33621070
I've been here since '06, friendo. I remember the chimpout threads and 10/10 times it wasn't the hyper-aggressive GAS THEM ALL RACE WAR NOW that /pol/ insists on with 100% seriousness.

/k/ used to be the slowest board, but I bet you don't remember that because you're part of the post-2008 newfag influx.

>>33621071
No, autist, being poor as a kid does not make me a wigger. Imagine that; economic status has a greater correlation to crime than race. Who'd have fucking thought?

>>33621085
At what point did I say statistics were racist

A margin of the population committing the most crimes is most certainly a problem

Suggesting that it has everything to do with race and nothing else is also a problem

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>ask one question

>the entire thread gets derailed

I didn't mean for this to happen OP.

>>33620914

So like did he constantly go on a rampage in the People's Republic of Poland?

>>33621109
>>33621083
>>33621081
>>33621070
>must post /pol/ meme

The door is >>>/pol/ that way bros.

>>33620868
It's the militarizing of our society. Cops being absurdly sheepish tend to follow trends to the extreme.

>>33621121
I don't see people posting "hurr race war nao" in this thread you stupid dumb leftist fuck. People said niggers and you sperged out about /pol/ because you're new and a leftypol retard.

>it isn't because of race
Even when controlling for socioeconomic factors, black percentage is the best predictor of homicide rates you stupid fuck. Kill yourself.

>>33621007
Different anon, but i disagree with you. A cop should not be concealed. They are authorized to use deadly force, and I fully support defending them. But wtf good is multicam in an urban environment? It's reckless, offers no tactical advantage, and only contributes to the image of police militarization.

>>33621131
We're not you "bros," reddit fag. Get out, you communist cretin.

>>33621131
bruh, your newfag is showing, go back to /b/ or /out/ if you can't handle different people's ideas, no matter how dumb they may be, just make your counter point. you sound like a faggot when you can't even defend why you feel such a way. words are great because they let you convey your ideas, so do that you dumb nigger, instead of crying "muh pol"

>>33621161
>He still thinks I'm a leftist because I don't hate people for their race

>Wanting genocide is a prerequisite for being right-of-center according to /pol/

Wew, the /pol/ runs strong in you.

>I will endlessly shout correlation != causation but then assert that correlation is, in fact, causation

The double-think is real

>>33621161
>leftist fuck
>stupid fuck
>kill yourself

Uh hey kid, are you off your fucking meds or something?

>>33621103

I was an 11B for what it's worth. And I no more like a cop wearing my uniform than some fucking mall ninja. And quite frankly, a fucking pog who never got away from a desk in DC has more of a right to wear an issue uniform than a cop that couldn't even make it through BCT.

>>33621188
>He thinks 4chan has ever been about debate and convincing anyone about anything

Holy fuck, and you call others new

>>33621175
>>33621188


You still don't get it.

HERE'S THE LINK GUISE >>>/pol/

>>33621191
You're making a lot of assumptions and projecting because you're a dumb leftist. Point out where I said kill all nigger race war nao you dumb cunt. You're sperging out because people have pointed out the factual claim thay niggers commit an overwhelming majority of violent crime and this is poorly explained by socioeconomic factors.

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>>33621173
>wtf good is multicam in an urban environment?

Cops (and criminals) aren't just in urban areas. There's a time and place for camouflage.

>>33621202
>Other people are jerking each other off so it gives me the excuse to just respond with go back to /pol/ XD
now everyone can see that you don't even carre baout havig actual conversation, which this thread was originally about, but that fuckstick made that bait post about racism and went off on a tangent about /pol/. please either go back to /b/ or get some actual conversation skills you fucking autist

>>33621131

>GO AWAY
>REEEEEEEE

Hahah you have no power here faggot.

>>33621262
>that fuckstick made that bait post about racism
Jesus guy, it wasn't that ridiculous of a post. I think you just got really triggered. Safe space ahead >>>/pol/

>>33621026
>>33621058

I agree with your first paragraph but holy shit man
>muh uniform

I'm .mil myself and you sound like a faggot.
They're defending and serving the nation same as us, just a different way. The issue is like you originally started, purpose. If the issue is so great that militarized vehicles and cammo uniforms are needed, then the national guard needs to do its job and mobilize to respond- like they were intended for originally as an extension of the governor.

>>33620902
SAS didn't wear the piss yellow visors AFAIK.

>>33621235
Earlier in this thread you literally said not hating niggers makes you a leftist shill from reddit

Like dude what the fuck, stop smoking bathsalts, the only one sperging here is you

Being poor itself doesn't automatically mean crime

Putting a shitton of poor people next to each other with shit education and a subculture that's been bastardized most certainly does, as evidenced by your average whiskey tango trailer parks being rife with drug epidemics because life fucking sucks

You're the one that's been assuming shit this entire thread, I've only worked with what you give me

Believe it or not, hating black people isn't a requirement to be right or libertarian, and I'm both

>>33621262
>I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 2016 THE POST

There's a safe space for you, and it's not this board

both /pol/ and /k/ are retarded as all hell when it comes to politics

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>muh big fat racist white people with guns

>>33621294

>You guys are triggered
>REEE GO AWAY
>GO AWAY FROM THIS BOARD

How mentally challenged are you?

>>33621249

There isn't. Camo is optimized to work at ranges exceeding 300 yards. They don't have firefights at those ranges. And if they do, the cops are wrong, as they now pose a greater danger to society than the criminal does (for the same reason they back off in high speed chases 90% of the time). It's also illegal, in a broad sense, for them to use the same uniforms issued to US Soldiers. Not guns or trucks, but the uniforms specifically. Uniform laws are both national and international and by GIVING them the same uniforms you issue to soldiers, you are defacto creating a militia, and militias are just as bared from policing civilians as the Army is. And Military grade camo is almost a contradiction in terms. If camo was really the objective, they'd be wearing Mossy Oak or even one of the various (better) foreign camos. No they choose Multicam, ACU (UCP), and MARPAT cause it's what the big boys they wish they were, use.

>>33621121
>economic status has a greater correlation to crime than race.
And "economic status" is influenced by race.

>>33621214
>OMG I CAN'T EVEN! LEAVE, OR I CAN'T FEEL SAFE ON YOUR BOARD!!!!
This ain't your safe space princess, gtfo.

>>33621294
its not that they dislike racism, its that they posted it with the sole purpose of derailing a good thread

>>33621311
Hey you should put Alton Brown in that right column.

>>33621318
You're not wrong, technically

It has a lot to do with the housing projects that we thought would help uplift minorities but fucked them over even harder

Then the Grand Society bullshit fucked them over even harder

Welfare continues to fuck them over even more

>>33621310
The only faggots who talk politics on /k/ are from /pol/. That's the retard correlation.

>>33621301
>They're defending and serving the nation same as us, just a different way.

No they aren't. First of all, if I behaved the way cops did on a deployment, I'd get NJP'd right out the ass, and deserve it rightly. Two, they aren't defending the country. That's not their job. That's the military's job. They are supposed to SERVE the people. And wearing fucking ACU, which makes 0 fucking (UCP doesn't even work as a camo, its more akin to a dispersion pattern like a WWI/WWII era warship paint job) sense, does not help them serve the populace one bit. Black works fine and as a symbol, and symbols matter, clearly delineates between civilians, and the military.

>>33621318

Not really.

You can compare and EE shithole like Moldova with a much richer country from South America and it has less crime.

>>33621249
Issue is that city cops are being issued it.

Next question is, what is the purpose of a manhunt? It's not a search and destroy, it's to find the person and bring them to justice by a trial of peers. My personal opinion is camouflage does not contribute to that goal.

Being a cop leaves you at a disadvantage, as a milfag that's why I respect them, their job is infinitely more complex and dangerous over a life time.

>Tl;dr: cops can defend themselves but camo detracts from their purpose of bringing people to be tried in court.

>>33621316
>Military grade camo
Did...you get this from the anti-guns or something? Camo is just camo. It is not in and of itself a military uniform. SWAT officers have used ghillie suits to conceal their snipers and SAVE PEOPLE'S LIVES in hostage standoff situation. To deprive law enforcement of the tools necessary to effectively defend themselves and thereby effectively defend others is wholly irresponsible. Your argument that uniforms are what define the difference between soldiers and law enforcement is not representative of anything whatsoever written in founding documents.

>>33621310
>/k/ and /pol/ are retarded because they're not prepping the bull and lining up to turn in their guns.
Do you know where you are? You're in Australia, you dumb didgeridoo playing abo cunt!

>>33621401
I'm sure that little baby's life was just SO saved when Lon shot Vicky Weaver in the face, I'm SO glad, or she might have continued breastfeeding, and we wouldn't want that to happen now, would we?

>>33621392
See: >>33621401

Also I'd imagine that most stocks of fire-retardant / super durable pants come in camo. Standard black slacks are pretty shitty for what cops have to do

>>33621424
Whelp, looks like you threw in the towel.

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>>33620868
considering that acus are fucking useless, I think swat should use it exclusively.

>>33621392

In a manhunt it might allow you to spot the target before they spot you and as such get closer and apprehend rather than kill them.

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>>33621450
>implying...?
I'm just shitposting, who the fuck do you think I am? hell, I even posted this post I'm replying to!

>>33621424
>lolATF agents used camo to help them murder innocent people
>there should be no camo in law enforcement

>cops abused their power
>there should be no cops

Just like guns, things should not be banned or regulated because people have used them for nefarious purposes.

>>33621474
kek, I haven't even brought up camo, that's another anon entirely. I just like shitting on the ATF.

>>33621473
>hell, I even posted this post I'm replying to!
Nope, you're just wrong.

>>33621410
>putting words in my mouth

>>33621350

Bro, step back, calm down. If anything, cops are doing infinitely more for the communities than we were shooting goat fuckers and throwing piss bottles at kids. I would consider arresting a drunk driver, or busting a violent gang defending the community. But you're welcome to your own interpretations.

I feel like you are insanely fixated on the bad publicity cops have been getting. The same way "that guy" in the battalion ruins it, is the same way cops are. Most are normal, understanding guys who just want to get home by the end of the day, but there's always "that guy".

And I don't know why you're arguing with me about them not wearing camo, I stated off my first post with agreeing cops should not wear camo because of the symbolism.

>>33621307
No you fucking idiot. I said bitching and moaning about muh raaaaaaayciiiism when people say niggers makes you a leftist moron. Explain why poverty and education rates poorly explains black crime, and why the poorest and least educated areas in the US (white applachian america) have lower violent crime than the national average. You can't. So fuck off back to plebbit or continue stomping your feet crying about /pol/ you child. The richest niggers have higher crime rates than the poorest whites.

https://randomcriticalanalysis.wordpress.com/2015/11/16/racial-differences-in-homicide-rates-are-poorly-explained-by-economics/

>>33621487
prove I didn't, abo cunt.

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>>33620175
reminder

>>33621495
Someone asked why the board was racist, I said /pol/, and then you started throwing a shitfit identical to one of a spoiled child

The only one stomping their feet is you, and your posts read like you're frothing at the mouth

You went on to say that not being racist makes someone a lefty

'ere you go https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5137

>>33621495
>Friendly Reminder: /k/ is a board devoted to weapons and military equipment. Discussions about politics or current events belong on /pol/.
>>>/pol/

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>>33620769
>So do they see lawful gun owners as a threat? This would be alarming.
(((Lawful))) gun owners threat government with overthrow. Yes this is alarming and they are primary threat.

>>33621428
>>33621455

While these are valid points, my personal opinion that you're free to disagree with is whatever the current issued military fatigues should not be shared with the police force for symbolic reasons. A different camo would be acceptable. I know it's semantics, but as a country with clearly defined jurisdictions and separation of power its unbecoming to have a police force in the same uniforms as the military.

If the issue is that dire than a state of martial law needs to be declared and the national guard mobilized.

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>>33621500
Fine.

>>33621551
I'm not disagreeing with you on principal, only logistics

The DHS doesn't give departments much liberty in choosing the finer details of their equipment and more or less comes down to:

"So and so department says the need pants"

"Cool, grab a pallet from the warehouse and send it off"

>>33621583
>But at what cost?

There's plenty of options out there, and while pds are individual entities, state wide policies of understanding, or even regional would really help with acquisition cost. People are just too lazy to do the work.

>>33621580
I'm still waiting on that "proof" I diidn't post the post I replied to, or that I brought up camo.

>>33621609
It's in the picture >>33621580 newfag.

>>33620175
Its literally a constitutional right for us to be militarized

Fucking liberals know nothing about their rights or the constitution, where does this all stem from?

Is it the Europeans? I think its the Europeans, the liberal and jewish ones at least

>>33621609
Nobody claimed you brought up camo.

>>33621605
Agreed, but you'd also have to restructure the existing bureaucracies to make it happen

Shit's a pain in the ass

>>33620800
Freedom of speech bitch

deal with it

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>>33621649
not what my screen says, fucking disingenuous fag.

>>33621666
>satan trips of strawman
He never attacked the 1st amendment.

>>33620175

that's right goyim the police NEED tanks and drones because of that outdated dangerous 2nd amednment

if we just got rid of that archaic 2nd amendment everything would be perfect: police would demilitarize, gun crime would disappear, mass killings would never happen, innocent black bodies wouldn't be killed in the streets. instead you racist antisemitic trump voting goyim choose your toys over your countrymen!

>>33621650
Not like we haven't had the past two centuries and remainder of eternity to get it done amirite?

But yeah it's a huge hassle.

>>33621690
Point is they can be as racist as they want, especially on a Nepalese Finger Coloring Emporium

Besides we've always been saying nigger and other racist shit on here, you get used to it and it starts becoming endearing after a while to be sincerely honest famalam

>>33621736
No doubt but once you've been here long enough it's easy to separate the chill use of nigger from /pol/ use of nigger

>>33620175
arent the leftists the ones complaining about the police looking big and scary? thats some pretty big mental gymnastics

>>33620868
Cops get MRAPS because it's literally cheaper for the feds to give them away than to keep and maintain them in storage.

>>33621752
Eh, fuckin' /pol/ always has to be there to take everything on here to the next level

We're catching all the effluvia thats pouring over that board, all the stormies who think we'll buy their bullshit commies thinking we'll but their bullshit, nazis and plebbit translpants who freak at the liberal use of nigger on the board

I just want to shitpost about ARs and bitch about how a fudd put a saw to my 1897 before I bought it

>>33620800
THIS THIS THIS every time I see a Nazi I just think about how fucking great it would be if he was murdered and his entire family was raped beaten and left for dead in an African American neighborhood to let them have some revenge
Fucking Nazis deserve to be burned alive I don't fucking care if they're man woman child whatever they are the most retarded backwards racist pieces of shit on the planet and the same goes to fascists/ Republicans/ alt-right/ conservatives/ libertarians/ whatever they're all the same damn thing just a different name to disguise they're hate. Hate is a weapon and the only way to fight against it is complete and total annihilation

>>33620544

>Columbine

No. It wasn't. The reason was that LA crime wave caused by a bunch of guys in body armor and using ARs. That led to cops being forced to take up ARs themselves to counter it and they realised that limiting cops to sidearms and shotguns when everyone else can get semi-auto rifles is retarded.

The problem is more that cops shouldn't be getting non-civilian equipment unless civilians too can get it. They aren't an army. They are civil law upholders and shouldn't be using shit that others can't get.

Police are essentially a paid militia that operate under the parameters over a council and enforce a bunch of rules the council determines are worth running.

>>33621806
>>/pol/

>>33621769
Yeah but they also want them to come after all of who own guns

If mental gymnastics were featured at the olympics liberals would get every available gold

>>33621784
It happens at least once a year

Night/k/ goodness is now limited to like a four hour span between 2 and 6 am cst

>>33621806
Holy mother of god this some nuclear level bait

I bet people still fall for it

>>33621348
(You)

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>>33621834
its not bait its very clear everyone in this thread agrees with me if you were actually paying atension but I know thats hard for your small racist nazi brain. your the odd man out so I suggest you fuck off back to pol fuckhead.
the picture is you by the way lol thats how mad you are that k is a progressive board and theres nothing you can do about it

>>33620800
It's a meme you dip.

Also darkies are the number 1 enemy of gun owners.

>>33621859
I haven't seen that image in years, I'm saving it without your permission

>>33621859
do you even own any guns

nigger

>>33621859
It isn't working bud.

>>33621880
>>33621859
samefag

>>33621026
You're forgetting the fact that the uniform cops wear today originated from surplus Navy uniforms.

>>33621868
I dont care as long as you dont use it on a nazi board
>>33621880
not ansering a fuckhead who casually uses the n word
>>33621882
cry more nazi boi

>>33620868
>MRAPS, which are pieces of crap anyway
Wait, but aren't MRAPs better than humvees?

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>>33621897
wat, also nice 1897 digits

>>33621922
no guns /po/ack detected

>>33620966
Since when do SAS use MR73s, SPAS 12s, and those huge fucking visor helmets?

>>33621988
Im not noguns

>>33621973
They are more armored. That's it. They are slower, heavier, have way worse control, and are less reliable than humvees.

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>>33620868
Shut the fuck up welfare queen and drink your free beer some faggot bought you.

>>33621998
>welfare queen

Anon, you have to NOT be working to be a welfare queen, last I checked milfags get taxed too

Niggers on welfare dont

>>33621033
there are tons and tons of leftists who believe in strong political freedoms and the right to bear arms. and I mean proper leftists, not Democrats. one scourge of authoritarianism doesn't mean all leftists hate guns, that's like saying all conservatives want to throw political dissidents out of helicopters.

>>33620996
Bitch I've been on 4chan I remember when newfag meant someone from newgrounds, I've been here since the inception of /k/ and it was ALWAYS like what you call /pol/. You are the cancerous, invasive species that needs to go- not everyone you call /pol/. Ever wonder why they seem to outnumber you? Because they do fucktard.

>>33620192
> wanting daddy government to come save you from scurry coloreds and libruls

Truly disgusting. A heavily armed constabulary is a threat to the whole concept of "consent of the governed." Fuck off with your authoritarian nu-right bullshit and go back to watching cuck porn and projecting your faggy little fetish on everybody you seem spoopy.

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>>33622017
woah there friend, are you one of those /r/the_donald migrants I've seen around? sorry pal, but 4chan is a very diverse imageboard, and not everyone on here adheres to your close minded ideas. if you wish to spread your cuckservative cancer around, I suggest you head to /pol/, or even better, back to /r/the_donald.

>>33620902
>And there hasn't been a single terrorist shootout in the US ever.
>He doesn't remember the BLA

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I honestly don't get the, "Cops were so much nicer in the old days" meme. Law Enforcement is more cucked than ever due to things like Tennessee v. Garner, Graham v. Conner, Miranda, etc, etc.

>>33622053
It heavily depends on where you lived. A lot of cops are more paranoid these days, which is really just a trend of people being more paranoid and less trusting of their communities in general.

>>33622048
your bubble is pretty thick

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>>33620175
>> i miss when this day /k/are shit didnt exist
>> i miss when we would tell stories of dumb shit happening in a comical manner
>> i miss when i could get on here and get in a actual debate over cartridge ballistics and then end it in shit posting after we all agreed
>> i miss all the funny hand drawn comics of the adventures of /k/
>> i miss when this board was about weapons

>>33620769
>But ARs aren't commonly used by criminals.
Yet many civilian gun owners use ARs for home defense against criminals.

I'm sensing a double standard here.

>>33622131
Whatever you say, reddit :')

>>33620868
It's all because costs anon. Sure some departments sperg it out. But there's plenty that use surplus gear given to them by the military because it's the cheapest effective option they have available. And what the fuck is wrong with having a vehicle that's bulletproof and explosion resistant on hand?

>>33622150
>REEEEEEEE YOURR RACIST GTFO NAAAAZZZIII
>having the audacity to call me reddit
5/10 I bit the bait

>>33620970
>>33620956
I thought they only shit up /mlp/ and /g/ but it looks like their autism truly knows no bounds.

>>33620559
>I believe every thing the school teaches me
Are you retarded?

>>33621316
You should watch Brent 0331. Camo is definitely effective inside of 300 yards. Sure a hunter's camo is better in forested areas than the old army UCP.

>military uniforms are illegal for LE use
I'm gonna need more than your opinion to validate that.

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>>33621070
This.

Also, the police shouldn't run around like airsofters who got their first real AR's. They're not out there to be Judge Dredd, they're out there to serve the community. If they really gave a shit about COIN, then they'd be walking a beat and getting embedded into the communities they patrol. Not rolling around in SUV's like it's the West Bank

>>33622221
>brent0331

Fucking love that guy, I love gettign stoned and watching his OPFOR target acquisition videos

>>33621318
>And "economic status" is influenced by race.
Correlation =/= Causation.

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>>33621301
>They're defending and serving the nation same as us, just a different way.

No they're not. Did you have the power to arrest and detain someone for white and grins? Did you have the ability to carry your weapon to the barracks or on your person? No. You can't cite ROE for being downrange and apply it to cops in Richmond VA. CONUS the military is muzzled and you fucking know it. Citing behaviors of the 3rd ID in Ramadi doesn't excuse some mouthbreather with a badge wearing full battlerattle at a high school football game.

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>>33620175
>That image
>Implying its not the other way around
It would always be the militarized police telling the civilian to demilitarize because they want to be the ones with all the power.

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>you first

They don't have to hold their end of the bargain.

>>33620248
Except ARs are almost never used in crime because they're expensive and hard to conceal.

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>>33620418

>>33620868
How else is millitary industrial complex going to earn some easy cash?

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>>33620175

They're basically just LARPing as Judge Dredd

>>33622510
i'm willing to bet at least half those people had it coming
there's no context to this.

>>33620868
But cops are actually smarter than your average infantryman..


Check mate

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>>33622528

Define how someone who's unarmed and handcuffed could have it coming.

>>33620201
>implying the cops are any more modern

My department just got us level 3 plates and carriers for our trunks a few months ago. The most modern thing they give me is tritium night sights for my turd gen Smith and Wesson semi auto that's not even in production anymore.

A few specialized units getting fancy toys doesn't equate to wholesale militarization.

>>33622541
by being a cheeky cunt

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>>33622568

Come and get one in the yarbles, if ya have any yarbles, you eunuch jelly thou!

>>33622216
When it's true. You fucking dope.

Are you denying it? Not even a cop would deny it.

>>33621998
You seem fuzzy on the concept of welfare, which is strange for a neet.

>>33622541

>that screenshot

Listen, fella, I'm okay with you being a queer and all, but that pic is a little risque. Please take it elsewhere

>>33622608
>>33622510
>this is typical

You're implying way too hard for your own good.

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>>33622541
if theyre niggers
I'm not trying to defend cops who blow off the handle. hell theres a lot of cops who deserve the gallows. but dont imply you would handle the same situations like fucking Jesus and turn the other cheek to every scum that spits in your face

>>33620614

that is just pure greed

if their idea of a path to funding lies through shitting on the constitution and assaulting homeowners on the flimsiest of excuses, then they are shitty people who need to be put down

>>33622608
oie ill sling my limp walky dingles right into your chops you fugging bugger

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>>33622185
spew some more memes to make it seem like your with the in crowd faggot

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>>33620175
this
>>33620192

This comic is just plainly false.
Gun bubbas and /k/ommandos respect the law and the po-po and dont give a fuck about their gear. Its faggy liberals who want to instate gommunism that whine and bitch when their homie Tyrone gets shot by white store keepers over $34 and a pack of swishers.

I dont see any gun owners with MRAPS or other amored vehicles either. I dont see the big fucking deal with owning more than one gun as you can only use one at a time and can only practically carry 2 at a time. Absolutely no one wears belts of fucking ammo FFS

>>33622421
I would absolutely bet a good number of SWAT officers in Mass. are war veterans.

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>>33621988
>implying he is a /pol/lack

You clearly dont know a thing about /pol/
This faugette is clearly lost from L e ddit or Tumblr, mostly Facebook.

>>33621922
Fuck off niggerfaggot before I gas you in your sleep

>>33622048
Holy shit didn't realize it got this big... most threads feel like the same 8 people just shitposting

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>>33622028
The law protects Tyrone robbing your house well before your right to shoot him dead. The media also succesfully pushes marxist doctrines onto stupid fucking normies with incredible efficiency.

You libertarian dipshits are even more delusional than the liberals he is complaining about. You think you will be able to simply mind your own business while greater society withers all around you.

Without taking sides in the political climate of today, we can see from history that aggressive expansionary human forces will always, ALWAYS come for weaker populations to take everything from them. It's happening now dipshit. You already know the US and Europe have fuck-all of a birthrate while muslims and blacks pour in and have entire litters aggressive little shitheads while whites (the only people who make western civ tick) are "waiting for a while after marriage when everything is settled and me and Susan have done all of our traveling"

You're going to wake up tomorrow and be 50 years old and your country will be full of communist and islamic faggots destroying your comfortable way of life because you chose to look the other way so you wouldnt be labeled "racist" or other scary name. Wake the fuck up moron, we are in the dying stages of an Empire. See how well your democracy works for you when you sat on your ass preaching muh liberty for all trash while your rights and way of life were picked away by decades of subversion.

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>>33622048
>phone posters started to appear when smartphones became popular

Wow its fucking nothing! It's literally just a medium for posting the exact shit I would post at home on a PC.

KYS

>niggers shooting each other at alarming rates
>Obama giving firearms to cartels
>Muslims doing Muslim things
>tinfoil hat "don't bred on meh :DD" autists

They are militarizing, but there's a reason why.

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>>33622286
Fixed

>>33622713
See how the PC user group is relatively the same?

It's just mostly the same people posting from mobile for convenience. It's fucking nothing.

>>33622048
t. Bernout

>>33621392
I live directly in the middle of my city (not a huge city but decently large) and it's basically manicured woods with houses and roads throughout it.

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>>33620706
Damn that ass so big it bends the light around it.

>>33622821
no no dont pick on the libertarians they're upholding the future of our culture and republic by doing absolutely nothing to stop the sweep demographic shifts in race and political affiliation.

I'm sure everything will work out fine for them and no one will ever tread on them!

>>33622048
People post from phone because they actually have responsibilities like a job, shopping, and friendships. Not everyone lives in a basement with pappy's Garand and mommybux.

>>33620868
>no problem with patrol with ar15 in the trunk
I am surprised it's taken them this long to do this, been way too many big profile shoot outs where cops bring handguns to a long gun fight

>>33622048

8/10 breddy good trolling

Anyone who doesnt think that /k/ hasnt been racist clearly wasnt around for the wordfilter/redguard threads. Lots and lots of the self-defense threads and storytimes have a pretty distinct thing in common over the years (protip its that the person breaking into their car/house was a redguard)

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I'll just leave this here.

>>33622906
wtf I love starving in a commie block now

>>33622906
>Marx's opinion is more relevant that a constitutional amendment that's been in place for 200+ years
wow I love communism now

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>>33622906
>unless of course the state is coming for any property OTHER than your guns. Then you give it up or get gulag-d

No step

>>33622798
>The law protects Tyrone robbing your house well before your right to shoot him dead

A child's understanding of law and morality.

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>>33622905
>Lots and lots of the self-defense threads and storytimes have a pretty distinct thing in common over the years (protip its that the person breaking into their car/house was a redguard)

The stories and information posted here are autistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

>>33622337
This is cringe worthy.

Everyone in this thread is retarded and should consider an oral buckshot exist strategy.

>>33620418
Blatant racism- REPORTED!

>>33622953
Doesn't change the theme, you autist. The point went right over your head.

>>33622963
>adding to the statistics
Enjoy having Feinstein taking your guns.

>>33622948
>a child's ad hom reponse to criticism of the law

Listen faggot, if Jamal breaks into your house and hurts himself as he crawls through your shattered window, he can sue you and win.

If you shoot Tyrone and he lives, he can sue you and win.

If you are minding your own business is the in street and a gang of niggers starts harrassing you and the only thing you can do to get them to leave you alone is fuck them up, you are the one who gets in trouble.

Wake the fuck up to what's happening in your country. You can say "no snek no steb" all fucking day but the law does not give a fuck about your mantra. You will almost always lose. Good people always lose.

>>33622998
>implying anyone notices male suicide
No one will care when you're gone.

>>33620706
>>33622953
BBBBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

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Oh yes...very good!....very sloppy and wet my dear....hmmmmm...is that a drop of nugget I see on the rim?...hmmmm.....let me.....let me just have a little taste before the sniff my darling.......hmmmmm....hmm..yes....that is a delicate bit of chocolate my dear....ah yes....let me guess...curry for dinner?....oh quite right I am....aren't I?....ok....time for sniff.....sssssnnnnnnniiiiiiiiffffffff.....hmmm...hhhmmmmm I see...yes....yes indeed as well curry......hmmm....that fragrance is quite noticeable....yes.....onion and garlic chutney I take it my dear?.....hmmmmm....yes quite.....

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Oh I was not expecting that…that little gust my dear….you caught me off guard…yes…so gentle it was though…hmmmm…let me taste this little one…just one small sniff…..sniff…ah….ssssssnnnnnniiiiiffffffffffff…and yet…so strong…yes…the odor….sniff sniff…hmmm….is that….sniff….hmmm….I can almost taste it my dear…..yes….just…sniff….a little whiff more if you please…..ssssssnnnnnniiiiiffffffffff…ah yes I have it now….yes quite….hhhhmmmm…delectable my dear…..quite exquisite yes…..I dare say…sniff….the most pungent one yet my dear….ssssnnnnniiiifffffffffffffffffffffff….yes….

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>>33623012
Just out of curiosity, how old are you?

>>33623021
These are only funny when theyre originally posted

>>33623012

you are wrong on all counts. even in states with duty to retreat laws, the first point is wrong.

you know nothing about current jurisprudence so stop talking about it, your autism is embarassing

>>33623029
25, not that it makes a difference

>>33621859
go be a nigger somewhere else

>>33623047
>not that it makes a difference

It does

If you were 12 then you can chalk this up to hormonal imbalance and angst

At 25 you have no excuses, just kys

>>33623036
You absolute dumbfuck. These are well known cases

http://www.cracked.com/article_20605_5-victims-horrible-crimes-who-got-sued-by-criminal.html

http://blog.uslawshield.com/intruder-gets-shot-sues-homeowner/

These things DO happen despite your unwavering ignorance and support of the laws that you don't understand.

>>33623062
Amazing, you've managed to post at least 3 times criticizing me with ameteur hour ad hominem yet say nothing of value at all

>>33621859
newfag or shitty troll

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>>33623012
My sweet summer child

>>33623094
>in the two relevant lawsuits, they were both dismissed with prejudice
>last case is some dumb drunk stumbling into the wrong house, as opposed to a deliberate home invasion that you describe

Pro-tip: context matters, mens rea matters. Your REEEEEEE outrage does not matter.

>complain about ad hominem
>starts off the first reply with "listen faggot"

whewlad

>>33623094

>http://www.cracked.com/article_20605_5-victims-horrible-crimes-who-got-sued-by-criminal.html

lol, in 4 of those 5 the criminal ended up worse off or losing the case, and the 5th one was in Bongistan where you'd better bin that knife.

The last article says nothing of the actual outcome but it was in Commiefornia, and even it has a castle law. So it may be a huge pain, they're likely going to be legally in the clear.

Alright folks pack it up, we've had our "fun" its just a shitty troll.

>>33623094
did you even read these articles

>>33620175
I think it's fine with their telltale black stuff and jumpsuits, but it's clear they're LARPing when they put on the multicam and drive the MRAPs around like patrol cars. They should only use MRAPs (they should have Lenco Bears instead) for stuff like riots and SWAT.

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>>33620192
Liberals are such faggots

>>33620878
t. nigger

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>>33620800

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>>33623329
Holy shit, was this real? If so, that was fucked up but so goddamn hilarious at the same time.

Cops are people too desu

SHALL

>>33620418

>that g3

I wish, bro.

>>33623382
thats what she gets for being a coalburner
she's fucking lucky she didnt become a statistic up to that

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>>33621070
Excellent post. Commies and niggers shouldn't even have 2A rights.

>>33623328
Pretty much this.

Our county sheriff has one M113 that they bring out every once in a blue moon for standoffs and SWAT stuff. Last time I remember them actually using it was a few years back when they drove it through some dude's wall to make a breach for SWAT who had his wife hostage.

None of our municipal units have anything like that though, not that they dont have their fair share of shithead cops. Im looking at you Mr. I Want To Search Your Car because you had a DIM tail-light. Joke was on him when I called his bluff that I'd have to wait 60 mins for a K9 unit to show up unless I let him.

>>33623394
thats an MP5 retard

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>>33623394
looks like an HK33

>>33622015

Anarcho-communists are literally a fucking joke. Socialism only succeeds with the power of the state to subjugate people.

All leftists are authoritarian.

>>33623409

The front one is a HK33 and the rear one is a MP5.

Looks like both of you are retarded

I still want a G3 though, literally only because of Call of Duty 10 years ago and I am in no way ashamed of that

>>33623399
Technically they don't.

The Second Amendment only refers to people.

>>33622906
Fun fact: among first orders of communists in Russia was order of the weapons confiscation.

>>33623382
Yes I've read the article
Her husband was illegal alien and the Washington posts calls him a law abiding citizen

>TL;dr
>I voted trump to deport illegal aliens!
>what my husband's illegal alien
>wtf I h8 trump nao

Comment section was cancerous
Leftists would get on their moral high horse and respond to anyone who saw nothing wrong with it

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>>33623413
>ywn be 90's swat

>>33623420

I mean, it COULD work when you're talking about things on the scale of a very small town where its actually possible to have a homogenous enough group that would willingly cooperate. Other than that yeah, its full retard. At least AnCaps (as retarded as they are) still realize that people can and will dick over other groups the moment they get the chance, but attempt to let "the free market" handle it instead of a non-existent state.

>>33620868
>in city fucking streets
Answered your own inquiry. Cops are dealing with lib riot monkies. I'd rather have them protect themselves than take a bottle to the head at a "safe space" campus riot.

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>>33621191
Well, as long as you don't vote for gun grabbing democrats, I think you're cool senpai.

>>33623475
>majority of SWAT deployments are for search warrants against people with no prior record

try harder, cops harder ever deal with dangerous situations.

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>>33620175
It's horseshit, specialized LEO back in the 90s were wearing the same flight suits and bump helmets as SEALs. They're just buying whatever hot shit on the market. What do people expect SWAT guys to show up in? Revolvers and shotguns? Not to mention its generally a sub - 20 man team if we're talking local SWAT.
MRAPs are excessive and honestly even the argument against them is pointless since they'll only deployed during riots or something important. Not to mention the military is trying to get rid of them for cheap.
If you want militarized cops look at the French National Gendarmerie or Russian OMON. An actual militarized police force does tours in areas of conflict, and last time I checked US local police forces don't rotate guys out to the Middle East.
The point is just because they "look" like a military doesn't make them a military.
>pic related French National Gendarmerie

>>33622421
>implying a large portion of cops aren't veterans

>>33620175
The problem with this isn't the equipment.

It's the attitude.

Yes, it's great, maybe even necessary, that the Police is going with the times, but we can't have Police officers in suburban neighbourhoods thinking they're tacticool Special Ops killing IS fighters.

>>33620800
>>33620855
>>33620857
>>33620897
>>33621806
>>33620821
Faggots.

>>33620857
>>33620878
Truth

Culture is the true matter of contention here, but only fools refuse to believe that your race and in turn ethnicity doesn't influence your culture. There's a reason we have both black people and niggers in this country. An ethnicity will for the most part share a race and cultural heritage. Being accepting and bringing in ethnicities with different cultural and moral values in large numbers will ultimately corrupt the host nation and pervert its own values. Racism is a defense against this. There is also a genetic component as well, where you are in direct competition against those with different genes than your own. Racism is a natural defense against this as well.

All that being said, just try living around a large group of black people and try to remain unprejudiced, niggers

>>33620868
>I'm retired Army
Thank you for your service.

>>33623511
This is also true. SWAT teams and specialized units like the HRT should be as close to soldiers as possible, but it's not only those units wearing military gear nowadays.
John Oliver(inb4 lib cuck) has a pretty good piece on Police Militarization.

>>33623589
>Racism is a defense against this. There is also a genetic component as well, where you are in direct competition against those with different genes than your own. Racism is a natural defense against this as well.

Cite some sources bud

>>33623475
>Cops are dealing with lib riot monkies
because right wing extremists aren't much more common and more dangerous, amiright?

>>33623640
Cite a source saying that citations prove anything. Go ahead I'm waiting

>>33620175
I don't have a problem with cops having all the equipment they want. I wouldn't give a shit if they were outfitted just like our infantry on the front lines.

However, I don't like paying for it. In many instances, police are getting gear they don't need, bought with taxpayer dollars. If they really need it to do their jobs, great, but every rural department doesn't need armored vehicles. It's a waste of tax money.

I also think there's a problem with police brutality and escalation of force in some areas, but that has nothing to do with their gear. You can be a decent, fair officer while dressed up like you're in special forces, and you can be an unjust asshole when you're not even armed.

>>33623653
Eh, they are often getting out of service gear that the military doesn't use anymore.

Also, there's better budgets to cut than that of Police Departments.

>>33623589
>confusing informed judgement with prejudice

>>33623668
>(((informed)))

>>33623638
>military gear
It's not like the guy pulling you over is wearing full set of cryes, plate carrier, and a comtac headset.
At most it's a plate plate carrier, which only helps in his survivability if something were to happen.

>>33623747
Sure, that's true. But it does happen in unwarranted circumstances.

>>33622632
It's not greed. No PD is spending half its budget on new toys, they're spending it on paying their LEOs and keeping existing equipment in working order. Those Crown Vics have hundreds of thousands of miles on them and cost a ton to repair every year. The problem is that their budget is allotted based not on what they spend, but on how much of their allotted budget they spend.

>>33623714

that is just silly

the real parentheses belongs around (((identity politics))) which is the foundation of many strains of faggotry today, including stormfaggotry.

>>33623782
>monkeyfaced nigger detected

>>33623763

No, it is greed. It's hardly the peoples' fault that their bloated pensions have sucked up half the budget.

They can spend within their means like the rest of us. Dispensing unjustified violence to secure funding makes them no different to bank robbers.

>>33622668
As a MAsshole myself, I can sadly say no, they aren't. The only veterans who are cops/SWAT in MA are cops who transffered to MA from another state. Very little MA born & raised police are veterans.

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>>33623760
>But it does happen in unwarranted circumstances.
Like what? What do you mean?
Even if the guy pulling you over is wearing all that gear, he's still not a soldier. He doesn't adhere to military command or partake in doorkicking.
>pic related, Chinese PAP, actual soldiers doing police duties

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>>33623399

>>33623792

observe the dialectical prowess of the stormfag

>>33623820
Who on earth moves to Mass just to be a police officer? Or are we talking like federal alphabet agencies?

>>33623836
>verbose monkeyfaced nigger detected

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>>33623511
>The point is just because they "look" like a military doesn't make them a military.
Ya... About that.

>>33623860
>a nigger is smarter than you

shieeeet

>>33623666
If there are better budgets to cut, I'd like to cut them too. We're twenty trillion goddamn dollars in debt, we shouldn't be giving the East Bumfuck Police Department armored vehicles.

If we have out of service gear, it should be auctioned, and the proceeds used to help balance our budget.

Satan trips can sometimes be wrong

>>33623648
When was the last time a bunch of fudds went on a citywide rampage?

>>33623874
>using more words than are necessary to make yourself appear smart on what is known as the anus of the internet actually makes you smart

Oh Jamal you really crack me up. Don't forget to whip out your thesaurus for your next post! Maybe take it easy on the self deprecating racism though, shit's not cool nigger. Don't degrade your race like that.

>>33623863
And do tell how any of that make them soldiers?
If your mailman looked like that and drove a humvee, is he a soldier?

>>33620559
You can't pull the "appeal to authority" fallacy when you haven't even graduated yet dude.

>>33623029
sauce?

>>33623923

i posted less than you though: >>33623589

maybe you should not rant for so long when it takes a single sentence to debunk everything you said

>>33623946
>debunk

ctfu

>>33620855
>that tumblr file name
Hey tumblr! Take your faggotry somewhere else.

>>33621544
Your report doesn't contradict anything I said. Even when controlling for poverty and education, niggers commit crime at exponentially higher rates.

>>33623935
So what's the difference between all of the classes they take to be qualified to use that equipment and the training a retarded marine/army grunt gets other than someone telling in your ear in the process?

>>33623955

yes, debunked. there is a difference between informed decisions and prejudice.

if you are so mentally feeble as to be able to get informed and tell truth from falsehood, and be able to defend said information from from critique, that is your own failing and not anyone else's.