Why do Anons rush off and buy a gun before consulting /k

Because if they ask /k/ they end up with shitty guns.

>buy Mosin and Makarov /k/omrade!

>>33619684
Fpbp

>>33619667
>Why do Anons rush off and buy a gun before consulting /k
Because I know what I want? and don't need /k/'s opinions?

>>33619702
There are plenty of new queers that have no idea what they want.

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Ok, I'll consult /k/
I'm thinking of getting a berretta bobcat in 22lr for plinking. Talk me out if it

>>33619667
Because /k/ is full of slavaboo poorfags or retards who spout "BUY AN AR-15" for every question.

Because sometimes you know you want a Dersert Eagle when you see it.

>>33619745
I had one for a little while. They have a super heavy recoil spring which is why the barrel flips up. The springs wear out relatively quickly for a .22lr too. I sold my .22lr and bought a .22short. It's much better and infinitely quieter with a can.

Without a can they're both kinda pointless, considering the alternatives.

>>33619745
Eh, actually I'm not gonna. While I won't advocate it for self defense it's a fun little gun, more muzzle flash than you'd expect tho. Feels great in the hand, pretty accurate, neat "tip up" barrel" feature and one of the few guns that can ACTUALLY be carried in a pocket without it being painfully obvious to all that you're armed. I think the extraction is a little weak though, needs hotter ammo to be reliable.

If you want to carry one for self defense, get the .22lr version for cheap practice and buy the .32 ACP version for actual EDC.

>>33619667
Because /k/ gives extremely uneven advice.

Because /k/ would try to convince them not to buy a Glock, which is reason enough to ignore them.

>>33619955
Glocks are fine I prefer Sig.

>>33619667
Have you ever been here? There's like 20 guys who own guns and have knowledge. And then 1980 17 year olds.

>>33619667

Half of /k/ has awful advice the other half has okay to good advice on picks but someone who doesn't know much about the hobby can't tell the difference.

>>33620236
I guess you're right.

>>33619712
And those threads are heavily discouraged and trolled. For every 10 suggestions expect 1 good one from someone that owns firearms, the rest are from cod glockfags and the board vets are too sick of the shit to look at the op.

>>33619667
>I'm about to drop a few hundred dollars so I'll ask the opinions of strangers who will repeat some opinions they heard strangers repeat from strangers repeating the opinions of a stranger who was probably making things up so people would notice him

Nah I'm good pham

I don't know, I think it's entertaining when someone comes to ask /k/ if they did good with their 600 dollar tapco'd SKS purchase.

Really though, even if you don't want people's opinion on model and shit, at least ask for price check or do one yourself if you don't know shit about pricing.

>>33620410
Thats EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Saw one already today.

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Because it's more fun to do research on your own, and find something that suits your individual tastes and needs, that k hates, and then post it constantly.

>>33619955
You could buy a glock, they're all around decent guns. You could also buy almost any other 9mm that isn't a piece of shit and save $400.

Because /k/ is filled with nogunz that think they know everything about firearms because they've read a few disparging comments about *insert gun there* and 25+ year-old information about guns and ballistics.

>>33619667
Because I have a few friends who have guns, and let me finger fucksome of their pieces

>>33619667
I wouldn't ask you retards for the time of day let alone what gun to buy.

>>33623175
>that plastic mold mark on the trigger
lel

>>33619667
/k/ is an echo chamber. It's tough to find new and reliable information on here.

Various sects of factionalized arrogant retards will loudly proclaim their conflicting talking points with very little in the way of experience or data.

Granted I've been here way too long, but lurk long enough and it all starts to sounds the same.

>>33620386
This.

Fine. Recommend me a good first pistol for 400 or less.

>>33624065
Any police trade in. If it's Leo proof, it's idiot proof. And it's probably hardly been fired, cleaned regularly with only holster wear

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>>33619667
Gonna buy this come May.
Whatcha say, /k/?

>>33619745
3032 is better. I had one, and I loved it. I regret selling it.

Since this thread is around,
Thoughts on steel frame EAA Witnesses?

I'm a big fan of CZs, and with the steel Witnesses going for 350-ish, they seem too good to be true. Are they machined well? Quality built? I know EAA customer service can be iffy, but how are the guns themselves?

>>33624161
meh. It looks ok I guess? I don't see why it would be worse than your standard vanilla glock unless Ruger REALLY fucked up on their design

>>33624854
my good man Hickok45 said it shoots good and is slightly heavier than a glock.

That's good enough for me.

Being a compact that has 17+1 and takes non-compact mags (like a glock) is very attractive to me.

Also it's 390 USD at my LGS

>>33624161
/k/ seems to have a hateboner for them but I've held one and fingerfucked it at a store and it seems like a nice gun.

>>33624161
just SR9, dude

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>>33619667
>before consulting /k

Are you assuming /k/ knows shit about guns? This is a place where you will get told to buy whatever feels good in your hand and telling someone they made a poor decision buying an XD, Taurus or SCCY is frowned upon because it hurt their fee fees.

>>33619667
>Why do Anons rush off and buy a gun before consulting /k
Because I don't need the love and support of a bunch of neck beards to feel good about myself or my purchases.

>>33619684
>Makarov
>implying it's not at decent at worst
B8/10

>>33626427
>taurus
>good
lel

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>>33619667
>consulting /k/ about buying a gun
that is the worst idea ever

>>33619667
but /k/ hates everything

>>33626466
How good or bad a Mak is is entirely dependent on the size of your hands.

As someone who wears XL gloves I hate shooting the damn things

>>33626530
>your reading comprehension
>good

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rrrrrriiiiiiiigggggghhhhhhhhhhttttttttttttt ?????

I researched for some time before buying my first gun.

>>33624825
I have an Elite Match (nicer trigger, better build quality, SAO) in 10mm and it's pretty fucking nice.

>>33626285
But SR9 is loaded when up

In /k/'s defense, the poorfag gun buying guide was actually pretty good for its time. It's a few years out of date now, but with some revising could be a really good guide to gun ownership on a budget.

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>>33619667
>Why do Anons rush off and buy a gun before consulting /k

cuz i don't like getting mobbed by glock fanbois that have only bought glock brand glocks

im buying pic related just cuz it isn't a glock. That's pretty much it.

glock fan bois try me

>>33628773
>i bought something to defend my home, my house, my family and my possession purely on the criteria its not a glock

isnt like...it fires, a criteria a little more important then that? glocks look awful and i dont want one, but, shit, im pretty sure, shitty glock over block of wood isnt that hard of a decision

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>>33619745
That's one ugly ass gun. Get this if you want to own a plinker. It's under $400

>>33630273
>thinks the bobcat is ugly
>posts a truly ugly gun

It's almost like opinions are a thing.

>>33619757
This.

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>>33629652
Nope when is a 2x4 going to explode in your hand

Wooden board confirmed to be more reliable than shitty glock brand glocks

Glock fanbois on suicide watch

>>33619802
Or 2 for that matter. Impulse buys are a pain in the ass

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>>33619667
Alright I'll bite. I'm about to buy pic related.

I really hate /k/ I haven't been coming as much as I used to. But I can't seem to give it up completely

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>>33631515
I wish. Easily the best bullpup out there.

>>33631596
Payment plans man

>>33631702
Buying something you can't afford right then.... wew lad.

>>33631596
Im waiting to see what the MDR has in store. Can't decide if i want it in 5.56 for home defense or 308 for shits and giggles.

>>33619955
I actually tried a glock for the first time on saturday and i was really impressed. I didnt expect it to be as polished as it was. Idky i expected it to feel like the pistol version of an ak.

>>33619667
>/k/
>Giving good advice
You're either new or have way too high an opinion about us.

>>33619667
Because as shocking as it may seem some people don't rely on other people to make decisions for them

>>33619684
Those are actually fine guns. Can't go wrong with slavshit, as long as you don't buy overpriced slavshit. It's always well built for its price

>>33636344
>$300 Makarov
>$260 91/30 Mosins

They were, but as of now, they're kinda not. Why buy old Makarov when you can get a pleathora of choices in .380/9x19mm that you can get ammo for easier for the same cost or less?

Why buy Mosin when you can get a Savage Axis in an easier to find caliber for like $25 more.

I missed the Slavshit boat... when I was in High School, I shoulda bought that $65 Mosin at the Fun show.

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>>33619667
Because if this is still in the store next Monday it's coming home with me.

>>33619667
"A fool and his money are easily parted"

>>33619667
Some people don't want WASRs, K31s, and Beretta 92S'

>>33636459
>spiderman grips
Cancer

>>33631702
And people wonder how they stay poor...

>>33631702
>payment plan on a $2000 gun
How poor are you?

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>>33628773
>im buying pic related just cuz it isn't a glock. That's pretty much it.
>later then cries about lack of aftermarket, sight options and holster options

Fitting, a gun made by a butthurt former Glock employee makes guns for people that are butthurt about Glock for no real reason and want to be speshul snowflakes.

>>33636788
?
What pistol would you recommend then?

Because I have been reading this board for about a month now, and have come to realize that it is filled with non shooters and wannabe's. most in here read the armchair commando manuals and think their opinions actually have merit. The few on here that try to educate are ridiculed and called names. Ive been shooting for 40 years, Distinguished pistol and rifle, Navy shooting team and journeyman armorer. This board is pathetic.

>>33637242
>navy
Dropped.

>>33631702
I have a personal loan I'd like to sell this anon right here. NO CREDIT REQUIRED apply today for the low low low rate of 26% apr

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>>33636906
>hurr durr muh aftermarket

Yeah, you're going to need it for those shitty plastic sights and that subpar trigger

Have fun with your riced out glock that you had to drop an extra couple hundred on, faggot

>buh buh buh muh perfection

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>>33619667
Did I fuck up went out and bought this for home defense and it's my first handgun

>>33630273
I bought one of these this week in the Kryptek camo pattern because fuck it, I liked the way it looked. Also, it's the first gun I've ever bought. Everything about it is easy mode. Easy to sight, easy to shoot, easy to clean, and it comes with an easy to install rail if you want to do silly shit to it.

>>33640065
No, you did a decent job, actually. The Walther PP/K platform is tried and true, and Bersa is a lot better than Taurus when it comes to making repro/X-gun-styled firearms.

Congrats on the new gun, now get some extra mags and buy some good defense ammo and a few boxes of range ammo.

>>33640065
>>33640128
To add to what he said, always try shooting a box or two of the defense ammo you decide on just in case it doesn't work out. You never know when a particular type of hollow point might just not work in a particular gun.

>>33619667
>>33619684
This
Also,
>Ask for pistol recommendations
>First post is Glock 19, all other posts are THIS

>>33640581
>hey guys what's a good hammer fired pistol?

>that's stupid buy a glock
every time.

>>33619667
What is that

>>33640581
Because the Glock 19 is the best first pistol, deal with it nerd.

this is coming from someone who religiously shoots and carries DA/SA.

>>33638368
I really can't take someone seriously if they think stock sights regardless of gun is fine.

Go back to /pol/ you fucking transplant.

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>>33642538
>muh gun is subpar out of the box
>BUH BUH BUH LET ME SPEND EXTRA MONEY ON MUH AFTERMARKET
>DERP DON'T POINT THIS OUT GO BACK TO POL

HURR DURR MUH PERFECTION

Glock retards fall for bait so easily

>I really can't take someone seriously if they think stock sights regardless of gun is fine.

Why is it so obvious that you've never owned any different brand of pistol? Go kill yourself, retard. Keep on shilling for that riced out gun of yours.

>>33637242

Fake story but has a large grain of truth in it.

/k/ gives garbage advice

>>33619667
Because /k/ can give both excellent and horrible advice in the same thread, but nothing in between

Because some people don't want to deal with a bunch of autistic screeching and stale, tired memes and just want straight information.

>>33624161
>what if we made glock
>and then add dozen of pointless angles

>>33619684
Comparing Slavic gold with capitalist nigger guns.

>>33619667
Because a huge part of /k/ has shit taste in guns

See the whole milsurp/nugget crowd and the GET AN AR GET AN AR homosexuals.

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>>33644614
It breaks up its radar signature.

should I buy a kimber micro 9?

>>33619667
Because internet advice cannot compare to real life experience.

>>33619667
Because half of the "knowledge" on /k/ is from underaged posters regurgitating misinformation.
To trust info from anybody not basically posting OC proving they own it is risky as hell here.

>>33619667
Because you can go anywhere and get the same, if not better abuse from people who probably know less that you (can learn in a days search through Google) but have mastered the art of cut and paste.

>>33619667
Because /k/ is the only good internet gun forum/board on the internet.

>>33644688
Audibly kekked

>>33644772
Kimber has a reputation for bad qc

>>33637057
I saw someone in another thread got MAC 1935 as a carry piece.

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>>33647109
So mac 1935 confirmed for better carry gun than LEM p30?

>>33647192
It was an obvious troll thread, but still probably yes.

>>33627724
kek

All right poorfags. Here's your guide

Smith & Wesson is running a $75 rebate on their pistols right now so you can get, depending on your state, a M&P Sheild for well under $300 with a little bit of shopping on slickguns or wikiweapons.Springfield also regularly runs specials for accessory bundles as well.

Second J&G had a sale running on S&W .38 SPC police trade ins most of which had never been fired. So check out slickguns.com

As far as an entry level hammer fired 9mm - that's easy. CZ75 variant with the decocker. If you can afford it get the Omega trigger and it's still cheaper than a Sig by a few hundred, usually cheaper than a Glock and outshoots both. Fucking love CZ's. Match target accurate, reliable as all hell, soft shooting. Only downside is expensive mags.

Ruger 85's are dirt cheap, caveman reliable, ugly as sin and you can get them all day long under 300.

Nothing wrong with glocks, reliable. just have shitty sights. I'd take the Smith over the Glock especially because the ergo's are way better. My hands are all fucked up and I'm getting old so soft shooters are nice. My EDC is a Smith M&P9c and I'm buying the Ruger LCR in 357 in 2 weeks. Carried the glock 17 & 19 for years. Nothing wrong with them, just prefer the Smith M&P to just about everything.

Here's your spending guide
200-250 Makarov is the only game in town
250-300 Ruger or Smith Shield on sale or used
300-400 Shield or M&P compact, used smith 38's & ruger LCR's on sale or used
400-500 the XD essentials can be bought special, can get them under 400 sometimes
500-600 glocks, CZ's, CZ's can be hand in the low 400's though if found used
If you can afford more than that you're not a poorfag

Best advice is stay away from the more novelty guns and calibers. A lot of people are clearencing out their 40s because law enforcement is abandoning them so ammunition will rise over the next several years. Stay away from phillipino 45s .

Bersa's are cheap, relatively reliable. 380 sucks balls. Buy a Smith Shield while they're on sale with the rebate

The Tavor is much more compact, reliable and ergonomic. If you want the Aug because it's cool, fine, whatever gets you off. If you want it for self-defense, prepping etc, get the tavor or an AR.

hk vp9 tac ftw :) any opinions from ya'll on that?

>>33648246
Just got done doing the same thing on another forum, see MAC's review / torture test of the VP9. Then go get something better and better priced.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOu5ZGfgtVk

>>33648246
Hammer>striker. Get a p30.

Yeah, great gun, retarded expensive mags and you can get better concealed carry for less. The question is why do you want it?

It's the same size as a G17, but more expensive, w/ more expensive mags and holds 2 less rounds.
Why not get a G19, have a more concealable option for less money?

If you want a range gun or go-to-war gun, great, but lets say it's SHTF, where are you going to find parts for an H&K?

It's all about the purpose, the gun is largely irrelevant.

>>33648435
>go to war gun
Vp9 is and was always intended as a carry gun. Why do you think it's named volkspistol? It's also slimmer than a glock and feels infinitely better in the hand. The two rounds or whatever won't make a difference in a defensive shooting. Also, if I had a "go to war gun" that was a pistol it would be a USP or Mark 23.

Owned a Raven P-25 and I loved it. fun little banger, Would I trust my life to it? Its better than a rock!

>>33648501
If by calling it the volkspistole they want to compare it to the volkswagon, they could do better by making it a better gun that's a lot cheaper and not a mid-tier Glock clone that doesn't last long and is at a high-tier pistol price. As it is, Glock, CZ, or Steyr make the actual volkspistolen out there.