post prototype and experimental aircraft

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>>33617464

>>33617615

Where's the overheating cowl?

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>>33617623

they switched it out pretty quickly

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>>33617615
>>33617636
>that canopy
muh dikk

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>>33617807
Why did semi recessed missiles never take off?

What kind of job do you have to be to know about flying black triangles and similar aircraft?

>>33617822
Eurofighter has them

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>>33617782

its nice

>>33617822
But they did. AIM-7 on F-15, Skyflash on Tornado, Eurofighter, russian nuclear cruise missiles...

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I TRIED SO HARD

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>>33617871
AND GOT SO FAR

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>>33617464

I cri every tiem

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I always think forward swept aircraft are flying towards something they want to hug.

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>>33617615
>>33617636
>that canopy

>>33618234
And now I'll never see anything else.
Damnit, I love the forward swept aesthetic too.

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this is like something a kid designed

IT WILL BE FAST BUT THE WINGS CAN FOLD OUT SO IT CAN FLY SLOW AND THE TIRES WILL POP OUT OF THE WING WHEN IT FOLDS BUT IT CAN FLOAT TOO SO IT CAN LAND IN WATER

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>>33617890

>>33618234
The X-29 is the fucking best

>Small
>extremely manoeuvrable
>FAST
>great aerodynamics

They should bring it back to life, at least just for the airshows

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*disintegrates in flight*

>>33617807
It's time to scramble, Mr. Plane.

>FUGG :DD

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>>33618327

tank liked it

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>>33618939
One of my professors worked on the X-29, and from what he's saying, it definitely has its flaws.
>Poor area ruling
>Poor stealth
>Lingering structural issues even with fancy composites

Here's a write up he did about it if you're interested.
http://www.dept.aoe.vt.edu/~mason/Mason_f/AnX-29StoryV3.pdf

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THICC

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>just let me bail o....dead

>>33619694
lifting body or just epic death?

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>>33619704
Oblique wing taken to the extreme. You really don't need all that much wing area when you're going supersonic, and that body is flat enough to provide it.

>>33619737
pretty cool

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>>33619747
Oblique wings are fucking magic.

>>33619756
what exactly is a oblique wing?

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>>33617894

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>>33619767
Pic related. One wingtip is forward of the other. Pretty much a swept wing, only instead of it being symmetrical, you carry the same sweep across the entire wing.

>>33619795
would that unbalence it, due to diffrences in lift?

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Benson X-25
>ejection seats and parachutes are so mainstream

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>>33619804
Surprisingly no. The center of lift doesn't really change, even in a variable-sweep oblique wing. The AD-1 (in that post you quoted) had very basic wire controls, and yet the only issue they found was that there was pitch/roll coupling when the wing was rotated because no alternative roll control was provided once the wing was swept.

It's actually better balanced than a traditional swing-wing design - those shift the center of pressure aft when you rotate the wings, but in an oblique wing, the center of pressure stays in the same place.

>>33619846
you are right. that shit is fucking magic.
whats its stall like?

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>>33619860
I'm not actually sure, though this paper seems to discuss it in some detail.
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a471422.pdf

However, I've yet to see an oblique wing concept that doesn't involve rotation of some kind, so ideally you wouldn't be anywhere near stall unless the wing was completely unswept.

As for the oblique flying wing concept, I can only assume it'd be some kind of horrific tumbling that would make even conventional flying wings look tame in comparison.

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>>33619942

tips stall on one side

issues with center of pressure shift when it swings

>>33619846
>>33619942

time to check that shit on KSP

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Pulqui I (red, background) and Pulqui II (white, front)

>>33620089
would it work on KSP?

>>33620089
I somehow doubt KSP can handle oblique wings properly.

>>33620107
Pulqui II is so aesthetic, it's a shame it was never adopted

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>>33619961
>tips stall on one side
Good point, it'd be interesting to see how that happens. Normally you'd optimize the twist in such a way that you wouldn't have the tip stall issues, but optimizing twists for a changing sweep and asymmetric wing would be tricky.

As far as center of pressure shift, it really isn't much of an issue. Unlike conventional swing-wings, where the average wing area shifts aft, oblique wings keep the average wing area static.

>>33620089
Probably wouldn't work in KSP. KSP models aerodynamics as point loads and doesn't properly take into account things like span loading, vortex lift, or spanwise flow.

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>muh tip stalls

>>33620014
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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And they said it never flew...

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>>33620798

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>>33620806

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>>33620798
>>33620806
>>33620813

its an RCS model

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>tfw rivet has never been tried

JUST FUCKING DO IT

>>33620903
>Implying it wasn't flown at Groom as a contractor-owned testbed a la Bird of Prey and is now nothing more than slag at the bottom of another burn pit.

>>33620894
Then why did the CIA retire the A-12 in 1968, over a decade before the KH-11 came online?

And saying "the blackbird replaced it" I'd like saying the Global Hawk replaced the U-2.

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I don't know anything about the X-47B other than that it's fuckin cool.

>>33619813
THICC

Also why is the nose gear so low to the ground?

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>>33618024

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>>33620999
Kneeling gear to allow them to park the planes with the nose under the next plane's tail

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Weiss-Manfred WM-23. Hungary, 1941. Development was too slow and the prototype crashed. The brass decided that fuck it, let's just license-build Italian Reggiane Falco's instead, because we need a decent fighter for yesterday rather than one year from now.

In a hindsight, this was a bad idea. The WM-23 had a lot of potential and could have been something glorious.

>>33621492
Max qt

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More Hungary. AVIS-III, early 1930's. Note the racing stripe.

>It's a civilian racing plane. Honestly. Look at the racing stripe, it proves it. It's an aerobatics and racing plane. It is absolutely not a military project. It is not a part of any secret military buildup, there is no secret military buildup, we Hungarians are a peaceful people and we abhor even the thought of war, especially against our beloved neighbours and we adhere to the terms of the peace treaty 110 percent. It has a racing stripe on it. It is a civilian plane. I'm not lying. Have some more pálinka. Drink it. Drink all the fucking pálinka. Racing plane. Drink the pálinka and admire the beautiful plane. Looks nice and very civilian with the racing stripe, doesn't it? Drink.

>>33621094
ROWSDOWER

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RMI-08 X/V project, one of the many projects of the Repülőműszaki Intézet (Flight Technology Institute). Hungary license built Me-109's and tech-heresy was inevitable.

Never flew. Was too glorious to be capable of existing in this shit world.

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RMI-1 X/H. Turboprop heavy fighter/light bomber project. Only flew with conventional piston engines.

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A shame really. We went for license-building Me-210's instead.

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>>33620942
>"the blackbird replaced it" I'd like saying the Global Hawk replaced the U-2

kingfish was a competitor of the a-12

it lost, largely due to RCS

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The engine intended for the RMI-1 is still around. Jendrassik Cs-1, aviation history's very first turboprop engine that worked (for the most part). Cs stood for Csónakmotor, meaning boat engine. It's a boat engine, Herr Hermann. Nothing interesting. Please move along, there is nothing to see here. Boat engines are not particularly fascinating.

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Cutest plane

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>prototype thread
>no B&V assymetrical fuckery yet
sad

>>33621930
1.they were used
2. for some fucking reason, they worked

>>33621862
I saw the real one at Oshkosh last year and its one of the tiniest fucking planes ive seen.

Also very VERY cute.

>>33621930
>>33621954

Murphy's sixth law of combat: if it is stupid, but it works, it is not stupid.

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BEST PLANE COMING THROUGH

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>>33622101
Ahem..

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>>33622116

pig disgusting wing guns

real qts mount them in the nose

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Anglo-Saxon imperialists BTFO.

>>33622101
>>33622116
>>33622134
they're both awesome, now kiss

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Prototype Su-17

>>33621820
>The kingfish lost to the A-12 because of RCS

LSWIDF GO HOME

>>33622146
HOW CAN AMERICANS EVEN COMPETE

"Yuu anguri, waito piggu?"

>>33619676
>just let me bail o....dead
you mean,
>*pulls ejection-seat lever*

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>>33617464

>>33617822
>slow kid's first time biking outside of the neighbourhood.webm

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>>33617464

>>33622146
I thought it had to actually exist to be experimental.

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>>33622134
>>33622116
>>33622101
Plebs please.

>>33620942
...so they could push the expense of running the program off on the USAF- that's why. And why did the USAF drop the SR-71? It cost too much to run for what it did.

>>33627253
It's painfully apparent to anyone who pays attention that the SR-71 was replaced in the early to mid 90s by something else.

My money is on a YF-23 derivative that didn't fly as fast but supercruised at Mach 1.5-2 while being essentially invisible to radar.

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>>33627571

what did hughes mean by this?

Stipa caproni and sea skimmer

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A CUTE