If CalExit happens, will you fight the separatists?

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>>33612385
>lazy failed farmers
Are these guys brain damaged? California farms would be nothing but bone dry dirt plots if we didn't steal water from the Colorado River.

And why would the US military allow the ports to remain open if the state secedes? This guy is seriously fucking stupid.

>>33612385
I'mma go over there and take that beautiful landscape the fuck over with my bitch.

>>33612385
Man FUCK urban Californians. I will happily sign on to defend /k/ommando land in the event of secession.

We should let them secede. See if Jefferson secedes from California.

>fight the separatists
>implying anyone advocating California secession would actually pick up a gun and fight for those ideas

I'd happily let them go their own ways. I would have more problems with fighting the socialist republic of cascadia. Not that i disagree with the movement, just the numales in Portland and Seattle that scream of plebbit.

I don't see why anyone on this board would oppose a succession. It will mean 40 million fewer commies voting for gun control and other garbage at the national level

>>33612385
I wouldn't feel bad about fighting on the side of the Union this time. However, to stop the problem happening all over again, we shouldn't allow Californians who stayed in the state over the course of the war to vote, nor allow them to raise families. Stop them spreading the idea that violent breakup of the country is somehow noble or justifiable.

>>33612568
I could see them trying to sign some sort of petition to join mexico. I feel like that'd be the easiest, laziest way of accomplishing what they want.

>>33612604
>violent breakup of the country
If any state succession becomes violent, it will almost certainly be the fault of the feds who can't stand losing any power

Lol California gets very red once you get out of the cities, Jefferson state and most of the valley would die before they took orders from SF.

Don't forget the substantial numbers of non-farming Californians who are against secession. (Myself included)

Between the huge military and national guard presences already here, the ability to control the state's water supply by taking a few key rivers, and the general gunshyness of the malcontents, I give Calexit: a 1 out of 5.

>CA secedes
>"Haha, take that racist alt-right redneck pigs!"
>NorCal promptly secedes from SoCal, taking all its agriculture/food with it
>Silicon Valley breaks off too since there's more money to be made in the Union
>SoCal is left starving and in serious debt
>"F-Fucking rednecks!!"

Yeah I don't think it will take much for that particular revolution to go down in flames chief.

>>33612385
Why would we want them to stay? If they want to be hopelessly fucked, so be it. America is better off without Commiefornia.

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>succession
secession

>>33612598
It also means the 8th largest economy in the world would no longer be a part of the United States. Not to mention the largest and most diverse agriculture production in the country and most of the ports on the western seaboard.

The US would take a huge hit by losing California.

>>33612385
Califags please secede. You commie fags can have your own shitty country with socialized health care and gay marrige and no guns and america has a place that they can deport commie fags to.
win win

>>33612598
Secession is treason, and I don't want their big economy leaving the Union. Screw losing western ports, and allowing a new major and economic military power to coalesce on our border too. They'll turn to the Chinese for protection if we let them secede, and then we'll end up with PLA tank """peackeeping""" divisions on our border.

>>33612634
Normally I would agree with you, but I feel like that's not entirely true anymore. Remember these are the same people who believe that assaulting someone for their political association is "defending themselves". These are people who believe that rioting and looting a college campus because they didn't agree with a conservative speaker is somehow a victory for free speech. These are people who shut down one of Americas biggest cities and destroyed its poorest sections (with the mayors implicit approval) because of the death in custody of a known felon. This new breed of militant liberalism isn't like anything we've encountered in recent memory, and it's characterized less by shrewd manipulations and more by outright opposition and sporadic violence. At the rate we're going, they may very well decide that armed violence is simply pre-emptive self defense, and therefore, justified. So far, the biggest saving grace seems to be a lack of cohesion and organization of priorities, leading to a huge population of malcontents, all worried about different things and none being able to unify the group. This makes them easy to manipulate against one another, but once someone comes forward with a message that every snowflake can get behind, we may start to see a dangerous level of organization amongst a much more prone-to-violence group. I don't think I need to tell you why that's a problem.

>>33612696
An economy that relies of the rest of the US to function, fuck wit. Agriculture? The state steals almost it's entire aquifer from other states, so there goes the farms. Ports? You really think those ports will mean shit when it's no longer a US State? Shippers will begin shipping to Portland or Seattle, since CA won't be US land anymore.

Please, give us more reasons. I need a good laugh

A civil war pitting CA vs Fed would massively destabilize world markets, possibly to an unrecoverable level.

>>33612385
texas has a good chance of surviving as a nation in comparison to california.

as far as secession goes, it seems like the assumption is these former states would just be left alone to be come independent nations. if it ever got that far, i think the US would just invade and make them territories

>>33612791
This. All the benefits of having that economy at your control, without having to let them vote.

>>33612771

This. Macro 101. If shit ever got that far we would already be a point of no return. Global casualties would be the hundreds of millions.

>>33612696
>The US would take a huge hit by losing California
Only the federal government would. It doesn't hurt me, or almost anyone else not in government, while the lack of communist voters would be a huge benefit

>>33612756
>Secession is treason
All "treason" means is that the current power doesn't like it. Remember that this country was founded by treason

>>33612766
Weird how other nations can operate independently and still do business with the US. It's almost as if we're willing to trade goods and services from them in exchange for currency.

Gosh, could that be it?

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>>33612756
>Secession is treason
TRIGGERED
But in actuality, the South would help cleanse the left coast menace.

>>33612598
I agree with secession and state's rights to pursue it but I so badly want to see commies demolished

>>33612859
Why the fuck would the US trade with CA when we can do everything it currently does, without tarrifs, taxes, and dealing with thier bullshit? The agriculture is easily enough replaced by other states. Oregon and Washington get new influx of cash from assuming the role of shipping ports. The US gets premium bucks when CA begs to buy our electricity and water.

CA is not equipped to survive on its own. You can't pay for trade goods with IOUs

>>33612760
Baltimore is not important at all, not to take away from your point or anything, but it's a 2nd-3rd tier city.

>>33612756
>secession is treason
yes, that's the whole point of seceding.

I'm a rural Californian and I would definitely fight this shit if they tried it. I'm a dead-center moderate and not really a fan of Trump myself, but fuck radical leftists. My family came to America after fleeing an eastern European socialist shithole, and we're not going to have our new home ruined.

>>33612859
>>33612894
Federal forces will blockade the ports, close the passes, and bomb the aqueducts. Without water and lattes, most of you contrarian faggots will be dead within a month, the Spic gangs will get the rest. If you are still alive and you hadn't fled to Mexico yet, you'll be willing to suck the dick of every US soldier that crosses the Sierras just to be allowed to leave that hell.
Reap what you sow.

>>33612656
As a southern californian farmer you clearly don't understand that the only crop NorCal grows is lettuce and weed. It's called "the central valley." not the trinity alps. i swear you idiots don't know shit about this state.

>>33612385

If CalExit actually happens I'm going to pack up my shit and move to Texas, all the while enjoying a country that's that much redder with it gone.

>>33613102

A. Central CA is bone dry. The farms are dwindling to nothing. Most produce it used to make us now grown on Mexico

B. What little water central California DOES have, comes from norcal.

Wanna rethink that statement?

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>>33612385
>actual economy
>not 480,000,000,000 in debt
>muh 5th largest economy
lol ok
http://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/California-s-400-billion-debt-worries-analysts-6812264.php

>>33612568
These are redditors we're talking about here.

>>33612493
>California farms would be nothing but bone dry dirt plots if we didn't steal water from the Colorado River.

Colorado River water only goes to Imperial and San Diego Counties. It's also not stolen, California borders the Colorado River.

>>33612385
No, I won't help fight.

The US will be a better place with the Californians gone. They can take Oregon and Washington while they're at it.

The best case scenario IMO is that the Cascadia separatist movement succeeds, and California joins it. We get rid of California, Oregon, and Washington, and instantly lose a shitload of the dumbass urban liberals.

>>33613209
>Implying Arizona couldn't just damn up the river to say fuck you to the lefty cocksucks

>>33613209
California claimed an inordinate percentage of the river's volume for itself through jewery. It was also done during a particularly wet year, so they are guaranteed a theoretical amount of foot acres yearly, regardless of how much is actually available.
Risner's Cadillac Desert is a fascinating read.

>>33613139
The Central Valley gets most of its water from the Sierra Nevada, dipshit. It's also the most productive and valuable agricultural land in the world. The Central Valley's crops alone are worth more than all of Mexico's, combined.

so it turns out /k/ knows as much about california as soccer moms know about guns

>>33613248
>commiefornians should be allowed to keep all that land

It'd take years for their inclusivist community to agree acceptable designs for such things as money and postage stamps. They'll probably end up with something that's easily forged, because it's racist to prevent minorities expressing their creativity!

>>33612385
It's pointless to think this because it won't happen.

>>33613248
You dumb hick, without those "dumbass urban liberals," your shithole wouldn't even have paved roads.

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> Texans.
> Muh 2nd amendment. Don't thread on me motherfuckers. lmao.

> Are the first ones that want to succeed from the rest of the country.

>>33612385
Rural California would revolt against the coastline, starving them.

We might get the state of Jefferson out of it... that'd be neat.

>>33613370
>dumbass urban liberal on /k/
For what purpose?

I'm a northern Cali resident, don't mistake us for the yuppie Southern Californian hippies.
We're
Proud gun owners, we have enough to supply all of the state. So cal needs to exit and go to Mexico and be liberal faggots there

>>33613452
>To be able forcefully and threateningly to oppose this party, whose betrayal of the workers will begin with the very first hour of victory, the workers must be armed and organized. The whole proletariat must be armed at once with muskets, rifles, cannon and ammunition, and the revival of the old-style citizens’ militia, directed against the workers, must be opposed. Where the formation of this militia cannot be prevented, the workers must try to organize themselves independently as a proletarian guard, with elected leaders and with their own elected general staff; they must try to place themselves not under the orders of the state authority but of the revolutionary local councils set up by the workers. Where the workers are employed by the state, they must arm and organize themselves into special corps with elected leaders, or as a part of the proletarian guard. Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary. The destruction of the bourgeois democrats’ influence over the workers, and the enforcement of conditions which will compromise the rule of bourgeois democracy, which is for the moment inevitable, and make it as difficult as possible – these are the main points which the proletariat and therefore the League must keep in mind during and after the approaching uprising.
-Karl Marx

>>33612385
Armed secession is not going to happen. Either it will be peaceful, or it won't happen. Spoiler alert: it won't happen.

That said, I fully support calexit for numerous reasons, one of which is that it will set gun control back by 100 years.

In California it's literally north vs south... we sell most of our water to so cal since they don't have shit, went into a drought, fucked nor cals water supply, so cal
Is still gay and liberal, Oroville dam helped some but it's always been north vs south in California, south is shit.

>>33612760
Their only unifying message is, fuck white people, and we'll see how long that lasts. The last time the white libs tried that they ended up getting lynched at the end of the haitian revolution.

Without Straight White Male Leadership any revolution is bound to fail. And no sensible and strong white man will join a movement whose primary goal whether it be overt or hidden is to abolish whiteness. Abolish is just codeword for kill.

It would be hilarious as rural California revolts against the secessionists and blockades major cities, starving them into submission and plunging them into chaos as minorities revolt and start burning the place down.

>>33613370
>implying country folks don't like dirt roads...
You don't really have a clue, do you?

>>33613507
Can't wait until, in this fantasy where you secede because of muh feelings, the dam-busters hit the dams up north. The wall of water coming down the rivers by the time it reaches the south will be biblical.
t. Rudolf the Red

>>33612493
I'd also like to see Californian agricultural competitiveness if they paid their produce pickers minimum wage.

>>33613307
Really fuck wit? So that's why, while the rest of CA is out of a drought, the central part of the state is still? That's also why the entire stretch of the i5 corridor, which was once farm, is now dust bowl delapidated farms? Such right crops, that Fresno, Stockton, and most of the rest of central CA has the highest unemployment rate and some of the highest crime rates in the state?

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I moved out of california but I'd go back to fight separatists. would be interesting to help seize areas outside LA and to watch the liberals starve or try to escape as they get cut down by unionists.

>>33613578
I drove through it a week ago. There are signs up saying "congress created dustbowl" sitting in green ass fields overflowing with wild vegetation.

>>33612634
It'll go the same as it did last time, the US will not give up her military bases, and the separatists will attack the bases because they don't have the patience to let diplomacy happen.

>>33613607
Yeah, but these bases are fuck huge and won't be surrendering. The counterattacks will be devestating

>>33613634
Exactly.

>>33613600
Wait a few months for summer to hit

>>33613560
Good fuck the south Cali fags, hippies, yuppies and druggies,up north and even central (mixed with some piece of shits) are all pro gun and most of us hate the south, we gave them a ton upon tons of water and we got shit, the govt got money, residents didn't get jack. Once the 2019 gun laws pass I'm out, fuck commiefornia, I loved living here since birth but I can't deal with any type of wait time on ammo.. give me a break

>>33612385
>will you fight the separatists?

Fuck no.

All of them can take a hike at this point. I hate Cali.

>>33613578
>So that's why, while the rest of CA is out of a drought, the central part of the state is still?
Because the drought caused increased groundwater extraction, lowering the water table, causing wells to go dry. Some areas, that were reliant on groundwater alone, are still feeling the impact of the drought.

>That's also why the entire stretch of the i5 corridor, which was once farm, is now dust bowl delapidated farms?
Those farms were always marginal. That was some of the last land developed into farms, so they have the most junior water rights, and the region was overdeveloped for the water supply it has. When droughts come, those farms go out of business.

>Such right crops, that Fresno, Stockton, and most of the rest of central CA has the highest unemployment rate and some of the highest crime rates in the state?
Your argument is that since poor people exist, the farms cannot be productive? Are you mentally retarded, in addition to being ignorant?

>>33612983
Californian from shit lib SF and there would be a pile of stupid ass liberals laying dead at the bottom of my street

>>33613386
>thread
>succeed
lmao this thread fails, subtle bait

>>33612696
>8th largest economy in the world.
>secession happens; California proceeds to levy higher taxes of businesses because California.
>Businesses leave California to go back to the USA for lower taxes.

I'm a native Californian and I love this place, but I almost want a calexit attempt to happen just to see the biggest banhammer federal bitchslap of all time to come down on Newsom and the rest of his deluded ilk.

>>33613710
Fellow SF resident. Owning a gun in this city makes me feel like I have a superpower or something.

>>33613763
>secession happens; California proceeds to levy higher taxes of businesses because California.

Since Californians send more money to the Feds than they get back, taxes could be lowered and services remain the same, or taxes remain the same and services increased.

>>33612385
>Let Kommiefornia fail,
>Start Conservative Insurgency,
>Kill Commies
>?????
>Profit.

>>33612696
>implying that Jefferson state, made to replace California in the union, would not immediately become a massive hub for the west coast trading in the event California actually gets away with something like this

>>33613826
>implying wishful thinking can create a port

>>33613857
>infrastructure development does not exist

>>33613806
I would be willing to bet they'd increase taxes to make up for the dearth in education funding from prop 13. Without the federal loaning structure California's expansive system of higher education would face a lot of problems.

>>33613806
>Since Californians send more money to the Feds than they get back,

Because of the ports and farms. Which are now pretty much useless as in a secession scenario they no longer serve as a point of entry to the other 47 contiguous states (in the case of the ports) or export the large majority of the goods to market (on the case of the farms).

The funny thing about the whole "california gives more than they take" thing is that this is only true due to two factors that are overwhelmingly worked by christian conservatives. the very same people that the establishment and masses of the state loathe.

A starbucks barista with a sociology degree and sleeve tattoos stumbles across a statistic about revenue generation and California and she genuinely thinks it's powered by people like her. It never crosses her mind that those icky gun toting rednecks could be the reason why she has roads to drive on.

>>33613870
The columns of tanks rolling down 10 West through the desert would present a more pressing issue, I'd imagine.

>California libs attempt secession, are immediately killed off by conservative Californians who own guns.
>California goes back to the US but more conservative.

>>33612385
jesus why are the left always the most radical and prone to immediate violence before rational thought and discourse?

>>33613910
Because to them feelings are more important than laws.

>b-b-but california is an agricultural powerhouse!!
>any county that grows anything is red

>2018
>alcoholic gun hating adulterer gets elected as governor
Is there any way this could be prevented?

As a Californian, the divide between conservative and progressives here in California isn't a South vs North thing. It's more of a western strip of CA, running from San Francisco to Los Angeles versus the rest of California thing.

I also support calexit, just so we can bring the hammer down on the urban degenerates in this state.

>>33612564
It will, and we'll be petitioning for admission to the Union. We're also going to need some military aid for our upcoming civil war with the Democratic Peoples Republic of California.

A little help here?

>>33613950

but they're just gonna ship food in from mexico bro game over

>>33614002
You guys would have to take steps to ensure this type of thing never happened again. You would have to draft a new state constitution.
You would be a different entity.
A...a
>New
>California
>Republic

>>33612568
The whole Calexit thing seems to be dying out. The libs found out they'd have to put their own money and effort into it. This kills the Calexit.

>>33613790
Love how true this is lol
>SFSU every dies fuck liberals
>West Portal all the Irish have guns
>Hunter's Point the niggers are gonna wipe each other out
>Pacifica is gonna be the right wing militia group of the bay area

>>33613890
>The funny thing about the whole "california gives more than they take" thing is that this is only true due to two factors that are overwhelmingly worked by christian conservatives.

The ports and farms are worked by lefties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Longshore_and_Warehouse_Union

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Farm_Workers

>>33614031
>Ship.
If you aren't growing your own food or living within horse drawn wagon range from where your food is grown, you're fucked. Those La Raza food convoys won't be bringing tomatoes to your gringo ass. The one's that survive the ambushes by conservative forces are going straight to the barrios first.

>>33614070
I didn't know labor unions owned the means of production. Huh, revolution achieved I guess, pack it up goys.

>>33613209
Coloradan here
STAY OUT OF OUR WATER

>>33612385
I'd gladly be shipped down to Las Vegas and watch over the dam to make sure no NCR tries to take it

>>33614115
>worked = owned

You're as eloquent as the President.

>>33613307
>it's also the most productive and valuable agricultural land in the world
uhhh....no. It's not even the most productive and valuable agricultural land in the US, that goes to the prairie states and their $90 billion a year grain industry that's exported to over 80 countries and is the sole reason Eastern Europe can afford to have livestock.

Acre for acre the states of IL, IA, MO, NE, and KS produce more produce by weight and value. The difference is most of it is either turned into ethanol or livestock feed instead of being eaten by humans.

And if you wish to count the illegal markets, Afghanistan is right up there with its poppy fields and Colombia is right up there with its cacao plantations, which is a trillion-dollar globe-spanning empire.

>>33612385
As a Californian I wish these fuckers would try it. I want to see what San Francisco looks like after a week of total blockade.

Better make those organic fair-trade kale shakes last, hippies.

>>33614158
What are scabs?

>>33614169
chocolate is illegal?

>>33613910
Here. Read this.

https://status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/

>>33614179
Something that hasn't existed in meaningful amounts since the mid-70's because it's no longer enough of a profit margin to risk getting their skulls caved in trying to sneak past the picket.

>>33612385
>USS Battleship Trump rolls into port
along with
>USS Battleship Pence
>40 destroyers
>20 submarines
Result:
>Cleanse tomb world

>>33614196
Colombia makes about 37x more money from the illegal export of cocaine than it does the legal export of refined cocoa, despite only about 1/5th of the cacao plantations being used to produce it and only about 1/100th of those producing it alone. So...kinda sorta I guess.

>>33612385
I think we should bomb the hell out of them but then let them ago after we destroyed all their infrastructure.

>>33612385
>redcaps

as a name for trump supporters.....I can live with that

>>33614200
Something that hasn't existed in meaningful amounts since the mid-70's because our industry evaporated.

>>33614249
>Article of clothing
>Color
Hmm, rings of Brownshirts.
No doubt intentional, but I like it.

>>33614169
>It's not even the most productive and valuable agricultural land in the US, that goes to the prairie states and their $90 billion a year grain industry
What a load of horseshit. Grain's grown in the Midwest because it's a lower value crop, suitable for lower value land. The fact that there's a whole lot of it doesn't change the value per unit.

>Acre for acre the states of IL, IA, MO, NE, and KS produce more produce by weight and value
Acre for acre, only if you're counting all the parts of California that aren't farmland.

>>33612675
this anime was meh, if you want a tall girl x short guy watch Witch Craft Works

>>33614169
>>33614216
You're confusing cocoa and coca, you incredible retard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theobroma_cacao
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca

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>>33614249
>>33614275
Nah. Deplorables is the name our enemies have given us. Deplorables will do.

>>33614346
Yeah, I was >>33614196 and I am so confused.

>>33614362
I figured it was just a typo at first, and ignored it, but then he doubled down on the retardation.

>>33614357
They are both pretty cool names. That patch is pretty gay, but the names are great because they are both designed to arouse derision and fear in the mouth-breathing public, something that is unthinkable for the pussies on the Left, but that the Alt- Right would not shy away from and would come to own.

This would be the starting bell for most of the more prosperous states to follow suit.

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>>33612385
I would love to communists.

Sadly, I have to work or my kids go hungry.

>>33613496
fag

>>33614395
Well at least he learned something today. (Cocoa=Cacao=Chocolate)=/=(Coca=Cocaine)

>>33613573
i love the mental gymnastics of democrats.

>we need those migrant workers to do the jobs americans won't for that pay
>we need to legalize them
>we need to raise minimum wages

they should just come out and say they are driving a demographic change for the purpose of importing voters for the democratic party.

>>33612385
I would love to see them survive without the water they get from other states.

>>33612791
>calexit happens
>manifest destiny activated
>steamroll DPRoC into the Pacific
>Sherman sheds a single tear in his grave
>california annexed as a territory
>deny statehood to California, sorry Jefferson
>admit some throwaway territory like Guam or Puerto Rico to the union so we don't have to remake the stars and stripes
>Feinstein BTFO
>cuck culture BTFO
PLEASE

>>33612604
You're retarded. It's physically impossible for everyone who wouldn't support the succession to leave- it just won't happen. People locked up in jail, or rural communities who stayed to defend their farms, or loyalists who stayed to fight a guerrilla war would all be punished under your idea.
Not to mention that state constitutions decide the qualifications for voting in said state, and the main US gov't is not allowed to change a state constitution.
Furthermore, the Californian economy would be crippled from lack of population for a generation, which would heavily damage the US economy as whole as well.

>>33612760
>This new breed of militant liberalism isn't like anything we've encountered in recent memory,

I'm old enough to remember the 70s. We had over 1900 domestic bombings in the US in 1972. What we're experiencing right now is standard Left behavior- if they don't get their way, they pitch a tantrum. Hillary lost, which was apparently not fair.

Read this. It's lengthy, but well worth it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/status451.com/2017/01/20/days-of-rage/amp/

>>33612598
Well in this case we'd be able to kill those commies so that would b fun

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>>33612385
>mfw California might secede and go away in my lifetime

Good riddance.

>>33614518
the one difference today though is that social media will make a huge deal out of every fucking bombing that happens and people will actually be aware of it. The press tried their best to cover up the bombings in the 60's and 70's and there was nothing people could do about it. I think if twitter existed back then it would have turned out a bit differently.

>>33614518
Perhaps I'm not looking at a wide enough spectrum. I keep forgetting that there are a few more "older" people on this board than others. I'll happily concede that I don;t have the greatest view on the subject, especially since I've never lived through this before (lol24). It's interesting to read about how these things played out before, though, so thank you.

>>33614490
take it one step further. all the californians in the territory are readmitted in as only "american nationals", instead of citizens. so california is completely irrelevant to our politics. if they want to be a citizen they have to spend years going through the naturalization process.

just like many of our pacific island territories are now.

>>33612568
>implying any of the people here would fight for anything
/k/ is the right wing equivalent of north korea
Lots of firepower, but no fucking talent or will to use it

>>33614200
something that doesn't exist anymore because factories can move to china, mexico, canada, or the American South easily now.

>>33613977
Newsome?

take one for the team and keep him busy as governor for the 2020 election.

last thing we need is that Berkley shithead running for senate or president.

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>>33614588

>>33614624
it gets even better. as a territory, we can tax them but not give them a damn cent. Just look at Puerto Rico.

>>33612820
>It doesn't hurt me
Are you fucking serious mate? If a shitload of land, ports and a GDP the bigger than most countries left the US it wouldn't influence you at all?

Do you like under a rock and eat dirt?

>>33614357
Go eat a bullet, nazi.

>>33614067
>tfw SFSU
There are actual Americans suffering here. Don't kill us all.

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You numbskulls are aware that if California fucks off, Republicans will have a much easier time winning Presidential elections, right?

No one in their intelligent mind wants to give those clowns more power.

>>33614499
In the case of a guerilla war against a rogue state, I'd be happy to make a concession limiting their political status to that of a territory, and leaving their citizens as nationals as opposed to citizens, and removing them from the process of federal elections.

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>>33614661
You're from Reddit, I'm guessing.

>>33614674
Californians are dumb and full of themselves enough to try it.

>muh 8th largest economy.
>muh farms
>muh tech jobs

We will build the Trump Canal and redirect the Colorado River so it doesn't touch California.

Then we blockade them and prevent them from leaving.

>>33613822
No question marks friend. Killing commies = profit.

>large warm water port

Fuck no, we aint letting them go.

>>33614646
Not him, but I live innamountains and eat beans, onions, and cornbread almost exclusively. Fuck 'em.

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>>33612598
I'm not sure what you mean by "oppose the succession."

I thought this was an opportunity to kill communists.

>>33614756
Seattle is clear of ice year round.

>>33614706
What if we just built the NAWPA that is already completely planned and turned the state into a giant reservoir?

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>>33614644

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>>33614674
I'd actually like more Republican victories. Not because I like their platform, of course; they're nuts, and the worst sort of traitors, since they want by and large to betray the constitution for religion and money as opposed to the lesser leftist betrayal on account of principle, however misguided. No, I want Republicans to keep winning because every further term they stay in power Democrats will become more amicable to compromise on the 2a issue, since it's the only wedge issue they can afford to budge on. Abortion? Nope. Healthcare? Nada. Entitlements? Uh-uh.

My hope is that, given increasing desperation after two or three terms of Republican rule, they'd give way on the issue of guns and get their own bitter taste of that "reasonable compromise" stuff they love to talk about.

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>>33614792
>flooding the patriotic center of the state

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>>33614792

it'd piss off leafs so this is a two birds one stone scenario

>>33614843
Who will now occupy the newly emptied coasts as a reward for their loyalty, of course.

>>33613496

Let me guess, you have an arts or humanities degree?

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Just remember, Elon Musk is /ourguy/. So we have to leave Tesla and SpaceX intact.

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>>33612385

>>33615081
The idea isn't to destroy cali. It's to begin the witch-hunt.

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>>33615061
>tfw southeastern Stanislaus County

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>tfw no state of jefferson

1.) Calexit won't happen

2.) If it did, there wouldn't be any fighting

3.) If there was fighting, you wouldn't take part in it

4.) If you did take part in it, you cartoon board-dwelling NEETs would get BTFO

>>33612385
this is some terrorist shit why the fuck hasn't the fbi busted these people? why doesn't the irs go after these people? left-wing policies are always more violent... fucking jew bastards

heil hitler

>>33614419

In what retarded universe?

Damn Commies, screw them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XxYwWg7F8I

>>33612594

Salem here, and it's literally just Portland, Eugene, and Seattle. Fuck those places and (almost) everyone who lives there. The populations there are where almost all of the libtards come from.

>>33615205
there is no legal or constitutional method of secession. the constitution would have to be amended. So CalExit would be over the moment they declared it. As the FBI, Marshals, etc would just arrest all the politicians and Bourgeoisie that supported it.

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>>33615288
>constitution
>not jewish propaganda

pick 1

Wow, it's so hard to spot the liberal reddit transplants. Gee, their camouflage is so good you guys. Wow.

>>33612385
Why the fuck would I want to risk dying in order to continue to "enjoy" a US with all the liberals from California instead of actually enjoying a US without all the liberals from California?

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>>33614661
Waiting to give you yours.

>>33615288
But there is right to institute new government in the Declaration of Independence

>>33615344
because we can bring California and the Californians back into the Union as territory and leave the californians with out citizenship.

so we get all the benefit of california being apart of the country, with out the californians having political franchise.

>>33614826
You're delusional, we are currently reaping what the left has sown for the last decade.
Trumps following isn't going anywhere, and you're wishful thinking of the lying democrats giving a single fuck about you're freedoms they wish to strip away is laughable.

>>33615288
Nothing would happen ultimately.

The "closest" we can get to Calexit that a bunch of far-leftists manage to pull together enough state legislature support to "declare" their eventual content for a referendum on if people want secession. Nothing comes of it because legally nothing can be done.

Nobody in Cali is going to fight for independence, nobody wants it THAT badly. It's just passive aggressive shit they say on social media. Just like none of you will fight against them.

History is littered with wars people knew would never happen.

>>33613496
>Commie militias electing their own leaders
>implying they wouldn't reject the results of their own vote

>>33613600
They're green and overgrown because they've been sitting fallow for about 5 years and california's been getting rain every few weeks. Fallow means it hasn't been planted and tilled because the central san joaquin valley ag sector's been getting between 0 and 20% of their paid for water deliveries due more to politics than anything else.

Anyway, like the other anon said, wait till summer... actually probably may. the valley's been over-run by non native grasses, it'll all be dead and gone to seed by the end of may.

>>33612385
Yes, I envision armed checkpoints at dinosaur point and at the top of the grapevines by the end of the first day, and a "fuck you sactown" checkpoint at flag city.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, california has the following problems if they want to secede:

>No professional soldiers.
>no internationally recognized currency
>No way to pay the mountain of debt already due their government workers.
>they would start with roughly a third of the military might of what is largly considered to be the most powerful military on the planet already within their borders.
>A very pro-U.S. insurgency from day one.
>Not enough power generation inside the state and a strong likelihood that they would lose access to the western grid.

Among other issues.

>>33612766
Honestly this would be really good for Seattle and Washington in general. Imagine all the good that normally go thru Longbeach going thru Seattle, the economy would fucking explode.

>>33615369
>Shield with a laser

Are you me?

>>33612766
What makes you think Oregon and Washington are going to stick around after California walks?

>>33613248
>Oregon
Nah fuck you. Only like three cities in Oregon are blue shitholes. However Kate Brown should be exiled to Commifornia.

>>33612647
Almost all places get red when you leave the cities. One's politics are almost a direct result of the environment they grow up in. Cities always get whatever they want from the state gov because they are basically a guarantee for the politician's next term. Towns get leftovers and have to pull themselves up by their bootstraps or else receive welfare which is shameful in their eyes. People growing up in the city see gun violence. People growing up in towns see guns used in hunting and for fun.

>>33615402
Please, I know you must be angry, but calm down for long enough to give your grammar and syntax some thought so I can actually discern what you're trying to say here.

>>33614275
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap?wprov=sfla1
>Malevolent fairies
Yeah that sounds like 4chan

>>33613139
The drought's been over for a while dude.

>>33613248
Only really blue areas of washington is the puget sound area which is sadly where i live

>WHAT CALIFORNIANS THINK OF CALEXIT: POLL SAYS MAJORITY OF VOTERS DON'T LIKE TRUMP BUT DON'T WANT TO LEAVE U.S.

>The poll from the University of California, Berkeley’s Institute of Governmental Studies found neither registered Democrats nor Republicans living in California would strongly support a statewide secession from the U.S. Just 44 percent of Democrats and 15 percent of Republicans said they would vote in favor of a succession. Overall, 68 percent of voters said they would not support a ballot measure calling for California’s independence from the U.S., while only 32 percent said they would.

tldr Calexit is a pipe dream. Not even the majority of democrats want it.

>>33615578
Preach on fellow Oregon Anon.

>>33612385
they would never be allowed to last long, there are surprisingly large bases in Caili.

>>33614062
>>33612568
If we can somehow shill this into textbooks as "The Fizzled Californian Secession" we could permanently blow out liberals for generations to come.
>Californians and states with similar ideology expressed extreme dismay at the presidential election of Donald J. Trump in November 2016, bringing threats of secession at an all time high. After the realization that the people in question would be required to give up the comforts afforded by modern city life and purchase the same firearms they had been legislating into oblivion up until this point, the movement fizzled into nothing more than a whisper.

>>33614070
Lol I'm a Teamster and everyone else I know is conservative as fuck and only a member cause we're a closed shop

>>33615413
this
they'll bitch and moan about how (candidate that's not a democrat) is running this country into the ground everytime they lose an election, but they'll do a complete 180 and start being pro-gov't and dickride their obama/hillary2.0 candidate for 4 years. they're all pussies because there's no mass exodus into canada after an election, despite their cries for attention that they'll do it for sure this time
>republicans do this to, so you faggots aren't off the hook.

burn your SSN cards, grind off your serial numbers from your guns, go innawoods

I still don't understand all the people threatening to leave over Trump. Whatever, like, okay, you say you like this country, but you're not willing to stick with it no matter how shit it seems to be getting?
I don't like the man at all, I think he's a thin-skinned, bullheaded asswipe, and I disagree with a lot of his politics, but you don't see me threatening to run off to Canada.

What the fuck is with libshits running off at the first sign of opposition or trouble or anything not going perfectly for them?

>>33616654
They're not running off anywhere. Saying you're going to leave the country if so-and-so wins the election happens every election and nobody ever moves after the fact. Maybe you're not old enough to have seen it happen multiple times.

Also don't disrespect the president, pleb.

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>>33616820
>dont disrespect the president
YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO

Would I fight cali secession? Nope.

After Mexico invades and ethnically cleanses it I'll happily join the invasion to take it back for the US.

>>33616599
399 represent

hang all leftists.

>>33614281
what a fucking retard you are
and those farmers in the midwest & plains sure are stupid not growing kiwis. them lil fuckers are expensive so why not just grow a state full of 'em?

>>33616950
>California takes the advice of retard anon; grows innumerable amount of kiwis.
>Kiwis are now so numerous they fall sharply in value.
>Californian economists rue the day they took the advice of an autistic 4channer.

>>33612385
first, you can tell the difference between the texans and californians that want to leave the union, the californians would spell secession correctly.

>>33617069
Than explain all the successes for secession in this thread not all are on one side?
Its not like Californians don't make mistakes.

>>33616654
the only people who actually ran away when trump won are the people who are illegal immigrants and were afraid they would get deported. all the libtards I know (and I know a lot because I'm in California) are still here. they whined about oh maybe I'll go back to Asia or oh maybe I'll go to Canada but none of them have moved an inch.

There was much butthurt that week in November.

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>>33617069
>the californians would spell secession correctly

Anyone that actually thinks any US state will secede is retarded. Esp. Cali. It's our biggest economy, those faggots are not going anywhere.

>>33616010
What is this "while" at which you speak?

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>>33612385
>a state of liberal faggots fighting a proper war of succession

It wouldn't be hard to bring them to their knees. Just blockade their ports and they'll have no choice to surrender.

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>>33617069
>implying Californians are smart

jej

>>33617556
the only people that live in the dark places are dumb white peo-

oh

>>33612385
>navy couldn't blockade ports
plebbiters cant into totalen krieg

>>33612613
sign themselves up to join a 3rd world country shit they would destroy themselves

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They'd get the old southern treatment, not even Texas is that fucking stupid.

>>33614281
>Grain's grown in the Midwest because it's a lower value crop, suitable for lower value land
Oh wow, someone who is actually fucking retarded.

Congratulations on figuring out how to solve captcha.

>>33614826
>to betray the constitution for religion and money as opposed to the lesser leftist betrayal on account of principle
kek
It's not 1987 faggot, christcuck shit is a thing of the past

>>33617764
>lesser betrayal
>leftists

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>>33616443
Underrated post. Political power is 100% backed by violence. It is important to point out how a population that disarms itself becomes helpless against any political opposition to their interests. They are drowning in debt and SJW voters want to spend more.

I would love to live in CA, but seriously fuck the Democrats and the state senate's irresponsible spending. California's next goveror (Newsom) will utterly ruin the economy.

Califag here. I'm pretty much a pacifist that loves to go plinking, but I'd happily join Federal forces to retake California if Calexit ever became a thing. Fuck Jerry Brown and fuck Fagin Newsom.

>>33612385
>California secedes
>Promptly burns to the ground next fire season without the influx of wildland firefighters across the country coming to help them

>>33617556
>Texas
>100
Spics are smarter than I thought considering half the state is now occupied by them.

>>33616218
/k/ just wants to kill people they disagree with in a civil war. Let them have their pipe dream.

>>33612756
>the federal government threatening removing ALL funding from a state but still demanding a fuck ton of taxes isn't reason to threaten leaving
>federal government threatening to, in every way, ass fuck the state despite the state governments wishes
>literally entering taxation without representation tier bullshittery

>>33612385
Califag here
no chance of this happening. Like. At all. Only dipshits who live in places that you visit but no person would live support this. It's kinda a joke at this point.
But yes I would take shots at stupid commies

>>33614619
Nigger Californians fucking hate that pretty boy faggot.

>>33617941
They are quite capable if given the chance instead of immediately being placed on state welfare for being brown. I live in Missouri so my mileage may very but most of the ones I've met work their asses off and place immense importance on education with their children. Hell, during parent-teacher conferences they show up wearing their Sunday best.

>California secedes
>US Navy easily blockades the state.
>Army sends a Division south of San Diego for a blocking action against Mexican imports
>Army easily controls all territory outside major cities because 90% of the state by landmass are Republican loyalists.
>Burn LA and San Francisco to the ground after Mattis' March to the Sea
>Rebel cities subjugated by the military
>PFC Schmuckatelli oversees the court house, spends his evenings fucking the wives and daughters of rebels for an extra food ration.
>Rebels treated like illegal immigrants, only loyalists can vote or travel freely
>Send in carpetbaggers from southern states to steal rebel land and businesses.
>Get to spend the rest of our lives forcing their children to learn that their parents were traitors and fought for the party of slavery.

I would be thrilled if California gave us a reason to subjugate them.

>>33617556
If only there were some way to explain this. Hmm...

>>33612385

>the worst ideology

Why does a communist mock his own people?

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>cali leaves
>/k/ommandos invade with milsurp, AR's and AK's
>some would definitely make bombs and aloha snackbar important places
>after a long 20 minute slaughter old California is no more
>in its place, /k/alifornia
>guns and milsurp clothing for all

only under the condition I am allowed to take at least twelve (12) Californian women for my harem

>>33613890
>those icky gun toting rednecks could be the reason why she has roads to drive on.
Because it's not. California is propped up by Silicon Valley and ((((Hollywood)))).

>>33612760
> they may very well decide that armed violence is simply pre-emptive self defense, and therefore, justified.

this point of view seems as american as apple pie. at least based on your foreign policy of the last 70 years

>>33619396
.......those two together dont even make up 19% of California's economy.

I guess the jokes on me for expecting economic literacy from /k/

>>33612385
>lazy failed farmers in flyover states
I HATE HATE HATE being called a flyover state
and if these liberal pukes they can shittalk Midwest corn and get away with it, they got another thing coming

let's fuck em up

i was born in so-cal. i fully and publicly support california's secession.

form my home in central indiana.

im going to call my folks right now and remind them one more time how grateful i am they moved us out of that dump when i was a pup.

>>33619396
Neither of those is a significant factor in the CA economy. Oil, on the other hand, is.

Or did you not know that CA is an oil producing state?

>>33619679
>California become own country.
>Immediately enacts statewide ban on fracking and raises tax on companies drilling for oil.

>>33615557
Because while they're retarded, they're not as retarded as you are. CA is a special brand of retarded that not even the most left wing states wish to emulate it.

>>33614141
Good for you fellow Coloradan
I'll come too

>>33614518
If I was a liberal right now, I'd be telling everyone to hold over, wait for Trump to go to war with Syria (something that no Trump voter wanted) and play the Bush angle for 2020.

I mean, that's why I voted Obama in 2008.

>>33619679
While neither are directly involved in the economy like oil and food producers are, they (mainly silicon valley, idk how movies are even taxed. Presumably spending billions of dollars making movies and then making billions off ticket sales et al creates some tax revenue, right?) are large sources of tax revenue for the state. So infrastructure and schools and shit are reliant on them.