What's the standard loadout for a British soldier?

>>33612154
3 packs of digestives
2 liters of tea-making water
1 teapot
7 apology cards, in 9 languages each
1 set of Invisalign™ braces
1 jar of pomade
Gun and ammo optional

>>33612154
You can add more magazines and mortar rounds/GPMG link and drop the mine detector, the SUSAT has been phased out now in favour of Elcans and Spectres and not once did I see someone carrying a bar mine.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-one/11011316/Military-kit-through-the-ages-from-the-Battle-of-Hastings-to-Helmand.html

>>33612239
you forgot the crumpet MREs

>>33612258
Is a mine detector not a useful thing to have?

>>33612286
They don't work on IEDs

every STD possible and a bottle of tesco vodka judging by the ones I've met

>>33612273
oh shite sorry m8

>>33612295
Or the majority of actual mines.

>>33612286
Of course but not everyone had one, mostly people just carried extra ammunition for the support weapons and radio batteries, it would look pretty mad to see every man swinging a metal detector around while patrolling.

>>33612258
>Elcans and Spectres

Who the fuck is getting those? I thought the modern sight in usage was the LDS?

>>33612258

wait

>>33612330
the LDS is a fucking Elcan, I'm just being stupid

>>33612258
I notice there is no grenades or smoke listed?

>>33612330
LDS is manufactured (Well, the primary sight is) by Eclan. Not sure who makes the EBS.

The spectre is the Trijicon sight some units have.

>3SCOTS has them, I think.

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>>33612330
>I thought the modern sight in usage was the LDS?
Am I missing something?

>>33612351
Yes those were carried as well, everyone carried at least 1 smoke but most spare grenades carried would have been for the 40mm UGL, other units may have carried the hand thrown variety but we preferred to lob them at longer range.

>>33612375

Did everyone have a ugl then?

Also how does the kit for the average Royal Marine compare to an army squaddie?

>>33612502
>Did everyone have a ugl then?

We had two UGL's per section, 1 per fire team.

>Also how does the kit for the average Royal Marine compare to an army squaddie?

Exactly the same, Infantry in the British forces have pretty standard training and equipment, the booties did the same job as the Army in Iraq and Afghanistan and learned the same lessons.

Is that bullpup as fucked as I hear? It looks just real bad

>>33612354
Why would they give a good sight to a bunch of criminals?

>>33612581
The A2 is accurate and reliable but heavy and a bastard to clean, the A1 is every bit as bad as the memes say. The upcoming A3 intends to strip some of that weight, it will certainly be welcome.

>>33612619

It seems to me Britain decided to go with it just because of stubborn tradition and not wanting to feel like they lost by using "our" rifle.

What benefits does the A2 or even the A3 have over an M4A1? Ego aside, would that just be easier?

>>33612640
>What benefits does the A2 or even the A3 have over an M4A1? Ego aside, would that just be easier?
It was actually cheaper at the time to buy new M16's rather than upgrade the A1's to A2's but the politicians did not want to admit they fucked up so they stuck with it, nowadays the A2 is so reliable that no other 5.56 rifle offers enough benefits to justify the costs of arming and retraining hundreds of thousands of troops.

>>33612640
Its 2 inches shorter with 6 inches more barrel.

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>>33612674

You're in too deep, huh? I guess that could be said of the AR platform too. I am sad the US Military seems intent on sucking HK's cock so bad, I would have liked to see more money go towards FN and the SCAR program

>>33612674
This is fucking wrong. Still breaks itself, still unreliable.

>>33612708
>Still breaks itself, still unreliable.
How so? What did you do to fuck it?

>>33612708
You are fucking wrong.

Why doesn't the British Army use the A1 on training exercises?

They're pretty much identical cosmetically and weight wise, but since they're less reliable, the people using them will have more experience with stoppages.

>>33612581
I was a cadet for a few months, we had some decommissioned ones that we had to take apart and do rifle drill with and stuff, let me tell you they are the ugliest, most unwieldy, complex, uncomfortable rifles to handle and take apart ever and I've never even shot one
also I can see why they have such issues and jammed so much just from looking at the internals
basically there fucking piles of wank hoping they adopt something else by the time I get in

>>33612762
>Why doesn't the British Army use the A1 on training exercises?
They no longer exist outside of a few private collectors, every A1 in service was upgraded.

>>33612781

I'm getting a headache imagining how much money that must have cost

>>33612772
>I was a cadet for a few months
Threads over folks, we have found a real expert.

>>33612154
a blunt plastic knife and a copy of the holy qu'ran

>>33612772
>I was a cadet for a few months

WEW WO WE WO MODS WE HAVE AN UNDERAGE POSTER

>>33612781
Yeah, but didn't they just keep all the old ones and actually get some use out of them rather than phasing it out in it's entirety?

>>33612772
>let me tell you they are the ugliest, most unwieldy, complex, uncomfortable rifles to handle and take apart ever and I've never even shot one
>I've never even shot one

I hope you realise how fucking stupid you sound

>>33612792
>I'm getting a headache imagining how much money that must have cost
£400 per rifle, as I said it would have been cheaper to buy M16's at the time but nowadays there is no justification for replacing an entire platform.

>>33612811
*but why didn't

>>33612154

>garbage bullpup
>bad teeth
>erection at the thought of american servicemen
>1 package of flavorless tea

>>33612811
>Yeah, but didn't they just keep all the old ones and actually get some use out of them rather than phasing it out in it's entirety?
Why keep them? Better to upgrade them and get proper use out of them.

>>33612772
It's not even remotely difficult to take apart or handle.

>>33612354
wtf u talking about I own a Spectre and it's made by elcan. I literally bough the Bbritbong 3.4x non adjustable one because they didnt trust the 1x/4x throw lever.

>>33612356
Oh I'm retarded yhe LDS is what I own. I guess its 4x anf my elcan is 3.2 somehow my mind turned that into 3.4

>>33612772
And you're comparing this to all the other rifles you've familiarised yourself with? You sure it wasn't because you were a limp wristed mong?

>>33612772
>I've never actually used one but I'm jumping on the hate band wagon because some 14 year old cadet Corporal told me they are bad

Given you're a bong, I'm guessing you have nothing to compare it to.

Stop posting

>>33612901
>You sure it wasn't because you were a limp wristed mong?
He was probably 14, any older and being in the cadets mean getting a kicking at school.

>>33612934
To be fair to him, I did cadets in the 90's, and it was the thing all the cool kids did.

I'm guessing that's not the case now.

>>33612949
I was in the cadets too but it got embarrassing when you realise you are about to leave school and spend your free time with 12 year olds.

>>33612792

Welcome to the anger inducing world of government procurement

>>33612981
Yeah, I left when I was 16. I image it's weird if you're 18 and everyone around you is 12.

>>33613009
Our Cadet Warrant Officer was 18 and I was shocked that he said he was a vehicle mechanic, I really thought he was in the real armed forces and he just volunteered for the cadets. All my respect for him was gone that day, he looked like he was in his late twenties so could have made up any shit and we would have believed him.

>>33612981
>this desu
I stopped going pretty much at the start of year 11 since dealing with retarded kids wasn't my thing.

If the L98A2 cadet GP rifle and L86 LSW are any indicator it definitely is a reliable family of rifles, but they are heavy for what they are. Easy to disassemble, not as easy as the AR-15 platform or other rifles I've handled, but nothing too fiddly. The fact that you can fuck up the gas system if you turn it the wrong way should be fixed though, if it hasn't already been.

>>33613197
You never had the pleasure of using the straight pull L98A1 then, biggest pile of shit ever.

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>>33612154
>pic related

>>33613302
I did, and I agree. I didn't bother including it since it's straight pull, and contrary to my point too.

Man, firing more than a couple of magazines of blanks with those pieces of shit was garbage, stoppages all the damned time.

>>33613035
I was in the air cadets when I was 15 and looking back now you realise all your "superiors" were literally just middle aged men and 18 year old outcasts playing dress up on a Tuesday evening.

>>33613344
this soooooo fucking much. it fucking helped the filght sargents mother was a fucking warrent officer

I hate Brits so fucking much it isn't even funny. I want to watch that disgusting ugly little island of theirs flood over and all of them die.

>>33613384
thanks a bunch mate.

>>33613329
To be fair I think every service rifle hates blanks, I have fired blanks with the L85A2, M16A4, M4A1, Aussie AUG as well as the GPMG and Minimi, stoppages with live rounds on the other hand were rare with all of those weapons.

>>33613401
True, but the A1 GP liked to lock up and not want to cock once it got hot enough. Talk about an arm workout for weedy 13 year olds.

>>33613384
And I hate autistic fucks

>>33613344
Looking back I am annoyed that I was intimidated by adult staff that has no experience at all, I was in when Northern Ireland was done and the Arabs were yet to play the worlds biggest game of Jenga, 1998 was pretty boring.

>>33613464
the WO1 was fucking spoopy, and she was 60

>>33613513
Females are even worse, nowadays when I hear ex service women boasting about shit they did I just shake my head and walk off.

>>33613571
she was a bitch. the flight lieutenant was allright, stern, but could have a chuckle

>>33613344

Cringe looking back at all the pomp and ceremony doing drills and saluting lmao

>>33613609
worse then they act like you are real service men

>>33613687
Being a cadet it is easy to get fooled by it all, the real sad fucks are the never served adult instructors walking around with rank giving advice they got second hand.

>>33613724
that one night they got real RAF men in was bretty gud.

>>33613747
>real RAF men
Fucking hell, please tell me they were rockapes bragging about patrolling the cookhouse in Bastion?

>>33613571
you'd like this then:

https://thewaltercumpershunterclub.wordpress.com/2017/02/02/azi-ahmed-and-her-sas-lies/

>>33613780
nah. they worked with E3s at some base up in linconshire
54sqd

>>33613802
scratch the E3s they were a fighter sqd

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>>33612772
>ugliest
No

>Most unweildy
Only if you're a left handed mong

>Complex
HOLY SHIT you must be actually retarded, if a 19 year old tom from 3 Para can manage to wrap his 4 and a half brain cells around it just fine then anyone fucking can, it is not even remotely complex

>uncomfortable
I'll give you that one


>and I've never even shot one
Oh it shows, because if you had, you'd know that it's one of the most accurate NATO rifles going

>also I can see why they have such issues and jammed so much just from looking at the internals
Bollocks, I've only ever had a stoppage if it was my own fault, A2's don't jam up unless you're being a dickhead and putting 1000 rounds through it a day on full chuckle
Also, not like you would know jack fucking shit about the internals, because 1: You're a fucking idiot, and 2: you don't know how the weapon even fucking operates

So stop talking shit you dirty little mong cunt and don't ever join the army because it will be everybody's pleasure to beast you around the lot

>>33613795
>I did SAS selection and passed but they kicked me out because I intimidated them.

What a crock of shit, I had an argument once with a civvie woman about why women cannot be snipers, the fact you have to pass the Infantry course at Catterick first just seemed to confuse her.

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>tfw unit just gave us some ally regimental jumpers and t shirts

>>33613956
>ally regimental jumpers and t shirts
The sort of things sprogs buy on first leave? They never look ally mate.

Howdy, English /k/omrades, ignorant American here.

What's the Cadets? Is it like Boy Scouts or JROTC or something?

And why are you all bagging on em so hard, isn't any scrap or semblance of martial pride a good thing in today's Britain?

>>33613970
cadets is like millitry boy scouts, the issue is most people there were either pompous cunts or idiots

>>33613991
Those are pervasive problems within the American boy scouts as well.

Damn shame, Baden-Powell must be turning in his grave.

>>33614046
let me put it this
it would be good without other people

>>33613970
>What's the Cadets? Is it like Boy Scouts or JROTC or something?
It is a Military sponsored organisation sponsored by the Armed Forces for 12-18 year olds, members are not paid and cannot be deployed. Adult instructors are volunteers and do not require previous military experience but start with the rank of Sergeant, they are considered reservists but again cannot be deployed and they do not have to maintain the same fitness requirements of their counterparts.

>>33613969
No, our unit was re-orbated under (((Army 2020))) so our new regimental kit is newly designed

>>33614055
>but start with the rank of Sergeant

In name only right?


They couldn't start bossing a regular bod about could they?

>>33614097
fuck no. a cadet meets a real bod and they shit them selfs

>>33612258
>Elcan Spectre

I still don't see why governments like this.
Move on to 1-6x scopes already.

>>33614097
I once saw a Cadet Corporal try to order around a regular half screw, spotty ran off crying and no doubt called his parents.

>>33612693

Keep that plastic meme gun away please

bulky ass hasbro garbage

>>33614126
Because unlike our benevolent american counterparts, our shooting standards are a bit higher

140 metres is NOT DMR range, you can easily hit accurately up to 400 metres with a SA80, 800 with an LSW

git gud yank noobs lmao

>>33614167
Stop shit posting, it has been a civil thread so far and thats fucking rare.

>>33614261
we are one in are hate for cadets

>>33614279
>we are one in are hate for cadets
>are
No, do not lump me in with you.

>>33613384
Frog detected

>>33613384
>>33614302
which poster are you?

>>33613970
You guys don't have them? We have them in Canada too.

>>33614167
I don't know why you would willingly go with a shitty eyebox, less eye relief, less illumination and fewer magnification settings if you are going to war.

>>33614324
Ex cadet, think it is cringy now, served 8 years in the PWRR and am now semi retired. I also posted >>33612258 and answered a few questions.

>>33614387
thanks man, but im talking to this sack of hate>>33614302
unless you are him.in which case oops

>>33614404
Yes that is me, my spelling is not that bad even after a bottle of vodka. I also do not hate the cadets since I used to be one and had a lot of fun at the time, I hate people speaking speaking for me a lot more.

>>33614445
my bad then
assumtion is the mother of all fuck ups
at least someone enjoyed it

>>33614455
No worries mate, lifes too short to get annoyed by shit on /k/.

>>33614498
to be truthfull, the activitys were good, and SOME of the NCOs were allright. but i just couldent stand the other cadets

>>33614525
Give a 14 year old rank and you will see a right prick, if I would have my way I would remove all ranks and add a few more stars to the brassard instead.