Shotgun thread

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Meme shottie reporting.

>>33601787
How's the weight distribution?

>put an 1897 on layaway
>full choke barrel
>serial number puts it at 1907
How haram would it be to chop the barrel and turn it into a trench gun lookalike?
Would it be feasible to get a second barrel to chop up and keep the original barrel intact?

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>>33601828
Even and light enough for more to hold with just my off hand.

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>>33601140
>buy shotgun for blasting shit with cheap bird shot
>buy some slugs because fuck it why not
>fire bird
>yea! the fun i remembered as an 18yo is back.
>fire slug
>pic related
>SUDDENLY
>feel like a god
>giant hole
>dat "BOOM"
>dat smoke
>OH GOD WHATS HAPPENING TO ME


i now have an unquenchable desire to buy slugs and a mossberg 930

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>>33601140
Fired pic related
Hatsan Aimguard Escort Pump Shotgun
I don't know what to say because since it was my first trial with a shotgun EVER, I guess it is better to ask the expert ones.

>>33601829
its an old fud shotgun, im sure theres a million of them in old peoples attics, i wouldent worry about it, but yea if you can find another barrel that would be best.

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>>33601140
Bog standard shitty 870. Ready for them deer what found heaters in the woods.

Why are shotguns so cheap compared to rifles and handguns?

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>>33602032
Retardedly simple. Do you have one? Take a look. No gas system on pumps. Few moving parts. Non-rotating bolt. The trigger is the most complex part on most. They're hard to fuck up. No wonder they're so cheap.

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Just picked up this Model 12 Featherweight today.

Pretty nice

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looking to buy a shotgun and want to know in your opinion whats the best i can get for under 350 or tops 400 dallorinos

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1990's Remington 11-87 Premier project gun.

Going to try to rework the crushed checkering on the wood (not pictured), maybe send it out to be reblued or something come fall. That's just spray on coating on it now...It barely had any finish left on it but the insides looked fine, oddly enough.

Shoots well, I like it so far.

>>33602426
Learn your serial numbers take a reference to the shop and only buy pre-2007 Remington. They were bought by a chinese cosplay blog service and the quality of their pump actions has gone down since.

>t. own a 2012 Remington 870

>>33602426
>>33602638

On that note, some newer Mossberg 500s have some cheaper Maverick style parts on them, like the pump handle.

If you get one like this and want to change the pump, you'll need the slide tube assembly to put the new part on. It's like a $60 part. I didn't know this and was highly confused when I tried to change mine.

You can tell by looking, the 'real' ones have a sort of metal tube inside the pump/slide handle and the maverick style ones are just molded plastic.

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>>33601889
Oh, I know this feeling
>shotgun for blasting shit
shotguns top tier for just blasting stuff

>>33602009
>Ready for them deer what found heaters in the woods.
whoa lol what

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>>33601140
RIGS
15-20rds in dump pouch: primary food for shotgun (im a lefty)

canteen pouch holds a 25rd box which is exclusively for refilling the dump if it runs dry

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>>33602966

>>33602032

There are many cheap shotguns, there are many expensive shotguns.

But, you're right, the shotgun is probably the most common cheap gun, and the most common on the used rack. Even non-gun people or families have likely owned one or still have one in the back of a closet somewhere.

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>>33602986

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>>33602748
i've seen that shit, almost got me once

>>33602966

unless that's a mishmash of stolen CIF issued gear I'm disgusted and confused by civilian ownership of UCP shit

>>33602426
Mossberg 500 or 590 (used).

A model 1897

Rem 870 PRE2007. DO NOT BUY 870's AFTER 07

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>>33603040
YEP ITS DYED UCP AND NAVY ABU

>>33603040
>airsoft

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Mossberg 500A with 18.5" Bbl, Hogue 12" LOP buttstock, Zytel heatshield, 6-round sidesaddle Meprolight night-sight and 3-point sling.

Eagle LE chest rig with 5x 12 round Paraclete shotshell pouches and Sparrows Sentry lockpick pouch.

>>33603068

I don't understand why civilians would want OCP, we were (and still are) scrambling over each other to ditch that shit for multicam/OCP. Horrible pattern. At least you dyed it, I knew some guys that did that in Afghanistan.

>>33603095

*would want UCP

sorry am drunk

>>33602032

You haven't priced a good one, have you?

Buy me one of these for Christmas:
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/636592606

>>33603095
Tactical Assault Gear clearance
..their ABU & UCP stuff is in permanent discount mode

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>>33602426
Picked up my 870 for $379

>>33603046
Took a gamble on a new one, no issues so far after several months

>>33603068
*AIR FORCE ABU

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My meme scattergat

>>33603181
at least its a fun meme
strap looks comfortable

>>33603131
what sight

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Mine is not really impressive.

>>33603254
Actually works pretty good

https://www.amazon.com/Truglo-Defense-Fiber-Optic-12-20Ga/dp/B003DWM6V8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1491874986&sr=8-2&keywords=shotgun+sights

>>33603287
copped!

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>>33601140

>>33601829
If the barrel is that old it could be a shorter chamber (2 1/2 " vs 2 3/4"). You might want to look at a barrel from the 1897 Chinese clones instead.

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>>33601140
Bought this pupper yesterday as my first shotgun, cant wait to try it out next saturday.

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My old 3-gun shotgun. Mossberg 9200.

>>33601829
Takedown or not?
Barrels are hard to find and you need either the takedown or single peice.
>>33603829
Are the threads the same?
What about the cimmeron copy ?

>>33604440
dam that's nice

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>>33601140
Other than price and availability, is there any reason I shouldn't buy this?

>>33606519
literally none

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>>33606519
I don't regret spending an extra $150 for the folding stock model so I could do this.

>>33606536
what handguard options do I have with it?

Bought my first shotgun, a 590A1 Magpul. Is there any way to take out the trigger group without taking out the stock? Also, how often do you guys clean your pump actions? Mine is still surprisingly clean after 100 rds.

>>33606593
Quite a few options here, but I'm fine with the base one. They also have a bunch of muzzle devices.

https://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/VEPR_12_Shotgun_Handguard_Rails_s/2038.htm

>>33606619
100 rounds won't do anything to most pump action shotguns. It takes around a thousand to warrant a cleaning for them unless you plan to store it or not use it for a while.

>>33603181
I would take your gun to bed with me, but do nothing lewd. She looks too pure for anything lewder than holding hands

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DDI 12, wrong house, mother fucker

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>>33601140
Still haven't gotten my baby back from mossberg yet. Feels sad as I was just out shooting.

Also I highly reccomend the elzetta light mounts for the 500 series. Not easy to install / remove *quickly* but they are sturdy as fuck.

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I just want a belt-fed LMG shotgun

>>33606619

Truthfully man, I really only boresnake my shotguns and then oil patch the barrel. Wipe down the bits I touched and put them away.

Once in a while I'll disassemble and clean.

Is the Mossberg 590a1 magpul worth the dosh? Is the magpul furniture comfy?. Got a g19 and just finished my AR so it's about time tovround out my collection

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What are your thoughts on lever action shotguns /k/ are there any decent ones or brands?

I ask as pump action weapons are effectively illegal where I live

>>33607977
Hey Australian friend

>>33608006
howdy

>>33607977

Only one I've ever seen was in Terminator 2. Worked well on the motorcycle.

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I'm in need of (you)s.

>>33608099

Neat.

>>33608099
Nice

>>33608099
Needs more shells attached at odd angles

>>33606536
That gas station grade optic will last about a dozen shots. Hope you're going to replace it soon.

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>>33608244
They may be odd but they are functional and faster than "traditional."

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>>33601140
purchase regret reporting in

Winchester SXP Extreme Defender

Im just not a fan of the ghost sights or short tube.

>>33608099
Which model scattergat is that m80?

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Cheap but cute. Refinished the stock and replaced some of the innards myself. Recently ordered a slip on recoil pad to cover a crack near the butt, and to reduce felt recoil because the thing weighs all of 5 pounds.

>>33606741
>Full Auto belt fed shotgun
>No stock, only pistol grip

What did wrists ever do to you?

>>33601140
Ordered a stoeger m3k on ky this past weekend, hopefully going to start 3gun when I get used to it

>>33601929
>milsurp
>fudd
Ingest bleach

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>>33608689
What model is that and where can I get one?

>>33601889
They're fun but they hurt afterawhile

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>>33608639
Remshit 870.
Vang Comp follower and safety.
1100 dog leg spring.
Trap weight trigger spring.
Polished chamber, inside of mag tube, bolt and carrier, ends of action bars.
I think that's all I did other than the obvious.

>>33608776
Move to Russia
That's just about your only chance.

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>>33601140
1908

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Quick question: I'm looking into picking up a Winchester pump scattergun, and I'm deciding between these two: Either a new Winchester sxp, or a used Model 120 in "Excellent condition". What's the better purchase?

>>33609416
What if you live in a country that hasn't banned Russian imports?

>>33608349
Funny, since it's stayed minute of bird for hundreds of shots now.

Idk though, maybe I got a good one.

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Remington 870 Police

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Remington 11-87 Police

>>33607917
Magpul furniture is great. A bunch of 'tismos don't like it even though they've never even handled it and just want to be edgy.
I didn't think they were anything special til I played with a gun that had the set in a store. After that, I ordered myself a set and was even happier after shooting with them.

>>33607977
I love them. However, it would be nice if the US COULD FUCKING RECIEVE ADLER LEVER ACTION SHOTGUNS FOR SALE HERE. Seriously, do they only cater to cucks? Their profit would skyrocket if they ship them here as well.

>>33602106
What shotgun is that anon, I like it. 870?

>>33607917
>>33606619 here, it's worth it only if you really want all of the magpul stuff. It comes with the magpul stock, forend, sling attachment mounts, and cheek riser piece for the stock. If all you wanted was the stock, I think it's a bit cheaper to buy separately. The stock is good for home defense/tactical setup because the length of pull and cheek weld are adjustable. The original stock is way too long for most people. Note that the 590A1 magpul comes with 20" barrel, 8 shot tube, and xs ghost ring sights with rail. These also bump up the price. I'm slightly regretting my choice because the thing is super front heavy loaded. 18" barrels are so much more maneuverable and non-A1 is a lot lighter. If you don't want all the magpul stuff and don't care for ghost ring sights, get the other models. I think a regular 590 18" is the best for home defense in the 500 series lineup.

>>33603068
Actually kinda like it dyed

>>33608699
What shotgun?? Plz help

>>33610758
>>33610769
Buy those new? How are they if so?

>>33611149
Yes, the 11-87P I bought I think in 2012 and still have the box. The pic is actually an older pic in my phone, the shotty now wears a Surefire weaponlight handguard. Only other mod was I changed the charging handle. Needs nothing else, this shotgun is fucking fantastic. Doesn't cycle small loads though. Older models can, but newer models were designed this way. Can be modified to accept low recoil loads by widening gas ports.

The 870P I have had for several years as well. Also have a second one that has a lovely Remington "petina" and the older LPS weaponlight handguard.


I have never had any issues whatsoever with the Police models.

I will had I also have the Remington 700 "Police" and "LTR" rifles as well.

>>33602178
Would you recommend this over an 1897 or an Ithaca?

>>33611146
nef pardner pump + nice rem 870 furniture

>>33611243
>have never had any issues whatsoever with the Police models.
Sweet. I've been thinking of picking up a new pump gun, but I hear bad things about new Remington all the time.

>>33611267

Haven't had the chance to shoot it yet. I'd love an 1897 and an Ithaca to boot, but without having run some shells through the Model 12 I couldn't give you a solid answer.

Aesthetically and structurally it's pretty rock solid but I can't speak for its performance

>>33609426
I've got a 1912 takedown one but its been bubba'd, enough that I got it for 199$

Some fudd sloppily took a saw to it and threw on an ugly bright orange buttpad, why are fudds and bubba's cruel to weapons?

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>>33606619
>Is there any way to take out the trigger group without taking out the stock?
can use fine sandpaper to slowly remove enough material...did this with mine

>>33611117
thanks

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>>33601140
General purpose 870 wingmaster

>>33611345
I wanted an 870P new but all of the "post-2008 rem sucks" made me buy a 590A1 instead. I know that Police models get better parts and QC, but I'm not sure if that got affected as well.

>>33611243
I bought a used 870 Magnum recently with a legacy laser product forend. Do you know if it's possible to upgrade the lamp? I can't find a lot of information on laser product stuff.

>>33608645
I have that shotgun myself, anon! I've thought about cutting down the barrel just for giggles. I also went with a rubber buttpad, it really helps for if you wanna shoot 3" shells out of the damn thing.

>>33611345
It's not worth it to buy a police model. You're better off with upgrading the express. The metal trigger guard is the fucking meme of all memes. You can buy the police parts or better aftermarket versions for less than the difference between the express tactical and police guns.
Working over a Wingmaster is also an option.

>>33610681

If that's true, it's impressive. All I have seen of that style reflex sight, regardless of brand, all fail pretty quickly on centerfire rifles and shotguns.
Glad it's working for you. Don't poke the bear and just run it until it eventually gives up. In your case it sounds like a good investment.

>>33611535
I've heard new Express 870s are the most shoddily put together, though.

>>33611458
>all of the "post-2008 rem sucks"
Yeah, this is all horseshit. Considering the volume of products Remington produces the instances of problems are marginal- it's just that with today's instant and widespread information resources over the Internet, defective products get blown out of proportion. And if you notice it's usually never first hand accounts. In fact the only "proof" of "quality control issues" of Remington products I have seen was a Remington 870 that was drilled and tapped I believe for a rail that was off center, but even then, WHO exactly did it is suspect. Most of this "post-2008" centers around negative publicity of it being purchased by Freedom Group & Cerberus who idiots seem to think are "anti-gun" and seemingly want to purposely put out defective firearms so that people stop buying them? How's that logic? I'll tell ya, it's fucking stooooopid!

>Do you know if it's possible to upgrade the lamp?
Your best and easiest bet is to buy the "P60L" bulb. This is an LED upgrade, but make sure to use the newer Z44 bezel as well. A company called Malkoff makes a drop in insert but it won't fit inside this weaponlight without some modification (need to hollow out the light a tad.) Malkoff sells an entire replacement light unit but I like the look of the old style. I have several of the weaponlights. Don't have the Malkoff but I do have a P60L and it's pretty good. Only problem is they have been discontinued. They pop up on eBay but tend to be pricey.

>>33611593
the price difference is enough to pay a gunsmith to work it over properly and end up with a better product

>>33611535
The edge over the Express is that the Police models will have a better quality control. In addition to the batter springs and extractor, the chamber is worked over better. As far is the metal trigger guard, I heard that they are putting plastic guard on new Police models now. Not sure if this is true or not. The magazine chamber of the Express model will need some modification if you want to add an extension. For all the work getting an Express and "upgrading" it with police parts, you might as well get a fucking Police model. Buy one used. There are plenty of companies that sell Police Dept trade-ins for like $300 or cheaper.

>>33611624
Do you think the Malkoff units are worth it? $100 is cheaper than buying a new forend and light, and I like the retro look of the forend. I haven't picked up my 870 yet because of CA bullshit, so I'm not sure if the old incandescent bulb is bright enough, but I am going to guess no.

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>having a magazine tube that doesn't extend to the muzzle of your gun

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>>33612024
I just realized this picture is ridiculous.

>whole shotgun being held by trigger hand
>wood doesn't appear to be shaped right for a pistol grip to be present (?)
>no strap

>>33611670
Oh noes, I had to buy two $3 springs and a $20 VQ extractor. But wait, I now have BETTER parts than the police model. Boo hoo I have to polish the chamber for about 4 minutes. ;(
Seriously, you don't know what your dorking about.

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Got this beaut for $365 brand new last summer.

590 packernized with Magpul furniture and ghost ring sights

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>>33611375
They think they can improve and that nothing is collectible or historical especially if it's cheap.

>>33611809
Too be perfectly honest, if you are meaning to have this as a home defense shotgun, you don't want to got too bright, as the light will likely bounce off the walls (if you have white or light colored walls) as give a sort of blindness. I prefer the incandescent. If you want, try and find the three battery Surefire unit that uses a P90 incandescent bulb. I don't have a Malkoff but A lot of people seem to swear by them over at candlepowerforums. The P60L bulb is good.

My 11-87 has the newer LM2 LED upgrade and it is too bright as I stated for my taste. I just found an LM1 (one battery module) and will try that when I get back home.

Having said that, go to Malkoff's site, they have units of varying degree of brightness. Do a google search and you will find comparative light shots of the units in image search.

>>33612148
But you do, amirite, poorfag? Typical loser knowitall, do you even operate operationally?

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>>33612190
>$365 brand new

>>33611645
Fair enough, I'll look into it.

>>33612190
Do you just take off the stock every time you take out the trigger group or have you found a way to do it without taking off the stock?

>>33612333
i want to point out by get a gunsmith to do it i dont mean replace express parts with police parts. i mean have the smith deburr, smooth out the action, refinish it to something that wont rust etc.
if you replace it its still stock rem you dont want stock rem.

>>33612716
I figured as much, though smoothing the action shouldn't be too hard to do on my own, as my friend can probably give me a hand with it.

>>33612024
I used to think like this, but recently I've started liking the barrel-past-magazine look. A 16" barrel is ideal really.

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Forgive my ignorance, but what kind of grip is this called?

Can't wait to get my first autoloader. I've settled on a Remington Versa Max Tactical.
The first thing I'm going to do is load up the tube with slugs and blast away.

>>33614161
Talon grip. I think Mossberg patented it.

>>33614161
chode grip

>>33614161
shockwave raptor grip
talon used to make something like it but they are out of business now
the generic term is birdshead for cutdown and sanded to shape stocks

>>33614161
Bird's head.

>>33614228
>>33614238
Thanks guys

>>33604440
I thought they only allowed optics in the open division.

>>33614161
Bird's head.

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https://www.classicfirearms.com/yugo-sks-semi-auto-762-39-original-condition-pti

Is this a ripoff? Should I look on gunbroker or local instead?

>>33614319
>>>33604440 (You)
>I thought they only allowed optics in the open division.

That's correct. This is what I ran before switching to a SAIGA-12 in those days. This would have been around 2005. I'm an RO for USPSA and I only shoot pistol these days.

>>33614333
Ah shit I posted this in the wrong thread sorry boys.

main difference between the talon and the shockwave is length
the talons were shorter, the raptor is longer for that has to make 26 overall firearms nfa fuckery

What slings do you guys recommend?

Holding shells isn't necessary, but would be nice.

>>33614476
holding shells is the worst possible thing. youd be better off using rope or an extension cord as a sling.
the issue with bandolier slings is they move. its a fuckload of weight shifting around throwing you off. when you want to reload you have to look for shells since the sling is swinging around.

>>33614634
Alright. Any recommendations on just regulars slings?

>>33611104
Easy to tell mossman from remshit, look at the triggers. Mossman is just a triggerguard. Remshit has the safety built in.

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>>33602426

>>33614814
Small LGS employee here, this is a good deal. Cost from various distributors range from 309-329.

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Fucking this guy, stitched two shell sleeves together and attached it to the forend of his Adler (lever action shotgun) talk about a fucking meme

>>33608689
Holy fuck what model and who's cock must i suck to get one?

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>>33612715
not him, but you can sand the u-shaped portion until the trigger assembly will clear it..didnt take much for my 590a1

>>33614476
https://www.blueforcegear.com/padded-vickers-sling
been using one of these
a light, do-all 2-point
the standard sling can be used with most attachment hardware.
i recommend quick detach hardware for the butt if you're using a magpul stock

>>33616040
*by "u-shaped portion" im referring to the stock, not the trigger assembly...just in case

>>33603269
Don't get yourself down, mate. Your shotgun looks fantastic, and I would DEF fuqs wit

>>33615041
i imagine the sleeve flying off after a string of quick shots
well i guess i cant blame him for 'accessorizing'

>>33601140
I like that foregrip with the original stock

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>ywn legally own an AA12 as a civilian

>>33603829
Thanks for mentioning this. Probably gonna see about having a gunsmith ream the chamber for modern 2 3/4" shells and evidently they lengthen the forcing cone too? those two together seem to be popular things to have done to 1897s, hopefully not too sacreligious
>>33604644
I believe it's a takedown, but I didn't want to fuck with it too much in the store.

>>33608099
what is the holder to the front called? not just the brand, but is it a certain kind?

>>33616848
Stop it anon, it might happen one day

>>33618410
Most people call them a match saver. Most match savers are only single shell, though.

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my clay buster

Why are there so few high quality pump guns?
In SxS or O/U, shit goes retarded pretty quickly. From cheap shit to insanely expensive.

But for pumps? Very few worthwhile choices if you strive for higher quality things in life. Very little diversity too.

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>>33618944
That'll be the day

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>>33620511
more pics?

>>33620703
agreed

>>33602748
>>33616040
blowing up scrap lumber is fun

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>>33609494
Anyone?

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bamp with toilet gun

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>>33601787
:D

>>33626296
Holy shit I'm not the only one with a toilet shotgun. Why don't more people do this?

>>33623827
Does the 120 have screw in chokes? Is it rated for steel? Are either of those things important for your use? Those are the major utilitarian differences between old and new guns, generally.

>>33626667
Just ask Quentin Tarantino. The bathroom is when you're most vulnerable.

A toilet gun is just good tactics.

>>33626667
most people aren't spergs

>>33612636
SELL IT TO ME!!!

Name your price.

>>33626296
>>33626667
Because some of us pride ourselves in living like responsible, successful people who appreciate fine home refinishing.

Toilet boy there has a Home Depot special. I know because that's what I put in my degenerate tenant's apartments. They'll break it anyone so we keeps it cheap and low end.

>>33626815
Do burglars in your area wait until you're done showering?

>>33626790
Fucking nonsense.

"you're most vulnerable" to having a heart attack, not being shot by two hitmen.

>>33608865
The pain is weakness leaving your body.

>>33627032
We're not talking about chances here, we're talking about being objectively in a compromised position.
Being naked in the shower or taking a shit is literally being at your most vulnerable.

>>33626999
>responsible, successful people who appreciate fine home refinishing.

Simple, put a Beretta Silver Pidgeon in your bathroom.

>>33607977
They look freaking cool desu. Would totally own one if I could.

>>33607977
Honestly jelly of that Aussie shotgun

Wish we would start importing them

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>>33601787
Mah nigga

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>>33620511
Pretty. We don't get enough clay duster love in these threads. Here's mine.

A LGS is selling A400 Xcels (ones with the blue receiver) new for $1,340. They retail for $1600+. Should I go for it?

Shot one a couple weeks ago and absolutely loved it.

Really leaning towards getting it, I shoot 150+ rounds/week now through pic related and it kind of worries me putting that many rounds through a gun that would be difficult to replace.

>>33603079
do u have a photo with your chest rig on?

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>>33601869
>that DYEL forarm

>>33608689
Neat I want.

why is 4 gauge not considered a realistic option when you could use it to shoot both shells and 25mm grenades?

>>33601140
any recommendations on a first over under? i want to try trap

>>33628514
Do you hate your shoulders?

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Any thoughts on birdshead grip shotguns? Are they meme-tier? Is there a better option?

>I am not allowed a handgun

I work outside in deep wilderness and I'm looking for a catch-all defensive option that is easy to transport.

A couple weeks ago a hiker was shot in the same area that I work (he confronted car thieves targeting parked cars at the trailhead and it didn't end well), and I see bear on a regular basis. Those are my two main concerns.

>>33628591
yes

>>33628619

I'm thinking buckshot's not enough for bear.

>>33628619
They're not as difficult to shoot as the memes say, but you'd still be better off with one that has a stock unless a stock is just not at all an option for you.

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>>33628619
Pistol grip shotguns are for hot chicks in movies

>>33628636
I already have a Mossberg 500 with an 18.5" barrel and the shorter youth stock (what I am currently carrying), but I'm finding it's still too large to easily throw (or strap to) my pack. This means it just gets left in the truck most of the time in favour of bear spray.

But I'm not super worried about bear to be honest. Mostly worried about thieves or stumbling upon a grow-op (this has happened once before). I just figure if I'm going to carry a gun it might as well be capable of stopping bears too.

I've also looked at folding things like the Sub-2000 but it just seems like a shitty pistol.

>>33628619
>>33628685
have you considered folding stocks?

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>>33611104
Shit I'm late. It's a Savage 69RXL. My stepdad carried it on watch in the Navy. I bought it from him. It's a solid gun. Got it for $130.

>>33627056
Sure... an earthquake can happen. A North Korean Nuke can drop, plus over 9000 other things can happen as well.

You want to live your fucking life in fear? Put your belt and CCW on while you shower, bro... you autistic fuck

Jesus Christ.

>>33603068
Ay that looks sexy. I'm going to try and dye some of mine. What shade did you use?

>>33628954
Being prepared=/=being in fear

Do you even realize where you are right now?

>>33620367
thanks. i want to get a side by side. was thinking of having a 2 shell holder made out of leather that i could attach somewhere in front of the action. not sure how i could do it to where it wouldnt block the bead though

>tfw badly want the most obnoxious skeet gun possible

what's wrong with me

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>>33628657
The hottest part

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Is the Mossberg 930 a good first shotgun?

I've seen videos of the action of it, and it looks pretty damn sweet.

Right now it's 380 dollars on gunbuyer.

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>>33606536
Nice Vepr.
>I know the stock doesn't fold all the way with that drum in though.

Here's mine.

>>33628657
Quite frankly, THIS is the only reason to see that fucking movie. Of course, I have to mute out the southern accent

>>33629791
what in tarnation. that was not caused by recoil.

>>33629803
If you want a semi, it would be the one I'd recommend. I got one for clay shooting, and when I upgraded to an O/U I put an 18" barrel on it.

Great gun, in my experience.