Syria Tomahawk Attack

>>33596316
23 missiles hit the airbase
44 structures(incl.small ammo depots)

>>33596316
Russhits lie so much they can't keep track.

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>>33596326

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>>33596334

>"Hurr durr, Iraq! See? That totally proves that the Russian gov. never lies."

>>33596387
>Lying is the same as not telling the truth
You're too young for politics kiddo

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>>33596334
Lol

>>33596387
>What is difference between setting up a fire and running with matches in a house that is already burning?

>>33596387
Ha any one have the pic of RT saying the right sector was crucifying babies?

>>33596316
It's amazing how many shills russia got working on pushing the 23 missiles lie over in /pol/.
There are like a dozen threads about it every day since the attack. Did russia really get that booty blasted over one syrian air base getting stomped?

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>>33596509

Of course.

>>33596526
>How dare they can do what we're doing since 1953?

>>33596316
They hit a lot of the taxiways infront of the aircraft shelters. Fragmentation must have damaged the planes inside.

They also did direct hits on bunker roofs and penetrated through.

It's possible that 44 structures, including fuel, ammo and other depots were damaged / destroyed with only 23 missiles.

I mean, they must have assumed that there would be some intercepts, so they struck with a large enough salvo that enough got through.

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>>33596500
No one said that "There's no russian produced hardware in donbass"

>>33596537
Especially if you have relatively thin-skinned liquid containers or storages clustered together, why waste a HE warhead on all of them when you can fire 2-3 ones in the middle with fragmentation wh's.

1-2 get intercepted and one does the job.

Notice how Russians state 23 missiles only hit but they have zero pictures of failed Tomahawks. Really makes you think.

>>33596537

>I mean, they must have assumed that there would be some intercepts, so they struck with a large enough salvo that enough got through.

But the Russian narrative isn't that the missiles were shot down. Their narrative is that the missiles circumvented the air defences. So they're saying that they just simply failed on their own.

>"Aytech Bizhev, the former deputy commander-in-chief of the Russian Air Force, told Interfax that the "flight path was set to bypass our missile-defense system so that they would not enter our strike range. The Americans are also not idiots."

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>>33596558
Are you retarded?

>>33596580
Are you retarded?

>>33596316
Guys, this a pretty old tactic by the russians and you can see it almost around everything they dont like. Multiple different stories get circulated so no one who isnt looking really deep into it is getting confused and dont know what to think of it in the end, because of all the stories he heard. We had this on almost all stuff in the ukraine crisis and we also could see it multiple times about syrian stuff.

>>33596316
>So are the Russians now themselves admitting that what the Russian MOD stated about only 23 of 59 missiles hitting the airbase was bullshit?

Well they were going to have to eventually.

>>33596326
Even when I agree with you, I still hate you.

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>>33596316
>Believing Russian reports on losses in the first place.
>Believing Russia has moved beyond their Soviet era media censoring.
You don't think the Russians would just do that do you? Just go on the internet and lie?

>>33596548
Except the Russians

>>33597327
>tfw everything the Russian MoD has ever said on the internet was one big lie being pushed to austists who would believe them and spread it

>>33596780
Most people are lazy as hell and don't look to deep into the truth of situations so this is sadly effective.
>"Oh well I thought I heard something about it on the news or something anyway want to watch Big Bang Theory?"

>>33596322
Russian math everyone.

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So the current Russian narrative is that 14-20 Su-22s are now 6 MiG-23s?

Where are the proofs?

>>33597443
No,no,no. This is an entire different level of that, the idea is not to spin one wrong story to it, but so many that the truth simply gets under or indistinguishable from all the others.

Its like was in the ukraine crisis:
Ukraine version:
>BUK in rebel held territory shot down MH17

Russian versions:
>Ukraine SU-25 shot it down with auto cannon and only with that
>Ukraine SU-25 shot it down with AA missle and only with that
>Ukraine SU-25 shot it down with AA missle AND auto cannon
>Ukraine Mig-29 shot it down
>It was shot down from an ukraine BUK from their territory
>It was shot down from an ukraine BUK that sneaked into rebel territory
>It was shot down from an ukraine BUK that was moved right to the southern front line
>...

>>33597641
How well i remember that bullshit, best part how you would have 2 vatniks in one thread, both with another version of the story, attacking everyone saying otherwise, but never were arguing against each other. It was just so fucking surreal it hurt.

>>33596780
Yep. Maskirovka all the way to that Syrian pipeline.
But everyone else is also doing it. So....don't believe your lying eyes I guess?

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>>33597721
>But everyone else is also doing it.
Not to that amount and not taking it into account is rather stupid and dangerous.
Stories spun around the attack on the airbase from the russian side:
>only a small part of Tomahawk hit because they are so shit
>only a small part of Tomahawk hit because they got shot down by the russian air defense
>the attack did little damage to the airbase and it is operating again
>at the same time it was a blow that crippled the SAA, ISIS is taking direct advantage of it and christian minorities in syria are in direct danger of that
>the Tomahawk werent able to destroy the landing strip or it was repaired quickly
>the Tomahawk only did little damage because of russian EW fucking with the Tomahawks
>...

As a side note, this strike implies that Burkes carry 30 Tomahawks in their standard loadout.

>>33597796
Never thought that the Burkes were such sluts.

>>33596566
>So they're saying that they just simply failed on their own

So, after bombarding Irak daily with those here they just simply fail? and with a near 50% rate?

It still smells fishy, but I haven't heard of any response from the US to that either.

>>33597796

It can carry up to 56, would it be so weird to think that it was specially fitted for the task?

>>33598324
>It still smells fishy, but I haven't heard of any response from the US to that either.
That's because the US doesn't waste its time refuting Russian propaganda directly, because if we did, there wouldn't be time to do anything else.

>>33598324
But we have. Confirmed 58 hits, one in the drink, and one failure to launch.

>>33598378
>Confirmed 58 hits
>Burgers believe in this

>>33598378
Any detailed damage reports? All I've seen is
>Israelis claim 14 Su-22s destroyed
>US claim 20 Su-22s destroyed
>Ever-reliable slav media claiming 6 MiG-23s that totally weren't working anyways destroyed

>>33598398
>6 MiG-23s that totally weren't working anyways
So basically regular MiGs ?

>>33598397
>tested technology suddenly stops working because Russia stronk

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>>33598403
>So basically regular MiGs ?

>>33598398
Could be 14 SU-22s and 6 mig-23s... I mean that'd add up to 20 planes, and if the presser only said planes someone could interpret that to mean 20 planes of a single type....

I mean PIOs ain't the smartest guys in the forces, they're just mouthpieces set to regurgitate information sets and not specifics.

>>33596566
>"flight path was set to bypass our missile-defense system so that they would not enter our strike range. The Americans are also not idiots."

how did they bypass the defenses at the air base?

>>33598479
>how did they bypass the defenses at the air base?
By causing them to explode.

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>>33598418
>>>tested technology suddenly stops working because Russia stronk
>>33598431
>>>So basically regular MiGs ?

>>33598479
>how did they bypass the defenses at the air base?
What they probably mean is
>Russians ignored missiles when they saw them because they had a heads-up
>Missiles flew around known air defenses
Which would leave the missiles exposed only to local Syrian air defenses at the base as they made their attack. And as we all know, the Syrians are pants-on-head retarded when it comes to air defense.

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>>33598397
It was confirmed by a neutral third party, 44 targets hit, several got pasted twice like the double aircraft shelters.
What one wonders is how the relations between russia and Assad is after this.
Russias GF was raped by the US and russia just sat there and watched like the good cucks they are.

>>33598583
>Hurrr durr RT is a lie here's solid proof from FOX
*shows shitty image with yellow circles aka """""""targets""""""""*
Russia is cucked as average american hurrr

>>33598620
Are you aware the satellite companies analyzed the high res images before they gave them to the news? You must be a retard that thinks some jpeg they give out is what they looked at.

>>33598344
We have no idea what their loadout was, but the timeframe also doesn't allow a custom load just for that strike.

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>>33596558
Some Syrians woke up with many of these in their backyards, it wasn't there before.

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>>33598620
It was a third party who supplied the photos to FOX.
Note that unlike the cucked russia, the US has satellite imagery to support its claims.
All cucked russia got is close up photos of a few undamaged shelters and shills on /pol/.
It is safe to claim that cucked russia will never release their own sat photos as it would expose their desperate attempt at damage control.

>>33598750

I wish those mother fuckers had Ebay. I want some scrap from the strike. It would be an awesome paperweight.

>>33598750
First image isn't even a TLAM, you retard.

>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3447933/Two-hospitals-school-destroyed-air-strikes-Syria-killing-three-children-11-Turkey-accuses-Russia-acting-like-terrorist-organisation.html
>Feb 2016

>>33598750
>things that never happened but still get posted endlessly by idiots

>>33598750
>>33598750
>grid fins
That's a russian missile you mong.
The only thing USA got with those are the MOAB.
Russia sticks them on everything. Probably the usual horrendous russian quality control that struck while the missiles where on their way to destroy yet another hospital.

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>>33598750
>grid fins
fucking musk...

>>33598750
After getting your shit handed to you, tell us where you got this and why you thought you should post it here so other idiots can learn from your error.

>>33598929
topkek

>>33598620
Weak effort. Long shift at the shill desk?

>>33598750
I like the way these pics never include any of the stencils or graphics or P/Ns or NSNs that the US puts on every piece of military hardware, subassembly, and component. Anything bigger than a Skilcraft pen is gonna have an NSN on it somewhere.

>>33598750
Is that an R-77?

>>33596519
Yes, it proves how worthless Russia is as an ally. The Russofail forces can't project real military power outside their own borders. Look at the ships breaking down, dud rate of ordnance, and the number of crashed planes not fired upon.

People probably laugh out loud when a Russian diplomat suggests a mutual defense pact.

Even the Indians have told the Russians to fuck off at this point.

>>33599383
Different grids.

>>33599513
What is it then? I'm looking all over for grid-fin missiles and all I can find that has that fin layout like in the pic is an R-77

>>33599879
Maybe SS-21?

>>33596588
Is he retarded?

>>33599498
nice b8 m8.

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>>33598750
>vatnik claims American missiles are shit and just fell out of the sky into some random Syrian's backyard
>posts a picture of a Russian missile as proofs
You can't make this shit up

>>33597523
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXKj01LaLUc
>1:23
That's totally a MiG-23, dude.

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>>33597793
>That gif
>TFW you learn that "whataboutism" isn't just some shitty arguments that Russophiles use to justify Russia raping their neighbors daily, but actually has been the prime doctrine of Soviet propaganda for decades.
>TFW Russophiles argue that invasion of Ukraine is justified because US annexed Hawaii 200 years ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

why were the runways deliberately avoided? I mean if you serious about this attack at all you would at least disabled the runways

The foolishness isn't in assuming that the Russians are lying bastards. That's a given. The foolishness lies in thinking for even one moment that the other countries are any different.

- Captain Obvious

>>33600056
It's not bait.

>>33600432
Probably a combination of deliberately limiting the strike to send a message and it not being worth the effort. Runways can be repaired quickly, but you can't un-bomb an aircraft.

>>33600432

Fairly easy to fill in craters with common heavy machinery, would be my guess. Fuel, munitions and the air frames operating from the facility are more costly and difficult to replace.

>>33598750
That's not even an American missile

>>33600233
I meant 1:13
Fuck

>>33600035
Are they retarded

>>33600432
All air forces train and prep to deal with damaged runways. No way to have meaningful long term impact. Tomahawks can not crater to a significant degree.

These are not 100ton passenger aircraft. These are small military planes designed to take of from Siberian rural airstrips in winter. In some cases all you have to do to repair the runway is throw some dirt in the hole.

>>33600432
>Using a $1.5 million missile to put potholes in a glorified road
Cratering a runway is a valuable tactic for suppressing enemy response in preparation for further attacks, but as a strategic punitive measure it's an empty gesture.

>>33596566
Considering that the tomahawk was well within range of nearby Russian systems, not to mention systems on station at the base itself. I have some trouble buying that story.

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>>33600399

Topkek, those Russians really are a treasure trove for endless comedy.

>>33596326
Kill yourself Saracen.

>>33596956
that's a nice Visha anon

>>33600432
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diX3x6ffvSA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Rvw6mkF0A

>>33600432
>destroying an easily repaired strip of concrete is more serious than permanently destroying aircraft/fuel/munitions/vehicles/workshops

>>33600586
Even better - they've got their own specific flavor of whataboutism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes

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>>33599879
give that man a cookie
>>33598750
>>33599973
picture related is from
https://www.quora.com/Are-grid-fins-used-in-any-current-rocket-models-other-than-the-Falcon-9
>This is a booster of a Tochka ballistic tactical missile
Tochka=OTR-21 Tochka=SS-21 Scarab(NATO naming)
looks about the same as i looked quickly over it

>>33600732
the cookie actually was for >>33599973

>>33596316
im still really disapointed he didnt launch them on april 1st...

the absolute confusion that would have caused lmfao everyone would have thought it was a joke.

>>33596322
these are the same people who

>targets:
>one building, 3rd floor, small room
>4 terrorists
>10 hostages

>mission:
save hostages, neutralize threat.


>collateral damage
>87 people killed
>4 buildings damaged
>one bridge demolished
>no hastages survived
>FSB has no comment

>>33600399
>When Russians point at our faults it's "whataboutism"
Bitch, please.
>invasion of Ukraine is justified
What "invasion of Ukraine"? Even Ukrainian generals admit they don't fight against regular Russian army.

>>33600798
I feel generous and give you a (you), you can now beg for more if you want.

>>33600816
Cry more.

>>33600798
>Denying invasion of Ukraine by Russian forces
>April 10
>2017
Ugh, update your script comrade. The new speaking point is: Russian forces are there to protect ethno Russian from Ukrainian Nazis.

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hey /k/, riddle me this:
If Assad "bombed that village with sarin from that airfield".

And US retaliated by striking at the airfield.

What was the purpose of the strike?

If the purpose was to prevent further chemical attacks, you could target the chemical weapon stockpile. But that was never mentioned among the targets, the goals, or the successful outcomes of tomahawk strike.

Is the implication that airfield had enough ordnance for exactly one Su-22 sortie with sarin, but not more? I.e., the gas was all used at the moment of the strike?

If, for example, US intelligence was not able to pinpoint the chem weapons cache - that would mean, that to prevent further attacks you need to either destroy all capable aircraft, or render airfield inoperable - otherwise, Assad could strike with chemical weapons again on the very next day. But neither the airfield, nor the entirety of aircraft, were destroyed. Next Su-22 CAS mission was launched the morning after.

To make sense, the official version should go something like this "There's still chemical weapons in that base, or it was destroyed in the attack, but the mission was not to take this capability away from Assad - it was to give him a warning not to use chemical weapons any more."

It's a deal with a dictator then, isn't it?

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>>33600841
>Brainlessly repeating CNN narrative about "invasion of Ukraine by Russian forces"
Only countries that can point at Ukraine on the map get to speak.

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>>33600841
This is like step 6 that is still missing from this picutre: Start at 1 again after some time, maybe you get away with it this time.

>>33600849
>What was the purpose of the strike?
If someone tries this shit again there will be consequences for SAA.

>If the purpose was to prevent further chemical attacks, you could target the chemical weapon stockpile. But that was never mentioned among the targets, the goals, or the successful outcomes of tomahawk strike.
Its about delivering the message that, if someone is stupid enough to try this again, they will get shit on again, doesnt have to be exactly the guy who is reponsible, but there will be a lot of trouble again.

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>>33600904
Holy fuck the irony is killing me.

I can't breathe.

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>>33600922
He probaly aint even getting it.

>>33600698
Nowadays the average vatnik just skips the lynching part to call you a negro.

>>33600849

>What was the purpose of the strike?
The purpose was to dissuade government forces from using chem weapons again.

>If the purpose was to prevent further chemical attacks, you could target the chemical weapon stockpile.
That is madness, you could cause a major accidental release.

To think of it, this is really comedy gold: >>33600904
>hurr durr you believing western media
>post below >>33600916 not even answering to the post
>part of step 1 in picture of that post: hurr durr you believing western media
Vatniks are as retarded as they are repetive, maybe has something to do with the fact they cant think for themself and just parrot other narritives and "arguements".

>>33600916

>If someone tries this shit again there will be consequences for SAA.
>Its about delivering the message that, if someone
Are we still pretending the premise to this is retribution? This requires a very credible evidence on the perpetrator, this "someone" you mention.

If the purpose was to prevent further attacks, then an educated guess would do. But not if the idea was to have a metaphorical conversation with a dictator.

>>33600916
>Muh memes
American "argument".
>If terrorists will use gas again we will again bomb people fighting these terrorists
Take that ISIS!
>>33600922
>>33600931
>Amerilard damage control
It's okay, I'll wait till you surf your state propaganda for a justification.

>>33600963
>That is madness, you could cause a major accidental release.
Isn't this literally the russian version of things?

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>>33600981
>I'll wait till you surf your state propaganda for a justification.
The irony never seems to stop.

>>33600970
Comedy gold is how even an Ukrainian general admits they do not fight against regular Russian troops, but a brainless fatnik bot thinks he knows better from what the TV told him, yet still being unable to point at Ukraine on the map.

>>33600998
No, russian version is
>and then things got worse
is also their unofficial state motto.

>>33601008
That's because amerishits are an eternal source of it.

>>33600981

>Take that ISIS!

ISIS? When did ISIS arrive in northern Hama? Are you saying the attack in Khan Shaykhun was an ISIS attack?

>>33601010
>>33600981
>fatnik
Armatard, are you desperate for (you) again? Nobody else wants to talk to you? Still your life going in horrible depressive cycles of being unwanted by everybody and the only way to get attention from others is by embaressing yourself in front of everybody?

>>33601022

I see no difference, except for distance of few dozen miles.

>>33600698
Top. Fucking. Kek.

>>33600798
You best be retarding to be pretended...

>>33601048
No, mate, they're a different colour on the map, so totally not ISIS. Stay tuned.
>>33601055
>The broken fatnik damage control
Cry more.

>>33600522
Also, you only really take out runways right before an invasion.

>>33601101
You better stop watching CNN.

From former threads:
>READ THIS:
>This guy right here >>33601113 is the Armatard, idiot beyond repair, vatnik to the bones, annoyance for everyone, even the other vatniks doesnt side with him, after he started spreging out again. He will constantly declare himself winner of the discussion despite no one agreeing, he will continuously switch between insulting, he thinks it is banter, and demanding an logical arguement. Errors doesnt count for him, but every minor thing he nitpicks about changes of course everything, while he cant say something without being vague. He is constantly fucking up threads about russian stuff or tries to smear other nations, he cant stop screaming Fatnik all day long, there are people who think every second Fatnik posted on /k/ is actually made by him and given how hard he tries at everything they are probaly right especially it seems to align with his posting time. Also he always has to be right, no matter how non revelant the things he says are to the threads or discussions, if you said something he doesnt like, he will spend the next hours baiting you and trying to find something where you are wrong on. This guy simply needs psychological medical attention, but instead he chooses to shitpost on the internet, since he cant get attention otherwise. People already complained about him from other subboards.

And another:
>Armatard
>Who?
-Vatnik like you
-Talks like you
-Doesnt really answered questions like you
-Is overly vague like you
-Doesnt cared no one agreed with him or supported what he said like you
-Still said that his claims are accepted everywhere like you
-Wanted to tell us that the Armata is smaller than M1A2
-Spammed it months long, attacked everyone stating otherwise, but got BTFO in the end
-Tried to talk himself out of stuff like you
-Disapeared magically after that
-People acting like him magically appear after that
-Those people of course never where him
-Those people magically also used same phrases like him

>>33601142
Even more:
>A favorite of who I suspect to be the same vatnik was to claim that the S-400 at a range of 400km can detect and distinguish the MALD-J from real targets despite any and all jamming and even distinguish between MALD-J and guided munitions despite both being the same physical size.
>When being prompted for explanation of such outlandish claims the respone always ended up at
>>MALD-J
>>defeating anything other than rusty SA-2s
>being spammed as a response.
>"This fatnik is of broken" was also a reoccurring phrase.
>When actually trying to debate, the vatnik refused to meet any question asked and always shifted focus or danced around with vauge and unclear responses coupled with faulty logic and outright falsehoods.
>If its not the same guy we're dealing with here it must be someone who does a is a carbon copy of him and must be a guy on the same night shift at the web brigade as it is like 3am in russia now, the same time as the MALD-J vatnik went to work.

And more
>You are answering to the Armatard, he will defend everything russian, no matter how retarded it is and if you want to know what having a brain tumor feels like, have a discussion with him over a longer period. Even the other russboos dont side with him, when he is going full mental again.

>>33601155
It never seems to stop with him:
>so you know what is going on; you are most likely talking to the armatard, a vatnik of the worst kind, dont expect much logic, understanding or explaining from him, he doesnt give a fuck he is wrong, he just twists realitiy, ignores it and nitpicks on some irrelevant thing you said instead and in the end when he managed to bring up everyone against him in a thread and even other vatniks dont support anything he says anymore, he just declares it doesnt matter no one is on his side. someone wrote more info about him in the last thread he fucked up with his pressence:

>those retard comebacks he starts to repeat endlessly are a pretty common thing in him. also he is probaly behind 50% of times when someone posts the word fatnik, it is pretty dull

>>totaly not a vatnik, but fitting opinions
>>posting time
>>clingy try to get his comfy zone discussion going
>>strange conecting of different situations
>Could be the Armatard, but generally he is a bit more retarded, on the other hand he got BTFO multiple times and maybe tries it with a not so aggressive approach.

>Are you that Armatard? That ignorant stupidity, the clingy need to be "right", the constant need of sidestepping so it looks like you are right.

>>33601142
>>33601155
>The broken fatnik has engaged the random copypaste wipe mode again
The eternal fantik's affliction.

>>33601172
Holy shit, the amount of stuff you find in the archives is just huge:
>>That obvious sameposting, that obvious goalshifting, that inability to answer to the Armatard question, that obvious 'No! You!' response.
>So that everyone gets this: This is a known vatnik retard, so dont waste your time with him, he craves the attention, because no one would otherwise talk to him. To get an idea how bad it is: At the end of an average Armatard plagued thread even the other vatniks dont support him in any way anymore.

>>ARMATARD DETECTED
>He is a vatnik, who spergs out this way regulary, defends everything russian and is the reason why russians and their friend have such a bad reputation here.

>Is that you Armatard? That desperate nitpicking, that vatnik logic, the unability to accept that you are wrong, total ignorance no one is on your side, posting time,...
It all fits.

>>that picture
>>fatniks
>Armatard is visiting us again.

>Using fatnik, generally urge to rewrite what happens on k and reality, high nose arrogant attitude, bit earlier then his standard posting time, but the reek of Armatard coming from him is kinda obvious.

Thats aboutwhat i could found with a quick search, there is probaly more, but i think everyone gets, what this guy is about.

>>33601192
Jesus Christ he's got you on the ropes man.

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>>33600849
>what was the purpose
probably this

>>33601172
>>33601210
>Poor fatnik is on the verge of losing it
Does your therapist know you've been posting nonsensical copypaste on /k again?

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>>33601237
Is this what CNN has been telling you lately?

>>33601256
you mean cyrylshit pictures with no further explaination? nah, thats rather russboo material.

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>>33601271
No, I mean posting bullshit while having no idea of the subject whatsoever. It's a general purpose Soviet container, in this case with cluster munitions, which is literally written on it.

>>33601271

It's cluster munitions, you retarded shit.

Not chemical weapons
>not knowing his chemical weapons
the fuck are you even doing here

fatniks btfo

Still no images of failed tomahawks. I mean 36 of them supposedly fail so it would be fairly easy to snap the wreckage. Even Serbs managed to take a picture of one. Yes, Russians really are that dumb.

vatniks btfo

>>33601401
>Wtf is a "Mediterranean Sea"?
I'm not even defending the point of failed Tomahawks, but your narrative is fucking imbecilic nevertheless.

fatniks btfo

>>33601325
Or you could be in the binary state of those being CW containers that has been emptied in 2013 and them being used for cluster ammunition, which happily coexisted in the threads before, vatnik doublethink par excellance.

Fact is those are general purpose containers, the holes on the ones at the left >>33601237 let people believe they are (former) CW containers, which has been drained of their liquid. The local vatniks even said those are specificly the ones emptied in 2013, while they simply cant know this. Furthermore if you show one container with an tag for cluster ammunition, that doesnt show that all those are this type. It can be, it is definitely a good chance they are of similar type, but a picture from a side who has heavy interest in denying any CW containers there, will hardy show us the ones other than the type they want us to show. Last but not least, it is the based that is said to have started the CW attacks, which makes them revelant.

>>33601401
Shhhh, dont talk about those, the idea is to spin one story after another and the second people start coming up with reasonable doubt, you just bring the next story.

>>33596316
kek, you know dining facility was like the lowest priority on that list and they probably debated it the longest

>"itll fucking cost us a million dollar missile! maybe two!"
>"but think how pissed off the soldiers will be when they have to squat outside or eat on turned over buckets in the cold wind"
>"kek lets just do it for the giggles"
>"sir, it will cost approximately $2 million dollars and the most damage we will cause will be destroying week old goat feet in the refrigerator and some leftover pots of rice"
>"I DONT GIVE A DAMN WHAT IT COSTS! I WANT THOSE FAGGOTS PICKING SAND AND DUST OUT OF THEIR YOGURT FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR"

>>33601434
>errr they got shot down by russian AA
>errr they got jammed by russian EW
>errr they crashed all over syria
>errr they crashed into the mediteran see
>....

>>33601434
All 36 missiles fell into the Mediterranean? Are you sure youre not an imbecile? That's mighty convenient for vatniks who cant seem to produce a single evident of a failed tomahawk.

vatniks btfo

vatniks btfo

>>33600432
why did they not decide to waste a million dollar missile to make a 20 foot crater that could be patched up in an hour with 4 men working and about $7 dollars of concrete?

>>33601256
>>33601325
And then you realize the reason chemical weapons were used is because a container of them was mixed in with cluster munitions, and the Syrian ground crews didn't know the difference.

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>>33601444
Are you blind or just a fatnik?

>>33601482
This would be hilarious. I really want this to have been the reason.

>>33601482
Huh I never thought of it that way. The Syrians are definitely incompetent enough to pull something like that.

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Since when has /k/ started buying into the bullshit propagated by the western media? People here used to look at things like this objectively, not parrot CNN headlines. What the fuck happened?

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Since when has /k/ started buying into the bullshit propagated by the Russian media? People here used to look at things like this objectively, not parrot RT headlines. What the fuck happened?

>>33601487

theres something entirely different written on the container you fool

>>33601460
>errr they got shot down by russian AA
>errr they got jammed by russian EW
No one ever claimed that, imbecile.
>>33601466
>I'm not even defending the point of failed Tomahawks

>>33601482
i already made a thread on /pol/ speculating that. i wouldnt put it past the retarded arabs to fucking not read the faded out labels on 30 year old soviet era black market chem weapons bought from other middle eastern dictators on the black market

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Since when has /k/ started buying into the bullshit propagated by the Jewish media? People here used to look at things like this objectively, not parrot Jewish Press headlines. What the fuck happened?

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>>33601533
No, it is not, fatnik. I love it how fatniks go blind then something does not fit or falls out of a daily dose of CNN narrative they got from evening news.

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>>33601567

>posting obscure moonrunes
>supposed to be an argument

lol wtf?

calm your autism

>>33601537
>I'm not even defending the point of failed Tomahawks
Requoting your retarded self doesn't make your point any more asinine. Suggesting that the Mediterranean is in any way relevant in hiding 36 missiles from vatniks is stupid because fucking serbs were fired in the Mediterranean too yet they still captured one. Russian propaganda is for children or retards.

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>>33601482
And then you realise unitedstatian terrorist allies used chemical weapons and the US in deep in damage control, throwing more and more desperate bullshit on the internet.

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>>33601567

>>33601600

who cares

"collateral damage is normal".

That's what I always tell the normies

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>>33601585
>Hurr durr look at me I'm a retarded fatnik that goes blind as soon as something contradicts unitedstatian state propaganda
Like a pottery.

>>33601610
Thank you, I definitely remember saving the HR version, but couldn't find it.

>>33601487
you are blind and forgetful, not only is the hole way smaller than the one was talked about, but also even the vatniks said those are CW containers and non of them objected, but of course were emptied in 2013. how could they know?

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>>33601525

so are we ever going to get pictures of the damage or are the syrians too embarrassed to post that shit on social media

>>33601525
>Assad is the bad guy
>The US isn't supporting terrorist organizations
>The Russians only bomb hospitals
>The US never has collateral damage

I'm an American, I live in Virginia, but I'm not so naive to think that the US foreign policy is remotely competent or intelligent. I'm also not so naive in thinking that Western media sources are inherently unbiased. The US has been looking to take down Assad for a long time. First we overthrow Saddam, then Qaddafi in Libya, and now we're trying to plunge Syria into a permanent hotbed for international terrorism by eliminating the Syrian government. The rebels have no chance of putting together a stable government, it will only devolve into infighting. Just like in Libya, the "government" will be powerless and the cities will remain warzones under the control of one faction or another. Without an occupying force to keep things under control, there will not be order. Look at Iraq. By 2008 we had the situation under control for the most part. The government begrudgingly got along, and it looked like it might work out after all. Then we pulled out and bam, same old bullshit. The Shia cracked down on the Sunnis, and ISIL rolled right into northwestern Iraq and were welcomed with open arms.

TLDR: Fuck you. You are cancer and have no knowledge of geopolitics or history.

>>33601638
>guy, guys loooooook
>one containers has thaaaaat number on it
>that means all containers on the base have thhaaaat number
>the picture made by someone who clearly doesnt want us to know about any chemical weapons at the base totaly proofs it
You could not stop sperging out about this one when it would be the other way round.

>>33601652
>Blind fatnik damage control projections
It is the same hole and literally the same markings.
>the vatniks said those are CW containers
Probably never even happened, lol. Poor fatnik, getting so BTFO, will he ever recover? I bet that therapist bill will be huge.

>>33600520
Yes.

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>>33601672
I'm also from Virginia

>implying Russian foreign policy isn't infinitely worse
>implying Qaddafi getting unseated wasn't a good use of taxpayer dollars
>implying the strikes in Syria are intended to unseat Assad and not simply to punish him for his violation of the Chemical Weapons Convention
>implying "blame America for everything" is a coherent or useful understanding of international affairs

To Maryland with you.

>>33601525
We always had a small vatnik population here, but since the ukraine conflict they gone into propaganda overdrive. That they made /pol/ their useful idiot didnt helped either, they are using our middle east thread as their bridgehead to extend their /sg/ thread from over there with all the opinions and bullshit that comes from there.

>>33601700
>Fatnik grasping at straws intensifies
It's fine, just call your therapist.

>>33601708
it is impressive how the posts you whined so much about, describe you so perfectly. you serious have some obvious brain damage.

>>33601743
We don't need any more idiots over here. We're full.

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>>33601764
>N-no! U!
Looks like my job here is done.

>>33601762
Are you projecting again? Are you still not noticing how no one supports you ever? And you are talking about damage control and therapists, while you cant stop repeating all the same patterns every time. The irony.

>>33601802
did we hit a nerve with that? looks like it.

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>>33601808
>>33601841
>Got BTFO with proofs
>Projects his butthurt on others
You better start saving some money for your therapist appointment.

>>33601743
That is simplistic as fuck, and is ignoring everything that the administration has been saying in the last few days. Today, Tillerson and Haley said that there was no future of peace in Syria with Assad in power. Fact. I voted for Trump, I thought he would be different. Instead he's buying into the bullshit and his administration is sounding like all the old ones. There is no empirical evidence that the Syrian government orchestrated a chemical attack. They said the same shit back in 2013 and when an investigation was conducted they found that it wasn't the Syrian government. That was the fucking UN.

And how in the fuck was removing Qaddafi a good decision? What did that accomplish? What goal? It accomplished fucking nothing. We spent a bunch of money on sorties and missiles and we got absolutely nothing out of it. All that came of it is a now failed state that is a fucking warzone.

I'm not saying that Russian foreign policy is the answer. They're interested in furthering their economy, their military, their country. I understand that. However, a broken clock is right twice a day, and in this case I think supporting Assad is the only real decision. I'm not saying we should bend over take Putin's dick up the tailpipe, I'm saying that we need to look at the situation realistically, and look for realistic solutions.

>>33601808
A bit more and the Armatard will keep repeating the same phrase over and over again. And let us not forget how he likes to declare a victory in the end.

>>33601866
>They said the same shit back in 2013 and when an investigation was conducted they found that it wasn't the Syrian government

doubt.jpg

>What did that accomplish? What goal?

It killed somebody who fucked with us.

We can't be everywhere all the time, so other world leaders need to understand that if they screw with the US, they may be killed, even decades after the fact.

If we let people fuck with us and get away with it, the little cocksuckers will pour out of the woodwork to give us the old death by a thousand cuts.

>I think supporting Assad is the only real decision

You'd be wrong if you think that he can reunify the country and achieve status quo ante bellum.

The only solution is federalism and a negotiated settlement.

>>33601884
By the looks of it he just reached it.

>>33598750
First pic is a Tochka. Second pic is of a CBU-97

>>33601907
>doubt.jpg

It's a fucking fact. I don't care if you doubt it or not, Google that shit.

I really hope you're a troll and not actually this fucking stupid. Qaddafi was a nuisance, not a threat. There is a difference. Now we actually have a threat, an organization sponsoring terrorism all over the world. They've hit our country simply through efficient methods of propaganda, and we have haven't even faced the brunt of it. Look at France, ISIL has been fucking their shit up. Hundreds killed. Dozens of American citizens have been killed. We get on the news and take credit for taking back northwestern Iraq, but in the grand scheme of things our efforts have been minimal. The Iranians have been commanding Iraqi troops on the ground, and Iraq's Shia government is going to look to them to friendship before they look to us.

Do you even know what fucking federalism is? A democratic republic only works when the people fight for it to be so. If it's forced, it doesn't work. History has proven that time and again. If you think that's what the Syrian rebels are fighting for, than you're a fool. If the Syrian government falls, most of the rebel groups will be absorbed into ISIL or Nusra. They aren't looking to create a democratic republic, they're looking to create an Islamic theocracy.

>>33602006
Impressive, the americans delivered russian ballistic missles and whole CBU-97 bombs with their Tomahawks. Those Tomahawks sure are very good.

>>33600904
And how many Russians can point Nebraska on a map?

>>33600798
>What "invasion of Ukraine"? Even Ukrainian generals admit they don't fight against regular Russian army.

please stop being retarded

>>33596387
>NBC

Hey I know, I'll just eat up what other people analyze for me!

>>33602076
>Google that shit.

Okay

>the 7th Report of the Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Syrian Arab Republic, a different group than the UN fact-finding mission, stated the sarin used in the Ghouta attack bore the "same unique hallmarks" as the sarin used in the Khan al-Assal attack. The report, dated 12 February 2014, also indicated that the perpetrators likely had access to the chemical weapons stockpile of the Syrian military. These conclusions were based on the fact-finding mission's evidence, as the Commission of Inquiry did not conduct its own investigation of either chemical attack

>in 22 June, the head of the Commission of Inquiry, Paulo Pinheiro, said the UN could not determine who used chemical weapons in Syria based on evidence sent by the United States, Britain and France.[62]

>Now we actually have a threat, an organization sponsoring terrorism all over the world
>he thinks terrorism is an actual threat and not a nuisance
>he fell for the terrorism meme

shit nigger, get it together.

>Do you even know what fucking federalism is?

How Lebanon got put back together after the great chimpout of the 70s and 80s.

>>33596316
>Hit 44 structures
>Operations resume hours later

I don't know man, maybe you shouldn't use such CRAPPY MISSILES

>>33602171
#rekt
You rekted him so hard, the UN will put sanctions on you for that.

>>33602171
Do you know how many weapons depots were seized by the rebels? They didn't conjure up T-72s and APCs from thin air, they fucking captured government armories. How is that refuting anything that I said?

>He fell for the terrorism meme
You stupid fucker what is running a truck through a huge crowd of people in the name of the Allah and the Caliphate? You really are a special kind of stupid.

>How Lebanon got put back together after the great chimpout of the 70s and 80s.

No you fucking retard. Federalism is a system of government that resides within the confines of a democratic republic. Federalism means that the states/provinces and a federal government have specific powers and duties, and that they share them in order to balance power. It is completely irrelevant to Syria.

>>33602273
You mean from all the stockpiles of chemical weapons that Assad had destroyed like he said? Really makes you think.
Btw other guy.

>>33602273
There's no arguing with a retard who will compliment himself here>>33602252

Just wait until a bunch of missiles turn his fantasies into ash, maybe then he'll kill himself.

>>33602318
The chemical weapon stockpiles were destroyed (supposedly) after the 2013 Sarin attack. The war started in 2011, and those weapons could have fell into the hands of rebel groups just as all the chlorine shells did. Assad is winning right now. He just repelled a major counter attack in Idlib. Why would he jeopardize his position by gassing civilians?

>>33602273
>How is that refuting anything that I said?

In >>33601866 you said that

>They said the same shit back in 2013 and when an investigation was conducted they found that it wasn't the Syrian government

I can find no evidence to support such a claim.

>You stupid fucker what is running a truck through a huge crowd of people in the name of the Allah and the Caliphate?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103

Besides that, IS is based out of Syria and Iraq. The Libyan affiliate is weak and the two main factions in the Libyan civil war have teamed up to gangbang them.\

Besides that, and this is the most important point.

>bomb Arab leaders who fuck with us
>don't bomb Arab leaders if we think it'll help the Islamists
>Arab leaders now have an incentive to cultivate Islamists as political protection

>No you fucking retard. Federalism is a system of government that resides within the confines of a democratic republic

And it's also a solution that is commonly implemented in civil wars that have stalemated. Kurdish lands run by Kurds, Alawite lands by Alawites, ISIS lands by Comp B.

None of the factions in Syria can unify the country. A unification by force is impossible without a foreign military campaign on the scale of the 2003 campaign in Iraq.

>>33602361
>Why would he jeopardize his position by gassing civilians?
Because maybe it was someone who hated the enemy so much and thought he could get away with it. They didnt bomb Assad, they bombed the place where it came from most likely. This will make everyone think double before they try that shit again.

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>>33596316
Sputnik "news" (the company is owned by Putin) posted pictures of the damage caused by the air strike.
.this is one of their pics
(1/2)

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>>33601638
>>33602453
pic is of soviet chemical weapon containers

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>>33602171
>he thinks terrorism is an actual threat and not a nuisance
You'd think this was more than a nuisance if it happened to you or your daughter.

>>33602483
Damn she got btfo. Also what is this gook language saying?

>>33602378
And you have no evidence to prove that it was the Syrian government.

>Flight 103

One fucking incident. I'm not saying that it's okay, but coming after him nearly 20 years later and using that as a justification is ridiculous. If retaliation was necessary we have done it then. It was a political move aimed at encouraging the Arab Spring.

As far as your last point, I won't even get into how incoherent and stupid your argument is. You have been lead to believe that most of the Syrian people want Assad gone. Most of the Syrian people don't really give a fuck, they just want to fucking go home. If Assad was the butcher everyone says he is, than why did he give amnesty to rebels in Aleppo. He could have killed them to the last man. You do know about the Battle of Aleppo right?

Oh and dividing the country up into religious factions? Google what happened when we did that after both World Wars.

>>33602483
Nice appeal to emotion.

Maybe it'll make me too sad to ask how Qaddafi was preventing Uzbekistanis from legally immigrating to Sweden and then killing a bunch of people with no outside help.

Maybe it'll even help me to forget that Generation Y is the first generation in American history projected to have a shorter life expectancy than their parents, and that that's entirely attributable to obesity.

Terrorism is a problem is you live in Syria or Pakistan. In the United States, the only people who care about it are dumb mooks who can't tell the difference between flashy and important.

>>33602453
>>33602473
>Don't read the thread
>Post disproved bullshit
Next time read the thread before throwing out your rancid unitedstatian propaganda.

>>33602473
>>33602453
Since you seem to be new to the party:
Those are general purpose containors, first they were chemical weapon containers, of course emptied in 2013 according to the vatniks, later story changed: they hold cluster ammunition, beause there is one picture and a vid showing ONE container, that of course means all are those, and now the newest spin is that they are containers for mine dispensers. I saved you reading through 10 threads of shitposting.

>>33602449
There have been over 60 incidents of chemical attacks in Syria perpetrated by both sides since the start of the war, mostly involving chlorine gas. Do you think we're going to launch another 60 fucking cruise missiles at a rebel held neighborhood? Did we launch cruise missiles into Egypt when ISIL suicide bombed a couple churches and killed dozens of men, women, and children? People are still fucking dead, what's the difference if they died from gas or from an IED.

>>33596316
here is a tip for you all
> Syria needs to stay a de-stable cluster fuck
>All the crazy arabs are there killing each other
>if we fix Syria, then all the crazy Arabs will go someplace else and kill people

>>33602522
>but coming after him nearly 20 years later and using that as a justification is ridiculous

Tee bee aytch, I want the US government to both have a long memory, and be extremely vindictive.

The brown man must know fear.

Besides that, it illustrates the point that Arab regimes hostile to the US tend to enjoy terrorism, just as much as Arab non-state actors do.

>you have been lead to believe that most of the Syrian people want Assad gone

The Sunnis definitely do, it's all sectarian at this point.

>Most of the Syrian people don't really give a fuck, they just want to fucking go home

They're not stupid enough to believe they can let Assad take back control and not expect to live the rest of their lives under a reign of terror.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_violations_during_the_Syrian_Civil_War#Syrian_government_and_allied_forces

Similarly, the Alawites aren't stupid enough to relinquish control of their own areas.

I'm just looking at what worked in Lebanon, and it wasn't a military solution. Ethnic autonomy is the only feasible way to end the fighting.

>>33600981
>It's okay, I'll wait till you surf your state propaganda for a justification.
Too much irony is bad for the blood comrade.

>>33602563
>first they were chemical weapon containers
No they were not, as it is clearly indicated by the markings on them.
>later story changed
The story never changed, only retarded clueless fatniks ever claimed that the containers that are clearly literally marked for cluster munitions were containing chemical weapons.
>beause there is one picture and a vid showing ONE container
Numerous containers are clearly visible, all having the same cluster munitions marking. A single container with chemical weapons marking is yet to be presented by retarded clueless goalposts moving fatniks that are desperate to push their rancid state propaganda.

>>33596334
Your post is textbook whataboutism.

Consider killing yourself.

>>33596316
The name Tomahawk is extremely offensive to Native American peoples.
You need to rename your missilez to something less offensive.
This bigotry and racism has to end now.

t. Liberal Feminist

>>33602590
>w-why should someone care
That exuse was to be expected, lets see which others will follow. So how many died at the individual 60 attacks? Where they less? Was a obvious chemical weapon used or something else? You got yourself all the answers, maybe start thinking for yourself a bit, instead of demanding to get spoonfed for the obvious.

>>33602590
Because the Syrian government agreed to dispose of their chemical stockpiles.

>>33602664
What is the obvious? Rebel groups have been known to use chlorine shells. They've bombed mosques in Damascus. Why are we drawing a line on Assad but no one else if their isn't an underlying agenda?

>>33602634
You must have been on an different /k/ then, must be nice there.

>>33602692
Maybe so but the rebels didn't, and they still have plenty of chlorine shells ready to go. Why aren't they getting hit by missiles?

>>33602699
>>33602718
Proofs

>>33602692
Well thats wjat obongo clained anyways.
He also declared the Arab Spring in Egypt was all because of him.

>>33602742
So you're claiming the Syrian government didn't agree to dispose of their chemical weapons?

>>33602718
Why would the US bomb their own CIA assets?

>>33602749
No.

>>33602731
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_chemical_weapons_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War#Incidents

>>33602754
Exactly my point.

>>33602076
So I did more googling.

>On 7 August 2015, the United Nations Security Council adopted resolution 2235 (2015) to establish a joint investigation mechanism (JIM) to identify the perpetrators responsible for the use of chemical weapons in Syria. The resolution was drafted by the United States, and adopted by all 15 members of the Security Council.[81][82] The JIM issued its first report on 12 February 2016.[83] The second was released on 10 June 2016,[84] while the third report was issued on 30 August 2016.[1]

>In January 2017, they declared that they had composed a list of those responsible for using chemical weapons in the war The list, which has not been made public, is divided into three sections. The first, is titled "Inner-Circle President" and has six people, including Assad, his brother, the defense minister and the head of military intelligence. The second section names the air force chief and its four commanders, including the heads of the 22nd Air Force Division and the 63rd Helicopter Brigade. The last section titled "Other relevant Senior Mil Personnel" includes two colonels and major-generals. This they said indicates that the decision to use gas came from the very top. [85]

>>33602699
The obvious facts:
1.Chlorine aint sarin
2.Number of deaths to the one in question? Is there even one close to the amount?
3.So when has IED been said to be the red line?
People like you can bet so mindbending creative to hold your own shit together, but something obvious you dont like? You cant understand 1+1 the second that happens.

>Rebel groups have been known to use chlorine shells.
You mean known like people making up stuff? No my friend, it is known those were all chlorine accidents! Like yourself of getting a heap back of your way of arguing?

>>33602797
>Which has not been made public

Hmmm that's convenient

In my uninformed opinion the attack was a failure but the only reason anyone knows or cares is because it was Trump's first bombing run. Shit gets wasted all the time.

>>33602634
Where have you been the past days? Not only we can deal with the daily bullshit, but in the next thread the next idiot strolls along and tries to tell everybody how there was never any other bullshit or anything. Feels a bit like the dementia station at grandmas.

>>33600571

Is it more likely their systems just got BTFO and they're denying it because "F-fucking Yankii Chadniks ;_;"?

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>>33603027
It's funny how no one except for brainwashed fatniks are pushing the idea that containers makers for clusted munitions are magically containing chemical weapons. It was the same with the supposedly destroyed "Pantsir" that later turned into "Krasukha-4" in their fatnik minds.

Still baiting for yous?

>>33603108
So this was your post? Got me worried for a second there are more fullly vatniktarded people around here. Quite the relief to know it was you.

>>33603139
>Still baiting for yous?
And apparently it is working.
>>33603222