any army that is more ate up than the Israelis?

>>33592785
>any army that is more ate up than the Israelis?

Most of them. If you've never seen a third world Army try to function in-person, you ain't seen shit.

Israel's military isn't as hot shit as it thinks it is, but pound-for-pound, they far outmatch any standing army they'd ever be expected to fight.

>>33592785
Yeah those fucks are the most overtalked people ever. I would rather have South Koreans or Finns than IDF javing my back. Israelis arent shit hot its just their neighbors are worse.

>>33592785
english please

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>>33592859
?

>>33592880
Not to be JIDF, but applying split second nitpicks from photos is a really terrible way of figuring out anything about a military. Also, sliding kneepads down to the ankles is down by every military that issues them.

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>>33592898
Yeah, i know those knee pads are garbage, but when you are being filmed you are supposed to represent.

>>33592880
yeah that just happens with knee pads the only reason we have them is some general made them an wants sheckles

>>33592975
What do you mean "we have them" do you mean "we" the jews or we the "american army"

>>33592917
I'm sorry they couldn't take enough time in a warzone to pose nicely for the camera.

conscripts and foreign jews serving for a few years to put it on their resume or get residency visa for a second/back up house.

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>>33592785
> any army that is more ate up
Yes- just about all of them.
I've trained with US paratroopers that though that they're above us but didn't really outmatch our guys by any parameter. I met soldiers from a certain an African country who believed that they're hot stuff- even though they came so that we would teach them that aiming is universally better than spraying bullets at the target's general direction. I saw a Czech general that came to us to study about a cretin doctrine on the cross-divisional level (turns out we're considered to be experts on that matter or something)- yet his military ego caused him to cut off every sentence our general was making because "he knows better".
All the militaries in the world are the same: think that they're the shit, but actually just shit.

>>33592815
> Israel's military isn't as hot shit as it thinks it is
We like to pat ourselves on the back, but we're also very well aware of our weakness and limitations (and the good fortune that even if the entire region wants us dead, at least we only
have to fight Arabs).

>>33592856
I presume that you're an expert on the subject, and have at least some kind of experience with the parties you mentioned?

>>33592880
Any soldier, any military- same problem. Though they now adopted some kind of a new 2-piece pads that promise to fix this problem. I'll believe only when I see in reserve duty.

>>33592917
> being filmed you are supposed to represent.
You can't even imagine the contempt that Israelis feel towards anything representative and official-looking. Uniform pride is literally an unknown term here, and soldiers will often go to some effort to look sloppy.
Also, what's the problem with the wrist? He boosted the guy's feet. What actually bothers me is the poor helmet wearing- an epidemic in the IDF.
>>33593390
I guess he means Jews. Lots of people here finish their service and make fortune by selling to the army stuff that they felt that were lacking during their service.

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>>33594957
>Finns
Oh fugg :D Pls no :DDD

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>>33594985
Finns are bros. I still think that we're "better",so to speak, even without taking in account size and equipment, but mostly because we get more practice and have a more prominent need to be.

>>33593456
Wat u tok about? Conscripts serve because it's the law and because the public's general consensus is to praise the military and despise dodgers. And non-Israeli Jews can get their citizenship simply by arriving, no service or anything is required- you just get the ID even before exiting the airport.

>>33592898
You sound reasonable. Git out.

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>>33592785
Oy vey watch it you antisemite. Here, have this carefully selected picture of attractive women in the IDF

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>>33594957
Like clockwork. What's next, pictures of attractive female IDF conscripts?

>>33595560
terrible photoshop on her forehead acne

>>33595545
wow look at all those happy and attractive young girls in the IDF. maybe they really are an elite fighting force

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>>33595584
*BRRRAAAAAAPPPPPPPP*
>sorry anon, I forgot gas was inhumane teehee XD

>>33595580
Lel, I've posted this pic probably a thousand times and this is the first time I've noticed that.

>>33592785
>more hagada
Thank You for Your effort to further humanise IDF; but the top models with guns are better in that suite

>>33595615
What the fuck

>>33595545
>tfw you're more aroused by the worn off vintage carbines than the qt jews

>>33595703
>not having a fart fetish
Faggot

>>33595721
There is literally nothing wrong with that. Jewish girls are massive sluts anyway. Not wife or gf material at all.

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>>33595703
This is you right now

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Merkava had a boating accident.

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>>33595911

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>>33595917
Letting conscripts drive tanks anywhere other then flat planes was not the best idea.

>>33595917
>what happened?
>the front fell off

>>33592815
>but pound-for-pound, they far outmatch any standing army they'd ever be expected to fight.

I was under the Impression that Jordan was a pretty great military, with their US trained Special Forces helicopter pilot king and their top of the line, internationally used, special forces training facility?

>>33592785
I trained with the Israeli army for 3months this summer. The regular combat troops are well eqipped but the SF in Israel is incredible, and they have basically the same air support capabilities of the US. (F15A,Viper, Apache,Predator) Israel is without a doubt the second most competent military in the world behind the US.

>>33595989
>t. Lt. Rosenberg
Thank you for your service to Israel

>>33595977
I've lived and trained next to the military of both countries. I can't personally comment on Special Forces, but when it comes to the line troops, at least 100% of Israelis show up to work wearing shoes.

Americans who serve in the Israeli army should be stripped of their US citizenship

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>>33595615
Kill your self

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Why do people here hate Israel?

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>>33595560
No, I always like to post relevant/semi-relevant pics with my post, no matter the subject.
What's the point of an image board, without images?

>>33595721
Can relate.

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>>33595560
Speaking of clockwork...
>>33595545
>>33595763
>>33595911
>>33595917
>>33595922
>>33597074

>>33595132
Conscripts are shit.

>>33592785
>Qcb with a MAG
As someone who just in the middle of qcb training in the idf, I have to ask, what the fuck?

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>>33597074
I have this on good authority from /pol/.

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>>33597472
Well that's just like, your opinion, man.
conscripts can be dope if utilized correctly. Israel seems to utilize them correctly.

>>33595951
Underrated

>>33592785
The only reason the Israelis look good is because we compare them to Arabs.

>>33595763

I can't make fun of a picture like this. They're just having a great time.

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>>33595763
tfw I'll never be issued a potato sack for trousers

>>33592785

Considering the fact that the Jews managed to fuck the Minimi attaching a bayonet to that is probably a better combat competent use.

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>>33597074

Because it's a degenerate wanabe western country with lobbys so far the ass of most western nation that you can't say anything bad about them. And at the same time are playing the look how "conservative we are" game and the "look how liberal we are" game with no sense of hypocrisy. While also screaming bloody murder when ever someone is being expedient in a combat situation but you can't point out when ever they bend the "rules" of war or just ignore national sovereignty or international laws, because muh "righteous" side of the war.

They are the biggest hypocrites this world has ever seen, but you can't say shit. At this point I would wager they don't even know it themselves because of how sheltered they are from criticism.

Muslim insurgents can routinely sneak across IDF fortified borders and kill or kidnap jewish soldiers. Which then results in a boondoggle ground war by the IDF as they attempt to rescue their soldiers.

IDF female soldiers are all POGs or put into propaganda untis like the Caracal Battalion. Caracal is on the Egyptian border. Which is relatively safe.

They get 50 billion plus a year in defense aid from the United States.

>>33592785
>booger hook on the bang switch
Really /k/? This far down and no one mentioned it? I figured one of your diseased chimps would have harangued the hook nose for this.

>>33598486
How are we hypocrites?

>>33597074
Personally it's the whole uses weapons we give them on the cheap or for free for warcrimes thing. That and the whole "we need a land to call our own because the nazis were so evil" followed by bulldozing the homes of the original denizens, forcing them into economically depressed ghettos or deporting them, and then seizing a "buffer zone" around them and bull dozing more locals houses there for a little lebensraum to replace them with settlements of their own which are totally not things the nazis did.

>>33598565

By sending or letting people with radio towers shoved up their ass and no sense of humility or diligence representing you abroad.

From a personal experience I "had" to sit through a 2 hour holocaust documentary / presentation put together by whatever Israeli group plus some good goys. That in between the look how bad this was and you should feel bad for the victims tried to guilt trip my ass. To add some context my town was under foreign occupation for the whole war and up until late 1944 my own people were suffering a worst fate than the jews and had nothing to do with the homocaust. But apparently it's guilt trip time cause fuck it why not.

And I see this sort of shit everywhere from small shit in person to the big things like "you can't criticize the jews" law in the UK. I know some of it has nothing to do with Israel but just European Jews, but some of it does and it pisses me off.

>>33598565
You're not. He's just an angry fragile disenfranchised white toxic male. Don't worry, the authorities are on their way. I apologize on behalf of the entire White race, especially the Germans, but also especially for the British and Americans. Thank you, greatest, fairest, most trust worthy and loyal ally!

>>33595615
Kill yourself

>>33598588
>weapons we give them on the cheap or for free
Normal American thing. See Lend-Lease.

>for warcrimes
What warcrimes?

>That and the whole "we need a land to call our own because the nazis were so evil"
More accurately, because 5.5 million of us were exterminated and the world did nothing.

>followed by bulldozing the homes of the original denizens,
We're the original denizens. And most of the land we *bought* fair and square under the British administration. The Arabs lost the rest when *THEY* started the '48 war and lost. Boo-fucking-hoo.

>>33598618
>By sending or letting people with radio towers shoved up their ass and no sense of humility or diligence representing you abroad.
What the hell are you even talking about, retard?

>>33598635
Ironic post.

>>33598693

>What the hell are you even talking about, retard?

I don't know faggot, maybe what I wrote but that requires you to fucking read.

Any Israeli I talked to that was no in the land of sand has almost always been a holier than thou smug ass. Same for your diplomatic arm or corporate equivalent.

>>33598693
>>33598693
>5.5 million of us
weak bait
>and the world did nothing.
Sorry, master. Us lowly goyim were not there to serve and protect you.
>Ironic post.
It's called 'sarcasm,' Moshe.

>>33597802
>Screenshot looks like Rhodesia

>>33598721
>I don't know faggot, maybe what I wrote but that requires you to fucking read.
You mean that insane rant about radio towers up butts and a lack of diligence when you describe fucking diligence in their deeds?
Dumb idiot. How do you even know how to type?

>>33598732
>weak bait
2/10

Where does the eternal butthurt anti-semites posses come from?

>>33598693
>Normal American thing

we actually give israel an abnormally large amount of military aid as compared to other countries.

>What warcrimes?

Specifically indiscriminate use of incendiary weaponry in built up civilian areas. INB4 "buh buh merica does that too" or some argument about how dirt farming jihadis playing dirty makes it ok for a first world country to do so as well. I'd also argue that israeli field testing of certain munitions for the US (DIME for example), while probably not expressly illegal is extremely immoral likely should be considering it's carcinogenic nature.

>"us"
Oh, wonder how this discussions going to go.

and for the rest of that, suggesting that prior bad actions of dead people somehow absolve you of current sins and inhumane behavior seems a bit ridiculous.

>" buh buh we lived here b4 them etc etc"

being descended from someone who once lived somewhere doesnt entitle you to land there. nobody would suggest that its ok for me to hop a boat to sweden and bulldoze someones house to build my own because my ancestors lived in that general area a hundred plus years ago. Buying land from someone is only ethical if the actual holders of the land are being compensated and participating of their own uncoerced free will. That's collective punishment my friend, one of the pillars of genocide. Just because SOME arabs did X doesn't mean you can treat ALL arabs like Y. that makes you prejudiced, and arguably a bigot. INB4 buh buh merica did that 150 years ago

>>33598768

>when you describe fucking diligence in their deeds?
>Diligence
>Guilt tripping those without a single fault or relation to those of fault

or
>Making it illegal to criticize a group of people

What the fuck?

>Dumb idiot. How do you even know how to type?

Shlomo do you even know what diligence is, or how to not act like a fucking ass.

And people wonder why an Austrian painter wanted to dispose of you in a similar manner to lice.

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>>33598768
>Where does the eternal butthurt anti-semites posses come from?

Very simple.

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>>33592785
Holy fucking IDF, it's like a fucking moth to a flame, I always thought that shit was a joke!

>>33595615
>*BRRRAAAAAAPPPPPPPP*
Thanks to this meme, whenever I look at or grab a woman's ass, the first thing I think of is *BRAAAAP*. Fuck you.

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>>33598768
>anti-semites
This is a swear word. I know I'm in the vast minority opinion here, but in-group/out-group dynamics should be reciprocal. Jews treat Westerners as an out-group (fair enough). Therefore, we should treat you as an out-group, too, yes? Does that not seem reasonable to you?

I know liberals are horrified by assigning anyone as the 'other,' so let me just make a public service announcement. The reason we treat out-groups as a collective is because they don't identify with our value system, therefore they will not police their own UNLESS we collectivize their punishment. If you are part of the in-group and DO identify with our values, then we can treat you as an individual. No problem!

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>>33598817
>we actually give israel an abnormally large amount of military aid as compared to other countries.
Ok, prove it. With numbers. Compare to aid to Britain, France, Russia, and others over the last century.

>Supposedly indiscriminate use of incendiary weaponry in built up civilian areas
ftfy. Anything real?

>and for the rest
Yeah I get it, you're an anti-semite who doesn't believe Israel should exist. News at 11.

>>33598825
>>Guilt tripping
Can't say they aren't diligent at it :)

>>Making it illegal to criticize a group of people
That's Europeans who do that. Take it up with them.

Dumb illiterate goyim.

>>33598836
True dat.

>>33598874
>Therefore, we should treat you as an out-group, too, yes?
Historically you have. Hence why Israel exists. Hence opposition to Israel/Zionism is anti-semitism.
Do what you want in your countries but stop bitching about how we defend ourselves from the same people who attack you. Stupid fucks.

>>33595560

>make a thread about IDF
>someone starts talking about IDF
>LOL le JIDF meme xD so funny

Don't you have a subreddit to return to or something?

>>33598947
>Historically you have.
>Historically
Then we agree on the problem. Labeling ourselves as 'racist' hinders our ability to treat you as an out-group, which is absolutely necessary because until we do you will not police your own. If you're looking for someone to blame, look no further than your own diaspora. They are causing us problems; Israeli Jews and diaspora Jews are the same, because they work together.
>Hence opposition to Israel/Zionism is anti-semitism.
That doesn't work anymore. I'm changing this to 'counter-Semitism.'
>Do what you want in your countries but stop bitching about how we defend ourselves from the same people who attack you. Stupid fucks.
You arrogant sonofabitch, you need us more than we need you.

>>33598947
>unironically thinking that people not having an established sovereign state makes it acceptable to impose a new sovereign state on them
>full of their worst ethnic enemies
Eddie Izzard wrote some great comedy about people like you and flags

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>>33599091
I'm glad goyim leaders have been more supportive of Israel than you are.

>>33599124
>Eddie Izzard
Who cares what that tranny thinks?

>>33592785
>I could post pics and pics of sloppy sht.
You could do the same with any military. It's called confirmation bias.

>>33592785
>240
It's a MAG. Complete with FN Herstal rollmarks.

>>33599136
>I would expect Israelis to do the same thing.
lolno
>I'm glad goyim leaders have been more supportive of Israel than you are.
I feel so bad now.

I was expecting you to take the 'Israeli and diaspora Jews are the same' bait. Clever that you didn't.

>>33595951
Lel

>>33596325
>at least 100% of Israelis show up to work wearing shoes
Is Jordan really that bad?

>>33597419
Ever notice that it's always the same photos reused by each side?

>>33599177
>Born in UK, Used in Israel
>Israel
I think they have you beat, m8.

>>33598947
> Over the last century

LOL, you're actually going to try to obfuscate how much recent aid we give Israel by comparing it with the aid we've given foreign allies during serious shooting wars? Not sure if baby's first attempt at arguing or just retarded. As for real numbers, from 1999-2018 we will have given israel approximately 50 billion dollars in military aid alone. another 38 billion has been agreed to for 2018-2028. averaged this is 2.2 billion per year from 1999-2008 and ~3 billion per year from 2008-2018(they do 10 year agreements). For context, the second highest receiver of military aid recently has been egypt, with aprx 1.5 billion last year.

Israel quite literally receives twice as much military aid as any country from the US.

>"anything real"

I suppose the numerous civilian corpses, photographic evidence, and independent third party verification of israeli indiscriminate use of WP and DIME in built up areas of the gaza strip to include women and children sheltering in UN buildings doesn't count as real to you? Or maybe you just have no concept of what qualifies as a warcrime and that's where your apparent confusion comes from.

>"u just hate the jews! let me ascribe some distasteful beliefs to you so i can feel better!"

Protip, first of all anti-zionism does not equal anti-semitism. Maybe look the terms up in a dictionary sometime? although lol, desu idk if anti-zionism will have it's own entry in a paper one.

Second I think the fashion in which Israel was created and continues to act certainly leave much to be desired but that doesn't mean i think israel should be wiped off the face of the earth or something.

In closing im not sure if you're just a poor troll or some zionist trying to desperately justify every single action israel has taken, but either way you'd do well to make a greater effort to educate yourself in the future. When your points are this easily debunked it almost isn't even fun anymore.

>>33598511
>50 billion plus a year in defense aid from the United States.
More like 4.

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>>33599275
>LOL, you're actually going to try
Nice attempt at damage control. You never gave a time period in your claim, you said:
>we actually give israel an abnormally large amount of military aid as compared to other countries.
Ok, according to when? So you're going to cherrypick years and consider that an argument?

Disregarded the rest of your post since it took you 30 minutes to spit up that first pathetic sentence. Take your "babby's first debate" skills back to your containment board.

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>>33599311
Not him, but he didn't cherrypick the years.

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>>33599311

Nazis did nothing wrong m8, Bolshevik Jews were scary fucks and killed far more people than nazis ever did.

>>33599247
Threads about the IDF are 99% shitposting, and incredibly boring. They always end up looking the exact same way, which is why people interested in actual content don't participate. There is no overcoming the tide of dumb.

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>>33599331
He literally is.

>>33599338
Meh, then the Bolshevik Jews won. Nazi Germany is a memory.

Why worship literal losers?

>>33599338
Look man, everyone on /k/ agrees that Germany's reclaimationwas justified to an extent by how they were treated, and that the Bolsheviks caused a lot of bullshit in post WW1 Europe. We know Stalin probhaly did kill more Jews in the Holodomer and Great Purge but Germany still had the Holocaust.

>>33595763
IDF Special Forces

>>33599348
Jews are neurotic and obvious liars. You expect reasonable dialogue with them?

>>33599379
At least Israeli autists are useful for something other than shitposting.

>>33599311
Assuming i was speaking relative to aid given to other countries 70 years ago when i used the present tense when speaking is literally retarded. To take my statement literally would be to use the present fiscal year as i used the present tense. Not surprising that you refuse to respond to the rest of my points, just spout some more meme arguments and back out gracelessly you moron troll.

FWIW i've never even been to pol.

>>33599351
>that cut before the us soldier takes the kid's watch

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>>33599351
>Why worship literal losers?
Why demonize them decades after their defeat? Should they not be respected as a worthy foe? Of course, Jews "never forget!"

>>33599363
>Germany still had the Holocaust.
If your troops were starving, how much resources would you set aside for interned political enemies? If America was on the verge of defeat, I would expect all those Japanese we had in internment camps to starve, too. What's the excuse for Holodomor? More to the point, why doesn't the public even know about it?

>>33599382
Oh sure, There might be 1-2 Israelis who feel the need to push back against obvious /pol/ bullshit. And they're easy marks.
But there oughtn't to be /pol/ bullshit to begin with. Dumb statements, cherrypicked images, general bait, etc. You find shitposting in every country's discussion thread, and you expect it to a degree. But there are quite a few less effective, and capable militaries in existence that pass by threads with a minimum of interference, sometimes even warranting praise for minimal achievements. But Israeli threads are always garbage. There's never any serious discussion.
Pretty sad that every one of these threads have to look like this. I'd like to imagine it's mostly crossboarders, but you never know.

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Jewish women are the most beautiful in the world.

>Good cooks
>Won't spend all your money
>Petite bodies
>Rich father
>Big smelly feet
>Crazy in bed
>Not as hairy as you think.

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>>33599465
muh /pol/ bogeyman
With other countries there is no confusion about which one is the client state.

>>33599487
Senpai, d-do you think those women are attractive? You may want to visit an eye doctor.

The only time jewish women were hot was in the oven.

>>33599487
What did i just read ?

let's just take /pol/ and the jews
and push them out of a helicopter

>>33597472
>implying a bunch of retards lured in by money will do a better job

>>33599136
is what israel doing actually stopping people launching rckets at them though?

If Israel continues as they have, those rockets will continue to be launched. Indefinitely.

maybe you should genocide those filthy arabs eh?

>>33592785

It's a conscript force composed of fucking Millennials. What did you expect?

>>33592785
An arab israeli last week, while having a trip with his 4x4 in the northern mountains found huge amount of ammunition, artillery shells and bombs left in the middle of no where by the IDF. I MEAN WTF
Video very much related

http://video.genfb.com/1310840958953819

>>33600229
Now we know where US aid goes

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>>33599685
lel

>>33600229
I'd bet they were left (((accidentally))) to be found by (((ISIS)))

>>33600319
This Guy is top kek, look at a map of the middle east, IDF is usually un compitent as fuck , military weapons smugiling are usual.

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>>33595545
I like far right.

>>33595560
I like left

>>33599487
Far right and second from right

>>33600383
I'd rather keep my balls. No overbearing Jewish whores for me, thank you.

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>>33600416
I'm already missing part of my dick anyway so fuck it.

God I fucking hate Jews

>>33598511
>50 billion a year
So off base.

>>33595989
don't you have Palestinian children to throw white phosphorous at schlomo?

>>33600476
>I'm already missing part of my dick anyway
I lol'd

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>>33600612
I didn't.

Come kill me please

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>>33595615

you need to leave

>>33598693
You do realize that 12 million people were killed in the death camps or is it more convenient to forget that? So why am I not being reminded daily about the other 6.5 million non-jews that were killed?