Republicans control the house, senate, and the white house. Why

>>33591096
Because you touch yourself at night.

>>33591105
only on weekends

>>33591096
because 2017 republicans are just closeted democrats.

>>33591096
Do you understand how the government works?

>>33591172
>Bill makes no progress for 100 days.
Do you?

>>33591096
Because they were blowing smoke up your ass.

>Actually thinking pro-gun legislation would go through just because an R won the president's seat.

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Because Republicunts don't actually care about gun rights they just pretend to care slightly more than demoshits so we vote for them and then they use their time in office to destroy privacy, mingle internationally as warmongerers and bloat the federal government further.

>>33591228
>republicans have all this other shit they want to do
>expects to get the gun legislation passed immediately

not to mention the democrats would just sandbag as much as possible because it's not their bill

>>33591096
They can't even pass a healthcare reform bill despite railing against the current one for the last 6 years. What makes you think they would pass this politically insignificant one?

>>33591348
this image is disgusting. please delete it.

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>>33591381
I think she's kind of cute

>>33591348
>mingle internationally as warmongerers and bloat the federal government

Do you not like being a citizen of the world hegemon?

You could always move to France or Italy.

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>>33591096
Because if they actually passed pro-2A shit, they'd lose their leverage to keep dragging you back to the voting booths.

>>33591406
please delete yourself.

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>>33591468
>Thinking you can escape globalist rats especially in France or Italy

Goyim please

>>33591498
no

>>33591096
Because the HPA is still pretty fringe legislation regardless of how popular it is on /k/.

>>33591507
>>Thinking you can escape globalist rats especially in France or Italy

My point is that if you want to be a citizen of a state which is essentially irrelevant you can leave the US you isolationist moron.

>>33591158
/thread

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>>33591096
>2017
>expecting a bunch of overpaid children who shit in the sandbox because someone suggested legislation that didn't come from 'their' party even though they were going to propose the same damn legislation to play nice or get anything done
wew lads

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>>33591539
What does relevancy have to do with anything? Why does being the worlds police somehow make my life better?

It doesn't. Neocon moron kike.

>>33591096
The same reason why florida cant get open carry passed with a republican governor, house and senate. One stupid fucking bitch in orlando is fucking it alll up.

>>33591559
>Why does being the worlds police somehow make my life better?

It does actually. The US more often than not has the dominant position in trade as a byproduct of control of the global commons which means you can get the computer you're using to shit post for $300 at Walmart rather than $5000 through a mail order catalog from China, as an example.

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>>33591598
Yes because the value of a trade partner of a wealthy country consisting of over 300m people would somehow diminish if we didn't go piss around and wave our dicks in the middle East.

You can't be this retarded mate

>>33591096
>Why the fuck wasn't the HPA passed yesterday?
American parliament sits on weekends?

>>33591556
This. the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act were literally cloned from Massachusetts's "Romneycare" system, but because it was passed by a DNC congress they're pissy about it, even trying to use a budget vote to push through a version that not only reverses the gains made, but would make things worse.

>>33591559
Don't you have a thread on /pol/ to get to to worship Ayn Rand's desiccated cunt?

>>33591621
>Implying there would be freedom of the seas without someone enforcing it

>>33591406
"She"

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>>33591773
>opposes interventionism
>DURR OBJECTIVIST

>>33591796
>Syria, iraq and other people are going to intercept all cargo ships

>Russia and others will needlessly provocate the entire world by randomly intercepting trade ships

Lmao holy fuck

>>33591808
Good of you to admit it.

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>>33591096
>he fell for it AGAIN haha

>>33591698
britcucks still think they are witty?

>>33591814
How the fuck is it objectivist to point out that interventionism is not only bad for the US but morally reprehensible?

If I was an objectivist I would probably argue FOR interventionism on the behalf some company which could profit from it and which I held stock in.

>>33591817
This tbqh famalam. I didn't even get 5 pounds of cheese this time around.

>>33591096
because the republicans don't give a shit about gun rights and only have it on their ticket because the Democrats are against it.

Also trump promised a bunch of other shit that they're focusing on passing and failing horribly at. Obamacare still stands, the immigration ban failed, and now they're kind of just looking for some kind of victory to prove to their followers that they still have a plan and aren't just winging this shit as they go.

>>33591363
Not even a reform bill, just the same fucking repeal that they passed 60 fucking times while Obama was in office. They're all hot air.

Reminder that, after 6+ years of kvetching over how Obamacare was shit, the best the Republicans had was an Obamacare clone that was somehow even worse.

>>33592017
Because they know they can't pass a proper one without 60+ votes, and they know that they can't convince the Democrats to vote for a complete turd like what they just tried.

>>33592017
It literally wasn't any of those. Maybe you should look into the specifics of the things you're talking about, lest coming off as a rhetoric-spewing retard.

>>33592039
Because, again, the ACA is basically the GOP-style plan. If they thought they could manage the votes the Democrats would've passed a single-payer system.

>>33591559
SOmeone doesn't understand geopolitics and world economics. You should be thankful the US is the world police and not Mexico, China, Russia, India, or some other shit hole. There will always be a world hegemony, who would you want to fill that role? Why act like the US is the bad guy when we're the best you can get, those trillions in aid you foreigners never complain about, those human right standards we uphold. Sure lets let someone else be world police, you'll be begin for America to return. Coward. Kike. Faggot. Nigger. Leftist. Shill. Russian homosexual. Kill yourself.

wtf i hate the government now

>>33592061
iirc single payer was being tossed around shortly before ted kennedy died but it was set aside as a no-go

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A bunch of millionaire cunts that forgot how legislating works 8 years ago realized they had to start trying to do actual work, but failed to show up and vote anyway. Everyone passed their voting sticks to Jerry, but Jerry was busy fundraising all day for his next incumbent shitfest midterm election.

>>33592110
begging*

>>33592110
You're a fucking idiot if you think those other places would even do such a thing and that you act like middle East intervention has any effect whatsoever on trade sans for oil. You're literally mindlessly defending the MIC you disgusting neocon faggot.

Please kill yourself you low IQ subhuman piece of shit.

>>33592039
it was pretty amazing to see Trump and Ryan pull the legislative equivalent of sitting on your own balls

>>33591332
>And a majority of the senate and house

>>33592156
I'd beat your faggot ass right now faggot. The funny part is that I'm right and you're just an angsty bitch boy teenager with no gf. bitch. Your mom's a bitch too. Keep whining because America will be dicking you and the whole world down for at least 300 years.

>>33592139
We should just do what most countries do:
Eliminate private election funding.
Ban long-run campaigning.
Create fixed block advertising funded by a central, shared budget with controlled limits on spending.

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>>33592195
I am American you stupid fuck

Good job defending the cancer that's continuing to destroy our country and freedom you weak fucking globalist cucked faggot

People like you don't deserve to be called American. Go prep your nigger bull .

>>33592188
They lost seats in the House and have a weak majority of 1 in the Senate.

>>33592218
http://www.ohjoysextoy.com/
>Cuckold is this week's theme

Reminder that only people who are sexually immature and paranoid consider cuck an insult.

>>33592052
No, I mean they didn't even need to try passing a "reform" bill when all they were put in office to do was pass the same repeal bill they've passed dozens of times over the last 6 years.

>>33591834
it's all they have, that and murder mysteries.

>>33591096
Because the Dems will turn it into a propaganda tool to take back some seats in 2018.

I could see the HPA being rammed through in the last days of a GOP majority, just as a major fuck-you to the incoming Dems. Especially if they have a scant majority.

They would waste a lot of time and energy trying to overturn it.

>>33591096
They have other things to do. It hasn't been put to a vote yet.

>>33592267
they are going to take back seats in 2018 anyway. about the only good thing that happened so far was the supreme court appointment, but that required the filibuster rule change which will come back to bite us in the ass with time. in the end the only "victory" so far is bitter sweet.

>>33591847

>morally

Stahp.

>>33592234

>I know nothing of evolutionary imperatives or maladaptive behavior

Good to know.

>>33592234
I see it hit close to home. Tell me, how much bigger is Jamal than you?

>>33592234
the cuck said with all the conviction he could muster.

>>33592330
It is morally reprehensible, when the fuck has US interventionism worked out in the favor of the country where it takes place? Do you think there's so much hate for the US in South America, Asia and the Middle East for no fucking reason?

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>>33592426

Forget morality bru, get yourself some Realpolitik.

>>33592455
Fancy word for "I'm a collectivist, please daddy government fuck my mouth, and please fuck my neighbors mouth too, even if he doesn't want to!"

>>33592313
>the filibuster rule change which will come back to bite us in the ass with time
Barring a tragic accident, probably not. The most elderly justices are all liberal

>>33592490
yeah, but if democrats have the majority at the time they can appoint absolutely whoever they want. the minority party will have absolutely fuck all say.

>The bill amends the federal criminal code to preempt state or local laws that tax or regulate firearm silencers
Wait does this mean I can have silencers in commiefornia?

>>33592476

Ohhhkay then, have fun trying to figure out why the world never, ever seems to work the way you *think* it "should"

>>33592371
>>33592379
>>33592416
>>33592432
Awww, look at all the butthurt replies. Did I strike a nerve?

>>33592581
>they can appoint absolutely whoever they want
and the court will remain majority conservative, like it is now

>>33592590

>butthurt

Not at all. The more unfit any potential competition, the better off I am.

>>33592426
shit worship and fan death aside, South Korea is doing rather well at the moment.....that's about it.

>>33591096
>implying republicans actually give a shit about you, me, freedom, liberty, etc
boy...

>>33592654
>Implying you're getting laid at all

>>33591484
/thread

>>33592635
for now. note how i said it will bite us in the ass in the future. i realize that trying to think more than a few years ahead might be beyond your capabilities.

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>>33591484
WILDfires, not forest fires. There's an important distinction.

t. wife is forestry major

>>33592214
Yea, I definitely agree. Outlawing certain groups of people, or certain times, from speaking about the government is definitely in keeping with the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution.

>>33592928
And it must be noted that that ad campaign actually made things worse, since minor forest fires are kind of a necessity, especially in Cali, but they got people keeping minor fires from going up which let fuel build of for huge, raging fires. Which destroys the ecosystem instead of refreshing it. Some of the trees even use the heat from natural fires to open their seed pods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2N6YdcfZ90

>>33592980
>Letting the rich and the corporations buy our public figures
>Having politicians stuck in a 2-year circus instead of working

>>33592990
Exactly my point.

>>33593009
Don't like the 1st Amendment? Good news! There's a way to change it that is clearly described *in the Constitution itself!*
Go ye, therefore, and repeal the 1st Amendment!

>>33593023
>Implying that's what I'm saying
>Implying you're not completely misreading the point
>Implying our current setup doesn't force constant fundraising instead of doing the job they were elected to do

Whoever decided that money = speech really fucked us over.

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>>33591348
>Because Republicunts don't actually care about gun rights they just pretend to care slightly more than demoshits so we vote for them and then they use their time in office to destroy privacy, mingle internationally as warmongerers and bloat the federal government further.

>>33593045
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC

It basically made it so, as long as the money was funneled through a non-profit, campaign contributions and political advertising were unlimited.

>>33592313
>they are going to take back seats in 2018 anyway.

Not likely. They have 23 Senate seats coming up for reelection, vs 9 for the GOP. Odds favor the GOP holding even or possibly adding a couple. Dems gained 2 in 2016, significantly fewer than they were projected to take.

The Dems are projected to make some gains in the House, not enough to get a majority though.

They're totally on the defensive right now. Expect it to remain that way until at least 2020, and maybe 2024.

>>33591348
did I just fap to a boi?
>again...

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>>33593159

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>>33593159
No a little girl from a YouTube ad.

Nice going

>>33592313
the filibuster for court seats only has existed since 2003. the united states got along just fine for over two hundred years appointing judges to the supreme court with only 51 votes in the senate.

>>33591096
HPA sucks.

Get a bill to repeal the NFA going.

>>33593272
The problem isn't so much the filibuster or no, it's the Republicans ignoring their requirement for holding confirmation hearings, even to vote no, on a perfectly suitable candidate many of them had praised in his appointment to a lower court because he was nominated by a president they'd dickishly decided to stonewall everything on.

>>33591348
>destroy privacy
Really? Because it seems to me that is consistently the Republicans who fight that shit.
If you're just being dramatic about that internet nonsense where the ISP can sell anonymized mass telemetry, well, then you're just being dramatic. All the republicunts did was prevent a bill from going into effect which would have prevented those sales (which have been ongoing for quite some time), so really, they changed nothing in the end. A bum move but hardly something to get in a twist over, if you gave even the slightest fuck about your online privacy you secured your shit after the Snowden leaks at the very latest. The democrats have supported tons of mass surveillance measures and tried to destroy individual privacy in the ACA, various gun control measures, and countless other places.
On the other shit you're about 50/50 but those sentiments apply to dems accurately as well.

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>>33593240
anon, my balls are already exhausted.
>>33593178
I'm not Phil. also, do you even know where you are?

>>33593303
won't happen. Those rich donors to the NRA don't want it. To them, those NFA investments > your 2A rights.

If everyone can convert an AR15 to full auto all the pre-86 ones drop in price.

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>>33593349
Zhe is perfect

>>33593319
they were saving the republic from progressiveism. it is about fucking time the Republican party grew some balls and realized that we are in the middle of a civil war.

furthermore, there exists no constitutional mandate that a hearing be held. the Senate gave it's advice, and refused to consent. the Senate fulfilled their constitutional duty.

>>33593395
>>33593349
sauce?

>>33593416

tips.fbi.gov

>>33593420
They already know.

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>>33593416
Zhenyakotova

>>33593240
>>33593349
>>33593395
>>33593416
>>33593430
fuck outta my thread, faggots.

>>33592582
As it's written, I believe so. I'm hoping it passes just to watch the astronomical butthurt that would ensue.

It would probably renew interest in Calexit. The Lefties gave up on that when they realized they would have to put their own money and work into it.

The sooner they try Calexit, the sooner we get to make the State of Jefferson.

>>33593450
Eat me reddit

>>33591096
Most career, RINO republicucks are no better than democrats and are only in it for the money and power. The recent thing with the failed healthcare bill,I feel, was a show by Trump to demonstrate just how incompetent these guys are, Paul Ryan in particular, without completely alienating them. Trump's already working with Rand Paul on the real healthcare reform.

>>33593349
>I'm not Phil. also, do you even know where you are?
Seemed relevant given your tone. And funny. And everyone should be regularly reminded of what a tool Phil is.

>>33591834
It was a legitimate question, actually.

I assumed not, and OP was using 'yesterday' idiomatically, but you can't be too sure.

>>33593399
>Violating the constitution to save it hurr!

>Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT)

> “Merrick B. Garland is highly qualified to sit on the D.C. circuit. His intelligence and his scholarship cannot be questioned… His legal experience is equally impressive… Accordingly, I believe Mr. Garland is a fine nominee. I know him personally, I know of his integrity, I know of his legal ability, I know of his honesty, I know of his acumen, and he belongs on the court. I believe he is not only a fine nominee, but is as good as Republicans can expect from this administration. In fact, I would place him at the top of the list.”

>Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL)

>“He has a high position with the Department of Justice and, by all accounts, does a good job there. There will be a number of judgeship vacancies in the D.C. trial judges. He has been a trial lawyer. He would be a good person to fill one of those. I would feel comfortable supporting him for another judgeship.”

>Then-Sen. Strom Thurmond (R-SC)

“I have no reservations about Mr. Garland’s qualifications or character to serve in this capacity. He had an excellent academic record at both Harvard College and Harvard Law School before serving as a law clerk on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit and the U.S. Supreme Court. Also, he has served in distinguished positions in private law practice and with the Department of Justice. Moreover, I have no doubt that Mr. Garland is a man of character and integrity.”

Literally the only reason they refused a hearing was to spite Obama.

>>33593555
>unconstitutional
where in the constitution does it say that the Senate MUST approve a judge?
where in the constitution does it say that the Senate MUST vote on a judge?
where in the constitution does it say that the Senate MUST hold hearings on a judge?

fuck off you democrat shill.

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>>33593529
Bullshit. They made promises, claimed they had a better solution, and that POS bill was the best they could do in the time frame they originally claimed they'd do it in.

>>33593529
>Trump's already working with Rand Paul on the real healthcare reform.
source?

>>33593660
>source?
the deepest part of his ass

>>33593555
>Literally the only reason they refused a hearing was to spite Obama.
as good a reason as any, though.

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>>33593675
And yet, here we are, with a lunatic who's put his daughter and son in law in increasingly powerful, unofficial positions in the White House.

>>33593710
fuck off, you democrat shill.

>>33591484
Huh, never thought about it like that before.

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>>33593660
They haven't made any official statements but Trump spent a weekend alone with Rand down at Mar-a-Lago after the healthcare bill failed. Since Rand's plan is the only other plan on the table right now and actually liked by trump supporters it's safe to assume they will pursue it next.

>>33593710
LOL, ever heard of JFK? democrats have been appointing family members inappropriately for decades.

>>33591813
>>Syria, iraq and other people are going to intercept all cargo ships

This is a strawman.

>>Russia and others will needlessly provocate the entire world by randomly intercepting trade ships

This is also a strawman, but yes Russia would love to be the hegemon.

>Lmao holy fuck

You're a fucking moron.

>>33593753
that's bullshit and you know it.

>>33593737
>>33593767
>Excusing nepotism in the White house

>>33593771
>Hurr people gonna intercept the ships

Ya the middle East is going to intercept international trade ships and cause legit acts of war.

>Hurr this is a strawman

Nice try dumbfuck middle schooler.

>>33592156
>You're a fucking idiot if you think those other places would even do such a thing

If they had the capability they very well would. It's in their best interest to maximize their benefit. There are a host of other variables that make the straight Realist view inaccurate but that is at least one arena where the Realists got it right.

Or have you missed China traipsing about Africa and Latin America? Or creating a competitor to the World Bank (Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank)?

Do you not pay attention to fucking world events?

>>33592426
>when the fuck has US interventionism worked out in the favor of the country where it takes place?

Kuwait 1991.

>>33593816
Germany
Japan
Korea
Bosnia

>>33593710
guess what? if you didn't vote in a president just because he's non-white this wouldn't be a problem. clinton, by all accounts, was the better and more moderate (at least at the time) nominee, but you went full retard and double downed to capitalize on the emerging anti-white neo-liberalism.

if you act out, don't be surprised if those that oppose you retaliate by acting out just as you did.

here's an oldie, but goodie from the campaign:
>Campaigning in the week of April 14, 2008, included a tough debate between Obama and Clinton, who pounded her rival for his recent remark that decades of economic decline had left some rural voters "bitter" and clinging to religion and guns.

>>33593319
>it's the Republicans ignoring their requirement for holding confirmation hearings

The article concerning appointments by the POTUS with the advice and consent of the Senate doesn't actually state that this advice and consent is mandatory. And only the Senate can set rules for the Senate.

Ergo the Senate can just not put a confirmation vote on the agenda if they don't want to. It's rules lawyering to the extreme.

>>33593799
You don't get trade benefit from fucking about in the middle East for Israel you stupid nigger.

And how is that improving the Chinese person's quality of life?

You people mindlessly accept this stupid meme of exerting power and force when in actuality it leads to no actual improvements for the citizens of the nation in the first place.

>>33591888
>immigration ban failed
>blocked unconstitutionally by 9th Circuit and is awaiting judicial heeming

>>33593790
>Ya the middle East is going to intercept international trade ships and cause legit acts of war.

You just keep throwing that strawman out there don't you.

>Nice try dumbfuck middle schooler.

If you can't even bother providing an argument due to your own ignorance then what good is arguing with you?

You get an F, please slap your 1st period teacher for me tomorrow.

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>>33593859
>clinton, by all accounts, was the better and more moderate nominee
what the flying fuck am I reading here. CTR you need to adjust your fucking script.

>>33593894
How is it a strawman retard? Look at who we've been pissing around with recently, how does any of that help the people here?


God I love how you neocon morons blindly accept the idea of exerting influence and strength even when you can't figure out a reason to do it in the first place. You just blindly assume it's a good thing.

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Republicans have leveraged gun rights as a way to get reelected.
They don't want you armed as much as Dems don't, they just won't say it.

Watch, I bet Trump will finish his presidency without him or congress passing any meaningful gun rights laws.

>>33593880
you mean, IT FAILED!?

>>33593909
are you really so stupid as to claim that obama was the better choice in 2008? his whole campaign was literally nothing but muh change, fuck whitey, vote for me or yous racis.

>>33593871
>You don't get trade benefit from fucking about in the middle East for Israel you stupid nigger.

You do when you keep the straight of Hormuz open so that OPEC can't blame that for decreasing production/raising price per barrel.

Our interaction in the MENA is possibly one of the biggest influences in our victory over the USSR. In the 80's the Saudis, acting as our ally, upped production tremendously driving the price of oil on the world market down. Ergo making Soviet petroleum exports, essentially their only remaining profitable economic sector, virtually worthless.

>Hurrr Israel and the JOOS

Yeah fuck them too. I'm not fond of them either. Like the French and Chinese they've continually spied on us for the last 5+ decades for their own economic benefit.

>You people mindlessly accept this stupid meme of exerting power and force when in actuality it leads to no actual improvements for the citizens of the nation in the first place.

You're ignoring soft power you stupid cunt.

>>33593859
>clinton, by all accounts, was the better and more moderate (at least at the time) nominee, but you went full retard and double downed to capitalize on the emerging anti-white neo-liberalism.
>Literally advocated for war against russia and escalation of Syria
>Was an advocate for the deportation of illegals for years
>Advocated for more gun control regulations
>Attracted the extremes of the leftist voter base
>moderate
no

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>>33591096

>>33593942
Shit disregard, this was the 2008 campign

>>33593923
Normal republicans.

I just wish the Trumpkin would ally woth the freedome caucus that stemmed from the TeaParty movement.

If that dumbfuck Trump would have stayed home Cruz would be President right now.

>>33593929
Something being illegally blocked isn't failure the same way being stabbed walking down any street called Martin Luther King Jr. with a Trump hat doesn't mean we don't have freedom of speech. The 9ths judgement will be struck down in microseconds once it reaches the Supreme Court and would still be eventually reversed even in a Democrat court because immigration control has always been an executive power.

>>33593783
>shilling for socialism

>>33593587
This dude isbright, the Senate has every Right to deny the Presidents Supreme Court pick if they so choose.

>>33593938
You're talking about the cold war and oil exclusively which I already mentioned earlier in the thread is the only benefit from this mingling.

The average citizen would be better off with a smaller federal government and less intervention regardless of muh oil.

>>33591158
They don't even care about gun rights or small government, unsurprisingly.

>>33591484
You're smart. Be my daddy

>>33593988
>Hurr durr durr
Is it really that hard to admit Donald "I'm not going to take vacations" "15 Golf trips in 11 weekends" "Mar-A-Lago is the Winter White House" "My vacation travel in a month is more money than the Obamas in a year" Trump is a shitty president and that you fucked up by voting for him?

At least Clinton wouldn't have fired $60m in Tomahawks as a distraction from the failings of her administration.

>>33594018
>is the only benefit from this mingling.

In the MENA, and the Arabian Peninsula to be specific. You're purposefully ignoring the rest of the world.

>The average citizen would be better off with a smaller federal government and less intervention regardless of muh oil.

So you're just going to ignore every point every anon responding to you has brought up and cling to your stupid belief like a zealot.

>>33594054
I'm ignoring the rest of the world that we haven't had a conflict worth noting with since vietnam which was also a waste.

>>33593923
I think Trump will be pro-gun, but only after getting his court appointments elected to the supreme court. Republicans? Nah.

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>>33594040

>>33594063
>I'm ignoring the rest of the world

Thankfully most intelligent people in the US don't agree with you.

>>33593347
>The democrats have supported tons of mass surveillance measures

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act

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>>33593529
>republicans who aren't conservative are no better than liberals
you don't say.

>>33594040
>obama rode ACA "success" his entire two terms
>failed to deliver on a single other promise
>his only real terms successes beyond beyond being black were his prowess at giving putin blow jobs under the table, completely destroying race relations in the us, enabling unprecedented desutrctions of civil liberties and violations of privacy, and a dead on arrival abortive compromise that was destined to fail which squeeked by with a couple votes
>but his continuation of bush policies resulted in the extrajudicial murder of UBL without proof, a convenient distraction of his administration's failure on all fronts
>but drumpf sux 100 days in
cmon guy, lol.

>>33594089
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act

You do realize the Patriot Act started life as the 1996 Counter-Terrorism Omnibus Bill co-authored by then Senator Joe Biden, right?

Which was in response not to Radical Islam but the OKC Bombing, Ruby Ridge, Waco, and the Michigan Militia Movement.

>>33594125
My bad, 1995 CT Omnibus Bill

>>33594110
>failed to deliver on a single other promise
More that he was stuck with an obstructionist GOP congress that actively decided to block any and all things he wanted, even if it was something they wanted.

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So this thread in TL:DR form is: The government fucking hates you, your rights, and your well being.
Yeah it checks out.

>>33594075
>I'll just ignore the rest of his post lol I'm so smart thatll show him

>>33594163
>I'll just ignore the rest of his post

That was your entire post.

You've literally ignored every single argument against your position that you're holding not based on any empirical fact but solely with religious zealotry based on isolationist dogma.

If you're not going to address the actual arguments you could at least stop shit posting.

>>33594183
No you retard I flat out told you why I was focusing on the middle East.

And as to you saying "glad most people don't think like you" never forget people that think like you have given us the government we have now.

Enjoy your company of Schumer, McCain and Graham. You fit right in.

>>33594195
>No you retard I flat out told you why I was focusing on the middle East.

While ignoring the rest of the world, ignoring soft power influence, ignoring R2P etc.

>never forget people that think like you have given us the government we have now.

You mean people who think like me are the reason we control the global commons and have the big seat at the table of international politics?

Well gee whiz you sure make it sound so negative you idiot.

>You fit right in.

I hope so, I'll 99% likely be working for the government again after grad school.

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>>33594150
>defending the constitution is obstructionist
even this hook nosed rat is skeptical of your post.

admittedly there was some partisan bullshit which was completely unnecessary but not nearly as much as is frequently implied, not more than is typical, it is present in almost every administrative term and rarely is it an excuse and if it is that prevalent, there is usually a good reason.
the whole point of the branched system is that a dozen faggot counties shouldn't rule the country because their egalitarianism got the best of them and they elected an america hating anti-white mudslime.

>>33594040
>At least Clinton wouldn't have fired $60m in Tomahawks as a distraction from the failings of her administration.
like her husband did?

also I don't give a fuck about golf trips. I didn't give a fuck about them when king negro was in office either.

>>33594263
Are you really that much of a child that you think "hurr what other party wunts iz uncuntsitutinul".

>>33594292
Yeah, but Obama actually worked all day and had them as a special treat, not as a way to avoid work.

>>33594231
Because we haven't had any meaningful conflict with anyone outside the ME since fucking Vietnam. You literally place your worldview on the fearmongering of career hawk politicians like McCain. Look how well that's worked out so far.

And like I've mentioned multiple times in this thread what does that seat mean for the citizen? Nothing. What does it mean for our rights? Nothing. Considering the bloated federal government that comes with the intervention faggots like you promote it means less than nothing, it means the degradation of our rights.

Your chasing a goal without reason and feeding right into this fucking drain on our liberty.

>>33594308
>Because we haven't had any meaningful conflict with anyone outside the ME since fucking Vietnam.

You're ignoring soft power again.

>And like I've mentioned multiple times in this thread what does that seat mean for the citizen?

How about literally the internet? Is that good enough?

>>33594308
>we haven't had any meaningful conflict with anyone outside the ME since fucking Vietnam
does desert storm not count

>>33594330
Because it's a vague myth people like you meme out to try and maintain our ignorant system of corruption.

>Literally the internet

Epic Reddit response man. Really made me think.


You people act like cooperation and trade and every single thing done internationally only exists because muh big stick. Fuck I am so sick of you jokers. Especially when fags who think like you pretend to be small government right wingers.

>>33594302
I wish all of the members of my government would just work less.

in fact, maybe they could just stop working altogether.

>>33594302
>Obama actually worked all day and had them as a special treat
lmao

>>33594342
>Reading comprehension

>>33594352
>Because it's a vague myth

Soft power is a "vague myth"?

Jesus Christ dude, you're digging that ignorance hole deeper.

>Epic Reddit response man. Really made me think.

It should have. The internet you're using to spew your ignorant beliefs and opinions on is the product of military development.

>You people act like cooperation and trade and every single thing done internationally only exists because muh big stick

YOU'RE IGNORING SOFT POWER.

Here's a hint you dip shit: the influence of US culture and cooperation, open and clandestine, can influence the domestic and foreign policies of partner states towards the US and US business interests in and with those states.

That's literally Soft Power.

>>33594405
Yes I'm sure the internet would not exist at all without a gigantic American military going into conflict after conflict and throwing away lives, liberty and tax payer money. Fucking stupid.

All the influence you jack over benefits the government and military industrial complex. None of this intervention benefits people like me at all.

Keep supporting the fucking Israeli dick sucking though maybe we'll send some young men to die in Syria soon I'm sure that would make your "soft power" hard.

>>33594446
>Muh joos, muh military industrial complex

Is that really all your argument boils down to?

>Yes I'm sure the internet would not exist at all without a gigantic American military

It wouldn't. It literally wouldn't. How young are you that you've never heard of DARPAnet? How fucking young are you that the internet has existed your entire life?

>>33593023
And how exactly can Americans do that when their elected representatives, the ones who actually go to the Hill and are supposed to repeal and legislate shit, benefit off of this interpretation of the 1st Amendment?

>>33594469
That's what your defending is it not?

>The internet wouldn't exist at all without muh military

That is literally the dumbest argument I have ever heard, it's akin to me saying firearms wouldn't exist without chinks discovering gunpowder. It's a meaningless statement based on established history, you don't know how things would progress if things were different but for something like the internet which tech was moving towards regardless would have inevitably been invented.

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>>33594294
>Are you really that much of a child that you think "hurr what other party wunts iz uncuntsitutinul".
no, you seem to however. i admitted forthwith that some cases of republican opposition of obama were complete nonsense.
meanwhile a judge who blocks a travel ban simply because trump is not obama then says exactly as much is totally not opposition for the sake of opposition right?

>>33593753
>spent a weekend alone with Rand
tee-hee

>>33594496
Now you're just shit posting to shit post. 7/8 for this response.

While all you've done is posture, stupidly and ignorantly, on an anonymous image board and clung to your objectively wrong and stupid beliefs, I sincerely hope you go forward and cure your ignorance.

>>33594522
>Just shitposting
>Says the guy making the claim that the internet wouldn't exist without the bloated US military and government

Yeah it's not like the internet benefits the private market and individual at all fucking idiot.

Just because something got started one way historically does not mean in some magical universe where things were slightly different that it wouldn't exist at all. Thats fucking stupid and irrelevant.

>>33594539
>Just because something got started one way historically does not mean in some magical universe where things were slightly different that it wouldn't exist at all.

This is a nonsense statement.

You're literally saying

>WELL IF THINGS HAPPENED THE WAY I THINK THEY WOULD HAPPEN IN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE UNREALISTIC AND WITHIN THE REALM OF FANTASY!!

Just stop kid.

That you've gotten hung up on a literal fact that you can't refute with your idiotic zealotry is indicative of your lack of an actual coherent argument. Your political beliefs can't stand up to a literal statement of historical fact.

Instead of thinking about the implications of that you're trying to imply that the hypothetical existence of an alternate reality would support your beliefs. Perhaps it's time to take a step back and actually realize what you're arguing.

>>33591096

They care about gun manufacturers, not gun owners.

>>33594602
You're the one pulling up hypotheticals dumb fuck. It's not like the internets solely because of the military or government. The way it existed then was unrecognizable to now. You're implying the government and military exactly the way we have it now is the only thing allowing the internet to exist and if it was smaller it wouldn't have existed.

What a fucking two bit asinine thing to say.

>>33593880
>F A I L E D
>F
>A
>I
>L
>E
>D

>>33594363
>lmao
His schedule was literally "get up, work out, work 8 hours, have dinner, read briefing materials all night."

As opposed to Trump's "get up, watch TV, come in late, leave at 6, sit and watch TV all night, tweet angrily about things he saw on Fox news."

>>33594669

9th circuit blocks all bills tabled by conservatives

>>33594681

you're a funny guy

>>33594650
I didn't believe this level of ignorance and lack of self awareness could exist in reality. You're responses are essentially

>MUH JOOS
>MUH HYPOTHETICAL FANTASY WORLDS

You're a fucking idiot. Your beliefs are wrong and you're ignorant to reality. These are objective facts as demonstrated by your terrible shit posts in response to actual arguments and statements of fact.

You're the poster child for uneducated low information voters, congratulations.

>>33594715
You're the one making up hypotheticals fantasy words kid. You act like the meager hand the government had in internet development is the sole reason for it's existence.

>>33592221
>lost seats in the House
6. They still have 241. Even if you had a point, you're still retarded. They are working on other shit and that has no indication of their abandonment, or even a disinterest. They work with polls, lobbies and diplomatic pressure, not what the base wants, because what are you going to do? Vote Democrat?

>>33594499
>meanwhile a judge who blocks a travel ban simply because trump is not obama then says exactly as much is totally not opposition for the sake of opposition right?
No, because the travel ban was nonsensical and based entirely on them being Muslim and not from countries he has businesses in. Which happens to be unconstitutional under the XIV, as it's discriminating for invalid reasons.

>Inb4 Obama's short halt of issuing new Visas to Iraqis after a specific incident called for review of procedure is the same thing

How, exactly, was banning Green Card holders from coming home, or those who'd been in the Refugee pipeline for two years and had extensive enough vetting to get a visa protecting us? That's the least likely method to use to get in the country. A vacation or student Visa is easier, and I'll remind you that refugees are the ones trying to escape ISIS.

>>33594739
Are you really going to double down on your counter factual bullshit?

>kid

You have to be younger than 18 to have lived in a world in which the internet has always existed in it's current form. This betrays that you are actually an ignorant child. Get back to me when you get done with high school you fucking nigglet.

>>33594739
>meager hand
DARPA literally made it

>>33594707
>you're a funny guy
>Documented info about their workdays
Hey, if The Donald wants to eat fast food and chips and stare at the idiot box in a simmering rage and put himself into an early grave, more power to him.

>>33594749
Don't pretend you have as tight a grip on power as you think you do. It's exceedingly rare for a party to hold total power like this for more than one or two election cycles.

>>33594786
Like, literally everything. All of the protocols, transmission methods, and so on.

The dunces who think otherwise love to cite that WWW was made in Britain, but that's just a unifying protocol for pre-existing technologies to serve GUI webpages.

>>33594786
>They made an extremely early version of the internet unrecognizable for anything civilians have had for years

Woopdy fucking Doo

>>33594777
>It's either the current form or the exact form the government made


No bud.

>>33594821
You're objectively wrong you dumb cunt.

There is no way you can spin this. Go to bed you have school tomorrow.

>>33594835
Make sure you suck off McCain and Graham before bed time honey you have to work extra hard thanks to the ED.

>>33594852
Jesus lol this is the last gasp of an ignorant cunt who can't even bother to Google DARPA and internet.

>>33594865
I never argued that the government started the development of the internet we know I'm arguing the importance you're placing on how they started it.

>>33591484
They could always say that the moment the dems get elected, they will reverse all the pro-2A bills, thus insuring votes.

>>33594875
>I never argued that the government started the development of the internet we know I'm arguing the importance you're placing on how they started it.

>>33594820
>Like, literally everything. All of the protocols, transmission methods, and so on.
>The dunces who think otherwise love to cite that WWW was made in Britain, but that's just a unifying protocol for pre-existing technologies to serve GUI webpages.

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>>33594765
but i thought the constitution doesn't apply to non-citizens? isn't that the whole point of gitmo and black sites? you know, that place obama promised to close but decided was wise to keep open while pretending torture wasn't okay?
>conflating three different bans
you're being silly again. muslims have no place in the west beyond subverting it.
>or those who'd been in the Refugee pipeline for two years and had extensive enough vetting to get a visa protecting us?
muslims are not american and cannot be by their own definition of what it means to be a muslim. i think the implementation of both trump bans were unfair, but try telling both whites and globally persecuted Christians who have been getting fucked by us immigration law and refugee quotas based not on merit but brown status while the media has largely ignored them for 50 years that fairness is something us immigration law or politics itself is concerned with.

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>>33591348
>>33591484

These two posts got it right.

Yeah, a bill meant to sell more gun silencers under the pretense of hearing protection MIGHT be passed.

But if you actually think republican candidates care about pro gun laws/regulations any more than what's convenient to them, you were bamboozled hard.

>>33594898
>but i thought the constitution doesn't apply to non-citizens? isn't that the whole point of gitmo and black sites?

Everybody within the US has Constitutional protections, whether they're a citizen or not. Note that I used the term protections, not rights. In a nutshell, this means that anybody physically within the US is entitled to due process. However, non-citizens don't enjoy the full range of Constitutional rights as citizens.

Gitmo and the black sites aren't on US soil, therefore we can take liberties with rights and protections there. It's a moot point anyhow. The detainees aren't lawful combatants under international law. They could be executed, if we so chose.

>>33591096
Because republicans want to make money not make maybe 0.5% of the population happy who can't even afford suppressors anyway

>>33595604
Cost is not the major concern, most don't want to go through the legal shenanigans and multi-month wait of owning them.

>>33592313

Other anons answered most of your points, but here's one they missed. That filibuster rule was going to go the way of the dodo anyway the second the Dems regained power, the Republicans just struck first.

>>33593555

And yet he still had no business filling Scalia's seat. Sorry, cucks, you won't get another liberal in the SCOTUS for a long time.

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>>33591096
Senate Reid-nuclear option was just invoked, have patience.

Here's a long drawn-out spiel with some good story-telling to explain it to you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ej-wwsBfsY

>>33595604
I live in the UK, a decent suppressor is like anywhere between £30-100, they're cheap here because of economy of scale, basically every FAC or air rifle owner owns one. High demand = high production = low cost

>>33595313
constitutional protection yes, full citizens' rights, no.
people who are not in the US have no expectation of protections. people who are not citizens in the US have no expectation of protection from deportation or expectation of full citizen's rights simply by virtue being there.
the more mexi-rats that are deported, the less violent the usa will be.

>>33591096

Because we have a few cucks in the senate who will shut it down because they do not understand the value of victory.

>>33595313
>Everybody within the US has Constitutional protections,
Then we have a right to ban them as they are not in the nation.

>>33594898
The Constitution uses two words to refer to people: Citizens and Persons. Persons apply to all under US jurisdiction regardless of citizenship status.

>>33594888
Different person, and I'm not wrong.

>>33595800
>This is how the alt-right thinks
Then it sets precedent to fuck your side over, etc.

Short-sighted, non-compromising retards.

>>33591096
Sadly, democrats still exist. We can't just kill them all and pass what we want silly.

>>33595990
>the more mexi-rats that are deported, the less violent the usa will be.
>Actual statistics have immigrants, both legal and illegal, at far lower crime rates than citizens

>>33596111
14th Amendment. It's banning legal immigration over causes that are unconstitutionally discriminatory.

>>33596632
>>33595313
who are we talking about here, people not under US jurisdiction or people you can't prove to have been under US jurisdiction?

>>33593023
We can still preserve the 1st while making elections 100% public funded with 0 outside money allowed. The 1st says nothing about money in elections. I dare say, 100% public funding is even closer in spirit to the intent of the 1st since it makes us focus solely on that the fuck the candidates are saying so their message drives the election, and not graft.

>>33593347
Both R and D hate your privacy equally, and want to dismantle the 4th and 5th. They are in lock step. Rs are a little more transparent in their corporate cocksucking, but ultimately they have the same goals for "national security."

>>33594089
both enjoyed bipartisan support. not sure if point or just stupid.

>>33596808
I'll remind you that the first travel ban included people with green cards, permanent legal residents. Their home is here and they suddenly found themselves unable to re-enter the country with no notice.

Similarly, it could be argued that once a visa, especially a difficult to acquire one like a refugee visa, is acquired, they have been granted protections to travel within the US under the terms of that. And taking that away after 2 years of vetting and review is especially cruel of Trump.

>>33596916
i'll remind you that america has never given no fucks about niggers until jews got involved.

>>33596994
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolitionism_in_the_United_States

Eat shit, /pol/.

>>33593272
Which is a terrific point that is being absolutely ignored in the wider media. Only news outlets which are viewed by moderates and liberals as being staunchly conservative are acknowledging that.

>>33597031
/jews/

>>33597031
spoiler: lincoln never intended them to be equals. captcha: bikes

>>33596916
who cares? other countries can take them in. they are a group notorious for not assimilating, so why come to a country with a vastly different culture than theirs?

>>33596858
No one in our government gives a shit about us

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>>33591096
because politicians are useless mouthpieces for whoever manages to bribe/blackmail/threaten them most effectively

they don't give a fuck about their constituencies, just their pay, benefits and """legacy"""

I fucking hate people, I wish I could just go live on the moon

Republicans are the controlled opposition.

If you want your machine guns and automatics AK back on the streets you need to vote libertarian.

>>33591096
Because you fools misplaced your trust. Again. I told you drumpf didn't give a shit about guns

>>33594029

>small government

The GOP hasn't been about "small government" since the vast majority of /k/ has been alive. It's a catch-phrase, essentially the flip-side of the vapid sloganeering that has replaced intelligent discourse on the left. Reagan, Bush, Nixon, all of these Republicans have been responsible for huge increases in the size and scope of the federal government.

The GOP talks a good game about "small government" when they're a minority party or there's a Democrat in the WH, but as soon as they seize power they jack up spending and give the government and corporate America more power over the individual.

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>>33591096
Source? Where

>>33591539
>France
>Irrelevant
Erm.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9tanque_World_Championships#Men_MEDALS_BY_NATION_.E2.80.93_P.C3.A9tanque_World_Championships

>>33598995
Not just that, but because they always cut taxes for the rich and fuck over the poor, they decrease revenue sharply. And they love cutting expenditures that are tiny while increasing big ones.

Hence why the deficit has constantly grown bigger under Republicans. And Kansas and Louisiana, "demonstrator" states for GOP economic policy, have crashed and burned under Brownback and Jindal.

>>33594765

If you had read the EO itself, you would realize how stupid it is to imply that Trump's business dealings had an effect on which countries were chosen.

As in, the E.O. deferred that decision to an Obama era DHS list.

>>33595819
It's not economy of scale. Even a small machine shop can manufacture cans for less than a hundred usd each. They're expensive in the us because no one bothers to sell them for less. It's that simple. It seems stupid, but it's true.

>>33600564
Well, that and it's an extremely competitive market because they're only dealing with those willing to deal with the ATF's shit, so they are generally fighting for a small group of top-end buyers.

>>33594640
This doesn't make sense though. If that's the case, they would've done their best to ram it through since removing suppressors from the list would open up the market for every fucking company to get a piece. Unless you want to claim that the suppressor companies have the biggest chokehold on the republicans, which is 100% false.

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>>33600702
I've heard that they might even be against it because it removes some tax revenue. I don't know if this is true though

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>>33591096
>Why the fuck wasn't the HPA passed yesterday?

Why are you falseflagging and making it sound like the thing was put to a vote yesterday? It wasn't. It's only been introduced so far, but of course this board is so fucking retarded that they believe anything the OP says.

>>33600731
>I've heard that they might even be against it because it removes some tax revenue

How many suppressors do you honestly think are sold in the US in a year to believe nonsense like that?

>>33591302
What the fuck does this saying even mean?!?! How the fuck does billowing smoke up someones ass correlate with them being fooled? It seems like the one blowing smoke up someones ass is the one being fooled, not the other way around.

>>33592582
Except CA will just ban ALL threaded barrels and any gun capable of accepting a silencer. See, you can legally own it, but they'll make it so you can't legally own a gun to put it on.

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>>33592590
>he said, while holding back tears and trying not to suck start a shotgun.

>>33592234
Lacking the backbone to build a stable, monogamous relationship and eventually a good family unit is an insult.

>>33592234
>>33592590
>says the cuck
Letting your gf/wife fuck another man and jerk off to it is quite gay and pittiful. you should be ashamed that you let your eife fuck other men

>>33594150
dems had both houses and the presidency and did exactly nothing with it. stop blaming the gop.

>they're busy with other stuff!
You mean like repealing and replacing Obamacare? LOL
>no refunds >:D
yep

>>33600951
Awww, look at all the butthurt children who can't let others enjoy their kinks!

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>>33594029

>>33596916
Fun fact: non-citizens don't have rights, only privileges.

>>33601031
1: Actual cuckolds aren't going to be insulted
2: Normies just get confused
3: Only your little cult of insecure man-children who think they're owed an obedient sex slave think cuck is an insult

>>33600737
It was referred to the subcommittee which happens to be the one with the lowest rate of bill approval.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Judiciary_Subcommittee_on_Crime,_Terrorism,_Homeland_Security_and_Investigations

>>33601853
this.
it's really not going anywhere. there's no impetus to do so. i think suppressors should be totally unregulated, (though this bill would be a step in the right direction), but it's a pipe dream in that committee.

>>33591096
What part of the last 8 years gave you the impression that the GOP is capable of governing?

>>33602434
demoshits had senate majority up to 2014 and house majority up to 2011, but nice try, fagtron.

>>33600629
Uncompetitive. There are a few established manufacturers who don't have to worry about being threatened by competition from smaller shops that may undercut the prices they set because of all the regulation bullshit on the both the supply and consumer side that artificially shrinks the market.

>>33599533
look at half the posts in this thread. it shills reposting the same unfunded bullshit and misinformation they always post.

>>33601781
>cuck """logic"""

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>>33603433
>The idiot still thinks it's an insult!

Guess what, you and your ilk only think it's an insult because that's where your insecurities lie.

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>>33599533
That's bullshit and you know it.

If he's so concerned about terrorism, why not Saudi Arabia. You know, where Osama Bin Ladin and nearly all of the 9/11 hijackers were from.

>>33603847
t. cuck

>>33603885
You're only reinforcing my point.

>>33603882
>believing Osama did 911

>>33603882
>pissing off the most powerful country in the middle east, and the only one outside of jewkistan that can be considered an ally
this is why you're a shitposting retard and not a politician.

>>33603892
did your wife give you permission to be on the computer for this long, cuckmeister?

>>33603902
Truther retards...

>>33603903
Hey, he banned travel from a bunch for no reason except to make his rabid fanbase happy.

>>33603915
Awwww, it's so cute how insecure you are in your sexuality that you think I care about your stupid opinion.

Because the republicans are only pro gun because it allows them to be opposition to the democrats.

>>33603943
>i'm so sexually liberated that my wife fucks other men!
lmao

>>33603988
Every time you open your little cockholster to brandish your little non-insult you just make yourself and those like you look dumber.

>>33594150
I didn't know he extended the use of US military force into more nations than any other president because the GOP didn't let him sign bills he wanted.

I didn't know he wasted over a billion dollars on the ACA website because the GOP told him to make his personal friends in charge of the project

>>33604066
[citation needed]

>>33604002
>cuck and proud

>>33604107
Not even, but it's just hilarious how desperate you are to defend your non-existent machismo by attacking that of better men than you.

>>33604141
>cucks
>men
>better men than anyone at that
lmao

>>33604164
>Implying you've yet to call anyone who actually participates in the cuckoldry fetish
>Implying you're not just a pathetic man-child afraid of being seen as unmanly

>>33604089
http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/23/politics/countries-obama-bombed/index.html

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-09-24/obamacare-website-costs-exceed-2-billion-study-finds
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/23/politics/obamacare-sebelius-interview/index.html

>>33604089
>>33604354
fucking rekt. note how the tard doesn't even attempt to respond.

>>33597303
sure, once we have a real libertarian. not republican lite AnCaps or Aleppo Johnson.

>>33591096
Maybe its because guns are bad mmkay

>>33605281
kill yourself

>>33596636
>Different person, and I'm not wrong.

If you're claiming that DARPA was an insignificant factor in the existence of the internet then you are objectively wrong and you need to educate yourself.

>>33599295
Kek

>>33606096
I was the one pointing out that the web as we know it couldn't exist without everything DARPA built first.

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>>33592195
>>33592218
Woah woah WOAH there kids, let's settle down now. Use the purple words in English class instead

>>33606247
>willis shit
>>>/trash/

>>33606138
>I was the one pointing out that the web as we know it couldn't exist without everything DARPA built first.

Then why did you reply defensively to me quoting your post to that retarded teenager?

>>33593710
Literally a week ago the secret president was Putin and before that it was Putin. If you try to keep up with liberal hysteria you're gonna have a bad time.

>>33606327
>Implying that's what was implied, and not that Kushner is being given far too much responsibility for being in an unofficial, non-cabinet position

>>33606289
>Willis
>shit

Fuck off newfag.

>>33603882
>why not Saudi Arabia.
because Saudi Arabia isn't a quasi failed-state like Libya, Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Somalia, nor is it's government's official motto "Death to America" like Iran.

Unfortunately thanks to cucks like you we can't just ban Muslims, so we have to come up with a plausible justification for a ban. Simply possessing a population of Muslim extremists is not adequate justification so long as the government officially supports us, if it were we'd have to ban half of Europe as well since they also have large populations of violent jihadists thanks to the assinine policies of religious "tolerance" from idiots like you.

Therefore we can't ban travel from Saudi Arabia.

>>33598952
Say it with me

MADAME
PRESIDENT

>>33591096
>>33591096
its a tack on bill that will be attached to a larger bill later. its bad for headlines in socialist controlled jewish liberal media to see "no healthcare, but ASSASSIN SILENCERS ARE NOW LEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" all over CNN

Good lord, so this is where the democrap shills got in, I saw you fuckers in the 'yote thread and knew something was wrong.

Shoo! Shoo! Go on now, git! We don't like your kind around these parts! You won't take away my guns you filthy commies!

>>33601781
>implying normies don't get fucking incensed if you imply their SO is fucking someone else, male or female
>implying actual cuckolds on reddit weren't whining and getting screencapped whining because of their pet name being used as an insult
>muh feminism

You're definitely a cuck.

>>33602434

The part where they ensured Merrick Garland will never sit on the Supreme Court, for starters.

>>33604180
>wanting to be the only man fucking your wife makes you a pathetic man-child

lmao.

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>>33592582
Mfw it'll be legal to put a suppressor on my AR10
Mfw it'll be illegal to put an A2 birdcage after 2018 on my AR10

Gotta love California

>>33593272
>>33597035
>the filibuster for court seats only has existed since 2003.
Do you guys have a source for that? Because I'm certain you're wrong.

I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the first *partisan* filibuster for a court seat in 2003, considering we've had SC nominations filibustered before (ie Fortas in '68) and I'd be more than willing to bet a fair few other seats.

>>33596670
A non-US citizen situated on non-US soil or non-US controlled lands does not have any US constitutional rights. The US could restrict immigration based on country of origin (we have), the views of immigrants (we have) or the race of the immigrants (we have). All would be Equal Protection violations if the would be immigrants had US constitutional rights-but they don't. The US could ban all black immigrants and a black man in Nigeria could not raise an Equal Protection claim.


Going back about 100 years, the Supreme Court has held that Congress' Article I powers on immigration are plenary i.e. they are complete and without qualifications. But that doesn't stop the Left from trying. In 1970 the US denied a visa to one Ernest Mandel- a Marxist scholar. Mandel was scheduled to speak at several US conferences and universities. The government denied his visa because there was a statutory exclusion against granting visas for aliens who promoted communism. In other words, the government had an immigration policy which favored those who had certain beliefs. This would have been a 1st Amendment violation if Mandel had 1st Amendment rights. But for the reasons I cited, he doesn't. But the people at the universities and conferences argued that their 1st Amendment rights were being violated because they were being denied the right to hear certain viewpoints (the Court had previously held the 1st Amendment protected the right to hear certain speech). The case made it to the Supreme Court (Kleindienst v. Mandel) The Court agreed that the plaintiff's 1st Amendment rights were infringed by the immigration policy, but they held that Congress' plenary powers on immigration are not restricted by an infringement of a 3rd party's 1st Amendment rights. Of course, here we are talking about freedom of religion where as in Kleindienst they were looking at freedom of speech. But that is a distinction without a difference-they are both 1st Amendment rights.

>>33606601
No, it's just the largest source of the extremist Muslim culture of the region because Wahhabiism is the state version of the religion and they push its beliefs to the rest of the region.

>Unfortunately thanks to cucks like you we can't just ban Muslims, so we have to come up with a plausible justification for a ban.
And thus you fail because you're working backwards. There has to be a legitimate cause for the ban first.

>>33606628
Wouldn't be as much of a shitshow.

>>33607724
>Racial/cultural discrimination versus a single individual because of his politics
Nice try.

>>33606784
>You're definitely a cuck.
>>33606799
So cute how weak you two are. Why are you so concerned about what others do in their bedrooms?

>The part where they ensured Merrick Garland will never sit on the Supreme Court, for starters.
Yeah, the Judge Republicans had nothing but praise for until he was picked by Obama, such a threat. Idiots.

>>33608137
Preventing terrorists from setting foot on American soil is legitimate justification enough.

>>33608174
>Implying refugees are terrorists
Maybe with the EU's "walk-in" immigration some might sneak in, but refugee visas are literally the worst way for someone with ill intent to enter the US. Doubly so when the travel ban prevented legal permanent residents from returning home.

The 9/11 hijackers came in mostly on tourist visas.

>>33608139
fuck off, shill.

>>33608728
Not an argument.

>>33608746
not a human

>>33608820
>Hurr durr durr
t. Trumpsucker