Are wheeled IFVs better than tracked ones?

>Shoot tires with .50

>Cant go anywhere

Tracked is infinitely better in every way

Wheeled is more economical
Tracked is more protected

Cue shitposting

>>33584445
muh runflats

>>33584445
>shot one tyre
>there's still 7 tyres left

Don't suppose you know that a modern 8*8 ifv could limp itself back to base with just 4 functioning wheel left

Meanwhile a tracked IFV is basically useless when one of its track is blown to pieces

>>33584417
>8x8 IFV
>heavier than a T-55
good luck with mud

>>33584452
>More economical

That's putting it lightly. The Boxer curbstomps tracked IFVs like the Brad and Gavin in range and speed.

>>33584417
Depends on the terrain.

>>33584464
>tyre

Leave

>>33584417
Better, if you have existing roads, weak bridges and plenty of places to hide. They're not meant to replace tanks 100% but do tank-like work where tanks are overkill or too expensive to deploy.

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>>33584545
While also being 4t heavier and bigger

>>33585236
also good for hard ground. for the aussies the boxer would be a replacement for the aslav so it just has to do most of what it can

>>33584545
>Gavin
Nice try, Sparky

>>33584417
Tracked systems are simpler thus overall cheaper, and offer more surface area thus generally better on soft surfaces.

Wheels are better at everything else.

>inb4 shoot wheels
Most Run flat tires run at the same speed as the top speed of most tracked vehicles. And they run long enough for you to reach help or whatever else.

The reason tracks are used on all tanks is because ground pressure, also why tracks are able to carry more. A tire with similar pressure would be heavier and bigger.

So anyway long story short. Depends on the use of the vehicle. I think apcs should be all wheels at this point, but ifvs I'm not sure.

>>33584417

>left = 5'11"
>right = 6'2"

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>>33584417
>Are wheeled IFVs better than tracke-

>>33585283
A LAV-25 is half the weight of a brad, has longer range and is faster :)

>>33585354
boomerang

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>>33585354

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>>33585432
Boomerang is an APC. And yes, tracked IFV is the only way to go.

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>>33585354
>>33585437

>>33585793
How tall is this thing?

>>33585095
Sorry that this guy actually knows how to spell correctly.

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>>33584417

>>33585797
underrated

>>33585945
They have hudraulics and switches. TFW six wheel motion.

>>33586002

I thought we were getting new tracked AND wheeled vehicles, CV40 for tracked?

>>33586095

*CV90

>>33584545
>Gavin
RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>33584417
Compleatly depends on your doctrine, what combat situation you are in and where you live.

There is no such as "best in every scenario"

>>33584511
>30 ton tracked IFV

Enjoy beeing late to the battle

>>33584417
FWIW even the Israelis are going wheeled with their M113 replacement.

>>33584445
>obligatory response
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyrDV-D1bLY

>>33586176
/thread

>>33584545
I would love to see how a ~40 ton Boxer actually handles soft ground.

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>>33585397
with 3/4 of the crew, 1/3 of the weight, 2/3 of range and a lower STANAG class than the Boxer. Boxer wins every time :)

>>33586293
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDF2hfGzc8A&feature=youtu.be&t=20s

Dandy

>>33586327
I wasn't trying to one up the Boxer, was just saying there are wheeled IFVs way lighter than Brads and Gavins that are still more efficient and fast.

Good fucking luck in soft terrain.

>>33586343
You don't need to try to challenge the Boxer, the Boxer wins by existing, the Boxer's existence is winning. It wins all the time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVxQJchCbnU

>>33586343
>Gavins
Why do you do this

>>33586343
Stop using the term Gavin, ffs

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>>33585945
Pretty tall. It's either a low profile or good mine resistance, you can't have both.

>>33585793
that thing looks like its going to tip over any minute now.

did russians adopt the stryker technology?

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http://www.combatreform.org/m113combat.htm

Gavins are simple the best armored fighting vehicles, therefore tracked ones are best, but I'd say Gavins are best of all tracked vehicles then or now.

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>>33586633
IDK looks pretty stable to me.
>did russians adopt the stryker technology?
Two decades before the Stryker itself.

>>33586651
Shitty bait. Sparky pls go.

>>33586651
i've always wondered, was this made by some guy who makes diaperporn pics? the drawing style and colors are the same

GAVIN
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>>33585793
>has a 30mm cannon
>APC

>>33586328
That isn't particularly noteworthy mud and that isn't one of the heavy variants of the Boxer.

>>33585236
>Where tanks are too expensive or overkill

Literally not the purpose or role of an INFANTRY FIGHTING VEHICLE. It's role is directly supportive of dismounted operations, helping to facilitate their mission success. Tanks lack the capacity to transport soldiers.

>>33586669
Sparky is a furfag. He calls himself Blacktail and has a presence on Deviantart.
So yes.

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>>33586693

>>33586679
>hurr durr all APCs are IFVs
Oh god, not this retard again, have sage and stay ignored.

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>>33586693
fucking knew it

>>33586438
The Boxer for the Australian version uses the Lance Turret as well right?
Will it use the 35mm like the Lynx?

>>33586651
>troops are so stupid they need to be reminded what temperature is freezing

jesus

>>33586818
No is will have a 30mm Mauser canon because that's 50% more boom for the same amount of space

>>33586624
That thing reminds me of a Space Mahreen Rhino

>>33586651
Whaty are those soldiers so faggy looking?

It's not so much about the overall offroad capability of wheels

It's about stuff like fording a river or climbing the banks around one.
All it takes is a short strip of land that the wheels can't pass, then you have to go on massive detours

Which is why all vehicles in the military should be tracked.

Including the logistics vehicles

>>33586343
LAV-25 is a reconnaissance vehicle, not an IFV

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>>33588351

Rhino is an M59.

>>33584550
Get out of here with your common sense.

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>>33588559
BMO-T.

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>>33589172

Still too small, let's go bigger.

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>>33589306
B I G G

>>33589330
woah what the fuck si this and why is it not our modern troop transport

>>33584445
>Have tracks
>Turn to hard in mud
>Throw track need a crane

>>33586862
Not as stupid as calling 0 Fahrenheit freezing point.

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>>33586095
yes but they're all still in testing

i'd put money on the boxer + lynx combo desu

>>33584545
Bradley has similar level of KE protection plus ERA. Boxer only has KE protection STANAG level IV.

>>33586624
Adopting it would be disaster. Russians would be literally breaking legs trying to jump from its roof.

If air tires are too vulnerable to damage and tracks can be thrown, why not just use metal cog tires with solid rubber covers? Just put more springs in the suspension.

>>33593556
but ERA is bolt on. you could put ERA on literally anything

>>33593513
Anyone know what those optics are?

>>33586708
>cannon and AT missiles to support troops
How is it not an IFV?

>>33590641

M75 APC, Was fuckhueg and used in Korea. Was replaced by the smaller M59, which itself was replaced by the smaller still M113.

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>>33594400

Redact that, that is an M44 which came before the M75.

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>>33594028
Elcan Specter DR

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>>33593575
Nigga you what?

>>33593823
>implying with additonal 5 tons bolted on Boxer can leave paved roads

>>33592301
>Have wheels
>Drive slowly in mud.
>Sink to hull and need a crain.

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>>33596523

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>>33584417
No

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>>33597599
Nigga u dum? They ride on it because it's cramped and uncomfortable to get out from, neither of which is the case with Boomerang.

>>33597738
Nah man they sit on the side to catch rpg's,

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>>33597803
But that's wrong you fucking retard, and they don't even sit on the sides. Try harder.

>>33597873
Nah man they sit on the side to be able to quickly dismount an react to threats. it's a different doctrine. Dont be so butthurt ivan.

>>33598417
That's what I said and it has nothing to do with the doctrine. Don't be an autist shitposter.

>>33598497
Hey man chill out. Your vehicles are inferior, thats no secret. but you've made real progress the past few years. keep it up and you might be able to role with the big boys.

what sort of suspensions are on wheeled IFVs? independent on them all? solid axles (lol)?
a wheeled vehicle with dogshit suspension will always lose to a tracked one

>>33598526
>Mad nigger resorts to clownery after getting rekt in an argument
Stay mad.

>>33586633
>that thing looks like its going to tip over any minute now.

It really doesn't.

I suggest having your brain checked for defects.

>>33586651

>Shitbox
>Anygood

Just stop, pls. The shitbox makes the MTLB look good.