why didn't you guys tell me this was such shit? should've bought a PPK
>>33572732
Dumbass
>holds at least 15 rounds of 9mm
>has been made in the past 14 years
>can actually find holsters and sight options for
These were the prerequisites you were supposed to have you memelord.
>ever considering a PPK
Get a Glock 42 if you insist.
>>33572766
What is /k/ stance on 9mm vs .45ACP?
>>33572786
There are good guns that shoot all the major service calibers. There are minor differences among the ballistics profiles of 9mm, .40 and .45, but the most significant differences for most people are going to be a) shootability of a particular gun and b) capacity.
I like the USP40 Compact and the USP45, but I hate shooting the Shield 40 and the Glock 21 doesn't really impress me. On the other hand, I've never met a 9mm pistol I didn't like to shoot.
>>33572732
>ITT: no one notices OP posted a literal bb gun
>>33572856
>4.5 mm BB
Almost as effective as actual 9x18.
>>33572732
Why is it such a meme? I don't think a lot of people would tell you it's a good option for carry. It's a surplus collectable gun that's cheap and only worth it if you think it's cool. A PPK, new production is twice the price of a Makarov and is actually a decent option for carry. Collectable PPKs are worth even more than that. Hardly the same league other than the fact that they're similar in design. Also the market for Makarovs is pretty much fixed so you can sell it at little to no loss.
>>33572732
turn your trip back on Leon, I know it's you.
>>33572786
9mm is great for killing illiterate nignogs on the mean streets of Los Angeles, but the .45 is clearly superior for any real combat application.
Makarovs are stolen German designs, this thread is rightful deutsch clay
>>33572905
If you don't think that half of this board legitimately suggests the Makarov for concealed carry, you're so fucking new it hurts
>>33572896
And much more effective than .32 cal of PPK.
>>33575232
>If you don't think that half of this board legitimately suggests the Makarov for concealed carry, you're so fucking new it hurts
This. I've had multiple arguments from makrov-shills talking about how good a Makarov is as a carry gun, at 350 dollars.
That sunk cost.s They have makarovs, they fell for the meme, and you will to, so they can feel better about themselves.
>>33575232
Wow fuck, you never give up.
>>33575275
Makarov was a good CC option when they were like $140 tops. Even then defensive ammo wasn't a thing (and don't tell me Hordany making ONE load for it makes it relevant.)
>>33575306
they make two separate versions of critical defense
one normal HP at like 900fps, and one of those odd HPs with the rubber in the middle at 1000fps
my p64 runs at nearly 1200fps with the heavier slide spring
most people in florida are not going to be wearing layers of jackets
its a perfect SOUTHERN CC
(i traded a non matching hex mosin for it, this thing is nearly mint with a good bore)
i would like an actual makarov though
protip: the p64 doesnt have a fully supported barrel, dont run PPU ammo in it, they bulge like mother fuckers
Is there a surplus handgun that isn't shit? I have a Walther P1 and can only manage a 4.5 inch group at 10 yards. The P30 can overlap holes.
With surplus long guns you get value. for example the K31 is a $300 1 +- .5 MOA rifle
>>33575292
There's no fight to have, you've already lost.
>>33575363
If you can only get 4.5" at 10 yards you need a new barrel or more practice. They're so accurate its unbelievable.
>>33575349
But at the current price that I see them for at the local fun stores and on ATFlist as well as classic/SOG, I can grab a trade in .40 Glock, or a new PT111, or a brand new LCP 9mm. I was looking at the P64 but from the two that I fired, the trigger is... Bleh for me.
They're fun shooters nonetheless.
>>33575232
Please consider suicide
>>33575275
Please consider suicide
>>33575363
M92s. They're like $280.
Basically get an M9 with a heal release and a better rounded trigger guard.
>>33575381
Yea that's a valid point, they're going crazy in price.
I also changed my trigger, my DA is now like 18lbs instead of 30lbs and my SA i think is close to 4lbs
its MUCH better
but i keep forgetting these are getting memed up in price
>>33572732
>why didn't you guys tell me this was such shit?
Because it's not.
>should've bought a PPK
More like a PP. P-64 and PA 63 are PPK clones.
>>33572905
>Not getting the most aesthetic pea shooter
>>33575232
Nah nigga
>>33575232
>>33575497
Forgot pic
>>33575232
>muh fake P38k
>>33575497
>>33575503
Cute, but everything I said was correct
>>33575512
>muh red herring
its too bad slavfags know they don't even have an argument
my east german makarov shoots wonderfully.