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>>33570289
Girst

finally, first range day in about 5 months tomorrow.

>>33570006
Accept my friend request and I'll give you a new link.

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Fourth for go donate to Mad Max and help free yourself.

>>33570337
I know that feeling.

Finally got to sight in my Garand last week after building it late summer. Work has been so killer that I only had time to go for a quick plink with the 10/22 and hope the cops doing carbine training don't notice I have an unpinned butler creek mag.

>>33570337
Taking my dad for a range day tomorrow. I haven't gotten to much with him for a while so I'm sure we'll both have a lot of fun.

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Bump so that it doesn't die

>>33570337
Same here. I bought a scope last summer and I still haven't zeroed it because of school commitments.

God damn guys, I'm getting really bummed out by the rapid rate of disappearing milsurp. Newer stuff just doesn't have the same allure to it.

>>33572342
industry is dead, just like this thread

>>33572342
i want a k31... missed the boat.

>>33573062
I bought 300 rounds GP11 then waited too long to get the gun. Not paying $800+ now. Hopefully I can trade the ammo for some .303 or 8mm mauser locally.

Someone post the pics of the type 81 with the light coloured wood

Pretty sex

>>33573062
>>33573082
exact same boat. have a case of gp11, but no gun. the only k31 at the edmonton gun show was $800

>>33572342
>Governments don't sell their milsurp anymore and instead toss perfectly functioning firearms into a furnace
It's a bad feel.

>>33573062
Yeah tell me about it. They seem to be $800+ on the cheap end of things these days, and they sell in seconds on CGN.

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Cheap 5.56 alert. Just bought 3 cans.

https://www.gotenda.com/shop/ammunition/rifle-ammo/american-eagle-5-56-nato-xm193-55gr-fmj-120can/

>>33570289
So how do we go about voting for O'Leary? Wait, O'Leary is the guy we want for the Conservative Party, right? The pro-guns guy who will un-cuck Canada? I'm going to vote Conservative so fucking hard in the next election... not that I've ever NOT voted Conservative, mind you.

>>33576125
Is this bait

>>33576171
yes, it's total bait

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>>33576125
I didn't have an anime face quite good enough so I had to go into my tapestry folder.

>>33576171
>>33576181
>>33576209
Quit bitching about bait and learn me how to help the Conservative Party.

Anyone know where I can find some good but cheap surplus clothing? I'm looking to grab some for hiking/camping but all the surplus stores I've visited around Toronto/Durham are way overpriced

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>>33576553
On your ballot, you list Bernier > O'Toole , Scheer, and nobody else.

Why Max Bernier?

Policy highlights:
Lower all income tax, scrap capital gains tax, CRTC, federal carbon tax.
Eliminate all corporate welfare, nationalize airports and Canada Post.
Reduce immigration, end relation with UN for refugee selection.
Double the length of firearms licenses from 5 to 10 years.
Reclassify firearms: Non-restricted = any semi-auto with overall length >26".
Reclassify firearms through law in Parliament instead of the RCMP or cabinet.
Repeal magazine size restrictions.

CCFR Approved, Highest Grade for all CPC Leadership candidates
https://firearmrights.ca/en/ccfr-report-cards-cpc-leadership-election/

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god damnit. 55 minute drive to the fucking range, only to be turned away at the door because no walk-ins cause a bunch tourists and fuckhead fratboy douchenozzles booked a bunch of appointments.

anyone know if silverdale has started clearing the waiting list backlog yet? they were supposed to start contacting people first week of april.

>>33577576
what place turned you away?

also, I believe Silverdale started taking on its wait list back in Feb/March.

>>33577605

urban tactical in brantford.

>>33577576
Why don't you literal cucks get memberships at ranges that only allow members? Not a circus where you will probably get shot by accident by some drunk 19 year old that doesn't even have his pal.

>>33577625
Silverdale isn't much further and a day pass is $20 over UT's $50.

What's the appeal of UT as a non member?

>>33577651

UT will let me bring my restricted as a non-member. silverdale management can be cuntish at times, and won't recognize my old ATT from urban cause they don't run a "handgun safety course", so they won't let me bring my shit or shoot handgun matches.

>>33577650

what part of waiting list did you not understand. nobody in fucking southern ontario is accepting, and i don't have the dosh to drop $500 for a year at UT when i barely get out of enough as it is.

>>33577743
Last time I was at Silverdale they told me they're cool with non-members bringing restricted rifles, just not handguns.

guessing you're a non-member at UT too, whats the procedure there for bringing restricteds?

>>33577815

show up, sign waiver, give dosh, shoot gun.

>>33577876
no pistol course bullshit? heard otherwise. good to know.

>>33576125
Obvious bait, but O'Leary is anti-gun Liberal plant douchebag. He shouldn't even be on your ballot.

>>33577882

nope, at least not that i am aware of, i never had to go through one, which is why i am in this predicament to begin with.

>>33577964
>which is why i am in this predicament to begin with.
shouldn't surprise anyone that ranges open both non-members and the non-licensed public should be avoided at all costs on weekends.

>>33577650
I'm thinking of getting a membership at EOSC in Ottawa for this very reason. Stittsville lets any dickhead show up, their hours suck and it's like $600 a year for full membership

>>33577548
Thank you! For Christ's sake, a Canadian comes forward finally ready to look into this Conservative voting thing, ends up saying the WRONG fucking name, and you get shat on from a great height!

Anyways, how/where do I get the ballot to vote Bernier. I'll be sure to vote Bernier.

>>33577933
No, you idiot. It's not bait, it's a moron. It's ignorance. I did not know, but now I do. Jesus Christ, how thin-skinned are you fucks? Someone makes a mistake and everyone starts screaming "BAIT! BAIT! IT'S BAIT!" Yeah I'm Canadian, yeah I've been frequenting /k/ on and off for about 6+ years, but I haven't been keeping up with the politics ever since Trudeau j.r. happened. By the way, I voted CONSERVATIVE in that election, so I did my fucking part.

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praise my rifle

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>>33578159
It will be sent in the mail some time in May I believe

now it's your turn to redpill as many people as possible before then

I'm in Montreal for the next 6 days for work but I have tomorrow off. I flew up here so nogunz. What do?

>>33578222
Montrealfag here.
What kind of stuff are you looking for

Serious question, do you guys feel uncomfortable disclosing your hobbies to nogunz, for example to your coworkers or students in college?

There's such a stigma around it that I basically evade the issue and just say I like anime and card games.

>>33577964
The ATT course is no big deal. Sit in a room for part of the day with 6 other bored guys, shoot a couple of hundred rds and pay $65. then no more bullshit. You only have to do it once.

>>33578159
Ballot comes in mid-May. 10 slots for 14 choices, you rank your #1 choice at the top and work your way down. You don't have to fill all the slots, and anyone you don't add into the ballot is guaranteed not to get your vote no matter what. As the lower voted candidates are eliminated the people who voted for them as their number 1 choice will have their vote given to their second choice.

>>33578291
I generally just don't bring it up, but I'm honest if someone asks me. I have had some long conversations with both co-workers and fellow students about guns.

>>33578364
Does our vote get invalidated if we write/draw profanities next to O'Leary's entry?

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>>33578159
>I've been frequenting /k/ for 6 years
Bullshit, you write like you should fuck off to reddit where you came from.

>>33578382
No, I don't think so, but it's not really necessary either. Better safe than sorry.

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>>33578211
Thanks. Believe me, I've been trying to redpill people to the Conservatives for a long time. I remember the days leading up to the first time I voted, I was telling people to vote Conservative. Probably only 18 years old. Then that non-confidence thing happened which I voted Conservative again for later and ended up with a Conservative Majority with the Liberal Party taking their biggest hit in ages! Good times! Then around 2012 I heard that the long gun registry was scrapped. GOD that felt good, felt like I helped improve the state of gun laws in Canada in a small way.

>>33578364
Looking forward to it. Bernier at #1, and if I even bother to vote for anyone else I'll make sure they're pro-gun as well. Hopefully none of them will be wanting to be anti-legalization though. I don't like Trudeau j.r., but I do think that legalising pot is a good call. It'll help our economy, and I just don't think that cannabis is something that should be criminalized. Up to 3 plants can be grown in a house? That's pretty freakin' sweet. I'm not a stoner anymore, but I think I'd enjoy growing a few pot plants just for fun.

>>33578417
Pic-related is one of many iron sight pics I took with the intention of putting them on /k/. I've never been to Reddit before, nor have I ever been to Tumblr. I don't even bother with Twitter and I must have deleted my Facebook account 7+ years ago.

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>>33578923
Fucking shit, it's one of the ones that don't have the time in the corner...

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>>33578291
>embarrassed to say he likes guns
>says he likes anime
yeesh bud.
just own up to it, its a fun hobby.

So is a Ruger 10/22 a good gun for someone who just got their PAL, and has only shot once or twice? I get the idea behind it, its cheap, the ammo is cheap, and that will allow me to work on my marksmanship, etc, etc. But I have a lot of interest in milsurp rifles.

Would you recommend waiting on getting milsurp rifles until I've shot a 10/22 for a while, and am somewhat accurate with it?

>>33579442
I'm not usually one for paint jobs, but that's fucking sexy.

>>33579676
10/22 is a perfectly fine place to start. Another great starter rifle is SKS, and costs close to the same too, maybe a bit cheaper even. Recoil isn't too bad unless maybe you're an 8 year old girl.

>>33579676
Personally I'm not huge on the "start with a 22" thing.
Just don't get a cartridge that's too heavy to start and in all likelihood you'll be perfectly fine.

>>33579756
>>33579740
Alright yea, I was thinking that I would just go for an SKS because I figured I get one eventually anyway. I've shot both a 22 and SKS, the 22 was like a toy.

>>33578291
I go to university of victoria and ive had no one ibe mentioned it to have issues at all. Most are curious. Guns are getting a hipsteresque rep which most people are fine with.

>>33578163
>buys $900 rifle, spends $200 on a scope.

I dont get it.

>>33578222
CRAFM.

>>33580509
>I dont get it.
It's perfectly fine for my use.
I'm gonna get a better one when a 300+ yard range opens not far from here so never.

>>33579818
my first rifle was an SKS and it was easy to learn on, just be safe and clean it well when you first get it.

>>33579676
10/22's are still in production, old milsurp rifles aren't. If you're planning on starting a milsurp collection, sooner is better.

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Hey guys, I'm currious about the KelTec Sub 2000 in 9mm. I already own an SKS and an SVT, and I'm wondering if this rifle is worth getting. Will i get bored shooting 9mm after shooting bigger rounds?

Is it reliable?
Is it fun to shoot?
Does anyone own one personally?

All opinions are welcome

>>33579818
>>33580590
That pretty much covers it. Cheap, cheap ammo, simple, recoil is far from punishing, just make sure you clean the fucker and you're good to go. Or, if you want to go straight to big-boy stuff, get an M91/30, but anticipate a bruised shoulder after your first few range trips. Believe me; it hurts so good... but yeah, SKS is probably overall the best starter rifle in Canada provided you're not an 8 year old girl. Just remember to focus on accuracy. Fuck speed. In fact, if you can muster the self-discipline, after you crank out a few mags worth of rapid-fire to get it out of your system, start loading one round at a time. Line up the sights, steady your breathing, slooooowly squeeeeeze the trigger, and just see what you're capable of in terms of accuracy. Don't get in the habit of shooting like a Yank where you just chuck lead in the general vicinity of what you're pointing your rifle at. A good Canadian gun owner will hone their accuracy rather than their ability to control rapid-fire recoil.

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>>33580733
>A good Canadian gun owner will hone their accuracy rather than their ability to control rapid-fire recoil.
You're goddamn right.

>>33570337
I know that feeling.

However I'm also waiting for a good day to take my VT1300CRA out for a long ride.. fucking snow and sub-10*C days, go away.

>>33580711
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/megraphs/9mm.html

9x19 out of a carbine hits pretty damn hard. More than adequate for 'yotes or long-pig. Folding for storage is convenient, it uses 10 round pistol mags of various makes and the sights are much nicer on the newer models. The charging handle is a bit weird, but workable. Reviews are pretty damn positive across the board.

>>33580733
>>33580752
Hell yeah.

>>33580752
christ that """comic""" is fucking stupid.

A 10/22 will shoot straight right out of the box, and ammo is as cheap as it gets also an abundance of different types.

The sks you will want to get a front sight tool, It will need to be sighted it. Ammo is expensive to buy in store unless you want to drop 300$ for a surplus crate. (you can order smaller quantities of surplus online or in some stores) It's a great gun and almost essential for any Canadian.

This all being said, I own both guns, infact I bought them at the same time as my first guns. If you spend lots of time at the range and want to shoot for really cheap and have something brand new and clean 10/22. If you are mostly at gravel pits, don't care that you will have to tune it in or might need a higher cal to try to bag a deer in the fall, then sks. But really just go buy both.

>>33580856
Learn to take a joke eh

>>33580896
you're the joke for unironically saving and posting that.

>>33580907
I remembered it existed and looked for it on jewgle, see filename.

At least explain what's your beef with it and why you take it that seriously.

>>33580925
the myth that canadians could/would sustain any sort of viable insurgency against invasion to the extent that americans would.

then there's the inclusion of tim hortons, a franchise that went to shit a long time ago. then the over done "overly apologetic canadian" meme.

the whole thing is devoid of any humorous or clever ideas.

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>>33578923
>picture of gun apparently confirms you browse k
>nothing with thread number/board
>easily photoshopped date
Wow sure got me newfag

>>33581003
You've got a point, but still, chill. Also somebody should give me a quick rundown of Timmy's foreign worker controversy.

>>33581003
This is some next level autism

>>33577548

This anon is correct.

>>33581003
The comic is from 2013, prior to the BK purchase.

Is this true? I got it from wiki

"With the exception of the Ruger BX-25 25 round magazine, there is no limit to the magazine capacity for semi-automatic rim-fire rifles or manually-operated rifles or shotguns"

I have a Ruger 10/22 and have a BX25. My barrel is also only 18" is that legal?

>>33581752
What wiki, also no 10/22 is fucked to 10 rounds all around due to the ruger charger pistol.

Also barrel length requirements for rifles is centerfire semi auto. So rimfire semi auto just have to meet +26" OAL to be NR.

>>33581752
BX25s are prohib devices, better hide your doggo.

>>33581778
>What wiki
wikipedia. I'm in Alaska and have to cut through Canada to get to other parts of Alaska.

>So rimfire semi auto just have to meet +26" OAL to be NR.

So it has to be 26" in total length and have to use the stock 10 round magazine?? I've seen the customs people pull out tape measures but wasn't really sure what they were doing.

>>33581814
>seen the customs people pull out tape measures but wasn't really sure what they were doing.
It's ok they don't know what they're doing either. Aside from being forced to do the boring ass training course we all do.

>>33581844
When I declared my 30.06 they wrote on the Canadian form it was 22 1/2 inches. When we hunt Moose we see a lot of ptarmigan and the whole time I was thinking if I only had my .22.

can i own a ak47 in canada?

>>33577548
Didn't O'toole get the NFA shillcard, while trashing Max at the same time?

>>33578159
If you did not get CPC membership before the deadline you don't get a ballot in the mail to vote for the a candidate. You will have to vote for the Federal elections to make a difference. Deadlines passed to ge CPC membership to vote.

>>33581916
Yes.

>>33581958
legally?

>>33582006
Yes.

>>33582029
i thought that canada was a cuked version of usa.

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>>33581916
The Valmet is a NR Kalashnikov variant. You'd be looking at >$4000 though.

>>33582051
It has to be a specific model of Valmet rifle that is no longer in production, though. Artificial scarcity has driven up the costs of what was already among the most expensive AK variants to levels that most wouldn't be able to justify.

>>33582076
why cant it be in production?

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Just got these at the Richmond Gun Show near Ottawa.

$65 for the 10 round box magazine
$15 for 3 stripper clips
$50 for 40 rounds of .303

Howd I do?

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>Tell me your secrets, artifact

>>33582103
The company that produced them doesn't really exist anymore. Their name was purchased by another company, but they don't produce guns. IIRC, they make industrial equipment.

>>33582198
but can i import from russia or something?

>>33582246
Yeah, though dealing with another country's export laws can be a PITA.

>>33582256
no prob, i love aks, would let even putin fuck me over one

>>33582246
Import russian Ak's no, importing other Russian firearms is a no go due to Ukraine embargo's, but that could change at any time.

>>33582314
buy from other warsaw pact countrys then

>>33582246
IIRC only the M78 Valmet, the M78 sporter, and the M78 hunter models are legal AK variants, and they have to have been made by the Finnish Valmet company. Otherwise, if it's an AK it's banned.
>Note that VZ58s, Type 81s, and SKSs are perfectly legal
>Also note that the SVD is legally considered an AK variant (it was named as such in the Order In Council that prohibited AKs), as are most semi automatic .22lr look-a-likes built to models AKs.

>>33582126
where 2 cop balaclava that isnt shit?

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>>33582366
>Type 81

H Y P E

>>33582617
Any sports store?

Will putting scopes on all my guns cure me of my terrible marksmanship?

>>33582735
Only if they're $2k scopes.

>>33582735
Somewhat, it will however increase the range you are terrible at.

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>>33582637
Should I get own if I already own a vz58?

Just got my rpal a couple weeks ago, any recommendations for an affordable safe? Live in a relatively crime free neighborhood in an apartment

>>33582775
I own an SKS and a VZ58. If I wasn't angling for a K31, I'd be seriously considering one right now TBQH.

>>33582775
>>33582832
even if there are some QC issues, think you could still resell to no loss or at a profit?

since there's only one production run scheduled right now, and it would take years (evidently) to schedule another. what ever batch is brought it will be the only ones for the foreseeable future.

that is my only dilemma to preordering right now Tbh. Plus I can see them bumping up the preorder price at least once before they're brought in.

>>33582783

Just a pistol safe? These are cool.

https://www.amazon.com/Sentry-Safe-Quick-Access-Cubic/dp/B00A75EVJO

>>33582921
Thanks m8, rifle safe though

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>>33582832
I own a SKS, vz58 and K31.
Feels good man.

I'm doing the application for rpal and there are two spots for references, I got a couple questions. First do I actually need two references or is one enough and second must they sign the application themselves or can i leave that blank? I just moved and my references are six hours north ;_;

>>33582907
Honestly i don't believe Tactical Imports when they say theres only 1 production run. I would not be surprised if it was just a ploy on their part for more pre-orders.

>>33582907
Quite frankly it wouldn't surprise me to see them on CGN next day at $1500. Regardless of quality, until the next batch comes in they'll probably hold value pretty well I'd expect.
>>33582978
Damnit son, I'm dying for a K31.

>>33582983

Yeah dude you have to complete the whole application: two references with signatures.

You can mail them the applications to fill out and sign if you have to.

>>33582996
OK thanks, guess things are gonna be a bit slower than expected, no biggie though.

>>33583008
You could ask buddy 1 to mail it direct to buddy 2. Or hand deliver if they're close together and/or know each other.

>>33582989
>Honestly i don't believe Tactical Imports when they say theres only 1 production run.

I believe them because it makes sense that the thing has been delayed this long because there was a minimum order quantity that TI had not fulfilled, and the manufacturer wanted them produced alongside a military order of non-civilian models which is scheduled for this summer.

Doing business with chinks is not easy and I can see similar delays of 1-2 years for another order.

are the 1500 packs of chinese 7.62x39 surplus any good?

how many dead rounds should i expect, if any?

>>33583374
Bumping for info, it's the best bang for buck I've seen for 7.62x39

>>33583374
0. I've shot nothing but chinese surplus and have had literally 3 dead rounds in my life. I think cabelas has a sale on right now too.

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What's the best NR home defense gun for the average joe? Something compact, reliable, easy to use, and powerful, for a reasonable price. I'm thinking a chink shotgun like pic could be the answer.

>>33578291
Not uncomfortable at all! I talk openly about it & by doing that it helps show that it's a perfectly normal & healthy hobby/sport. This helps combat the national Mountie/CPA propaganda. :^) We're being demonized & I don't like it.

Quite often even a casual mention will cause other firearms enthusiasts to open up & reveal themselves. I've discovered many co-workers who are gunnutz in their own right but I never knew it until the conversation rolled around to that topic.

It's also an opportunity to encourage more ownership. For example, we had a guy at work who constantly regurgitated the same anti-gun BS we're all familiar with. Nice guy but the anti-gun diatribe was getting to be a little much. The breaking point was when he saw me looking at G3 porn on hkpro & claimed they were weapons of mass destruction. lol. ok.. asked him to explain how they were more dangerous than say a 30.06. He was silent. I joked that he hated them because they were black so he must be a racist. Turns out he's never fired a gun.

Well..! That's all we needed to hear (btw, 9 of 12 of us are gun enthusiasts of varying degrees) so we arranged to have him come to the Nanaimo range for a few hours and we each brought different firearms (rifles, pistls, shotguns). I like to bring a few of my covetted M856 tracer rounds for the newbies because their eyes light up almost as bright (perhaps brighter!) when they see that red glow whipping downrange. hehheh!

When anti's see well behaved youth, families, and the friendly atmosphere, they are usually initially surprised & abandon their extremist viewpoint.

To end this long post (sorry..) the coworker got his PAL the following month. 2 months later he had more guns than any of us and was getting his hunting licence and looking into gunsmithing. We created a monster! hahaha!

That is just ONE of several examples i've experienced. I believe in being a good embassador to the FA community.

>>33583443

I do this too, and a coworker and her boyfriend recently went out and got their RPALs. I'm a pretty normal well adjusted guy so people don't freak out when I casually talk about going shooting.

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>>33583433
>home defense gun
Go hide your doggo immediately

>>33583433
Buy an 870 express (with wood) and throw a +2 tube extension and a light on it. Load it with 00 buck and tell the rcmp it was your burrd gun. When they confiscate it you're put 500$ tops.

>>33583433
Mossberg 500 with a short barrel and buckshot

>>33583443
Bless you dear saint! We shall erect a /k/ube in your likeness!

>>33583739
But it's more expensive than chink shit.

>>33583817
Because chink shit is chink shit.

How poor are you that you cant spend $350 on a reliable shotgun?

Buy a used one if its too rich for your blood. Chink guns suck ass.

>>33583836
>chink guns suck ass
I'm going to have to disagree on this one.

>>33583836
>Chink guns suck ass.
My complete and utter absence of issues with my chingchongtingtonglinglong M14 would like to have a word.

>>33583945
Are you m305 guy

>>33583988
n-no
maybe?
who is m305 guy

>>33584018
Do you live north of Regina m8?

>>33584025
No I'm a quebecnigger

>>33584036
Sad! We're looking for a guy who owns an M305 who lives north of Regina, and we connected with him but a ponyfag scared him off :(

M305 guy, if you're here, MAGAman wants to hang out sometime.

>>33584036
Aw shit. Wanna be friends anyway?

>>33583433
Not memeing here but isn't home defense with a gun illegal here in Soviet Dumbfuckistan?

>>33584092
sure famiglietti

>>33583836
mine fires fine, also link me to a short barrelled mossy 500 for 350 you hoser.

>>33583433
grizzlies are okay i would stick with a tube fed one though,the mags are hit and miss.

>>33584124
thats subjective,self defense just has to be moe justified and hope you don't get fucked rcmp or a libcuck judge.

>>33584180
Is it even possible to not get a shit judge?

>>33584124
>>33584180
even if it is justified prepare to get raped with an assortment of unsafe storage violations because you were able to get to your gun fast enough

>>33584199
Just live in a rural area and don't bother calling cops. Shovel required.

>>33584128
Are you in the discord?

>>33584199
Yeah I can see the Jewry in that for sure

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>>33584261
Nope
And the thing I hate the most about myself is my voice so I don't really do that

>>33584199
i dont get this one,i have a huntshield gun cabinet ,so my nr guns dont need to be locked ,it's just a key safe ,i just timed myself it took me 16 seconds to locate the key cross my room grab a shotgun and put a round next to the chamber,if i had brought the shells with me to the cabinet instead of leaving them at my desk and then going back to my desk and get them it would've been faster,16 seconds,rounding up.

>>33584287
Hey man if you're really interested in making friends, shoot me an email at [email protected]

>>33584370
>making friends with people on 4chan
>4chan
>.........
>i hope you dont do this thing that you are doing

>>33584422
I actually met one of my best friends through 4chan. Not even memeing.

>>33584261
Link?

>>33584471
Heres a burner email if you actually want to be friends. [email protected]

Why does everyone from the discord hate me?

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>>33584199
>>33584307
>Kill intruder
>Immediately after open up safe, make it look like you were just cleaning gun
>Do whatever else to save yourself from jail time

>>33584223
Is there any decent way to dispose of a body fast in rural areas? Holes get sniffed out. Purely hypothetically speaking of course.

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http://wwwtheprogress.com/news/418576923.html
Fuck, there goes my range day.
Heads up to any greater Vancouver kommandos the fuckers are at it again with more no shooting zones.

>>33581917
Fuck... yup... I goof'd it. Missed my chance. Well I hope Bernier gets it, and if he did then I'll most certainly be voting for him. If the other Liberal guy gets it, then I don't know, maybe I'll see what the NDP's stance is, or perhaps go full retard and vote Green Party. I hope Bernier gets in... damn it, I'd have looked into this shit earlier but there's A LOT of stuff going on in my life right now. I'm in a fucking homeless shelter!

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>>33583836
they knock together decent AR's actually.

I wouldn't trust my life with this piece of shit though, learned my lesson about unproven weaponry.

>>33585317
can't believe people who buy that aren't dissuaded immediately just by how objectively bad of a platform it is and its control layouts

>>33584180

>I barricaded myself in my study where my gun safe happens to be, and he kept banging on the door screaming "WHEN I GET IN THERE IM GOING TO KILL YOU!!"

>By the time he got through the door I had unlocked my safe and removed the 11 trigger and cable locks and was able to save myself

>>33585211

The NDP is full commie gun hating cucks, if you're remotely conservative or classically liberal, they have nothing to offer you. Even a CPC nightmare scenario is better than the NDP or the Liberals getting in.

Also I keep preaching this and I haven't got it yet, but getting legal defense insurance from a group like the CCFR is probably a good idea, it's like 90 bucks a year or something and if you have to light up some junkie who's trying to stab you, you'll get a lawyer.

>>33586118
>commie gun hating
commies love guns.
Just not in hands other than those of card carrying members of the party.

>>33586118
>The NDP is full commie gun hating cucks, if you're remotely conservative or classically liberal, they have nothing to offer you.
Except support for personal liberties and other civil rights. Oh wait, classical liberals don't give a fuck about them, only economic freedom.

Anyway, I'm just posting to say how absolutely fucking disappointed that the Vimy Memorial is going off today and there wasn't one single mention of it. Just the usual bullshit that I've come to hate.

>>33586705
You say that at noon EST on a Sunday, long before most people will bother to post on 4chan. So instead of just bringing it up to discuss it, you decide to bitch and moan that no one beat you to the punch.

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>>33586705
Except that classical liberals only care about personal liberties.

>>33583836
>>33583817
>>33583739
I bought a brand new maverick 88 "security" on sale for 190$ at wholesale sports around Christmas. Its only ever got hung up on cheap target loads. Its a great small shotgun 18'' barrel i believe. Buckshot runs through it smooth and never jams. Same with rifled slugs.

>>33585317
>>33586089

The T97 isn't quite as bad as people say, but they're definitely no Tavor. I owned one, and it was fairly well put together and made. I only got rid of it because I'm a left-handed retard and thought I could make it work.

I really liked the operating mechanism itself, very simple and robust. The STANAG conversion is a little janky, but works if you're willing to tweak it or run the right mags.

>>33580733
How weak are you that a M91/30 bruises your shoulder after firing? Or are you just shooting 100+ rounds a day out of it? Mosin recoil is light as fuck

>>33587662
He might also be shooting it prone.

>>33587521
What's the mechanism? Another AR180 clone?

>>33587867
Its actually a AK like tri-lug, long stroke gas piston.

>>33582112
Yikes
Here in the states I got 64 rounds of .303 for like $25 at a gunshow but they didn't come one stripper clips

>>33587521
>I only got rid of it because I'm a left-handed retard and thought I could make it work.
wew lad it's like they were made for us though.
Are you talking about brass tapping your nose if you shove your face forward? Just don't do that.

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>>33580509
You were right.
I stand corrected.

>>33588670

The brass wasn't a huge issue for me, though not insignificant. My biggest thing was the short length of pull....there was no way I was going to be able to graft on 3" more LOP practically in order to be comfortable shooting it all the time.

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>>33587867

They're striker-fired (with a very strange striker arrangement) with a 3 lug AK-ish bolt with a long stroke piston. Very simple, not a hell of a lot to go wrong.

Almost all the issues that T97's have are to do with the conversion to STANAG mags (instead of the QBZ's rock-and-lock). The magwells are tight, and the feed ramp/angle is....weird. The reason they're spotty with feeding is the height at which the feed lips sit. If you examine the mags they come with, they feed slightly higher than 'normal' AR ones.

The wide variance is what kicks you in the ass. Some rifles are fine, some are not.

So, if you fuck around with a file and improve the feed ramp, they work great. But It's pretty inexcusable EMEI hasn't fixed this. The magwell dimensions should have been nailed down years ago.

>>33584546
Shut up scuba.

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>>33589099
The trigger mech is absolute junk

>>33587662
>>33587758
When I go to the range, I never go with less than 100 rounds, and I never go with just one rifle or one type of rifle ammo. A hundred or so rounds of 7.62x54r and a hundred or so rounds of .303, plus a sprinkling of .30-06, maybe a bit of 8mm Mauser, and 7.62x39 for dessert, POSSIBLY when you haven't even been shooting rifles for a year yet... yeah, it's going to fucking bruise you, even a big, burly, 6' dude like me.

So what you're saying is, you sometimes go to the range with less than 100 rounds? Get a higher paying job or start fucking reloading; shameful stuff. I'm disappointed at you, /k/.

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>>33589099
>that tiny little nub instead of a recoil spring
I love those things for some reason, seem so space/cost efficient.

>>33589099
That's very clearly a short-stroke piston. See the green part in front of the BCG? They just extended the BCG that far forward because the charging handle is integrated into it.

>>33589099
Looks like a strange mix between short-stroke and long-stroke. Seems to me that they should have made the short-stroke piston longer and separate the charging handle bit from the bolt bit so that the charging handle can be non-reciprocating, but then again it wouldn't act as a forward assist in that instance. Still, I handled a QBZ-97 (5.56 chambering) once, and even though I'm thoroughly a traditionalist, I was surprisingly pleased by how it felt. I've also heard horror stories about bullpup triggers but found that one to be not bad!

>>33589147
That may be the case, but like I said, I found it to be not bad. To each their own I suppose.

>>33589183
The trigger is shit and the design makes it prone to failure. It's not my opinion it's the way it is. What's your metric for "not bad"

>>33582112
I went there. I must of missed that. Didn't see any good deals for me.

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>>33589179

That nub's a buffer, the usual recoil spring is present.

>>33589180

Agh, you're right. Disregard my retardation.
>>33589197

>Prone to failure

It's not a good design, but I've never heard of a single incident of trigger failure either. I'd give it a pass if you could actually get spare sear/trigger mechanisms to swap in, but you're shit out of luck when it comes to parts like that.


The trigger pull itself isn't horrific, but it's not good either. Medium weight with a ridiculously long take-up and overtravel. Better than a Tavor's stock trigger....but that's not saying anything.

>>33589183

I was impressed by how smooth the charging handle operated, I figured it'd be chinesium crap, but was smooth as butter. You had to yank that fucker back and let it go with authority for it chamber anything properly though.

>>33589727
So, why does it need a buffer? Is there just not enough room for a full size recoil spring?

>>33589727
All you'd have to do is break the little nub that holds the trigger linkage and she's fucked. If the chinks go to war with this shit they're 10/10 going to lose

>>33589751

I think it's a vestigial thing left over from the Full-auto QBZ design. I've seen references to the buffer being there to make automatic fire more controllable.

The recoil spring seemed comparable to anything else in 5.56. Could maybe be a reliability thing; lighter spring = deliberately higher bolt velocity?

I guess it probably can't hurt to have it there but the actual utility is limited.

>>33579818
If you can find a SVT-40 the recoil is next to nothing even though you are firing a full sized 30 cal. Still cheap to shoot, just clean it right away.

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>>33589782

....that little nub isn't very stressed, nor is the trigger bar


>Look at this shitty design
>Break off that little hook and you AR is dickered
>Burgers are gonna 11/11 lose with this shit

>>33589897
you go ahead and trust your life to chinkshit then bucko

>>33589727
>Agh, you're right. Disregard my retardation.
No need to be that hard on yourself, man.

>>33589917
>loses an argument
>muh chinkshit
Grow up.

>>33589985
>caring about winning or losing internet arguments

look at yourself
and it is chinkshit

>>33589993
Dude, if you don't want to argue with him, then just don't. You're making yourself look like an ass.

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>>33589917
>I don't know how metal works
>What country makes the shit determines whether something works or not
wew

>>33590030
To be fair, Chinese companies do have a bad habit of fraud when it comes to material sales or following VERY BASIC SPECIFICATIONS...

>PTSD intensifies

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>>33590030
>What country makes the shit determines whether something works or not

In this case it's directly correlated. It's a cheap shitty plastic gun designed by dogeaters.

>>33590029
I'll shit up this fucking thread all I want you cunt

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>>33590073

>>33590073
>I'll shit up this fucking thread all I want you cunt
Then I'll just sit back and watch you get your ass handed to you, I guess. Have fun.

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>>33590060
Surely you're not this guy?

>>33590114
>talking about the internet arguments he has like it's real life

there we go with that fag talk we talked about, we don't have ID's here either I could be arguing with myself here you dumb faggot

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>>33590135
I'm a third party. Feel free to verify for yourself, though.

>>33590128
Nah. A company I used to work for had a lot of their large-scale production done in China. It was a nightmare. Many, MANY angry conference calls were had, I can assure you.

>>33590135

Were you one of those kids who got brain damage from all the lead in your cheap chinese toys?

>>33590166
Care share some stories?

>>33591125
Shit like... them randomly welding a bracket 3 inches further back than what was specified on the drawing, making it impossible to assemble the end product. Or their powder coating being both super thick (like 25 thou) at one spot and there being bare metal on another spot of the same component... Or we'd receive 1000 units of something with a powder coating so off that a blind guy could tell you it isn't a colour-match.

One time, we gave them an extra sum of money and an extra two months of lead time for them to get imperial size metal rods for a specific component. Of course, instead of doing that, they just used the next metric size up, so the rods were too big to fit into the holes they were meant to go into.

Oh, and their internet connection was so piss-poor that sending them the models took so long that their connection would die before they could finish the download, so I frequently had to drop everything I was doing to Pack&Go hundreds of gigs of drawings at a time and burn them onto disks.

That said, most of the problems we had came from upper-management. The owner of the company, who was so computer illiterate that they didn't even start using CAD at all until the 2000's, was pissed that I didn't have the entire thing done in the 5 minutes he thought it would take to do that when just doing the Pack&Go would take well over an hour, let alone burning all the disks...

Despite all the problems we had with China's production, the owner figured it was a brilliant idea for us to start having China do the Engineering, too. After months of arguing about it, his idea of a good compromise was to have us make the 3D model and the top-level assembly drawings, but not actually make any of the sub-assembly or part drawings and just "have China figure it out". That didn't last long, lmao.

I learned a lot working there and I worked with some great people, but I do not miss the upper-management or dealing with Chinese manufacturers.

>>33591357
Any success stories? Like things working out surprisingly well? Or was it just this one company you did work with?

Aren't they basically trying to copy and steal technology and technical know how, to catch up to the west in terms of manufacturing and R&D, etc? Did you feel like you helped them achieve that in any way?

>>33589727
There has been a few cases of poor sear engagement leading to accidental burst firing.

>>33591424
It's not like we were working on aerospace components or shit like that. Just about 100% of our projects were custom jobs for various customers. While it usually ended in a physical product, what we provided was more of a service than goods. Nothing worth patenting or anything. Hell, the project I worked on most of the time we didn't even maintain ownership of the drawings, the customer did. We had to use their drawing templates and everything.

Some projects that we had produced in China worked out fine, but when you consider shipping and everything, the risk/reward ratio of them fucking up vs the lower production costs only made sense for really large scale shit. All our prototypes were made domestically, all the low quantity production, all the rush jobs... I swear, there were a bunch of projects that were so tight that the parts were still too hot from powder coating to touch without gloves when they were assembled and loaded into the trucks.

When I first started working there, the Engineering department was a total fucking mess. The manager who hired me had only been working there for <2 months and they had <15 pages of procedures/standards written down. By the time I left, we had nearly 100 pages worth of procedures/standards/charts/reference material. Anyone they hire now has a lot more reading to do, but a lot fewer questions to ask. Hell, they didn't even do QA or QC in the Engineering department until right around when I joined. No performance metrics, no paper trails, nothing. It didn't take long to find out who the dead weight in the department was once those things were implemented. We went from the company's bottle-neck to the highest performing department in the company and started assuming tasks and responsibilities from other departments because we could do it faster and better, but we still got shat on by the owners of the company. It was actually kind of insulting, desu.

>>33591691
>we still got shat on by the owners of the company
Maybe that's why the company turned to shit in the first place.

How was HR? Full of womyn?

How did you guys handle hurdles like out of spec or wrong sized products?

Did you have board members/stock holders who the owners had to answer to?

>>33591783
Yeah, HR was entirely women. They were pretty awful. Had to threaten to walk-out one time because they were being fucky with OT pay.

It's a family owned company. As for dealing with poorly made parts from China, unless we redesigned domestically made parts to compensate for their fuckups, it wasn't my problem. I know they lost a couple contracts because of it, though.

>>33592484
Damn, thanks for the insight. I hope they realized your value and gave you a pay raise at least.

>owned guns for a year
>haven't fired a single round

There's basically no point in owning guns in the city.

>>33592808
>two hour drive to range that is always crowded, expensive, forces you to take their (((handgun courses))), doesn't allow rapid fire, holsters, clay targets, tracers, or literally anything fun

I don't want to give kikes money.

>>33592840
what? are you sure? even the ranges are ckck, jesus christ, simplyly go to rural area and shoot in the nothing.

>>33592549
Haha, they folded immediately. I was the only one keeping a multi-million dollar contract afloat and they knew it. The head of HR was just a giant bitch.

Let me put it this way: One time I went to grab some food at a nearby grocery store and ate as I walked back. I still had a few bites left when I arrived, so I stood in the stairs for a few moments to finish eating before heading up and returning to my desk. Just as I'm about to take the last bite, she walks down the stairs. Later that day, my manager comes over and says "So, I know it's stupid but the lady from HR was scared when she saw you in the stairs and she asked me to tell you that you're not allowed to take the stairs anymore". I burst out laughing in his face, told her that if she had a problem with me taking the stairs she can tell me to my face and then I exclusively took the stairs every day for the next several months.

>>33586705

>ndp
>individual rights

They're all about equity and collectivism, so no.

>>33592840
that's why you go to places with day passes and don't commit to membership.

more pathetic than some of these range rules is the fact that you haven't fired your guns.

>>33586705
Angry Halifax anon spotted.

Anyone here got/getting a Skorpion Evo?

>>33577409
Varusteleka is pretty good and has a nice variety.

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Halifax and Dartmouth can be fucking nuked for all I care.

The amount of wanna-be thugs and whores where I live is starting to drive me mad.

Should be legal to go out and shoot em' on sight.

>>33578291
I dont usually unless someone asks... but I've had instances where noguns will pull the typical stupid jokes like: "Hur hur gee I guess I shouldnt ever piss you off", "Ha ha I hate this asshole at work, can you take care of him for me?" or my favourite "Uh-oh, we got a school shooter here"

Shit gets fucking annoying.

>>33597105
Shit like that happens at my work, the one boss says he has a plan for "when i go postal"

Dude: 50% of my guns are from WW2 and the other half are fudd guns. Relax.

Dickhead.

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>>33597122
report him to HR
that is harassment
dont let the normies fuk wit chu

M305 guy, if you're here, I'd love it if you shot me an email; we need a third guy for our oper8r days on the side by side.
[email protected]

>>33597122
>>33597203
I work in HR for a large company and I would recommend caution.
Harassment claims without witnesses or hard evidence don't go anywhere and unfortunately mark you out.
The fact that guns carry a taboo with a lot of people make it that much worse for you in reporting the issue.
Unless you have witnesses willing to get involved and your company isn't liberal/anitigun, then I would recommend not going to HR.

>>33597203
>>33597393

I actually am not concerned. Its a small company. Going to the HR person would do fuck all. They still smoke in the shop - shows how much they actually care.

Plus ive convinced 3 other employees to get their PALs.

It just gets tiresome, the same lame jokes.

>>33597498
Have you told them that the jokes are in extremely poor taste and you don't like being associated with senseless violence even in jest?

>>33597508

Too late for that after the smartass comments i made about prepping for the race war

kek. Its all good bud, appreciate the suggestions.

>>33597520
Ah.

I've had people make stupid comments (usually whenever there's a highly publicized shooting). I use it as a "teachable moment". Most people are pretty reasonable. The ones that aren't are leveraged as an example of the insanity of anti-gun arguments.

One technique I like using is arguing FOR gun-control as if I were a dictator. Hearing their own arguments when spoken in honesty breaks cognitive dissonance very effectively.

>>33597542

Speaking of Gun Control - Is the NFA Normiebook posts about rimfire mag limits and SKS banning bullshit or is there any proofs?

>>33597553
I don't use normiebook, so I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm assuming you're talking about impending gun control legislation rumours.

FWIW, the LPC has been campaigning on banning all handguns and all semi-auto's since at least Dion, but have been a bit more hush hush about it lately.

Back in the 90's, normies hadn't yet adopted the internet and our gun orgs were even more of a mess than they are today. There was a "Fed up" rally, but media just ignored it (Funny story: They actually had snipers posted on the rooftops). We are, as a community, much more organized now and we're not reliant on media like the CBC when we have CGN, youtube, twitter, facebook, etc. Social media is making it much harder for them to exert control. That's why they are censoring it more and more.

>>33579034
That front sight looks different to any Lee Enfield I've seen, jungle carbine or something? Doesn't look like the straight walled No.1 or No.4.

>>33598604
Lots of sporters come missing a front sight protector, which would be a U shaped wing around the front sight post.

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I have just finished my medical exam for the military.
I have just learned that browsing /k/ at 3 am fucked my eyes

I hope my application for a naval diver doesn't get cancelled because of this.

Anyone know what specific eye exam chart the CAF uses? I could read only the third line from the bottom.

so shooting in the fraser valley has just been completely ruined

fucking pissed lads

>>33590073
Wow! time for your nap.

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so talk me out of buying a P8 right now thats on sale at durham.

>>33602328
>hk p8
is that some sort of USP for faggots?

>>33602328
I have a 9mm USP and i love it. How much is it on sale for?

>>33602485

nine fiddy.

>>33602341
German military model of the USP

Getting an $1800 tax return, what gun should I buy?

>>33602575
What do you got?

>>33602575
Buy an SVT-40

>>33602751
>buying a shitty 400 dollar semi auto

>>33602684
sks, vz58 and a 10/22

>>33602762
Hi Hoppes

>>33602051
So why aren't we complaining and writing letters then?

Its obvious they are too lazy to do their jobs and catc hthe people who are responsible, so they punish everyone including people who are responsible and clean up after their actives?

The type of people who tend to leave a large mess and not clean up, won't even care or know of the new rules.

>>33602762
SVTs are super fun to shoot though.

>>33602796
Oh man you can literally get anything, shotgun, lever action, AR-15, handguns etc.

>>33602811
>>33602051
what do you mean? crown land (such as stave lake) and ranges (I don't go to ranges but I assume) are still fine?

>>33604174
http://calibremag.ca/bc-introduces-crown-land-no-shooting-areas/

>>33604174
I'm talking about >>33584709
http://www(DOT)theprogress.com/news/418576923.html
Shouldn't we be raising a stink over this and writing letters and complaining to our politicians?

Being passive and doing nothing but bitching to one another just makes the whole Canadian gun culture more depressing and closer to bongtier levels. Though I'm no sure if what I'm suggesting has any merit, I've never written to local politicians.

That reminds me, isn't the BC provincial elections on right about now? If this is happening at a sensitive time, maybe we can make a impact?

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>went to see "Your Name" in movie theater
>paid extra 3 dollars because I'm single
>I cried
>go to local gun range
>they tell me they won't let single men borrow their guns unless I have a PAL
>throw down 200 dollars for a PAL course
>they give me paperwork
>the government wants details from my girlfriend
>b.b...b... I'm 24 and I've never had a gf

>>33604408
go look up "conjugal" you tard

>>33604193
>>33604292
does this only affect stave lake and its immediate surroundings?

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>>33604443
>common law

>>33604408
>I'm 24 and I've never had a gf
literally 90% of /k/, get over yourself

>>33604408
there are a lot of people here that are in their 20s and never had a gf

>22 and never had gf

15 guns tho so thats nice

>>33604546
>15 guns
You got a nice raifu harem at home.

>>33604546
27 and 27 and had one long term relationship by /k/'s standards i'm doing good.

Pussy is overrated. Guns accrue in value with age.

>>33604466
It affects all bc forest service roads, and will make it way less convinient to shoot on crown land in the Vancouver area

>>33604193
What crown land is left to shoot on, for Vancouver /k/ommandos ?

What battle rifle should i buy? Price is not an issue. NR would be a plus

>>33608661
It might be worthwhile to wait for the NEA-102, then.

>>33608701
Assuming it ever gets out of the lab. The NEA guys have been teasing NR status for like 6 months.

>>33604408
>>33604443
>>33604471
>>33604490
>>33604546
>>33604567
>>33604583
The vaginal jew is overrated. Yea it was great at first now buying/shooting a new gun gets my heart pumping harder then getting laid

t. 10 year relationship

Does NEA have a good reputation?

>>33581917
The NFA does have a conflict of interest in O'Toole.

That in mind, O'Toole does want to go even further than Bernier does on rolling back gun laws.


Last I saw, his policy proposals on other issues are a lot more detailed as well.

When does Cabelas have summer sales?

>>33608928
O'Toole is a second choice for me, but Bernier is still No.1

>>33608947
They just had a sale on surplus ammo that was actually pretty decent. Otherwise cabelas' 'sale' prices are about par with what online retailers charge everyday.

Hi guys, I bought 1500 rounds of surplus and they are just sitting at room temperature, should they be put in some sort of airtight container with desiccant packets?

>>33577650
>not just going inna woods and shoot alone.
SHYGDDT.

>>33609178
Never heard of anyone air locking ammo especially surplus, but yes add desiccant packs to keep moisture out. Honestly I think where ever you're gonna store it, is much better than the warehouse it was sitting in originally.

>>33608919
They're alright. Definitely not high end stuff, but decent for the price, especially if you don't want chinkshit.

What do you niggers imagine is the single most popular gun in canada? Savage axis? Sks? Maybe sporterized enfields?

>>33609693
Probably a toss up between the Enfield and the SKS.

>>33609693
Sks hands down, cheap, reliable, loads of cheap surplus crates, and it's non restricted so anyone with a PAL can own one.

>>33609770
You underestimate the tons of fudds who has sporter enfields.

>>33610791
which ruins the rifle, the fucks

>>33611035
Yeah, but what do you expect from the boomer generation. Grandaddy probably had the rifle in mint condition for decades but it was a little bit heavy for hunting, and boomer boy can't get a duty built hunting rifle, that would be expensive. Well here's a hacksaw, time to get to work.

>>33570337
Feels bad man

I bought a Ruger 77/44 and VZ58 over the winter and have been too broke to go shooting yet :(

Nogunz here, is hunting fun? Thinking about going for the PAL and what not even though I've never actually fired a gun before.
I'm [spoiler]a stat native, being uninformed as I am that means a free hunting license right?
although I think I'm in the shittiest province to abuse this.[/spoiler]

>>33611464
I personally find shooting guns at all to be very fun, but that's me. If you like the idea of it, and you like outdoors stuff, you'll probably like hunting, though I recommend getting your PAL no matter what because shooting is fun. Can't answer your question about free hunting though.

>>33611140
Actually guys, most of the butcher jobs were done shortly after WW 2 when they didn't care about mint Milsurps. Only idiots were cutting guns in the 60s 70s and beyond. Like the yards cutting nuggets up now.

>>33611464
Get your RPAL at the same time.

>>33612451
>cutting nuggets
nothing of value lost Tbh

New thread

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