US strike on Shayrat airbase

>>33565880

Murican' junk technology

>>33565880
Why is the filename 'tomahawk missile"?

>>33565880
Looks like they lost the SU22 and MiG23 squadrons.

>>33565910

100 mill dolar$ on cheap aircrafts...So smart America...

>>33565955
Dickhead. MIG's 23 are not cheap

>>33565955
We're competing in business. If I spend $100 out of 100000 budget to make you lose $100 out of a 10000 budget, was it a good decision?

>>33565955
Which means Assad's aircraft inventory gets smaller with each passing day.

>>33566133

Yep like the russians won't supply them from their stored aircraft inventory

>>33566145
Its a cascade. Aircraft losses and the facilities to house them plus any equipment that went up means hundred of hours lost in potential use.

>>33566159

59 missiles on 1 airbase ?...wonder how many airbases are still controlled by Assad...i think they still have rooms for more aircrafts and they can flew them normally

>>33565955
>MIG23
1996 price tag was around 15 millions $USD when Russia was selling them left and right.
Given dollar lost purchasing value since then, the price tag to buy a brand new Mig23 would be higher today... if these were still produced.

They aren't produced anymore.

Which means Assad has to either :
- buy rusty junks from ex-USSR stockpile, with all the potential issues these ancestors will have.
- buy brand new russian jets with money he doesn't have right now, what with fighting a civil war.

Even so, assuming an equal price tag than 1996, the USA could afford to lose 10 tomahawk missiles for each Mig-23 they would destroy on the ground.

Now, I read it was Mig-21 on other articles so this can be a whole different picture.
But still : Assad has less assets to help his ground forces and rely more than ever on the Russians.
This means that the moment the Russians find a agreement with the USA, Assad will have to go along more than ever.

>>33566238
Several. But heavy equipment and munitions losses hurt Assad just as bad manpower issues.

>>33566267

10/10 explanation. i would copy and paste this on all the ruskis spam threads...Cancers

>How can you detect kremlinbots?
>Unfortunately, you need some personal experience from facing them. But their main red flags are: high aggressiveness, general stupidity, wide use of propaganda cliches such as: yurop is on the verge of societal collapse, the USA is on the verge of economic collapse, muh massive shootouts in the US, muh refugees in Europe, muh radical LGBT madness everywhere in the world, everything you've been told and taught is a lie, RussiaToday is the sole credible news outlet, Putin is a good boy he dindu nuffin, and so on and so forth. Their most beloved tactics are: whataboutisms, blatant ad-hominem, avoiding the subject, appeal to emotion instead of logic, shifting the argument. Their methods are effective only against inexperienced opponents.

>>33565880
Your picture shows a Harpoon anti-ship missile, not the Tomahawk used in the strike.

>>33565880
>Trusting a Russian news source to not used old footage to pretend everything is fine and dandy

Wanna know how I know you were born after the Cold War?

>>33566238
>wonder how many airbases are still controlled by Assad

Syria had hundreds of fighters and CAS planes before the civil war started so it's a small blow.

But then it's still a blow.
At 100 millions $USD, it's not a good blow if it was a war of attritions on both side.
But given the disparity in budgets between USA, Russia and Syria, it's a win.

A bit like USSR losing 12 millions soldiers to neutralize 3 millions of germans : not a clean tactical or even operational win... but a clear strategical one because, in the end, USSR could afford those losses while Germany couldn't.
Same outlook here but on an even more lopsided scale :
USA have an annual 1600 billion $USD budget for military spendings.
Syria had 3 billions of that before the civil war and Russia has about 65 billions.

So that's a 23:1
Even if the USA were losing 20 $USD for every 1$USD of assets lost by Syria and Russia, it would still be a win.
As it stands, they are "losing" maybe 1,5-2:1

>>33566410

Some MI6 agent here. Already trying to identify somebody

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>>33566467
To say nothing of the diplomatic leverage and credibility it afforded.

>>33566467
Syria had around 670 planes in 2011... they had barely 100 at the beginning of 2017. So no it isn't a small blow because they do not have many planes left nor is losing an entire airbase something to shrug off.

>>33566525
airbase is fine. Planes can still take off.

Infrastructure is a loss. Hangars, munitions, fuel depots, all up in smoke or rendered unusual and needing repair. So the airfield's usefulness is reduced without repair.

>>33566537
Can you still run sorties off an airstrip and maintain aircraft with only fuel and ammo trucks? Also, how many hangers are still usable assuming they fly in planes?

>>33566587
Im not sure. Hangars seem to be rubble or in dire need of repair. Any aircraft left outside would be at the mercy of the sand and snackbars because jet engines dont like FOD.

Munitions need a safe place to be stored like bunkers so storing them outside is asking for trouble. Again heat in the baking sun will just decrease the cookoff limit.

>>33566374
Sounds a bit like alt-righters' behaviour desu

>>33566537
For what we know, that airstrip may be littered of unexploded cluster munitions

>>33566641
Imo the Alt right and the far left have been using the same fucking thing over and over its blurry. They both use the same fucking argument and use the same fucking >russian sources.

>>33566662
Imo that would be counter productive, if the US truly wanted to wreck and airfield all they need to do is hole the strip. But every missile launched at the strip is one less missile used against actual targets.

Airstrips can be repaired, munitions, fuel and equipment require much more care and use.

>>33566641
kremlinbots are just russian alt rights tho

>>33566694
Yeah, but you can just use bulldozers to fill a hole. Cluster bombs are a mess to deal with

>>33566694
>hole the strip

You mean the damage that can literally be repaired in a few hours?

You want local, brief supremacy, you hole the runway. You want to do actual sustained damage, you destroy other assets.

>>33566713
The "alt right" is the establishment in Russia

>>33566719
Thats why i said "actual targets"

Like fuel, munitions, equipment, war assets, etc.

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>>33566641
There's a reason why Russia courts them as their catspaws instead of the radical leftists now.

>>33566744
Saved. I like that a board that actually knows something about weapons is more mature than /pol/

>>33566641
>>33566665
>>33566713
>>33566744

The reason both the Far Left and the Far Right so often quote Kremlin lines is because if you remotely poke around you'll find them littered with Kremlin funding. It's particularly evident (and fucking annoying) in the UK, where RT features both George Galloway (leader of the respect party - research it yourself, it's an utter shitshow) and Nigel Farage in spades

^ +1 until i saw Nigel Farage...Shitboy

>>33567402
the sad fact is that Are Nige is going to have to rely on Kremlin Koffers since his sugar daddy Arron Banks won't fund him any more. Expect UKiP delegates in Moscow soon

>>33566744

Trump shills are currently abandoning ship and resuming their normal anti-everything us programming. Left wingers voices suddenly got louder.

>>33566238
>wonder how many airbases are still controlled by Assad

5 left, the Shayrat one was the largest and conducted the most airstrikes. The other 5 have less than 20 operational aircrafts combined.

>>33567545
How da fuck did he retook Alep ? And The war is going in his favor ?