Middle East General- Trump Tomahawk Delivery Service Edition

>>33561063
https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/850194855452180481

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so why did trump do what he did ?

>>33561432
appease the liberals and war hawks in his party, it'll be hard for the MSM to talk shit about this when they've been begging for it since the first chemical attack.

>>33561432
To prove the Obama was a pussy and should've either went balls deep or not at all.

>>33561458
>>33561445
did you guys vote for him ? do you approve of this ?

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>>33561432
>MSM and Democrat party is 100% convinced you're a puppet of Putin
>start a war with Putin
Absolute madlad. Nixon aint got shit on Trump.

>>33561458
This. The contrast is fucking amazing. Obama dicked around for years after drawing the red line. Trump goes straight to military strikes in 3 days with no public deliberations.

>>33561432
>Le Jews

I know it's hard to get through to the wildly contrarian faggots on this board, but Supporting Assad is pretty fucking stupid. Donald did what he did because, invariably, he finally came to this conclusion or, since he already won the election, he was ready to stop playing you fools like a fiddle.

Sure it's fun to root for the guy who's attracting animosity from SJW "muh human rights" fags, Israel, AND much of the Western political establishment all at the same time, but that doesn't mean they are the good guys. A bunch of you fags just love talking about nepotism in the Saudi State and other Arab countries, ignoring the fact that Syria has Alawite nepotism problems, too. But the real icing on the cake is when you fags gobble up the typical Assad and friends "america bad israel bad the jews did this this is all amerikkkan zionist propaganda everyone but us is lying to you)))" bullshit without realizing you're being played by them.

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>>33561432

>>33561617
>Trump goes straight to military strikes in 3 days with no public deliberations.
is this a good thing ?

>>33561618
>Supporting Assad is pretty fucking stupid.
and why is that anon ?

>>33561836
because he is an infidel and opposes Allah's will

>>33561820
Maybe, maybe not way too early to tell. The craters are still warm man

>>33561820
In this case yes. Any real military action should require congressional approval but the president is authorized limited military action. This response fits perfectly. It was swift, limited, and unlikely to cause war (unless Syria is looking to sign their death warrent).

>>33561873
>unlikely to cause war
but what about russia anon ?

>>33561836
Just another shitty Arab leader who, until 2012, ruled under laws that forced minority political parties other than the Ba'aths to recognize the Ba'aths as the the leaders of the nation, essentially making it a single-party socialist state.

Even after the reforms, presidential candidates still must be Muslims and have support from almost three dozen MPs - no outsiders here, only the entrenched Syrian establishment. Syria isn't some freedom lover's wet dream, but then again, such a place no longer seems to exist. But why fags here are drawn unironically to another shitty Arab head of State blows my mind.

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>>33561588
>>33561445

Trump is so stupid. He spit on his base to try to appease the anti-American left. Now both sides hate him. But I'm sure he won over warmongers McCain and (((Bill Kristol))).

>>33561873
>>33561820
no, the president should always ask for congressional approval first

>>33561896
russia would never follow syria into war, especially war with the US and its NATO allies.

>>33561920
Let's remove him and let Syria break apart into 100 fiefdoms run by local warlords who behead apostates!

>>33561944
not him but well played

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>>33561920

Assad is an alawite. He is the last leader in the entire middle east that protects christians. Israel wants him dead, the christians genocided, the muslims in europe and Syria to be a conquered territory in their "Greater Israel". That's the real reason behind (((ISIS))) and the war.

>>33561953
Can he still win?

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Is a war between the US and Russia on the horizon? I'm honestly pretty scared. How would a US-Russia conflict play out?

>>33561944
Or, you know, you could reasonably split it along religious and ethnic lines. At this point, Syria will never be the same.

So they tracked the chemical attacks to Syria's airbase? Meaning Assad did in fact bomb his own people?

So now Trump is a jewish puppet for slapping Assad along the face?

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>>33561962

No. Assad, his family and the Syrian christians are dead. You could never have stopped this.

>>33561953
>protects Christian

Wtf i love assmad now!

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>>33561962
no

>>33561953
To be fair, ISIS let's christians live under their rule while still practicing Christianity as long as they pay a "subjugation tax"

This is better than muslims, who disagree with ISIS or have a different interpretation of Islam, that live in ISIS controlled territory. They are labeled "apostates" and executed.

>>33561977
What tracking? There is fuck all evidence from either side

>>33562007
The signatures from the jet or something something technology

>>33561953
Oh yes, peaceful, benevolent Assad who totally didn't get himself into any of this because everyone in Syria totally loves him and if you think otherwise you're a kike Zionist shill! Funny how his father loses to the Israelis (twice) and loses territory, only to have his son and his brain-dead followers overseas eat up this "it was da (((JOOS)))" trash.

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>>33562002
>ISIS let's christians live under their rule

Who told you that garbage? Obama? Isis executes the men and gang rapes the women.

>>33562032
But that's wrong you retard

I even put the terms in quotes for you so you could google them

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>>33562025
>you're a kike Zionist shill!

Yes you are and you know it. I couldn't have said it better myself.

>>33562002
>ISIS let's christians live under their rule while still practicing Christianity as long as they pay a "subjugation tax"

I could see this only because the older caliphates did the same thing and ISIS entire goal is to do those caliphates again. and yeah back in fucking 500 AD that was pretty awesome compared to getting your head lopped off by everybody else. not so impressive when it's the year 2017.

>>33561972
I imagine not every Sunni wants to live in Niggerstan with their new neighbours from Uzbekistan and Chechnya.

The best thing to do is to stop the flow of arms from Saudi/Qatar/Turkey and let the war run its course. It's their fault the war has gone on for as long as it has. Why should Syrians accept the partition of their country because their rich enemies will it?

>>33562043

>that image
>comparing a 1 man chemical attack in a peaceful country to a chemical attack in a war torn one

that's solid bait

>>33561836
Why is it that the terms for who the U.S. supports, and who we overthrow are always dictated by who the Saudis are mad at?

Tired of having those guys decide our foreign policy.

>>33562032
>inverted carry handle

All right, can someone show me the hard evidence showing that Assad's boys deployed lethal chemical weapons (i.e. not CS) against civilians in the past week or so (or against anyone, for that matter)? We know that it has happened previously according to Western news sources, but these same kinds of stories were going around when the Soviets were in Afghanistan, and those Afghan stories turned out to be bullshit. I am yet to see any hard evidence proving it, just some videos of White Helmets handling corpses and a bunch of stateside talking heads making claims about the war with varying degrees of accuracy. Also, does anybody know about the state of the Roman ruins at Palmyra? I know SAA/Russians have retaken them, but have they been seriously damaged like the collection at the Mosul Museum? I also heard that ISIS command have relocated to Hawija. Is that accurate, or are they still located in Raqqa?

>>33561926
This. We are not serfs... Last time i checked

>>33562015
In other words, there isn't any tracking, and for all we it could have been a false flag

>>33562043
If I'm an Israeli shill, you're an Arab shill.

Also, your image proves nothing. Not time context on the image on the right; for all I know it could just be a body retrieval operation without time information. Considering Sarin is pretty volatile and evaporates rapidly, it takes hours for open spaces to be cleared.

>>33562053
Ya I mean obviously it's not ideal. I'm not trying to defend them, but it's important to know the facts.

I'm a burger soldier and I still want to go there and shoot some ISIS fucks
> habbening when

>>33562078

>Most people on /k/ are NEETS who live with mom
>They don't know a thing about Syria or moms new guy friend
>They do know its the Jews, the fucking Jews did it
>All of it and you can't disprove it because Jews

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>>33562038
>google them

Great. A google "scholar". You are actually trying to defend Isis. Wow. You are brainwashed.

>>33561972
Redrawing borders would create a dangerous precedent and represents a can of worms no one is interested in opening. Disregarding the fact that the US already did this in Kosovo, it would legitimize a ton of latent ethnic conflicts around the world, especially in the former soviet republics.

>>33562083
No, serfs don't elect a president. However we do, and we entrust him with the ability to dictate foreign policy, including some limited military action. However it must remain limited.

>>33562078
> the US tracked the signal of the jet back to the airfield and analyzed what was at the field, concluding that it was where the Chem attack was from (among other proof I'm sure)
> Palmyra is fucked
> ISIS has been moving most of their leadership to smaller towns that are safer
That's all I know

>>33562114
>Redrawing borders would create a dangerous precedent

that's part of the reason this entire shit storm started in the first place. the Fucking brits and French made some of the dumbest nations from their colonies and merged tons of ethnic groups that fucking hated each other.

you may as well start redrawing the map. they were fucked from colonialism and are more fucked now.

>>33562120
Thanks. Midterms got me a little behind on the war.

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>>33562078
Bump.
You're asking the right questions, man

>>33562057
To answer your question: because a good size of those living in Syria wouldn't shed a tear over being separated from their Alawite overlords. Not all Syrians are pro-Assad, if this civil war has shown us anything. Post-Mandate Middle East borders were drawn rather lazily. Combine that with Arab tribalism, the Sunni/Shia split, the nepotism of leadership, radical clerics who want to rule the states, the secular politicians that actually rule the state but can't stop failing (take a look at Egypt for a kekworthy example of failure after failure), and angry minorities, it doesn't take the West, or Israel, or Lizardmen to destroy the Middle East. If anything, the destruction we see follows a natural, logical flow.

>>33562110
Nice bait

I'll bite though

My information comes from scholarly reviewed articles from accredited journals, professors, historians, articles, etc. + just information taken straight from the Quran.

> trying to defend ISIS
READ NIGGA READ you need better reading comprehension you Neanderthal

>1/10 bait made me reply

>>33562109

God damn Jews. I knew they did this.

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>>33562086
>you're an Arab shill.

I hate them. That's why I voted for Trump. He promised to stop "regime change" and put America first again. He lied.

The pictures prove everything. How many times will the world fall for the exact same bullshit.

>>33562078
No one has hard evidence, that's why this whole argument is a thing.

Either you believe that Assad and the Russians did this purposefully, which makes zero sense, it might also be some retarded officer that ordered the strike which is the only plausible way Syria is involved.
On the other hand it could be a chemical depot hit by a regular airstrike or simply a false flag by the rebels in a last ditch attempt to gain western support.

What's more likely, Assad who is finally winning on all fronts deciding to use chemical weapons because of lulz, or the rebels staging something only a few days prior to syria talks, after their Hama offensive stalled, and after Trump said he'd stay out of it?

>>33562120
>and analyzed what was at the field, concluding that it was where the Chem attack was from

How do they know that? They have agents on the field or what?

>>33562163
What a goofball

Obama started shit in Syria and handed Trump the bag

You're so stupid

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>>33562150
>My information comes from scholarly reviewed articles from accredited journals, professors

Scornful sarcasm: Well if college professors said it, then it must be true. Islam is the religion of peace, Bruce Jenner is a woman and race is a social construct.

>READ

I did. I wasn't impressed by you.

The Russians got warned about the attacks right? That's why the death toll is so low?

>>33562114
You don't take every country in the ME and start redrawing borders at the same time. It's a one-off thing. Jordan, for example, is pretty damn stable right now. If there's any Arab leader we should look up to, it's King Abdullah. We don't need to redraw Jordan's borders; they are more homogeneously Arab (at about 98%) than Syria (90%). Jordan is 97% Islamic, Syria is 87%. Syria itself is 74% Sunni. It's not surprising that enough Sunnis in Syria would be upset with a ruling Alawite.

>>33562206
Yes we don't want to kill Russians just show Assad the risk of using chemical weapons

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>>33562193
>Obama started shit in Syria

True.

>and handed Trump the bag

And Trump picked it up and started throwing shit everywhere. Bad for him. All he had to do was nothing.

>>33562163
>Meaningless squiggles on a screen; no translations
>Can't tell what time zone she is in; timestamp is irrelevant
>"Incontrovertible proof!"

>>33562215
You are hilarious.

>>33562219
You want an endless civil war? With regular gassing of civilian populations like rats?

What a true monster

>>33562183
but ASSad is EVIL
gassing random freedom loving civilians bring him pleasure
no one in Syria except the alawites support him him army consist only of alawites, some of them posing s sunnis, christians, druze
it make perfect sense for him use precious flight hours to bomb civilians instead of the terrorist that threaten him just after pushing back their offensive

no investigation is needed clearly if some source in idlib identified the gas as sarin he ought to to trusted as he clearly doesn't have any kind of political agenda

>>33562231
You are a fool to think that war with Russia is in America's best interest

>>33562183
>Either you believe that Assad and the Russians did this purposefully, which makes zero sense

yes it does if you take off the tinfoil hat and consider just how fucking stupid/drained the Syrian army is.

>Assad who is finally winning on all fronts

didn't he lose territory this past month?

>>33562183
sincerely, this.
t. anyone with a grain of salt in their head /k/ of all places should drink less government kool aid

>Fuck American propaganda!
>Let me go search my folders for some Assadnik propaganda... That will show them!

>>33562249
What did Assad gain by using chemical weapons as you say he did?

>>33562238
Fuck off shill

>>33562238
you're asking too much critical thought from grunts, m8

>>33562257
Where did I say that?

Look motherfucker, the the original Islamic caliphates followed the same shit that I was talking about. They labeled any separate Islamic factions "apostates" and they killed any religious peoples besides the "people of the book" (being religions stemming from an Abrahamic God I.E. Christians and Jews)
> inb4 JOOOOOOOSS

ISIS ideology objectively strictly adheres to that ancient form of Islam.

and way to cherry pick parts of what I said:
> My information comes from scholarly reviewed articles from accredited journals, professors, historians, articles, etc. + just information taken straight from the Quran.

It's not my problem if you want to completely ignore history, but I don't want to hear "I was just pretending to be retarded"

>>33562239
I'm talking about the chemical weapons part.

>>33562257

what did Assad gain by parking tanks in the middle of fucking no where with no infantry support?

>>33562267
Rusphobic bigotry in 2017?

You need to go back to pol with your racism

>>33561836
ISIS is good for the Jews.

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>>33561920
Why don't retards like you understand that Middle Eastern dictators are a necessary evil; without them, everything falls into chaos, arabs are just too medieval in their mentality, only a hard man type of leader can keep a relatively stable state

>>33562141
Thanks.
>>33562183
Yeah, that's exactly why I had my doubts. I mean, this recent cooperation (maybe more like cessation of hostilities that is most likely temporary?) between Rojava and the Assad has produced some wonderful results. I can't see a reason for Syria to use chemical weapons, let alone on civilians, unless like you said it was an accident or an example of some retard officer wagging his dick. Besides that, was it chlorine gas or sarin? The media can't seem to get their story straight. CNN says it's sarin, but my local NBC affiliate says it was chlorine. Various online sources report it differently, as well, even though the effects of the two chemical weapons on humans are pretty distinct. This just reeks of bullshit. It wouldn't be the first time the US government staged a casus belli (see Gulf of Tonkin). I don't know why we're crying over the rebel casualties of this supposed chemical attack either (a sentiment I have seen on social media and from at least one talking head), given that they are fucking Tahrir al-Sham if all people.

>>33561617

Or checking to see if Assad actually did it (though killing a ton of civilians alone is grounds for removing Assad).

>>33562278
>Why don't retards like you understand that Middle Eastern dictators are a necessary evil; without them, everything falls into chaos, arabs are just too medieval in their mentality, only a hard man type of leader can keep a relatively stable state

this sounds like me when I am plowing your mother.

>>33562249
admitting the american view is propaganda is the first step to have a decent discussion.. I might even agree, if we used an objective scale that measured politicians around the world, on Assad being not in the first places, but for fucks sake if that's the reasoning USA should have subverted all the gulf states FIRST, seeing the shit they constantly do, how they support and finance terrorism etc. Criticizing Assad and then being allies with Saudis makes you lose all credibility.

>>33562272
...ridicule.

>>33562284

Because one-party secularized dictatorships are a new phenomenon in the Middle East?

Historically, the Middle East was ruled by various empires.

>>33562278
Then they should Be like Abdullah II. Not like Assad, Sadam, Sadat, and Nasser. If you don't realize that Syria, as a single nation, is a mess with Assad in power, I don't know what to tell you. It's convenient, though to try to drum up some nationalism to rally what supporters you still have in a civil war by blaming America, Israel, and everyone under the sun except yourself.

>>33562163
Trump is probably being lied to by his intelligence and military advisors. The corruption is deep my man.

>>33562287
>Allies with the Saudis

And where, my friend, did I say I was allied with the Wahhabi fags? Being anti-Assad doesn't inherently make you pro-Saudi.

>>33562315
>Being anti-Assad doesn't inherently make you pro-Saudi.
not inherently, but a little bit

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>>33562236
>You want an endless civil war?

No. That's why I want America out of the middle east and to stop supporting Isis. Assad would have won by now.

>gassing of civilian populations like rats?

Oy vey! It's another shoah! Like the holocaust, it needs to be investigated. Trump started an illegal war against a country that never attacked us, after a false flag attack and after only one days. No investigation whatsoever. No discussion or debate in Congress. Not even a speech to the American people. Not even George W Bush was that reckless.

>>33562324
You can dislike two things, even if those two things are opposed to one another.

>>33562327
Obama's been bombing those niggas for years on behalf of Jews/ISIS. We don't even know what targets those tomohawks hit.

Watching pro Russian Americans lose their shit has made this great.

MAGA does not mean doing what's good for Russia, you cucks.

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Your daily reminder that there are no good guys in the Middle East. Outside of Israel and their rifle-toting QT reservists, obviously.

>>33562327
And tell me, my friend, why the Syrian FM is any more credible than his detractors? Of course they're not going to say "we gassed some dude lol"

>>33562327
The US has been bombing Syria for ages.

Ronald Reagan did the same shit to Libya.

Fuck off cunt. It's high time the US acted like a fucking superpower.

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>>33561063
heheheh ehhehhe ehhe hheeee

>>33562242
>didn't he lose territory this past month?
He did in the rebel hama offensive which I mentioned, they pushed hard but have now stalled out. It means the Idlib pocket is too weak to challenge the SAA. The fronts are all stabilized and/or advancing, Assad is assured a slow victory.
The rebels are probably not able to pull any major offensive like this again, and as this attempt grinds to halt there's suddenly a chemical attack.

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>>33562367
>why the Syrian FM is any more credible than his detractors

Because people are considered innocent until proven guilty. Because Assad had zero motive. Because Trump said that he would leave Syria be and not murder Assad like Obama wanted. Because Obama committed a false flag attack against Assad years ago. Because it failed miserably when the terrorists were caught red handed. Because they were Obama's "moderate" muslim terrorists. Because then Obama and the UN confiscated all of Syria's chemical weapons. Does that answer your question, stranger?

What Russian made SAM could intercept Tomahawk missiles is set up correctly? SA-22? What else?

>>33562280
Leaked mails revealed that the US considered a flase flag chemical attack early in the war as an excuse to remove Assad. I don't usually mention this when posting since the americans get all flustered and start shitposting, but I really wouldn't put it past them.

>>33562367
Because literately last month ISIS carried out a chem weapons attack in Iraqi.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/03/06/isis-accused-unleashing-chemical-weapons-mosul
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/29/chemical-weapons-found-in-mosul-in-isis-lab-say-iraqi-forces

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>>33562327
>Sputnik
try a bit harder next time.

>>33561944
Who the fuck honestly cares. Let the shit skins slaughter each other, it saves the west the expense. If trump is suddenly going to shit his pants about every mass casualty that includes a bunch of kids dieng horribly north africa as a whole is going to have a shitty 4 years. This is to take heat off black water's illustrious leader and the fact potus's own top advisor and son in law cant get a national security clearance because he knows he will either A) have to purger himself to get the clearence or B) erode the confidence further that Trump is anything more than a sock puppet for Vlad. Vlad not shooting down a not very stealthy weapon system is proof he weighs 6 dead sand niggers and a few less hangers as being less costly than blowing a mult year intelligence campaign to infiltrate the leadership of his biggest enemy. Well played FSB

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>>33562305
Again, you're just looking at 1 exception that confirms the rule; yes, arab dictators are shitty, but the alternative is much worse. Nobody is saying that tyrants are okay, but you have to choose pragmatically between two evils, of which one is far more acceptable. It's not like there a King Abdulah of Syria waiting in exile and he's not allowed to return and rule with compassion and wisdom over Syrians because Assad is a dick and is clinging to power. If you remove Assad, at the very best another tyrant will take his place, at very worst they will become Libya 2.0.
At least with dictators you get to negotiate with someone that gives the semblance off a centralized authority, a "real" country, without them you get Somalia and Libya. Politically speaking, dealing with a dictatorship is much more preferable because a failed state is very hard to negotiate with, you have to negotiate with several, if not tens of stakeholders aka warlords, which is a diplomatic nightmare. That's why somalia has been abandoned to famine and extreme poverty; trying to send aid or help rebuild that shithole is impossible because those fucking warlord clowns always sabotage the negotiations if they don't get the lion's cut, so they can eventually grow stronger and become dominant or even full dictators. But of course Somalia has jackshit resources that interest the big players, so they can afford not giving a shit about those savages, but Syria on the other hand, has a key strategic position, is a thorn in Israels side, a nuisance to Turkey, and a fucking pain to Saudis. Don't imagine the "civilized" West cared about human right in syria if Syria was somewhere in central Africa. And before anyone calls me a vatnik, there's nobody on this board that hates russians and communists more then I do, I realize that Russia is playing their own shit game in Syria, not really ta hero like some fools think, but strictly looking at Assad, the region is more stable with him than without.

>>33561923
For what its worth, the entertainment value of TrumpTweets and his constant "Oh yeah, i changed my mind. Fake news. Never said that." will never get old

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>>33562398
This
I hope people calm their tits because it looks like this was a stern warning against Assad and Baath hardliners not to rock the boat. I'm still sceptical about who did the gassing (government dropped gas weapons or hit a rebel depo storing chemical components) as it's too early. You have to look at broader political stakes at hand. Trump shuts up some critics from the Dems, establishea himself as a man of action in front of Xi Ping, demonstrates that he's not a Russian lackey and placates Israeli security concerns about Shia Hezzbolah getting hands on chemical weapons. This is more a political response than a military intervention.

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>>33562421
>>33562380

>>33562437
Xi is huge. Fuck I would have loved to be a fly on the wall in that dinner.

Xi realizing this is what happens when you push to hard, especially regarding the SCS. I hope me made a sideways comment regarding the scs and trumps obvious reaponse about his willingness to use force.

https://strawpoll.com/4c5zys3
vote on the gas attack

>US bombed Syria
who cares, post some real news. i heard isis got it bad today in iraq.

Syrian observatory is saying a few Syrian troops died.

I don't think Syrians got the memo, which means Russians did not pass on their warning or got it way late.

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>>33562412
As an American, I wouldn't put it past my own fucking government. They're all shysters, every single one of them. Our government has a long history of faking incidents, exaggerating incidents, distorting the truth of incidents, and willfully going along with absolute bullshit if it suits the narrative.
>Operation Washtub
>the proposed Operation Northwoods
>Gulf of Tonkin incident
>Nayirah testimony
That's not even the half of it.

>>33561923
Would've download this for reference had it not been for your retarded unfunny meme image shit. Fucking Reddit frog fag.

>>33562489
Gulf of Tonkin was clear case of fog of war.

The problem is after they found out a few months later, the rape train lost its breaks.

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>>33562479

>6

First Lieutenant Issa Mohammed Ali

>>33562479
They got the memo I think, ~6 deaths is pretty low for that many missiles into one target, especially one that was likely to be fairly busy.
The real question is whether or not the valuable shit there got to safety or not. Runways and hangars can be repaired, SAMs and general ordnance will be replaced by daddy bear at little to no cost, but aircraft and their pilots are much bigger ticket items. Even losing a half dozen operational aircraft would be a significant loss for SyAF that already has not nearly enough aircraft for the potential number of daily missions.

>>33562489
The Nayirah testimony was especially clumsy as the state department threatened to revoke the press cards of any news agency that was trying to get a follow up story or figured out that she was a daughters diplomat all along. But then again there was quit some heavy censorship and media blackouts during the Gulf War than people believe.Vietnam thought the government that you can win the war on the battlefield but lose the political war at home.

>>33562007

>there is no evidence

How do you know any better than the fucking president?

I don't get it.

One day we're cheering for Trump wen he says we're gonna increase the budget, and then the next we get assmad and complain about wasting money when he uses old missiles that would eventually need to get replaced.

>>33562512
15 aircraft down confirmed and a few dead.

They didn't get the memo.

>>33562522
>Argument from Authority
And yours is?

>>33562523
Who the fuck is "we"?

>>33561617

Sure, but that's fucking dumb.

>>33562532

>Counter arguments by pointing out a logical fallacy

>Says my argument is a non-argument

>>33562493
>North Vietnamese claim all waters within 12 nautical miles of their shore as territorial waters, just as the French did in colonial Indochina
>Americans don't give a shit about the fact that most of the world recognize Vietnam's territorial waters as being 12 nautical miles offshore
>Command decides to plop the Maddox only 8 nautical miles offshore, because that certain won't seem suspicious or provoke anything
>South Vietnamese and CIA "advisors" raiding North Vietnamese coastline consistently
>USS Maddox hanging around in territorial waters around the same time
>Maddox is 3-4 nautical miles into North Vietnam's claimed waters and has Vietnamese vessels shadowing them trying to see what they're up to
>fires initial warning shots in waters claimed by and internationally recognized as the territorial waters of North Vietnam
>Johnson administration insists the Vietnamese fired first
>2 days later, USS Maddox and USS Turner Joy are still fucking hanging out in the North Vietnamese claimed territorial waters, at 11 nautical miles off shore
>fire at false radar images and tell command back home, "yep, we got them commie sons a' bitches"
>Gulf of Tonkin Resolution passed
>Johnson assures Moscow that he will not broaden the civil war in Vietnam
>a few hours later American planes bomb North Vietnamese targets
>American military presence in South Vietnam increases and regular combat units deploy by the beginning of 1965
"Fog of war" my ass. It's pretty clear that they were trying to pull some shit. I hate commies as much as the next guy, but the whole war was pointless. Do you also believe that Lee Harvey Oswald fired a 6.5mm Carcano from the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository, too?

>>33562522
I think it's safe to say that a lot of people know better than Trump when it comes to a lot of things. Last year, the man said that there wasn't actually a drought in California and that he would just open the dams up and let all the water go. He appointed a fucking woman of all people who has no diplomatic experience to be Ambassador to the UN, where many of her most important contacts will be with Middle Eastern ambassadors who are notoriously difficult to deal with and have no respect for women. Trump is full of shit.

>>33562549
Yes, Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy anon. The shot was not impossible, and he shot well back in the marines.

As for the gulf of tonkin, being aggressive=/ false flag.

I was specifically referring to the 2nd incident however.

>>33562572

> I think its safe to say that a lot of people know better than Trump

Reminder, there's an entire team behind this decision. It's not just Trump alone as an individual making these choices.

If you're a supporter you should stand behind all of his actions and not condemn them because you believe a dictator above him and his administration. This makes you look like a child.

If the chemical bombing is true, and the Trump admin. says it is, so does the pentagon, then this bombing was fully justified.

>>33562532

Pointing out logical fallacies is also a logical fallacy in itself. In other words you're shit.

>>33562530
Ouch that's gonna hurt them assuming they were all operable (they have a shitload of wrecks sat around all over the place used as parts donors), but the low casualty count still makes me think they did get the memo, but just didn't manage/attempt to get aircraft in the air. I mean I highly doubt they have the same level of procedures or as reliable ground crews as the US/most western airforces do when it comes to getting an emergency scramble of all birds done.

>>33562438
I'm not american, retard.

I have a question. 59 missiles killed only 6 soldiers? Seems that they hit an abandoned airbase. Still a pretty good PR stunt

>>33562696

Do your soldiers just hang around aircraft without supervision and/or orders?

>>33562701
Im pretty sure airbase they hit was a helicopter base. Plus it's in Homs so every aircraft is flying from T4.

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Seems to be empty

>>33562696
Pretty sure they knew hours beforehand so they tried to evacuate as good as they could. Or well that's what I read on /pol/, lol

>>33562725

I don't think so. If what they say is true, and the chemical bombing came from there, it should be a warehouse, jet base AND helicopter base.

I don't suddenly doubt the Trump administration because I disagree with their military effort.

>>33562737

> One building seems empty therefore they all were

This building doesn't even seem to be hit that bad, giving me the idea that they weren't aiming for this one in the first place.

>>33562749
There where 40 shelters in that airbase, so im pretty sure they all got wrecked.

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>>33562749
Apparently Su-22 got destroyed

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n33N1cJbfU
So only 9 planes ripped?
And the airstrip is undamaged.

>>33562804
WTF! 59 missiles? and only 9 planes and 6 soldiers.Those are extremely light losses for SAA who from time to time loose a much more than that.

>>33562816
People say the US alerted the russians about the strikes so I guess they in turn warned the syrians to gtfo.
Or maybe the base was just empty.

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>>33562816
>and only 9 planes
And what was the serviceability of those planes any way?

>>33562824
It's just a PR stunt to show that Trumps administration care to somewhat degree.

>>33562831

>Civilians get bombed by their own leader
>Lots of people die including children

>This detail gets forgotten and put away

>Trump kicks back and destroys the base where their administration believes the bombs came from

> LOL PR STUNT XDDDD

At least pay attention

>>33562842
>think about children meme
>In al qaeda controlled area.
Yeah right.
Destroys base? You mean 9 planes and 6 soldiers? Damn that is going to put assad on his knees

>>33562859
You're retarded on all fronts.

>>33562859

> Children meme

The fuck this isn't a meme you dip. If a country bombs its own people some one has to step in and punish them. Don't fucking tell me you agree with Assad on this.

You just deny any involvement on his part because it's convenient and fits your narrative.

>>33561926
Like obongo did ever

>>33562864
KYS kiddo and log off 4chan right now

>>33562872
Found a german cuck here

>>33562895

Not an argument.

The way Germany tries to get involved is beyond retarded. This isn't their problem.

>>33562887
>KYS
>kiddo
>log off 4chan right now
Yikes. And it isn't even summer yet.

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>>33562077

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>>33562875
Expect he did just than in 2013 after Ghouta attacks

>>33562845
I'd s*ck his d*ck

>>33562538
>>33562617
There is nothing wrong with identifying a fallacy in an argument unless i dismiss the proposition out of hand. Point out where I implied that. I'm saying that an argument such as "the president knows better" is incomplete or lacking in weight unless further argument to the fact is presented.

>>33562952

Don't pretend to have won a discussion simply by pointing out fallacies.

Out of 59 missiles fired how many actually hit the airbase?
Was there no attempts at shooting them down? I guess not if the Russians knew about the strikes beforehand?

ASSADISTS ON SUICIDE WATCH

HAHAHA
A
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A
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A

>>33562961
Still doesn't prove or disapprove the original argument whether or not it was the government or rebels were behind the gas incident. I'm saying there is really insufficient evidence to condemn either partner until everyone gets most of the facts straight. Right now there is just speculation with arguments for or against. This is still a very surprising and sudden reaction from the US considering the time frame.

>>33563008

No it doesn't do anything.

>>33562973
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfsZyV9eVcs

Russian MOD says only 23 missiles reached their destination?
>Runway and parked aircraft undamaged.
>4 old migs destroyed inside hangars.
>Radar station destroyed.
>Some other building destroyed (mess hall / kitchen?)

There's some kind of drone footage of the aftermath at 3:50

>>33563019
What a knee jerk reaction from the government does do is increase animosity between Russia and the US. That's a fucking stupid thing to do over a country like Syria. These actions have more to do with placating Gulf leadership and sending a political message by taking advantage of a situation when that opportunity has a limited window of time. It's not on the same level as Clinton starting air campaigns over Serbia in order to deflect media attention away from blowjob affairs, but when you look at the bigger picture the gassing really only seems like a pretext.

>>33561964
>Is a war between the US and Russia on the horizon?
no

>>33562872
What if its both sides bombing their own people? It's a civil war you dumbfuck

>>33561964
No, but it does increase tensions which can increase the risk of an incident when two major powers are conducting military operations in the same region without any coordination or formal agreements regarding the rules of conduct between each others forces. I doubt Trump is willing to take this any further unless Russia or Assad decide to push back or respond in way that fucks with US interest in the region.

>>33563052
Not to mention giving the sand monkey jihadis motivation to push hard again SAA positions, believing SAAF support is partially disabled.

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>>33563020
apparently the warhead from a tomahawk that fell in tartous

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>>33563173
It was one airfield hit with multiple planes lost and a couple of pilots and officers killed so yeah, this is a set back for the SAA. But based on the way Russia takes this kind of thing it wouldn't surprise me if RAF will just fill in for the Syrians by increasing their air campaign and missile strikes against rebels. Sort of like a fuck you to Washington.

>>33563075
US and Russia have never breached their gentleman's agreement
To this end, they do share information on who's doing what where semi-regularly -- no surprises, no accidents.

>>33563181
considering that's not even close to the size of a tomahawk conventional payload..

>>33563252
Hey, I'm not complaining. I'd settle with more Russian air power after America's.

>>33563319
Probably not the warhead, but maybe a component from the missile that survived the impact more or less intact?

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>>33563319
so they sent smaller warheads?

>>33563351
Well I'll be damned...
Wiki says the pbxn-107 type II warhead as a polymer-bonded explosive, so that would explain why such a seemingly small package carries such a heavy punch.

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>>33563181
the same as a warhead recovered by ISIS in 2014

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Russian Defense Ministry Decides on Expansion in Syria Follows Putin's Orders.

Anyone remember 1993? Clinton fired 23 Tomahawk cruise missiles at Saddam's forces.

Casualties: 9 'civilians' (the target was the secret service hq) and three buildings destroyed.

Why? A bomb found in Kuwait, believed meant for visiting Bush Sr. But evidence was real sketchy, and incidentally Clinton was in deep shit at home.

So kaboom.

>>33561964

> Not understanding history

Do you know why the Cold War was a Cold war, you dumb faggot?

>>33562163
a precision strike is not a regime change

>>33562467
what an unbiased poll

>>33563378
Dunno, it totally looks like 500kg to me.

>>33563763
It is in the same range. Regime change is when you bomb the shit out of anyone and do not give a fuck. No regime change is when you act reasonably and at least start an investigation before bombing the shit out of someone.

>>33562875
lol he did

>>33563798
You have to be 18 to post here. Does your mom know you're playing hookey?

>>33561618

I know it hurts your ego, but American foreign policy is exclusively controlled by the mighty AIPAC lobby.

The Jewish-run Neo-Cons finally got the war they've been agitating for.

>>33562025
>Oh yes, peaceful, benevolent Assad who totally didn't get himself into any of this because everyone in Syria totally loves him

How many wars has he initiated?

There have been festering Muslim Brotherhood cells all over his country after the failed Hama offensive in the 1980s.

The Jews, along with their Western puppets like US and the UK decided to mobilize these extremists and call them "the moderate opposition" when they staged their insurrections in 2011.

Assad's weakness was he didn't squash them violently enough, like his old man.

>>33562002

>Being an ISIS apologist

Holy shit, isn't that punishable by death?

>>33563798
That just doesn't make sense. I get your point about the investigation, but either your deploying military force specifically to remove someone from power or your not. The strike was a direct and proportional response to the (alleged) crime, and everything we've heard so far from the Trump administration has been that any further actions against Assad would be diplomatic in nature.

>>33562043
You don't know the NBC contaminants. If it was in fact chlorine gas then a mask is completely fine. Especially if it's casualty extraction after the fact when the NBC agents would likely have already denatured or evaporated to lower concentrations.

Holy fuck this general turned to shit

>>33564013
Damn muslim attacks fuck up every board except /po/ for a while every damn time

>>33564013
same thing happened to the last thread or two. as soon as hints of a US response happened, the general turned to shit. shame because there's so much going on in the mid east but its getting drowned out by this.

>>33564013
It always happens when big news breaks, especially when the US goes balls deep in it. It's nothing out of the ordinary.

>>33564048
To be fair, it'll take a while before the SDF gets started storming Taqba. They're not even halfway through with Raqqa. Operations at Mosul is also crawling along as usual.

It's more murky with the SAA and the FSA/HTS/"moderates" though.

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>Oy vey

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Did the Ruskies ever had a chance to do damage assessment on Tomahawk strikes before? Their technics are gonna have a field day

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>>33564101
>note landing strip intact
I knew it! They want to send a political message but at the same time not fuck up any conventional capabilities that Assad has of fighting ISIS or Nusra!
>(deep state and covert diplomacy intensifies) intensifies

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Ben Garrison always cuts to the horrible truth of the matter. If you are on the same side as Obama, Hillary, McCain, evil Soros, Mossad, CIA and the mainstream media, then you are the enemy of America.

Russian warship entered the eastern Mediterranean and heading toward 2 U.S. Navy destroyers which launched missiles at Syria.


Russia suspends military communication channel with U.S. in Syria.

>>33561964
Russia doesn't want their shit pushed in so, no.

>>33562191
satellites are a remarkable thing

>>33562146
Spot on Scotty

>>33564249
>I knew it! They want to send a political message but at the same time not fuck up any conventional capabilities that Assad has of fighting ISIS or Nusra!

Attacking a runway is a waste of munitions. They can be fixed within hours with nothing more than a wheelbarrow and some gravel.

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>>33561445
>>33561458
>>33561588
>>33561617
really gets the noggin joggin

>>33564665
Deep cratering the fuck out of a runway still gives opposition forces enough time to mount an offensive knowing that air cover is temporarily halted or limited. But these are sand-people we are talking about, so combined-arms tactics isn't really their strong suit.

>>33562078
>Also, does anybody know about the state of the Roman ruins at Palmyra? I know SAA/Russians have retaken them, but have they been seriously damaged like the collection at the Mosul Museum?

The ancient Palmyra ruins are on the outskirts and compose mostly of open sites with minimal cover that are too shitty to dig into; so capture of the site will likely be lightning fast either way with minimal damage. Besides the temple that IS dynamited for iconoclastic reasons a couple years back, much of the ruins is relatively intact. Just about the only other thing IS ever uses the site for are executions at the amphitheater.

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>>33564735

>Russian destroyers steaming toward US ships that fired missiles
P A N I C

We Syrian Missile Crisis nao

>>33561588
>Start a war with Putin

No, Trump didn't, you tard. If he wanted to start war with Putin, the US wouldn't had issued advanced warnings to Russia on the Tomahawk strikes.

>>33564848
Wrong

Hitler notified Poland of strikes on Danzig,too

>>33561964
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU WW3 POSTERS

HAVE YOU NOT STUDIED HISTORY

DO YOU NOW KNOW WHAT A PROXY WAR IS

THE WHOLE POINT OF PROXY WAR IS TO AVOID WAR

DO YOU THINK ALL GOVERNMENTS ARE BLIND AND NOT CONSIDER POSSIBLE ESCALATION AND RISKS IN LITERALLY EVERY ACTION?

/rant

>>33565166
>DO YOU THINK ALL GOVERNMENTS ARE BLIND AND NOT CONSIDER POSSIBLE ESCALATION AND RISKS IN LITERALLY EVERY ACTION?
Normally yes but Donald Trumpf is unhinged and can't be allowed to have the missile codes. This is what happens.

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>>33564290
>Russian warship entered the eastern Mediterranean and heading toward 2 U.S. Navy destroyers

Hope our guys have tetanus boosters.

>>33565179
>it's another "it only takes 1 person to start ww3" episode

>>33565179
>trumpf

opinion discarded

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Skipping over a lot I am looking forward to a fight looming in Hama as pro SAA sources claim more reinforcements have come to take back what they lost in the initial rebel attack and HTS is posting pictures showing they are still on the front with some fighting today. That and HTS still has their roving T-90 around Maardes.

its all part of a long planned out game, we cant flip our shit at the fist move that seems strange.

also >>>/pol/

I'm off the Trump train.

Let Assad win or don't fucking meddle in the Middle East.

No more support of ISIS.

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>>33565348
So long, here is a Sat picture of the targets hit in the US tomahawk strike last night.

>>33565396
Love that we're simultaneously helping the Jews, ISIS, and Saudi Arabia all at the same time.

>>33565420
Don't forget the Shia in Iraq and YPG/NFSA in Syria. Let em fight it out.

>>33565474
I'm just so confused what happened. Within the span of what, like 2 days? We had a chemical attack, we """"confirmed""""" it, and now Trump wants to start toppling Assad and opening the gates for radical Islam.

>>33565474

I think there's various departments in the US government who wage their own wars with their own proxy forces for different purposes.

It's fucking schizophrenic.

>>33565348
>too retarded to read or understand literally a single detail about what happened
Your typical Trump voter, everybody.

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ISIS sniper Kirkuk video pics. webms coming soon.

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>>33565704

>>33565617

Whatever hope I had that Donald Trump would be a new kind of President, that hope is extinguished. He is a child and a moron. He committed an act of war without justification. But the fault is not his alone. Those who sit atop the NSC, the DOD, the CIA, the Department of State should have resigned in protest.

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>>33565719

>>33565734
>Those who sit atop the NSC, the DOD, the CIA, the Department of State should have resigned in protest.

lel you think those guys were innocent? guarantee you Trump was more the innocent(ish) one and those departments were the ones hounding and goading him

>>33565734
There won't be a war. He was calling the medias bluff and killing their Russia narrative.

The best part... it looks good to normies and now the libs can't claim false flag without pushing blame to Soros, since his white hats were the first on the scene.

>>33565755
Did that due try to take a selfi?
Well done ISIS

>>33565779
I didn't know ISIS was in the business of Call of Duty montages now.

>>33562002
What the fuck????

>>33565779
How rude to interrupt that guys bj like that

>>33565755
Why is it that Iraqi soldiers spend all their time taking selfies?
i wonder if the bullet photobombed his pic

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>>33565790
Where have you been since 2004?

>>33565801
Peshmerga, those are Kurds and various related militias.


So video related, wtf even happened here? I get the tracer smacked him but what happened to the bullet...

>>33563351
34 lbs when rocket motor attached.

That's some god damn amazing engineering.

>>33565801
Their incompetence and general malingering defies all reason and logic. If it weren't for the USAF, and Iran, ISIS would've taken over Iraq long ago. With perhaps the exception of the Kurdistan.

>>33565815
>shooting at superman
Somebody gonna get rekt once he gets over his surprise

>>33562043
>hazmat responders in suits in one of the most built up cities on Earth
>literal sandniggers in a 3rd world country that has been in a constant state of war for 6 years

Totally the same goys, false fag. Has 2 b

>>33565790
Yeah, they're a part of a series of what Al Jazeera calls "slick advertisements"

>>33563833
s/AIPAC/Saudi

The Jews are the little devil whispering into America's left ear, the Saudis are the big devil with a leash around America's neck

>>33565973
Do Arabs actually buy into Isis video propaganda?

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>>33566011
Well a handful enough do to convince some to join.

I need to go check out /pol/ today. Those retards must be crying over this.

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>>33565310
Breaking of HTS footage from near Maardes today on the outskirts. The T-90 is not only is still there but still leading attacks. This is like the Jihadists version of fury knowing the SAA and Russians want to blow that thing up.

>>33566285
Michael Mujahid Wittmann

>>33566073
>ISIS
>using a fuck ton of US weapons
wew

>The US Congress authorizes Trump to supply the Syrian opposition groups with anti-aircraft missiles
https://twitter.com/QASIOUN_NEWS/status/850414246429048832

????

>>33565166
By the looks of it, they're too myopic to remember the Lebanese Civil War and Iraq-Iran War.

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>>33565348
No one is allowed off the Trump train. Because the next stop in this ride is make Syria great again

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>>33566541

>>33565002
>Comparing warning shots to calm domestic hysteria with a blatant move to annex territory.

Anon, why do you do this?

>>33565719
>>33565704
damn these sandniggers are pathetically underequipped

>>33566656
I'd love a sexy M16 DMR rig like that. I guess I'm less equipped than a sand nigger :(

>>33566285
source on video?

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>>33565815
It looks like it ricocheted from his skull lol

>>33566753
They didn't put out a armor attack video yet, only pictures. Oh well, this is about to be a large clash area soon. We'll see footage soon enough, be it HTS or SAA.

>>33566800
but how...? utter 1 in a billion fluke?

>>33566810
He probably relaxed the tension in his neck at just the right moment. When you tense up, that's when you get hurt. You want the collision to be as elastic as possible.

>>33562002
Kill your self

>>33566810
Mustve been a crazy angle and probably coupled with long distance shot

>>33564277
man ben garrison really overdosed on the redpills

>>33562219
>do nothing
thats obamas job

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While it doesn't look like we're going intervene, say the worst happens and we go full Iraq on Syria, last I remember the Marine Corps and Army were downsizing and cutting back on personnel

What would be the chances of a backdoor draft for all us MilFags who still have time on their contract?

>>33562281
I think we should focus on all of our domestic agencies that commit crimes against the constitution, the American people, and humanity before we throw yet another country into the stoneage "for the good of democracy/freedom/installing IMF banks".

Naval combat with russia when? Boots on ground when?

WW3 kino when?

>>33563020
notice how the numbers MoD cites keep changing. In the immediate aftermath it was 15 planes destroyed, then 9, now 4. Soon it will be "23 tomahawks hit the base creating 4 new migs, god bless Russia and the SAA!!!!"

>>33561836
Because Muslims are a threat to western society

>>33567910
>Assad
>The same as dogmatic jihadis who actually want to fuck with the West

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HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO KILL RUSKIES WITH THAT PIECE OF SHIT YOU CALL FACE?

LET ME SEE YOUR WAR FACE!

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>>33568760

Theory as to what is happening in the world.

>actions against Syria open a dialog between the US, Russia, and NATO
>this secures Russia as a modern nation for the coming decades
>explains why the Russians bothered with the election
>Hillary would have had this same situation that would have resulted in war and no cooperation with those damn backwards Russians
>But trump is able to see eye to eye and talk it out as two leaders with very similar ideals
>Russia becomes an ally or at least neutral in US work in Syria realizing that support of Syria will put them in a world of pain
>this relation can blossom into long term relations and total and complete Kebab removal by pooling the resources of the modern world against little Jihad Johnny
>this new stability in the world makes the allegations of Russian meddling seem pointless as it yields a better world

>this leads into a second term for Trump where the big one is waiting
>CHINA
>we remove communism with the assistance of Russia and NATO
>sparked like Syria was from gas attacks with their actions in the south China Sea


>Russia did not totally flip shit when they were informed of the attacks coming and are yet to have any conclusive hostility as a result of this. It would certainly make their work in the election pointless if they did all this just to have total war in the end anyway.

We are equally between world peace and world war at this stage. Removal of Islam and Communism would be the only adversaries against global unification.

Thoughts?

>>33568191
>too young to know that the west fucked up his country first by inciting a revolution

>>33568866
>We are equally between world peace and world war at this stage. Removal of Islam and Communism would be the only adversaries against global unification.
>Thoughts?

The middle east has been in a shit show since the re-drawing of the border post WWI and WWII. If we hadnt fucked that up then that area would have kept to themselves. This is how the whole "death to the west" narrative started in the ME.

>>33568866
is george hw bush's new world order! then we get the one world currency and the juden's work is complete

>>33562043
You do know that Japan is a modern and wealthy first world country and that Syria is a poor third world country, right? Syria isn't going to be able to afford special suits. And if it was a chlorine gas attack you don't even need a suit, just a mask will suffice.

0/10 image

>>33569141
not just that, Sarin dissipates quickly in open environments, the japanese EMR went underground to recover the victims, which is an area where the sarin doesn't dissipate as quickly whereas the white helmets just got people outside of the blast radius as it was hit in a non-enclosed environment.

>>33569101
>Shit punctuation and grammar
>Crying about Jews
>Doesn't refute argument
There's a certain place you'd fit right in, you know?

>>33565182
a minesweeper from the 50s

>>33568866
China isn't communist in anything but name anymore you LARPing dipshit

>>33569481
Consider it as a title given, as they would be one of few major hindrances to my grand idea.

>>33565999
>ISIS member teach trainees how to play Meet'n'Fuck games

>>33568837
He looks like he's made out of old toffee.

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>>33565182
>>33569457
Russian sent something quite modern.... For once...

>>33568866
Checked. That is almost plausible. Neat.

>>33569730
not even close

>>33564834
>>33564290
>>33569694

>TFW hear news report about this on the drive home from work
>Fox news radio reporter bitch says the Russian ship is armed with "advanced-caliber cruise missiles"
What the fuck is an "advanced-caliber cruise missile"??

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>>33569776
Caliber (Kalibr) is a Russian submarine and ship launched cruise missile, similar to Tomahawk.

>>33569762
How so?

>>33561964
>>33563066
>>33564335
>>33565166

usa + russia Alliance probably
I dont see a war happening

In order to put down the mind controlled jihadists and all the merc armies the globalists have got you need to team up the two big world superpowers against them.

thats why Trump got pushed into office, for years he said he was considering it but he never got up the nerve til now

we dodged the bullet but he's still got to lay the deep state to rest before we can get that alliance going (out in public that is)

Globalists like to divide and conquer - rather than usa and russia fighting each other them joining forces is going to secure their fall.

>>33564277
>Ben Garrison always cuts to the horrible truth of the matter
Holy shit, Garrison is too fucking out there to be trusted on anything. He bought up bottles of red pills and shoved 'em in every orifice he has

>>33564277
>the constitution says you need congressional approval
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
NO IT DOESN'T
DOES NO ONE EVEN READ SUPREME COURT RULINGS
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/commander_in_chief_powers

>>33566058
>no helmet
Probably wouldn't have helped, but cmon son
cmon

>>33570347
The article does not mention SCOTUS ruling on executive powers as they concern military action. Only two rulings concerning detainees.

I do agree that the precedence is entirely that POTUS can act unilaterally.

Although I was here in 2011, when Libya happened and remember lolberterians bitching about Obama's action. No one said otherwise then.