Jap weapons

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>>33557417
Anime is weaponized autism

>>33557417
Love my type 38, would like a Murata and Type 30

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Bought a Type 38 not too long ago and now I've been reading more and more about the Imperial Japanese Army.
They certainly had their own way of doing things and even if it wasn't the best of the war, it's still extremely interesting.

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>Checking out this gun store for first time
>Walk in
>Tiny inside
>Absolutely nothing
>Few hunting bolt guns and lever actions on wall
>Holsters everywhere
>Mostly pistols in the counter display case
>Meh
>See a Type 99 on a rack
>Look over it
>Absolutely pristine stock, intact chrysanthemum, dust cover on gun, bayonet in sheath and bubble wrap
>Hory shet I want
>Look at price tag
>$400 price is crossed out, written on tag is "SOLD"
My tears fall like the petals of the Cherry Blossom in the wind.

>>33557417
>Anti aircraft sites
Those are called Batteries typically.


Them are some noice AA sights on that gun though.

>>33557728
Mind explaining? I never could understand the philosophy behind weeb weapon design.

>bayos on fucking everything because ammo shortage
>all those weird as fuck calibers
>WW1 era or even before designs

>>33557417
Were Japanese small arms any good?

Like many here I saw that Tales of the Gun episode about Japanese weapons when I was a kid so I've always thought their weapons were trash.

>>33558547

The early war production weapons were bretty gud

t. 1941-era Type 99 owner

>>33558547
Some were good, some weren't. Their rifles were pretty great, except for the late war ones.

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>>33557713
>Type 30
Rifle...?

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>>33557713
>>33558816
Or carbine?

>>33558816
rifle, although as a midget (5'6) I do love me those jap carbines

>>33558547
The Type 99 is one of the best bolt action rifles ever made. The 38 is also pretty damned good. The 30... eh it's ok.

>>33558287
Japan modernized very late compared to other nations. Up until the late 1800s they were very isolated.
A few western gun designs made their way into Japan and it inspired their designers. Comparing Japan's technology from that time to the start of WW1, they made a huge leap ahead considering they started much later than other nations.
From the Type 13 Murata in 1880, a single shot bolt action, to the Type 30 five round in 1889. Then the Type 38 in 1906. In a little over two decades they had a rifle equivalent to the rest of the world's powers.

The fascination with bayonets was due to their emphasis on offense as well as that their soldiers were typically smaller than Westerners. An army like Japan's relied on foraging for food so that meant constant movement and offense. Keep attacking, get food, continue until you've won and can fortify.
The various calibers were something they addressed a little bit, but the introduction of the 7.7mm threw things off a bit.

That's just the Army, their Navy is an equally impressive story. Tons of inspiration from the Royal Navy and ships built by the UK until Japan learned how to do it themselves.
I've read that during WW1 and WW2 some orders aboard IJN ships were given in English (Not sure if true though).

>>33557688
I would fuck satania's ass

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>>33557417

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>>33558287
their weapons remind me of organisms that have evolved in seclusion on little islands. theyre all weird as fuck but have adapted in their own way. i get the same vibe from russian stuff

>>33558984
>>33558958
shit wrong gun my bad.

As someone who owns both a Mauser and an Arisaka (Even though Nambu did most of the work on the 38 and 99) I can really appreciate just how simple the Japanese got the bolt design to be.
Comparing the two bolts, the Mauser's a bitch to take apart/ reassemble, meanwhile the Arisaka is just push end cap and twist.

Was Japanese infantry kit any good?

>>33559113
pretty standard, albeit maybe more resembling WW1 than other armies at the time, but it worked

>>33559180
It's commonly said that Japan had the best Army of World War I...in World War II

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The best planes the Japanese flew in the war

>>33558287
Bayonets were on everything because bayonet drills were used for morale purposes, alongside the revival of bushido as a propaganda tool.

As for calibers, none of them are out of the ordinary. 6.5mm Jap is a typical early adoption smokeless smallbore cartridge and 7.7mm Jap is almost identical to .303 British.

As for age of designs I don't really see what you're getting at. The Type 92 is a derivative WWI design but the rest of their weapons were no more outdated than most other major combatants.

>>33559274
What are they? Is the Zero one?

>>33558926
>I've read that during WW1 and WW2 some orders aboard IJN ships were given in English
While I can't vouch for that, the IJN (begrudgingly) provided the naval protection for Britains SEA colonies throughout WWI. Because Britain stole the Australian navy.

>>33559430
>the IJN (begrudgingly) provided the naval protection
The way I read it Japan was happy to because at that time they still felt honoured being in an alliance with Britain.

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Japanese carcano for 400 bucks. y/n? Not japanese made though.

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>>33559411
They're all captured American planes.
From background to foreground: B-17, P-47, BT-9(?)

>>33559704
yea, before bubba turns it into his durr huntin raffle

>>33559593
The refused to provide any of the Kongo-class for use in the Atlantic. Japan was happy and honored to take German possessions in the Pacific and bully China, they weren't much interested in anything else.

>>33560181
They provided destroyers and such for Atlantic/Mediterranean service though. I don't believe there was much need for one or two more battlecruisers. Destroyers, on the other hand...

>>33560231
Britain wanted the Japanese to send all four of them. USW was serious shit and Jellicoe was still insisting convoys were a dumb idea.

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>>33559710

middle is a curtiss wright 21

>>33560557
Whoops. So it is.
Thanks for the correction. Never heard of those until I looked it up.

>>33557417
Like a SAM site? What does that have to do with Arisakas though?

>>33560772
The irons on Arisakas had anti-aircraft sights built in. They expected the average soldier to shoot enemy aircraft using them.

>>33558872
Five four here stop complaining.

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>>33558872
Five foot four here stop complaining

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jap rifles best rifles

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>>33558287
They emphasized closing the distance because of their melee schools. Consider their enemies as well.

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>>33561401
>>33561421
5'3" here. The Type 99 is perfect for me.

I also like the Type 30 bayonet.

>>33561105
AA sights actually made sense at the time the rifle was introduced. Even interwar planes could be shot down by rifle fire in battery. The Chinese did not have a great air force.

You may think it's silly, but the AA sights are not nearly as dumb as people think now.

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This unconvincing transsexual actually has a nice Jap collection and website. She sets up at gun shows in western canada.
http://www.nambuworld.com/


http://www.nambuworld.com/

>>33560509
Just saying, need trumps want. Maybe they wanted some useless battlecruisers, but the 14 destroyers and 4 cruisers sent instead were more useful.

>>33559754
Or fucking shoots it as a "torture test" of battlefield conditions when instead it's redneck nationalism, possibly racism.. Looking at you iraqveteran.

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>>33557713
I would love a Murata too, even if I would never take it out to shoot it.

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>>33557417

>>33559704
I have one, absolutely love it and it is one of my best milsurp shooters. Before you purchase look at the two piece stock, the Italians didn't have the experience or technique down perfectly and many Type I stocks are coming apart at the joint between the two wood pieces.

I just sold my jinsen type 38 with dust cover. I miss shooting it now.

>>33561521
5'3" master race here as well. Steyr M95's and Carcano carbines get me hard

>>33558287
I don't remember the general that did this but one of the US generals found that 15-20% of American soldiers would actually shoot at the enemy(at their general area not actually shooting to kill). The Japanese would exploit this and could be able to get a lot of kills by running in and stabbing at the soldiers.

>>33557417
bamp

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Technically made in Japan.
S&w 3000 police

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>>33566802
>Carcano
my nigger
ignore the weeb game, posted this in a thread on /v/ a while back.

>>33564633
Yeah, there's a bit of a gap, not that bad though. I'm thinking about it, but it's a bit down on my list. Maybe I'll see if I can get it down to like 350.

>>33561521
>5'3"
I'm 5'8" and I find it embarrassing to be out in public.
I literally can't buy milk without wanting to kill myself on the way home.

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>>33571390
And that's your problem, not mine.

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I want a Type 11

>>33557417
>there is a paratrooper takedown ariska
I want.jpg.

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>>33572948
I've seen on at a show but I don't remember it having a price-tag. More of someone showing it off.
I never even really knew Japan had airborne forces until I saw it.

>>33572969
Imagine carrying one on in your backpack as a ccw.

>>33572977
I don't think it would be very quick in a situation. Cool as it would be

For wartime use, Japanese paratroops having their rifle with them is a lot better than the Fallschirmjager way of "Okay I landed, now I need to find the canister that has my gun in it. Oh it's stuck in a tree. Well fuck me."