ITT: Bad ideas

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>>33555057

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A classic

inb4F35

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>>33555057

>>33555238

Disney's Disney The Disney Bomber?

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>>33555057

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>>33555057

>>33555283
Lolol

>>33555270
>inb4 triggered stormfags/wehraboos//pol/

>>33555057
Sauce OP? What wehraboo conjured that...thing?

>>33555356
truly a horrible idea

>>33555371
The guys at Blohm und Voss.
http://www.luft46.com/bv/bvae607.html

>>33555270
I'm a /pol/a/k/ and I hate fascism. We just use Nazi iconography to trigger the fuck out of leftists.

>>33555263

That's pretty neat though

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>>33555238
Hey, it has that 50s Cold War Science-Fiction-Paranoia feel to it.

>>33555263
For what it's worth, the Sea Dart wasn't terrible for what they were trying to do. A supersonic jet fighter/ fleet defense interceptor for naval service was a tall order, considering that carrier technology, which could handle the Navy's equivalent of Century-Series-level tech, was in its infancy.

It was like a lot of experimental Cold War tech; it was fine at what it was designed to do, but the environment changed and made it obsolete. In this case, CATOBAR carriers caught up to the demands of big heavy jet fighters.

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>>33555232
dank u 4 cerbix

>>33555057

popular science general?

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HEAT arrows

>>33555238

Was that actually intended as a combat aircraft? it just looks like a highly stable transonic test aircraft.

>>33556133
Disney presents Planes 3: retarded ass designs

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yak-38

>can barely fly
>guzzles fuel
>can barely vtol
>has 4 hardpoints and a 2,00 lb bomb load
>has ejector seat that like to randomly go off
>likes to go into a death spin

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HERE COMES THE CAVALRY !

>>33556501
>Dwarfs in Total War: Warhammer

>>33555393

Get the fuck out of pol then cuck niggger.

>>33556501
Reminds me of luigi in his helicopter in the Super mario super show

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>>33556588
How does the new Total War handle melee fights ? Is it still one-on-one scripted scenes only, like in Empire ?

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>Error: You must wait 30 seconds before posting an image reply.
Fucking hell...

>>33556696
For singular Hero units, yes.

For the mass formations, no, it's front units vs front units (dwarf box formations with quarrellers in the middle OP)

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>>33556133
It was a one-off testbed, but they were legitimately looking for a solution to the low-speed handling problems of swept wings to hopefully later implement on combat jets. Same kind of deal as forward-swept testbeds. In the end, both approaches lost out to cropped deltas and trapezoidal wings (which have much less pitch-up tendency, especially when coupled with generous washout), and stall prevention methods including training, cockpit warnings and advanced flight control systems.

>>33555071
fug it, I want one

>>33556638
This

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>>33556729
Good, the 1v1 in formations was a big issue in the last games.

>>33556696
this looks like someone duct taped two pistols together

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>>33555057

>>33555239
>It was probably the largest (40 tons) tank ever made anywhere.
What a useless statement. There are definitely modern tanks that weigh more than 40 tons, maybe the Tsar Tank was the largest tank actually built in WWI, but it doesn't sound like that's what they mean. And maybe it's larger than anything before or since going by length, but if that's what they mean it's silly to bring up the weight.

>>33556550
>landraiderredemer.jpg

>>33556650
see also:
>blacks
>women

>>33556724
>T.Redcoat

>>33555057
OP's mom not getting that abortion

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>>33556823

>>33556402
>still a better plane than the F-35

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(((chocolate chip)))

>tested sparsely in southwestern deserts of u.s. in the early 70's
>solid tan uniform obviously superior
>6-color desert chosen because "i want camo"
>used during operation bright star '83-'85 and it blended in with fuck-all
>used during desert storm and it still sucked balls
>used in somalia and
>wait for it
>still doesn't blend in with shit

b-but hey... "cookie dough xD"

>>33557484
>F-35 has 10 hardpoints with 18,000 lb payload
>Yak-38 has 4 with payload of 4,400 lb

>>33556578
This feels like Sprey for the last century

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>>33556402

>>33557625
>chocolate chip
I'll fucking kill you. One of most aesthetic camos ever created

>>33555263
You shut your whore mouth about the sea dart. Anything that is supersonic and amphibious is fucking awesome.

Also, it wasn't half bad at what it was designed for. Think about being able to launch squadrons of aircraft without a carrier.

>>33556758

gotcha, thanks man. I wonder when will the powers that be realize very-low speed combat is an obsolete concept. Those kooky designs have to rape your Kinetic Energy while maneuvering

>>33555206
Is the objective to catch every possible bullet?

>>33556650
>combat patch
>not even a bullshit CAB
>maximum over POG

>>33559440
>I wonder when will the powers that be realize very-low speed combat is an obsolete concept
For all intents and purposes they already have. Sure, there's the meme-spouting masses that may think otherwise, but supermaneuverability really was only considered for a very brief period in the '80s before everyone who makes any kind of decisions realized that it wasn't worth the effort.

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>>33559057
fucking this

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>>33555238

this worked though

>>33560134
Just don't fall off of it, into the giant spinning blades...

>>33560741
>take a grazing bullet that barely hits the side of your forearm
>stumble and fall into chopper blades
Such is life in the zone

>>33557248
>maybe the Tsar Tank was the largest tank actually built in WWI, but it doesn't sound like that's what they mean
It does sound exactly like what they mean, especially considering the only other sentence in the paragraph points out the year. True that it could have been formulated better, but it's rather obvious nevertheless.

>>33555239
Confirmed BF1 Behemoth

>>33555256
Underrated

>>33557827
>3 internal bays but 'stealthy'.
>10 hard points, but stealthy as a thrown brick.

Pick one and only one.

>>33555232
Can you believe there was a time when intervention seemed as simple as an international coalition

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>>33556600
>>33556600
>>33556600

THOSE FUCKING DIGITS UNCHECKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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How about the coal fueled ramjet Nazi doom triangle? The Lippisch P.13a.

They were starting glider tests on this thing when the allies rocked up

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>>33556600
>4 dubs
Oh boi

>>33561058
>>33561126
it's been going around a lot. i've seen two other quad dubs today alone

>>33561129
It's like a cartoon character's outfit.

>>33561081
>supersonic with an airfoil that thick

Nice wind tunnels DVL

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>>33561214

That was one of things the US ran into when they tested the DM-1 prototype glider. Those foils produced crazy high drag.

>>33560134
>look ma no hands

>>33561310

there was an interrogation I read of Buseman after he was given a tour of us wind tunnels.

He specifically said that us high speed wind tunnels are much better than what the germans had, and that the us solved some issue the germans couldnt figure out. I cant remember what it was but it probably explains some of the sillier things the germans thought would work.

Like messerschmitt thinking blunt noses were fine for transonic/supersonic flight.

>>33560996
>As stealthy as a brick

So basically it's has absolutely no RCS. How is this bad?

>>33561489

This would make sense, given how goofy or outright wrong some of the German supersonic and hypersonic concepts got. Having a limited or incorrect understanding of very high speeds definitely would have contributed.

>>33561489
>us solved some issue the germans couldnt figure out
whitcomb area rule?
supersonic airfoil design?

>>33555071
>KENOBI

>>33556600
Soviet engineering confirmed shit.

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>>33561551

it was an issue with their wind tunnels, either data collecting or some flaw that was giving them bogus data.

I've been trying to find it but I cant right now.

>>33560029
>but supermaneuverability really was only considered for a very brief period in the '80s before everyone who makes any kind of decisions realized that it wasn't worth the effort.

You know the F-22 is a thing right?

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>>33556501
>>33556550
>>33556569
>>33556578
Can we all agree that the Popular Mechanics timeline is best timeline?

>>33556719
Eat shit revolver carbines are pure sex.

>>33556600
Checked

>>33562064
The f22s turning abilities Are kinda pointless Though
Everything is BVR these days

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>>33562144
>atoms for peace
man that whole idea was such an interesting period of history

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this fucking thing

>>33555283
shit recreation

>>33562262
How do you fondle the m203???

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>>33562144
>the Popular Mechanics timeline is best timeline?

>>33556600
I'm just a mere witness of awesomeness.

>>33556550
>they flatten enemy's
>enemy's

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>>33562576
I miss humanism. We evolved to fuck like everything else, but instead of getting bigger teeth, we learned to invent. Creating is what we're built to do, and I miss the culture of romanticizing that. That "why don't we" tagline is so goddamn cheesy, but it's fucking profound. Why Don't We is the purpose of life. I hate to see that discarded in the name of pragmatism or demonized in the name of arcadianism.

GMO's are the worst offender. The life's work and passion of countless individuals culminates in an incredible, beautiful technology that could end world hunger, and it gets a scary three letter acronym so it can be shunned as much as possible.

My fucking face when.

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>>33555270

u shut ur whore mouth

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>>33556724

kys

>>33560134

tfw living in the 1950s, when America was White and spinning death blades in the park were hunky dory

>>33562262

sauce?
where can i buy two? (one for each hand)

> tfw commiefornian

>>33556650

Y-You're supposed to roll in dirt with it,you know?adapt t-to the environment.

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>>33556650

No. Fuck you.

I would KILL for UCP.

Goddamnmotherfucking NWUs.

>>33562144
Dude. This. If the Popular Mechanics editors were on charge of reality we'd be flying personal supersonic dirigibles on Mars and all of our meals would be in pill form. I feel cheated.

>>33562805
KAC ChainSAW

>>33555057
>Bad ideas
National Socialism.

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The pinaclle of Italian military engineering:
Avia LM02.
Dive bombing glider designed for an attack on Gibraltar.

When Germans seize Aviacionaria Vercollesa Aeronautiche in 1943 they ordered all designs and documents that factory were working on to to be handed over to them. When among them they find out this baloney, they were sure that this is a mockery and almost put the leading engineer Pieraldo Mortara in front of firing squad for sabotage.

>>33557248
Silly american weight is not a factor when you talk about dimensions.

>>33556724
Only when you take into accout to wat it degenerated since 1900.

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>>33563087
>not this beauty
>monocoque AND steel tube frame
>tail that would be blanked by external stores
>performance impacted by dust filters so much that some planes couldnt take off
>one pilot found that he couldnt turn without stalling
>he had to fly across the med in a straight line

amazing piece of pasta engineering

>>33555270
If you are referring to the Kriegsmarine you aren't far off. Germany's decision to build new Bismarck class battleships created political tension with Britain and once the war with britain broke out, they were in too small numbers against the royal navy.
The money that went to the Kriegsmarine would have been better spent on developing the Wehrmacht.

>>33556600
get

>>33561141
Of course you did
The post numbers go in order, there was a quad dub every 11th post 10 times in a row, you can find all 10 of those posts somewhere on this board right now

>>33556638
>>33556781

Get the fuck out of /k/, media sheeps.
Go back to be political hipsters, on /pol/.

>>33556550

I read these as a series of exasperated reports on other countries' developments, especially the land battle ship one.

"Oh for fuck sake, now it's land battleships..."

>>33562787
White people, left alone, tend to do stupid shit.

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I often wonder what it would be like to combine the Thunderscreech, Project Pluto and the Tsar Bomb into one.

>>33555206
Good idea, poor execution.

>>33563340
What, a huge nuclear powered propeller drone that gives people the shits?

>>33563087
With the German fetish for turning absolutely everything into a fucking dive bomber, they probably gave him a medal

>>33557312
>blacks
>implying niggers aren't natural-born killers

These are all good idea, you're just a bunch of un creative faggots

>>33563426

The shits and the rads.

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>>33555071
Buzzsaw ready! Point me at those Spice fields!

>>33563130
But hey, it looks great.

>>33562666
>they flatten enemy's (tanks)
there's nothing wrong with that sentence

>>33563130
>one pilot found that he couldnt turn without stalling
>he had to fly across the med in a straight line

Not a very plausible story

>>33561129
Goddamn that looks like dogshit.

>>33562064
F-22's thrust vectoring came about because, when the ATF requirements were devised, the USAF wanted STOL. The F-22 was supposed to use thrust vectoring to meet that requirement, and it was decided that they'd keep it even after the requirement was dropped because it had minimal negative impact on the aircraft.

Supermaneuverability never really was part of the final requirements.

>>33563353
The existence of this thing still scares me, mainly because it's possible to just produce multiple copies and have them do flybys over an area until everyone is dead.

>>33563340
gave a guy a fit

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>>33557625
That last one is the greatest camo.
It even lets you sneak up on Batman.

>>33556724
Fuck off back to bongistan you shitskin cuck

>>33563353
It was a very bad good idea

>>33561081
>>33561214
>>33561310
>>33561489
>>33561549
It was a ramjet engine deigns, but not necessarily a supersonic application.

What made these things so interesting was that they ran on a novel continuous coal dust feed system, that needed the high pressures to run right thus the ramjet setup.

So the real attraction was that this aircraft was it ran on coal with a relatively cheap and simple design that was easy to build. It didn't use any of the many other liquid petrol fuels, which was why they wanted it given how hard that was to get late in the war. The idea was they could make a lot of these quickly and run them off of their local coal sources to stop the allied advance.

Performance wise they were terrible, but they did show that you could make a working aircraft very cheap that ran on coal. Something that nobody else ever did, mostly because the performance gains of using a liquid petrol fuel were so much better.

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>>33556724
My my what a SUPERB post

>>33559057
>liking a camouflage for it's look rather than it's ability to do it's sole job well


You're the reason shit like UCP gets approved

>>33564022
Actually with the newer nuclear light bulb engines it could work and not produce the flyby fall out. So the ideas really just needs some minor changes.

But nobody talks about the light bulb engine because if that bulb ever shatters, well let's barrow a Bond quote "it'll make Chernobyl look like picnic"

>>33562677

GMO hate is like the left's version of climate denial, it totally ignores science

Don't worry anon, the beautiful thing about creating is that it can be done on an individual level. Not every creator was appreciated or recognized in their time.

>>33564133
especially when you consider that technically all food from domesticated animals and plants are GMOs. Also, pets are GMOs.

>>33564133
I feel like the whole GMO hate thing stemmed from real complaints about GMOs - the companies that create them tend to be a bit less than ethical at times. But then all people saw was
>GMO's
>Bad thing
and it morphed into
>GMOs are bad

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This abomination

>>33562061

What am I looking at ?

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>>33565171

>>33556836

In order to not be labeled a "machine gun" by the ATF, thats essentially what they did

>>33562262
That looks like it belongs in a video game

>>33563910
Why is sherlock slapping Darth Vader

>>33566276
I feel like that was a prop from a Schwarzenegger movie.

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Western imperialist barbarians BTFO.

>>33562677
My problem with GMOs is when big companies like Monsanto patent certain types of grain or whatever and then smaller farmers get shit on because the wind blew some special grain onto their farm and Monsanto sues them for growing it without their permission.

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180m wingspan.

>>33566625
>>33566649
Was it ever built?

>>33566745

No. Not even the Japanese could muster enough megalomania to conjure it to existence. Nevertheless, until 1943 Kawanishi was seriously considering its feasibility.

>>33556823
Hey, at least its well executed

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>>33566625
>>33566649
Jesus, those japs were thinking about Ace Combat something like 70 years prior.

>>33562144
>amphibious nuclear powered airship
What could go wrong.jpg

Even though literally every US derigible crashed due to inclement ocean weather I wish they had built this

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>>33562144

I want to see that thing battle against pic related. Am I a bad person?

>>33567313
You'd be a bad person to not want to see them fight.

>>33566842

we have GPS and satellite weather now, also blimp tech is much better meaning pilots get more control

>>33556696
They did it in Shogun 2, but not in Attila. I dunno about Rome 2, never played.

>>33567428
It was the same in Rome 2 : if unit A of 20 men fought unit B of 10 men, only 10 men in unit A would be fighting duels and the others would watch, waiting for their turn. It made flanking with several units a bit pointless.

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>>33561081

>>33559797
POG detected

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>>33555057

I swear that I will never see the end of weird experiment aircraft from WW2

>>33560884
That would be amazing

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>>33559057
>>33560131

>doesn't even work in our own deserts
>adopted anyways because "aesthetic"
CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP

>>33566649
>>33566625
Reminds me of the fuckheug OSA transport planes from Wolfenstein: The New Order.

>>33564024
I'm trying to imagine how long it could fly. It's absolutely tiny and I don't see where you could put a gun.

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>>33567762

Those things. Their design triggers me fiercely.

>>33555239

seems like they tried to make a self propelled cannon

>>33561129
What the fuck are those boots?

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bad ideas? All of our military's protective masks after ww2

>army wants replacement for m17 series which was already a piece of shit
>needs to be lightweight and 40mm threaded because we fucked up by adopting porkchop filters
>ilc dover be like "ok"
>cue xm29
>panoramic mask made of clear silicone
>40mm threaded, filter can be placed on either side, drink tube, etc
>seems to meet requirements
>butwaittheresmore.png
>turns out silicone is shit at protecting against mustard gas
>respond by coating silicone with sppecial coating
>coating often turns a frosty white opaque color, hindering vision
>fuck
>ilc dover's next solution was to literally fucking bake the masks in ovens if they became 'frosted'
>army be like "lol no"
>cure the xm30
>basically the same as the xm29, except it has a separate polyurethane lens bonded to the silicone
>going well
>did i say 'going well' i actually meant to say they couldn't fucking bond the lenses right
>army ends up wasting 5 million on the project before giving up and continuing to use the m17

(cont.)

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>>33567896
>in steps fucking scott aviation (currentlly called scott safety)
>notices xm30 project
>"OwO wats this???"
>pitches design to the us navy and air force as the mcu-2/p
>actually fucking lands the contract
>while scott aviation is in over their heads trying to produce the mcu, the army still wants to replace the m17
>considered adopting the british s-10 for a while
>ilc dover tries again and actually makes a competent design
>ilc xm40 is a little heavy, but would be super easy to produce, easier to integrate into service (basically a silicone m17 with 40mm threads), and would not have the silicone protective problems as it used a hood that covered all the silicone
>fucking scott aviation gets a whiff of the xm40 trials in the midst of producing mcu masks for the navy
>scott aviation takes xm30 mold, casts in green silicone, patches a chunk of solid silicone with two lenses where the single polyurethane lens would be
>"I'M HELPING"
>scott aviation actually manages to land xm40 contract because army was afraid that ilc would fuck up their superior design
>now scott has more shit to produce
>surprise, surprise, scott aviation can't fucking keep up with demands
>army has only 500 m40 masks by the gulf war and continues to use m17
>navy barely has enough mcu mask and continues using the older navy diaphragm mark v mask with a few m17's here and there
>after the gulf war, scott aviation sells m40 and mcu contracts back to msa and ilc dover
>WEW LAD

>>33560741
>>33560861
There's a strap locking his feet in.

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>this will not backfire

>>33567762
>>33567799
Oh god.. all that aerodynamic drag.

>>33566812
At least the P-1112 & KX look like it could fly.


>>33567313
>>33562144
>Nuclear powered Airships
Fuck yes! Just make them run on small Thorium reactors.. or that Lockheed Martin "Compact Fusion" unit.

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Tally ho chaps.

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I say, let's give the beastly Boche a sound trashing, shall we?

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>>33555393

Yeah, sure... It's ironic I swear!

>>33556578
>one stray bullet hits the leg to the track
>tank disabled

>>33566629
Except that has literally never happened. Every single time Monsanto has sued someone and the farmers tried to use that defense, it was found that the vast majority of their crops were Monsanto crops, meaning they did it intentionally.

Anti-GMO folk like to bring up this point, but go ahead and find me one single court case where Monsanto tried to sue a farmer and it wasn't justified.

>>33567919
>start falling over
>legs are trapped, mess with your senses
>feet don't get chopped, but everything else does

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>>33568061
But we, that are not shaped for sportive tricks...

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>>33555057

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>>33555057

>>33555071
That's a good idea though

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>>33559057
>One of most aesthetic camos ever created
>One of [fucking the before mate] most aesthetic
yeah.. about that..

>>33567799
disgusting

>>33567899
How the fuck was there not a competent American manufacture able to take up the job?

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>>33568543

>>33568936
daily reminder CADPAT blows all other wooded camo patterns out of the water

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>>33555057
Fuck this gun and every fudd who likes it.

>>33569144
I'd figure fudds would hate it.

>>33568844
>still upset squid has 3

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Nuclear powered flying aircraft carrier.

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>>33562144
yes

spezmarines

i used to own the copy my image is from but forget the story

something about keeping 10K marines in LEO for a moments notice

pretty sure this was just a couple of years after command and conquer: tiberium sun, which is probably where they had the idea

>>33569359
I thought it was that the Marine Corps could land a platoon anywhere on Earth in 2 hours.

>>33569525
you could be right, but i thought they were going to drop ship them

>>33569359

I remember a bit of the story: Marines in LEO which allows them to circumvent airspace restrictions (because those have upper limits) allowing deployment into landlocked countries without having to negotiate with surrounding countries. Because neither the aircraft or space station are actually armed, this also circumvents the "no weapons in space" rule. Extraction was the hard part, since the aircraft didn't have the ability to return to orbit, so whoever got to the ground would have to wait for traditional extraction.

The whole thing was, of course, prohibitively expensive, from having to design all the new vehicles, the energy required to move these things (and the marines) into orbit, and the maintenance of both material and personnel in orbit. You'd need a space elevator to make this remotely feasible from an economic perspective, and space elevators are also pretty much a pipe dream at this point. Couple that with no extraction plan, and you've got a recipe for a dead dream.

>>33569534
Now that I think about it, having ten thousand men orbiting Earth would probably cost more than the amount of total tax revenue the U.S. government collects each year.

>>33569541
>>33569359
It would have to be more than 10k marines. Keep in mind the support staff required for those 10k marines.

>>33563801
I miss the Cold War. Shit was balls to the wall crazy, like USAF's plan to dick wave at the Soviets by nuking the moon.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_A119

>>33569542
Station them on the moon.

>>33564185
Vaccines had a similar problem. Older versions had mercury preservatives, and that shit was legitimately not great for you. Now risk now, but the idea stuck and we're paying for it.

I suspect the GMO ethics issue is probably one of inverted cause and effect. GMOs are only being used by companies that weren't going the organic route anyway, so they're much less driven to use parts of the process that may be beneficial. There's no reason other operations shouldn't be using GMOs, but they don't because muh organic buzzword. The copyrights are a bit of a bitch, but

A)buying the license to use it is still necessarily more efficient financially than not, or nobody would
B)There needs to be some reason to develop shit like that at all. If it gets immediately handed to competitors, there isn't one. This is why copyright law exists. Besides, you can't trademark the idea, only the method. Maintaining that propriety encourages innovation in the process on the part of other firms. Odds are we don't exactly have the best, most cost effective way of doing it yet, but a technological arms race would get us there. Either way, the copyright will drop in a few decades and shit will explode then

But only if anyone will buy it, and continue to buy until then. So long as the idea that GMOs give you spaceAIDs and science could/should sticks around the traction of the idea will be limited.

>>33561129
I don't know why, but I feel like a waist belt or waist sash would fix this uniform...but the colors seem off, more like a Police Uniform. I'd want a black jacket with blue trim and green pants and Barret with blue trim and all brass accents for metal stuff like the buttons.

>>33562144
Crazy thing is, I feel like we could make a super high altitude armored war blimp that has anti missile defense and can act as a drone bomber mini carrier.

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>>33567313
>mfw born too late to satisfy both the seafaring and airfaring itch at once

We need those cargo airship concepts flying. Nuclear airship cruise line when?

>>33562839
You know, the Navy uniform would make for great urban camo with a bit more grey for cops and night ops commandos.

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>>33556724
During the early days of America's birth did everyone have British accents?

>>33570165
I still think that we should have dirigible drones just as observation platforms that loiter forever. Station a bunch of them along the border to help the Trump Wall.

>>33561129
Why did they change uniforms when the previous uniforms were easily 10/10?

>>33567799
The double tail?

The ball turrets look like they can't move around much.

Looks more like a space fighter from 40k

>>33570200
They say the British accent of that time period sounded more like current American deep south than modern English.

>>33567799
Does that nose gun just spin around on an axis for no reason while always facing the same direction? That's sure as hell what it looks like it does

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It isn't fair, they fought for our country ; [

>>33570203
This, I mean, sure maybe some of the cartels are rich enough to have stingers or buy surface to air missiles but honestly we can deploy lots of stuff in area's where the enemy doe not have anti air.

The problem with the American public or at least the politicians that okay R&D for weapon systems are easily made nay Sayers because of famous events or even movies.

We fixed the problem with blimps years ago and they are totally safe now a days but thanks to the Hindenburg, the publics confidence in air ships has been shattered forever

Similar, America and more specifically the Marines could benefit greatly from a hind like helicopters. A heavy ground Attack Chopper that can also transport and drop off a squad or two of soldiers to take ground would be fantastic and maybe would have helped in that incident where Navy Seals were impatient and took off in near defenseless transport choppers and not have attack helicopter support to clear the LZ but thanks to Afghanistan and out stinger killing platoons of Russians in Hinds without ECM at the time, politicians would rather explain to the public that only two crew members die in an attack helicopter crash instead of also a full squad of troops.

I think the USA can make an attack helicopter with flares and ecm that can carry a squad.

>>33570362
>Not retrofitting all those downed bombers and cargo jets into passenger carriers
>Not raking in airliner money in an industry with more customers than the current companies can handle

>>33555393

>notallfacists

>>33568936

> that god-awful salute

F I L T H Y

>>33568501
it was a prototype. You are literally like the people of the "Renaissance" who mocked more ancient and advanced cultures while destroying history to prove your point.

He was secured at the mid and feet. the chopper was clearly operating on min power, and had weighted feet.

http://www.airvectors.net/avplatfm.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Lackner_HZ-1_Aerocycle


This shit was for a nuclear battlefield. FUCK. I need to go drink. Cant even invent one flying platform, live an immortal life to the present fucking year without people digging shit up and mocking it ever fucking decade.

>>33568936
what the fuck is wrong with his hand? Why arent his fingers touching the tip of his hat or eye brow? Why the fuck aren't his fingers closed together and thumb at the side, is he gonna scratch his ear?

We were both descendant from Prussia, but apparently despite being trained by a fag one of our countries armies ended taking after great grandpappy.

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These are the hardest fucking jets to fix in the USAF. There are nearly a dozen completely different versions with different setups, parts, everything, and we have to know how each and every one of them works, inside and out. We use a TO (manual) for all of the work we do and its a pain because the jets were built by boeing and modified by l3 communications, so the TOs, written by both companies engineers, are written and worded completely differently. Working on other jets is much more straightforward, much simpler.

>>33570390
and they sit there, so the can become organ donors

its okay anon, a piece of them will fly again

>>33570407
IIRC most bombers are not pressurized, i believe it would cost too much to turn them into commercial planes, although that is a great idea

>so anon booked one of those new emerite flights?
>fuck that i'm flying a B52

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>>33555283
What video is this?

>>33570628
Think about it for a second.
Now that you have done so its on the other channel he helps with.

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>>33556650
Women in the military?

Also, checked

>>33570693
What on inrange? I just looked. I've watched all the vids but i haven't seen thisn' What's it called champ?

>>33570590
my misery nigga. My fellow 2A. 2A6X6 Here. Well, retired now. But still.

>>33557625
>doesn't even work in our own deserts
but that's wrong tho
the american southwest is one of the few places it did work
that's why it was adopted

>>33570832
HMG STG QA #something

>>33570844

Holy shit, you're E/E too?

I got to Offutt just over a month ago, haven't actually worked on the jets yet, but soon. Couldn't have been happier with my assignment.

>>33566842
>Even though literally every US derigible crashed due to inclement ocean weather
Actually that's really only true of the Akron and Macon, and maybe a few of the blimps. The Shenandoah crashed over Ohio (so not really "ocean weather") and even then it was only because the commander removed the automatic safety valves and thus rendered it unable to cope with rapid altitude changes. And the Los Angeles survived until retirement in 1940. Even the Macon was lost more to stupidty than weather, the Navy was informed that the tail lacked structural strength but they got all ridiculous and refused to let the ship be taken out of service for repairs, and ultimately lost the ship when the upper fin (the only one that hadn't been reinforced by that point) was torn off by crosswinds.

>>33568361
>t. monsanto shill

>>33570551
From the video it doesn't look like there's any substantial restraints at the waist or above, but if they did have it, then yeah, that makes it slightly less stupid. I don't see how minimum power is relevant, though.

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>>33570893
Solid tan was still the better option until tri-color was created. They had three years of operation bright star to figure out 6-color was shit in middle eastern deserts

>>33571012
>Solid tan was still the better option until tri-color was created
proofs?
I'm honestly interested

>>33567794
Gun? You use a sword and challenge individual pilots to single combat at ten thousand feet, as God intended.

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>>33567313
>feeling bad for wanting to see the glorious kirov airship in real life

>>33555283
>>33555327
>an Alpha phase test product has flaws
wow its fucking nothing

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>>33561081
Is there a book or website dedicated to this thing? I'd love to read more about it.

>>33565171
id buy one

>>33563433
>>>33563087
>With the German fetish for turning absolutely everything into a fucking dive bomber, they probably gave him a medal
>Snickered.

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>>33556550
but can we at least agree this is a fucking awesome concept

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>>33556402
Why does that look so much like a Harrier?

>>33555071
You must realize, you are doomed

>>33566276
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9eibp_EOII
Probably because it is in a video game. The gun came first but I refuse to believe that. It's too fucking dumb to be real

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>>33572276
Soviets were notorious for copying.

>>33572879

Oh snap a TU-4. Lgend has it they copied it so exactly it even had the Boeing lettering on the control yokes.

>>33572906
The first few even had USAF roundels on them, until they realised their mistake.

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>>33572906
>>33572944
last time I posted that picture some vatnik was like
>no no no no it wasn't russia/USSR that copied it, it was stalin, all stalin!!

>>33572944
They even forced the pilots to speak over the radios with fake American accents, first few classes graduated with Canadian accents and Stalin had them all shot, then deported to Kazakhstan.

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>>33562839
Never wore that till I got out. It was too hot for full uniform in Hawaii. Now I wear it if it is raining and I am riding my moped. Wish I got a hold of a type 3 one.

>>33572995
kek

>>33555283
Btw why are Ian and Carl shilling that much for HMG? People on /k/ always call MAC out on shilling but never InRange even though they are ultra shills.

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>>33561672
>>33572541
These

>>33561489
The US was prompted to look at compressibility fairly early on due to the prewar P-38 falling out of the sky and all, so it may be simply that the US was prompted to build transonic wind tunnels earlier on and therefore was years ahead of the game.

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>>33555371
The same people who made this.

>Actualy a decent recon plane

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>>33568543
I have a fetish for huge unwieldy aircraft. Too bad they can never seem to fly.

>>33571410
The only thing that bugs me is the fact she's being fed literal tongues you ripped out.

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>>33559440
Well for one thing, "low-speed" may have been a bit too specific. "Stall characteristics" would have been more accurate, and they are relevant in high-subsonic, high-G combat as well (accelerated stalls). Though the low-speed regime is still important as well, not (only) for combat but especially for takeoff and landing, where losses occur every bit as frequently as in combat itself (if not even moreso).

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>>33573697
Some did.

>>33574339
my gut is telling me that this might possibly be a shoop

>>33561129
Why do Yankee uniforms always look like shit? They always look sloppy and unkempt, like a postal worker's uniform.

>>33568029
>>"Sir! The new plane won't fly."
"Add some more wings."

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>>33572879
....

>>33571048
scroll up to my first post on it since apparently you were too daft to examine it the first time
solid tan matches the background better
no matter what your argument for this case, the shit they adopted just didn't work over in the middle east and we didn't figure that out in the 3+ years we were over in egypt fucking about with it

>>33563353
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Iib3Z0dhDk

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>>33555283
>STG with a PMAG

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>>33561081

oh Lippisch

>"I've designed a rocket fighter that melts its own pilot"
>I don't think that is very practical Herr Lippisch
>"ok how about a coal-powered death triangle"

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sup nerds

>>33555283
I wonder when Ian and Karl are gonna do a mud test with this. Or would they stop getting money from HMG if it happened to fail?

>>33570953
>it was only because the commander removed the automatic safety valves
For what purpose

>>33561129
>>33570215
Army Greens were perfect

>>33567313
CCCP Worker's Voyage when

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>>33575658

>Mayday mayday, we are under attack by imerialist air pirates

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>>33575687

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*thunderstorm in background*
*buzzing laboratory noises*
>SCIENCE!
>BEHOLD, MEIN LATEST KREATION: COAL POWERED FLYING MASCHINE!
>NEIN! NINCOMPOOP, DON'T TOUCH IT, YOU BREAK IT!
*thunderstorm intensifies*
>SOON, DEY WILL AKNOVLEDGE MEIN GENIUS. THOSE AMATEUR HORTEN BROTHERS WILL NO LONGER MAKE FUN OF ME.

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>AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHA
>BEHOLD, MEIN KRIEGBLITZFLIEGERSEGELFLUGKAMPFZERSTÖRERMASCHINE, WHERE IST YOUR GOTT NOW?
>I'M GENIUS

>>33560933
oy gevalt zummwalt

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>>33575687

>Fighters, launching now!

>>33566625
That's a big plane.

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>>33575776
>>33575687

Cheerio chaps. My, I hesitate to be confrontative but you see, you're in His Majesty's airspace right now and unless you want to be in His Majesty's territorial waters instead I must politely ask you to take your leave with great haste.

>>33572906
It was copied after one B-29 that landed in USSR after bombing Japan.
Stalin ordered that the entire plane has to copied EXACTLY as it was and ordered the engeneers to not even bother with metric-imperial conversion, just make a copy.
Now, one of the crew members forgot his camera in the cockpit when they were forced to leave the plane
...and they copied the camera along with the rest of the plane, just in case.

>>33555238
That looks like a kids first drawing of an airplane

>>33575815
For you

>>33571377
>they still said it was great when it ftf
>this was 2 1/2 years into development
>they worked on aesthetic before performance
wow it's a fucking shit show

>>33556823
>ACU
This triggers me. ACU is a cut, not a pattern. And they pattern on that rifle isn't even UCP.

>>33569119
Now they just need to make the uniforms out of something other than papyrus and they'll be golden.

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>>33555256

>>33566625
>tfw I will never cower in fear of the bombing run across the continental US this could of accomplished

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>>33571410

http://www.luft46.com/

Hyland, Gary; Anton Gill (1999). Last Talons of the Eagle

>>33568867
>Hunter 3-1 Actual
>only oldfags remember
remember what? the time before this meme plagued /k/?

>>33576180
Nice meme, newfriend

>>33555071
The thread is bad ideas, you posted a good idea

>>33556569
>>33556578
Typical Frank.

>>33557248
Were you rejected for service based on your autism?

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>>33561489
American wind tunnel.

>>33562144
Airships and flying cars.

Also, Frank needed to think up something wacky for each issue.

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>>33556569
wait a minute...

>>33576487
Thought the same

>>33570113
>Vaccines had a similar problem. Older versions had mercury preservatives, and that shit was legitimately not great for you.

C2H5Hg+

I bet you think salt is deadly because it contains chlorine.

Anyway, due to panicky folks claiming gloom and doom, vaccines don't have mercury-based preservatives, and haven't since 1999. Also, they don't cause autism.

>>33572906
They copied a patch on the back. They knew it was a patch, but they were given orders to make an exact copy. They didn't know if the people watching them would report them for not making a stupid patch, but weren't going to risk it.

You see Ivan, if you follow orders, maybe you won't be shot.

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Tanks towed shit.

>>33575554
They tended to open even when not really needed (which is kind of the whole point of safety valves, it's better for them to act when not needed rather than fail to act when they are needed), not enough to dangerously reduce the lift, however it did waste helium which was expensive (other nations' airships didn't have this problem, since they used cheap but flammable hydrogen).

>>33570391
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Red_Wings
Or you could be remembering the movie Lone Surviver which was about it.

>>33576636
That's actually a good idea though. Especially in the interwar period, there's really nothing better for long-range naval air recon, planes can't fly far enough from land by themselves, and regular carriers are more expensive, half the speed of an airship, and are vulnerable to torpedoes and battleships.