>yfw you remember ruby ridge

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>>33551741
Actually met Randy at a gunshow in Mason Michigan years ago. Talked with him for a few minutes and he signed a book a bough from him. Strange feels man.

>>33551782
* I bought

Fuck.

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>>33551741
I find it funny how most people who are older than me (I'm 18 btw) don't know about either Ruby Ridge or Waco.

Oh and the part where Janet Reno ordered the kidnapping of a Cuban kid despite laws that protect him.

May that bad ugly bitch burn in hell.

>>33551890
This.
>be 30, wife is 36
>she didn't know what Waco or Ruby Ridge were until I told her

>>33551911
That fucking get!

>>33551911
Worse yet, I'm pretty sure most people don't remember the truck bombing in the twin towers or the Oklahoma bombing.

Is this some sort of out of sight out of mind thing?

>>33551928
And I wasted it, sorry /k/.

>>33551911
Big shocker. I'm sure she knows all about Instagram and the Kardashians though.
>>be 30, wife is 36
>wife is 36
You dun goof'd

>>33551911
>wife is 36

Please tell me you at least had some kids already

>>33551964
>be a poorfag when we first get together
>moves me into her house, pays off my car, buys me a motorcycle
>she's a pharmacy technician, always makes good money
>she works for the county now, we bought a nice house
Keep your gold digging little girls.
>>33551977
Not yet, and she's in a panic over it.

>>33552003
Have you two tried conceiving a child yet?

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>>33552003
>Keep your gold digging little girls.
kek, happily. Enjoy changing your old ladies Depends and chasing after your retard kid(s) she shits out.

>>33552013
For the last 6 years. Fertility treatments can get expensive, and we're just about to hit the big shit.

>>33552033
Have fun knowing that your genetic line is over.

>>33552033
Is this wife infertile? 36 seems rather, ya know, young to have fertility problems.

Is this hormonal or is there organ damage?

Sorry if I'm becoming to intrusive, just curious.

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>>33551890
Illegals aren't subject to the protections of U.S. laws child.

>>33552077
Might have a udi in the arm and keeping it secret.

>>33552067
Yep.
>>33552077
She has trouble ovulating.

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>>33551741

>>33552067
It's for the best. Nature has a way of not letting the undesirables procreate.

>>33552159
>octomom
>Kate plus 8
>honey boo boo
>kardashians

>>33552187
Crazy. And yet anon can't have a kid with his geriatric wife. It just doesn't seem fair.

>>33552119
Has the doctor ever said why? Have you guys thought of artificial insemination (is that the expensive shit)?

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>>33552101
>what is Cuban Adjustment Act

>>33552316
Doctor has no idea. Artificial insemination wouldn't help, my sperm count is 3x normal. She's done a couple of rounds of drugs to help make her ovulate, might do some more with that, but IVF is the expensive step.

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>>33552393
Has she been taking hormones, like Gonadocorticoids (sex hormones) or Gonadotropin? Follice stimulating hormone (FSH) is important for egg production, as well as Luteinizing hormone (stimulates ovulation).

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>>33552356
lmfao
That doesn't apply to people whose mothers drown trying to illegally immigrate into the county.

>>33551911
My 33 yo friend didn't know who Joseph fucking Stalin was, standards vary. Never got over that one though.

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>>33552547
>laws don't apply when I don't want them to

Spoken like a true liberal.

Anyhow, that apparently wasn't the reason he was deported. It was just a custody battle blown out of proportion.

>>33552511
I have no idea what she's taking.

>>33552702
I suggest you ask her or the doc and look it up. Hormone treatment might help.

Out of curiosity, what kind of insurance do you have?

>>33551911
Damn 36 and didn't remember Waco. I remember watching that shit on channel one in junior high school.

>>33552003
Just pop a couple out, they're actually pretty cool once they get old enough to do shit

>>33551741
>tfw your uncle was the FBI HRT commander during Ruby Ridge and Waco

Him and my dad have talked about it at various points throughout my whole life so I can never forget about it.

>>33552316
I'm sure like 90% of American women she was on birth control for 15 years. No way that could have any negative side effects when it comes to makin da babies

>>33553401
Does he have any regrets?

>>33553427
Yeah, obviously. He's talked about how he rationalized the RoE in both situations, but he fucked up pretty hard both times, and his career was finished after Waco. He was a Special Forces officer in Vietnam, so he was used to dealing with threats in a quick and deadly manner, so I think his fault was applying a military mindset to civilian situations.

>>33552101
But they are.

>>33553401
Fucking what? How does he feel about how they played out? Also what does he think of the burns situation?

>>33553584
Trump Russia Putin Syria gas chemical attack Assad healthcare pizza Rice unmasking gorsuch obama bannon security council

>>33553584
Jesus fuck I hate you soooo much.

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>>33552101

>Illegals aren't subject to protections of US laws then
>They are now
>Obama got rid of the wet-foot/dry-foot policy to appease the Castros
>States or cities autistically screech if we try and eject illegals back to Mexico.

I ain't even Cuban but seems because they aren't plantation niggers the democrats can't be happier throwing them back to the Gommies in Havana

>>33553584
This.
>be a potential domestic terrorist hiding in woods making illegal firearms
>shoot at cops
>get BTFO
>muh 1776 I'm a soverign citizen

Do these people have no concept of history or law or are they just looking for an excuse to shoot at cops.

>>33553630

>Do these people have no concept of history or law or are they just looking for an excuse to shoot at dogs

>>33553518
I thought Waco was ATF fuck up?
What did he do once he was fired? I assume he's retired now.

>>33553630
>shooting an unarmed woman holding a baby

SERVE AND PROTECT

>>33553639
>be FBI HRT operator
>spend years training with SFOD-D
>recieve intel that there are potential terrorists hiding out in forest
>conduct recon operation
>get attacked by dogs
>get shot at
>sus.jpg
>return fire
>be villanized and used a propaganda fuel for a soverign citizen movement who's primary ideology is "laws I don't like don't apply to me and if you disagree I grant myself power to shoot at you"
>don'tgiveafuck

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>>33553679

>Be ATF on /k/
>Get salty about doggo memes
>Own a cat and shooting it with your water pistol isn't as much fun and the wife yells at you
>Bait on /k/

>>33551951
Nah senpai on topic gets are the best
>>33551741
My mom didn't know who Adolf Hitler was until I told her. She was 30 years old at the time.
>>33552698
Hard to believe people like that exist.

>>33553695
>be cat
>getting shot at for fun by my owner
>don't understand, so I browse his internet history
>find out about /k/
>barricade myself in room w fixed bayonets

>>33553699
>Anyone that empathizes with those terrorists are either edgy 10 year olds or terrorists themselves
Hey buddy how's your butthole feeling after that big stretch?

>>33553574
See >>33553518

Don't know what you mean by "burns situation."

>>33553735
When those dumbfucks last year occupied the wildlife refuge.

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>>33553725
Topkek.

>>33553704

My brother wasn't sure if the Pope was Christian. Before someone is cheeky this is 2010-2011ish so we're talking Ratzinger and we were both baptized Catholic (never taken to church), his girlfriend was Catholic. I don't think he meant it in a Protestant kind of "Are Catholics Christian" but rather "Whose this pope guy is he Jewish or Pagan or Communist or something?

>>33553719

Nigger you are tripfagging and you are literally a sensitive snowflake about "ATF shoots doggos" joke because it besmirches the honor of the ATF, not because of it being an overdone joke. Nobody gives a shit what a tripfag thinks.

>>33553657
Naw the HRT fucked up because my uncle was the one that accelerated the siege timeline to try to end it as quick as possible, against the advice of Bill Clinton who referenced the siege of the CSAL in 1985, which had no deadline and ended without any deaths.

And he wasn't fired, he was discharged and given a pension and all that because he had been a government employee for like 30 years at that point. Most recently he's been making patrols along the AZ border with I think the State Troopers, looking for illegal immigrants and drug corridors. But he's like 71 now so his days of action are just about over.

>>33553797
What exactly was Delta and the SAS doing at Waco?

>>33553774
Oh, forgot all about that.

No idea, we've never really talked much. He's the kind of guy that enjoys real violence, so he's not very conversational; he seemed annoyed and lost for words when my mom made him take me to a barbershop when I was 7.

But I imagine he would have wanted to push aggressive action against them, just like what he did in with Waco/Ruby.

>>33553837
Observing and providing tactical advice, which is just skirting the edge of posse comitatus. I believe the SAS were there to also gather intel on how to conduct an operation like this if it ever happened in Britain, but since Waco was a complete disaster, I think the cooperation ended there.

My uncle has never really mentioned them in passing more than a couple times, so they were really non-actors in the whole thing.

>watching documentary about Ruby Ridge
>they start off by calling Randy a white supremacist
why is this label always slapped on people who end up in standoffs with the feds? I feel like it's just to try and delegitimize any defense of them by calling them a "nazi".

>>33553927
Because it's usually you guys doing wild shit like this.
t. Not a nigger but will get called one anyway

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>>33553971
>you guys
nice implication

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>>33554024
You're right. It's never cousin fucking white dude who do this shit.

>>33553927
Because it instantly dehumanizes and puts the person on their back foot. They now have to defend themselves from bullshit racist accusations.

>>33553518
And maybe letting the snipers take those trophy pics with the davidians burnt corpses didnt help much either....

>>33554257
To the victors goes the spoils or something like that.

>>33553699
>2k17
>believing FBI reports about OIS incidents

Protip, they have a 100% good shoot record despite multiple instances of them shooting unarmed cooperative prisoners in front of other LEOs for a reason. If an FBI agent said it happened then it happened.

>>33553803
hey what the fuck are you pretending to be me wtf kid
kys

>>33552393

She's too old now unless you want to raise a potato

>>33553803
Stop stealing my name

>>33554531
>>33554573
The zeds are multiplying

>>33551949
watched a real interesting documentary on McVeigh recently. It alleges pretty much that he was a CIA agent. I think this is it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgfi1QZILxk

>all the ATF sympathizers in this thread
I remember when you wouldn't hear a single word of support on /k/ for anyone at Ruby ridge who wasn't one of the Weavers.

I want /pol/ to leave.

>>33554747
Yea, yea and the unibomber was created by MKultra tell us something we dont know

>>33554257
what pics? never heard of this.

>>33554814
lots of info on google, the atlantic did a piece on it too

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/06/harvard-and-the-making-of-the-unabomber/378239/

Long story short Kacynski(sp? fucking polacks) showed no signs of mental instability until he was subject to an extremely unethical series of psychological experiments aimed at breaking down peoples personality and belief structures as a form of interrogation. supposedly part of or an offshoot of MKULTRA after his time in the program he had a difficulty adjusting back to normal life and showed the seeds of mental instability that would later lead him to despise authority and industrialization so much he started to kill.

>>33553971
>>33554052
>It's only a right winged white thing!
>implying
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rican_Nationalist_Party_revolts_of_the_1950s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol_shooting_incident_(1954)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Harry_S._Truman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbionese_Liberation_Army

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Liberation_Army

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Revolutionary_Assault_Team

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boricua_Popular_Army

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuerzas_Armadas_de_Liberación_Nacional_Puertorriqueña

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Weather_Collective

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_19th_Communist_Organization

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Jackson_Brigade

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_Anti-Klan_Committee

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Camden_28

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Freedom_Front

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_Brigade_of_Weather_Underground

https://www.trackingterrorism.org/group/armed-revolutionary-independence-movement-mira-united-states

https://www.trackingterrorism.org/group/independent-armed-revolutionary-movement-mira

Oh no! Suddenly I have become retarded and can't think for myself.
Who was in the wrong here?

>>33555185
Well, after ruby ridge, the gubmint lost the resulting criminal and civil suits against weaver.

>>33555254
sorry, lost their criminal suit against weaver and lost the civil suit weaver brought to them.

Waco is sketchier to pin on anyone in a black and white "the court said so" way.

>>33555259
I mean at Waco the Branch Davaidans were 100% criminal scum, but you can't just burn women and children alive and expect no one to be angry about it.

>>33553971

>t. Coon

>>33551911
>be 28
>wife is 33
>we'll be having kids soon
>all these (you)'s
Ya sure know how to get the autists attention.

>>33555513
They're worried about the next generation of their kind threatening their current mantle as lord of the autists

>>33552101
>Timmy McVee saying that he did it all on his own and that people invented conspiracy theories because they couldn't accept the fact that one man could cause so much carnage on his own.
You really have to respect the guy.

>>33555281
The branch dividans started the fire.

>>33555683
Really? I was always under the impression it was government forces. The fuck did they start the fire for?

>>33555699
Because they were a nutty suicidal cult.

TLDR: bunch of fire experts from around the world looked into it, found the fire started in 3 places at the same time, two of which the ATF had no access too.

>>33555718
Ahh good to know. Well I don't hate the ATF or FBI as much then.

>>33555718
Here is source.

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Final_report_to_the_Deputy_Attorney_General_concerning_the_1993_confrontation_at_the_Mt._Carmel_Complex,_Waco_Texas

Danforth report was after OKC bombing because the govt shit itself.

>>33555753
They bungled the initial raid, and we're too heavy handed. They learned from their mistakes though, as the Bundy standoff showed.

>>33555774
I agree they have definitely learned from their mistakes. Their handling of the wildlife refuge takeover was excellent.

>>33551741

>Mfw I was at Ruby Ridge
>Mfw I don't have any faces to describe such an event.

>>33555868
Story? Were you ATF of just a bystander?

>>33552213
>36
>Anon is 30
>"Geriatric"
You know it's against the rules to be on 4chan if you're under 18, right?

>lol they had to delete my posts because they couldnt argue with them
Janitors confirmed for shit
K is confirmed for honeypot

>>33553630
>making illegal firearms
"militia member": hey randy, will you cut down these shotguns for me?
RW:why don't you just do it lazy ass?
MM:my hacksaw broke, and my files dull, and I have a hangnail- hey! ill give you $20!
RW:sure why not.
domestic terrorist

>>33555678
>asshole blew up a daycare
>respect

>>33553630

Have you done ANY research into the issue? He refused to make an illegal firearm until they used his ignorance of the law against him. They tried to get him to chop a shotgun barrel to below 18", which he declined. SO, they had him shop the stock enough to get the gun JUST slightly under the legal overall length requirement for a shotgun. Then they did not send his paperwork (with court date) to the correct address so his lawyer notified them of that and they said they would correct it. Instead, they just brought an army to assault his house. Fuck you boot licking faggots. Are you a LEO?