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Would this be survivable in the field?

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Would this be survivable in the field?
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>>33523060
Maybe, if you get a really good medic to prep you and get sent to a field hospital within the hour

But in the opening minutes of the Normandy Invasion?

No chance in hell
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>>33523060
How much of your intestines are still attached and inside you? If a fair amount is laying on the ground (or simply outside your body) but still attached, just wipe it off and try to realign with this picture in mind. Try avoid crushing anything important.
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>>33523060
>something internal is now external
What do you think OP?
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>>33523140
Here's a cadaver for a more realistic idea of what's inside you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buRfigGne9k

Also pic related, sorta looks like kielbasa.
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>>33523060
You'd be surprised how many disemboweled people survive. Now that's with proper care and quick access to a field hospital. First five minutes of the D-Day invasion? Lol no.
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>>33523060
way to make me feel feels OP
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>>33523060
No way is that treatable on field. You need a team of trama surgeons to patch that fucker up. The best a medic could do is give the guy a fuckload of morphine so he could be transported to a field hospital while stopping as much bleeding as possible on the trip over.
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>>33523060
>guts are shredded
>half of your intestines and what appears to be part of his liver are laying on
>no bandages
>no morphine

He's fucked.
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>>33523294
bullshit. i watched hawkeye pierce do bowel resections every week on m*a*s*h*
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war is hell thread?

war is hell thread
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>>33523060
I had a guy get stabbed in front of my apartment years ago and he looked like that when I open my door to him screaming. I taped him up and took him to the ER, he even demanded a cigarette before he would go inside. Needless to say he lived.
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>take a break from anime
>click this thread

I-I don't want to fight in war, anons. I just want my cute 2D girls with all their intestines safely inside their bodies...
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Are there any accounts of people continuing to fight after being disemboweled?
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>>33523448
I mean, people with varying degrees of a gut shot have continued fighting before shock set in.
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>>33523448
think I read something about vikings doing it while high on mushrooms
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>>33523439
fugg what movie is this
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>>33523490
It's a korean movie called My way
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>>33523478
Is it about Kalkhin Gol? Only battle I can think of between Nips and rooskies with BTs
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>>33523523
It's about a korean guy who ends up getting drafted into 3 different armies and yeah it has Kalkhin Gol battle in it
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>>33523587
Whats the movie called you cock knocker
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>>33523627

Army Dog
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>>33523060
Some guy in SOG, had a similar wound in Laos. He survived.
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>>33523637
Thanks, donut puncher
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>>33523587
Fuck, I remember reading about that dude. Drafted by Japs, captured and pressed into service by russians, then captured and pressed into service by the Germans. One hell of a story.
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>>33523140
>just wipe it off and try to realign with this picture in mind
Aren't they... fragile?
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>>33523404
and that's why the mudslimes are winning.
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>>33523685
Relatively. I mean you may not want to practice your kung fu grip on it or try your hand at knot tying, but for the sake of reinserting them inside someones abdomen it's fine.
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>>33523478

TENNO HEIKA

BANZAAAAAAIIIIIII
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>>33523060
Dunno about his survibability but there are a load of microbes and shit in sand that guys probably got a lot of bacteria in him now
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>>33523448
There was an account of a VC fighter continuing to fight while his guts were being held in by a pot strapped to his stomach. That scene from Apocalypse Now where Kilgore lets the VC drink from his canteen was inspired by it, it actually happened.
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>>33523627

My Whey
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>>33523357
tae guk gi?
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>>33523202
It's truly a marvel that the monster shits I take can find their way through that maze.
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>>33523060
I mean you could survive it but you'd probably shit in a bag the rest of your life
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I remember watching a documentary about bongs in Afghan and this native was shot in the stomach. I remember vividly the small "balloon" of intestine poking out of the wound, flopping about as they moved him.
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>>33523946

anon, you realize shit doesn't travel through the intestines, right?

come on, no one is that stupid.
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>>33523511
what is this from?
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>>33523627
My Way, pretty decent movie actually.
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>>33524019
If shit isn't in intestines then why does my dick get dirty when I fuck your dad up the ass?
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>>33524046

that's a nice story.

too bad it's not true, it's not shit on your dick, that's just your skin color you dumbb niger
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>>33524107
keked hard
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>>33523478
why the fuck would they run up to the tanks?
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>>33524872

>not charging in human waves against tanks

this is why you'll never be grorious japanese
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>>33524872
BECAUSE BANZAI
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>>33524872
Because way more of them would get shot if they walked.
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>>33524872
They ain't as smart as me and you?
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>>33523404
yeah, keep up your escapism you fucking pussy
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>>33523357
Is this the same shitty over the top movie where the guy picks up the torso and hip fires the BAR?
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>>33523386
Nigga you can just drop a bomb on us like that and then GTFO. Get back here and tell us more.
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>>33523511

What a terrible scene.
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>>33523140
Dont listen to this maniac.

>Cradle intestines in lap
>Bring up knees and prop upoer body to alleviate pressure on abdominal region.
>Apply wet bandages loosely around intestines
>Pray to allah for medical help.

Push that shit back inside you and youre gonna find out what blood poisoning and mass infection feels like. Then theres nothing anyone can do for you.

If youre alone and this happens, youre properly fucked.
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>>33524872
Against standing still and getting hit by tanks?
I think rushing them is a good idea.
Not with swords tho.
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>>33525136
Nah, it's a Korean movie about removing commies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqb_DzL8xmw
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>>33523140
>>If a fair amount is laying on the ground (or simply outside your body) but still attached, just wipe it off and try to realign with this picture in mind.
That's about the dumbest piece of medical advice I've ever heard
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>>33523060
>in the field
NO.

If you are hit with shrapnel enough to tear your skin and belly open it it likely that it tore/ruptured other things inside you. They would have needed to immediately treat this person- give fluids, stop bleeding and surgery. Also, the risk of infection is very great.

I am speaking from personal experience, while I did not have a combat injury and an evisceration.I did have severe chest & abdominal injuries from being ejected from a rolling vehicle which included but not limited to a ruptured intestine. I was flown to a level 1 trauma facility and in surgery within 15 minutes.

I had a torn aorta too, but I was told, after I came out of an induced coma 3 months later, that after removing a damaged portion of my intestine and it being reattached, the biggest test was if I can have a bowel movement on my own. My mother tells me it was a big deal for the docs and nurses in the Trauma Care Unit when they reported it.

I had several infections in the abdomen that required a couple more laporotomies (opening the belly) to remove necrotic tissue. Needles to say, when the shit comes out of your intestines into your abdominal cavity, it;s not a good thing.

I survived, an EVERY doctor is impressed by the details.
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>>33523357
This movie made me cry a little at the end.

Tae Guk Gi is GOAT-tier as far as war movies are concerned.
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>>33525790
This
Also, with the wet bandages, make "snoopy ears"
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>>33523559
>>33523533
>>33523511
What movie is this?
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>>33523404
Kill yourself
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>>33526450

What does "Snoopy ears" mean?
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>>33526335
>Tae Guk Gi
Based anon confirmed.
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>>33525136
The fact you can't tell fucking Hacksaw Ridge apart from Tae fucking Guk Gi tells me all I need to know about this board's ability to discuss movies.
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>>33525139
>lives in the fucking hood
Jesus christ I thought this is what every white mother fucker was scared of.
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>>33526662
>>33526662
Nickname for a the method used to treat an open intestinal wound
Basically the bandage is secured without putting pressure on the intestines

>sorry couldn't find a better guide for it

http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/powerpoint/First_Aid_Presentations/apply-a-dressing-to-an-op-4.shtml
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>>33524046
>>33524107
Good dialouge
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>>33526335
Fuck all those critics who reviewed it poorly desu.
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>>33523349
That's cause he's a surgeon in a field hospital and not a combat medic you dolt
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>>33523582

I bet the Russians were like 'WHAT THE FUCK MAN' when the suicide bombing started.

I'd miss the fuck out of the Germans at that point.
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>>33523294
This guy likely won't be getting morphine.
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>>33527375
>I bet the Russians were like 'WHAT THE FUCK MAN' when the suicide bombing started.

not really, they just assumed the japs had to make do with no dogs around
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>>33523582

What makes this suck all the more is you have no options as the tankers. Sure, the infantry charging you are fucked, but so are you.

Stay in your tank, get zerged and some fuck detonate his suicide charge under you, killing you and everyone in the tank.

Get out and get shot or worse, slashed by officer with a sword.

The infantry charging you are on Mr. Bones Wild Ride, but so are you. This is part of the reason why tanks don't want to engage infantry with no infantry support. If the Japanese had portable anti-tank rockets or RRs (or even sticky bombs, AT grenades or satchel charges) this would be a whole lot worse for the tankers.

Also, in the earlier clips, that fucking glorious bastard on the horse. God bless that crazy son of a bitch.
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>>33523637
one hell of strong movie
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>>33527375
>I'd miss the fuck out of the Germans at that point.
It was in 1939: they hadn't fought Germans yet.
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>>33523060
Considering the injuries that led to his intestines being on the ground, I doubt it. Probably got a lot of hot shrapnel/fragmentation up in his guts. Would still call a 9 line, but I really doubt he'd make it.

I had a HS football coach who was a carpenter and he was using a circular saw that he removed the safety guard on. It kicked back and opened his belly up. Dude held his stomach tight and drove like 20 minutes so that a trauma helicopter would pick him up and take him straight to the regional trauma center, rather than the rinky dink hick hospital in our area. He recovered just fine. Tough guy. But he wasn't straight up disemboweled. Just cut open.
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>>33527406
Didnt the dogs run under the russian tanks instead?
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>>33523439
that katana horse rider
japan is so badass
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>>33523582
oh tanks my katana wont help lets take the pistol :-D
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>>33528405
From what I've heard this was an early problem because the initially trained them using soviet tanks.

Could be a myth though.
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It is survivable if you get infested with maggots. Soldiers have survived being blown in half and left in the field for days because they got colonised by maggots and the maggots ate all the dead flesh, thereby preventing infection, necrosis, gangrene, ect. Praise the maggots.
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>>33523439
>>33523490
>>33523520

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Way_(2011_film)

based on

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Kyoungjong
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>>33527507
Put tanks in reverse-you're faster than charging infantry. Kite infantry, whittle them down.
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>>33526318

And that's why it's important to wear your seatbelts kids
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>>33524046
>>33524019

rekt
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>>33523511
Lol, if krauts were that shitty at killing people; they never would of killed over a million ruskies in 2 and a half years
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>>33528549
Noted
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>>33523587
who wins between this guy and Lauri törni
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>>33523386
Ah, you fell for the old "im gunna die, let me hold a cigarette" trick. Guy got you hook, line, and sinker. Bet he had done that a few times before you too.
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>>33528405
Yes, but not because they trained them with Russian tanks, but because they're dogs, they ran under any tank.
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>>33528549
>During World War I, William S. Baer, an orthopedic surgeon, recognized on the battlefield the efficacy of maggot colonization for healing wounds. He observed one soldier left for several days on the battlefield who had sustained compound fractures of the femur and large flesh wounds of the abdomen and scrotum. When the soldier arrived at the hospital, he had no signs of fever despite the serious nature of his injuries and his prolonged exposure to the elements without food or water. When his clothes were removed, it was seen that "thousands and thousands of maggots filled the entire wounded area." To Dr. Baer's surprise, when these maggots were removed "there was practically no bare bone to be seen and the internal structure of the wounded bone as well as the surrounding parts was entirely covered with most beautiful pink tissue that one could imagine."

t. wiki, holy shit the horror of lying in the no man's land a few days with broken legs
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>>33523404
I got bad news for you M8. There have been more 2D girls that have had their intestines ripped out in hentai than soldiers at Omaha beach.
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>>33528478

it's a roadblock. soviet tank obviously can't run over a sword folded in 10 mirrion layers.
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>>33525790
>If youre alone and this happens, youre properly fucked.

He appears to be alone, might as well stuff them back in.
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>>33523140
What you exactly shouldn't do is to push them back in, just place them on top of the abdomen, bandage and seal.
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>>33529422
[source]
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>>33525136
>hacksaw ridge
>shitty

nice meme desu
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>>33523140
Anon, humans aren't orks. They don't live off of memes and make believe.
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>>33529406
>Laying in the filth and mud while maggots eat your dick and just praying for a shell from either side to end it all
Makes ya feel kind of lucky.
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>>33529406

Be honest, if you were in that situation on the battlefield, and woke up after a night or two with the grievous wound you sustained a couple days earlier being infested with maggots, would you resist the urge to freak out and allow the maggots to continue their work?
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>>33529597
I don't think you would be in a such state that you could really react in any way
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>>33526480

Looks stupid enough to be the 2013 russian version of Stalingrad.
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>>33523060
what kind of craaazy injuries could cause your guts to fall out?
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>>33529406
>scrotum
>apparently maggot therapy isn't painful, just rather unsettling to look at and a bit ticklish.

>lying still, too weak to move, hoping that you're not discovered and shot by the Hun, or at least hoping you die from a random shell explosion instead of septic shock
>wounds are infested with maggots, oh god kill me now
>oh wait, hey I guess that isn't that painful
>actually, that feels pretty good....

>that moment when, instead of fighting for God and country, you pop a boner from getting your balls fondled by insect larvae
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>>33529653
>Doctor's notes
>Gunshot wounds
>Mild dehydration, sunburn from exposure
>Entomophiliac
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>>33529406
>lying in the no man's land a few days with broken legs

One of my worst fears honestly, being wounded and abandoned in a hellish, foreign land.
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>>33529653
Would that technically be Pedophilia
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>>33529406
>be WWI soldier
>my gut is killing me, my legs broken, my balls busted
>see light of God
>he tells me it isn't my time now
>he will send one of God's creatures to save my life
>tfw feet still hurt
>oh god it's been so long, where is it
>feel itchy sensation of balls
>go down to scratch
>all these fucking maggots
>God is an asshole
>dazing out as the medics come to get me
>wake up in bed
>Doc says that the maggots saved me
>God is an ok asshole
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>>33523140
>just wipe it off and try to realign with this picture in mind. Try avoid crushing anything important.

The combination of how easy and simple you make handling mangled internal organs sound with how fucking wrong you are in treating the injuries you're talking about is just tiring.
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>>33525790
can't 'push' em back in.
kinda tight in there.
see: hernia
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isnt the better question how the hell did his guts get outside his body
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>>33523559
>>33523533
>>33523511
Someone post the one where they bounce an artillery shell off a tank's turret to hit troops behind a corner
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>>33529406
>>33528549
>>33529653
>>33530528
HAIL GRANDFATHER NURGLE HAIL THE LORD OF DECAY
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>this thread
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>>33524872
Those red fuckers have fought against nazis for years. They have crossed half of Europe to Berlin, literally walking over the corpses of their comrades, all for the Motherland's sake.

Many haven't touch a woman for all this time.
Those who have carved the bloody legacy that is the "Rape of Berlin".

Those poor japs know it's either being mauled to death to russian bullets or being rapped to death by russian dicks.
I can understand why they choose the former over the latter.
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>>33528538
>this was an early problem because the initially trained them using soviet tanks.

That would be hillariously bad when action reports would trickle back to HQ
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>>33529406
I was aware this was a thing; I didn't realize it worked THAT well.

Maggots are fucking based.
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>>33528549
I want to lick the feet in those pics.
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>>33528405
Yes, Russian tanks and German tanks used different fuel and thus had different smells. Dogs got confused.

Typically the dogs would charge a tank, the machine gunner would shoot some bullets at it, dog gets scared and runs back to it's master or hides under a friendly tank and blows them up.

"In the field, the dogs refused to dive under moving tanks. Some persistent dogs ran near the tanks, waiting for them to stop but were shot in the process. Gunfire from the tanks scared away many of the dogs. They would run back to the trenches and often detonated the charge upon jumping in, killing Soviet soldiers. To prevent that, the returning dogs had to be shot, often by their controllers and this made the trainers unwilling to work with new dogs."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-tank_dog

Typical dumb Russian shit. Like three dogs detonated on German tanks out of 40 and they didn't do any notable damage.
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>>33523404
It's up to you to protect them.
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>>33529556
Blood C, Elfen Lied, take your pic senpai
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>>33533086
>To prevent that, the returning dogs had to be shot, often by their controllers and this made the trainers unwilling to work with new dogs.

>scared puppy comes running back to you, loaded up with high explosives
>you either shoot him, the little buddy you've trained with for months, or he blows you all to hell
>aim rifle, but can see how scared he looks, your heart breaks and you drop your rifle
>commissar shoots the dog and you
>dog bomb still close enough to blow everyone to shit anyway
>still end up winning the war
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>>33533140
>Russia beat Germany nobody else did anything
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>>33533086
I have trouble imagining the kind of person who's okay with strapping bombs to a dog but not okay with shooting it.
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>>33533206
I don't like the fact that someone would do that to a dog, an animal that pretty much lives to make you happy. Cats though, they're assholes, fuck them.
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>>33529406
How do you NOT get an infection, or blood poisoning, and die?
Wouldn't maggots make the wound worse because they're eating you and not letting your wounds recover?
Also, in the case that these maggots save your life,do you need a proper timing to get maggots or just lay there and let nature do the rest?

so many questions
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>>33533287
You'd think so, but apparently they only like the taste of diseased flesh.
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>>33533172
And all it cost was the untold suffering of countless millions of humans and animals
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>>33533287
Roughly it works like this. Skin with no blood flow begins to rot, this will spread to healthy flesh or essentially make a cesspool of bacteria in your body. Maggots only eat necrotic/rotting flesh. They essentially prevent the spread of anymore damage by removing rotting flesh. Your body attempts to take care of the rest.
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>>33523404
>Not bearing arms to protect all the worthy girls.

Filth
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>>33523637
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>>33523060
That looks fucking terrible but yeah due to the lack of blood in the picture. I'd expect someone with their guts hanging out to bleed to death. I'd probably want a mercy bullet if I were him.
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>crtl+f
>No intestinal taco

Well I know what board is gonna die if their intestines are separated from their lower abdomen.
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>>33529572
Placebo is one hellmof a drug anon
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>>33533239
>place half full glass of water on tank
>don't even have to train the cat, it will just try to knock it over anyways


Pretty obvious which one of these animals is superior for this kind of operatin'...
Cept maybe dogs can carry more asplosives
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>>33523060
Dan Carlin quotes some British soldier's memoir from WWI where he saw a man get his guts ripped open by some shrapnel and the medics were able to stuff them back into him, bring him back to the field hospital where they were washed and he survived the wound.

It's actually pretty amazing how durable your gut tube is. It's made of pretty strong muscle to squeeze food through you, and although surviving something like that would be a miracle, it's not impossible. The important thing is that you don't nick the abdominal aorta. If that happens, you'll be dead in seconds.
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>>33525136
>hacksaw ridge
>over the top

I see what you did there, anon
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>>33523478
>0:26

That's a fucking awesome camera shot.
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>>33533287
>Wouldn't maggots make the wound worse because they're eating you and not letting your wounds recover?

They're only eating the dead flesh. Also, hopefully I can put this simply while still being accurate but your immune cells that go to wounds to kill bacteria and eat dead tissue actually die there after neutralizing as much of the threat as they can. Now usually, these cells get cleared by other immune cells as immune cells reach the area, do work and die in waves. But if you have massive wounds, depending on how many immune cells you actually have this can be very stressful for them because the cell turnover can't keep up with how much dead tissue they have to eat and remodel. This is why certain wounds can become chronic. Now the maggots will eat the dead and infected tissue, which helps keep your cells from having to do that part of the work which can make wound healing go a lot faster. That's the current hypothesis anyway.

If you've taken a few bio courses and feel up for reading literature, here's a pretty easy to understand article on that stuff.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3976885/
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>>33526318
I vaguely remember you from the story you just told
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someone post the disembowled zebra video.
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>>33523060
He really was feeling heavy with his moms spaghetti.
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>>33523113
Yeah.. no field hospital is going to get that guy up again.
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>>33533400
i remember that thread
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>>33523060
funny thing is sometimes she'd come home early, and I'd pretend to be asleep.
she'd stand in the doorway looking at me, and id just keep my eyes shut. And I knew she just wanted to find out about my day. That she came home early, just to talk to me. I still wouldnt move Id pretend to just be asleep.
I dont know why I did that
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>>33523060
Actually pretty survivable yeah. As long as you get it covered up by a medic, you're not gonna bleed out before you can get to a field hospital.
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>>33528832
You wish, reverse gear in most tanks is shit. They also don't switch gears as quickly or stop as quickly as a car. The whole World of Tanks thing where you can stop on a dime and run tight circles - if it can be done with tanks, it's only on ones with very tight suspensions, usually very expensive, modern MBTs. A T-34 or T-38 or some shit, they're not very fast to start (allegedly 53 and 40 km/h respectively, usually you can't sustain that speed for long), and by the time you shift down and stop and then get into reverse gear, you've lost precious time... Oh, btw, you can't accelerate to top speed in reverse gear, cocksucker.
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>>33536494
What movie was that from? I know I've seen it before I just can't put the title to it.
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>>33529406

It's actually not as disgusting as you imagine. They're kinda cute and tickle and wiggle around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6TC4hkVhM4
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>>33537325
shaving ryans privates
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>>33523140
As retarded as this is, it isn't far from the truth as to what surgeons do in this situation. They literally just wipe it clean and kinda shove it back in there. It's kinda like trying to coil firehose inside a fire station, if you've ever been in the Navy or something and had to do that.
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>>33523685
Not really, but the walls are easy to perforate with sharp pressure. They are fairly resilient and tensile. For major abdominal surgery they tend to pop out and get pulled out anyway and draped over the surgeons' shoulders before being stuffed back inside. This causes "problems" after the fact like IBS but nothing fatal. More infants than you think are born with exposed intestines as well.

A man on River Monsters in some Amazon village got torn into by a crocodile and lost a third of his intestines, his buddy scooped them back inside, boated him to a hospital, and the guy lived. So no, that soldier would have died on account of him being hit with explosives. The intestines exploding out isn't fatal but the thing that did it is.
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>>33523060
Just take a knee and drink some fucking water.
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>>33536494
I remember seeing this in theaters when I was 12 and how deathly quiet the whole theater was for this scene and his death scene
I just wanted t see a badass war movie dammit
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>>33532649

What the hell are you talking about? The Soviet Union and Germany weren't even at war when Kalkhin Gol happened.
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>>33523326
*spleen

Brother wouldn't qualify for opiates, he'd get ketamine
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>>33523140
We're taught to wrap them in clingflim and sit them in their lap
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>>33523386
If you take any first aid classes, they teach you that this is a fairly regular occurence after a puncture of the abdominal wall. Get a clean cotton t shirt, soak it in clean warm water, and place it over the bowels and GENTLY try to get them contained. It's really not that big of a deal if they pop out but nothing is torn or punctured and you don't get a bunch of dirt inside the abdominal cavity.
As for the soldier in OP, he prolly dead.
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>>33523448
Yeah sure m8, back when I was fighting with the rooskies in Afghan, I had my torso severed in two by an RPG, needless to say I carried on fighting and wiped out 20 mujahedeen before stitching myself back together and going for a vodka.
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>>33528454

That's a Russian wielding a saber.
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>>33533400
>my lai mutt

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