/msg/ Military Surplus General: I have to much .30-06 Edition

>>33521193
Im looking at a Springfield M1903 in the early 50000 range, its got an 1919 dated barrel and its got O.G.E.K. stamps on a C-Stock. But it doesnt have a straight down bolt like other low number guns have. It seems like it might have been a WW2 referb since its got a later Remington marked bolt. Should I get?

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I want a decent milsurp bolt action under $400. What would you buy?

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>>33521193
I too Know that feel

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>>33523675

>>33523562
Bought a MAS 36 for 400. It's super neat but ammo is expensive and can be hard to find.
You can get a "jungle carbine" or some shit for about that, but the ammo is again expensive.
You can get a yugo M48 or various other mausers for 250-400. I would buy one of those just because I don't have one. Ammo is still expensive.

>>33523562
What are you hoping to do with it?

>>33523693
>PS Korean
Is that shit really as bad as they say it is? I have around 500 rounds of Korean M2 and its all KA stamp but there was 8 rounds of PS. Dont know what I am gunna do with it

>>33523562
>Turk Mausers
>Yugo Mausers
>Czech Mausers
>Lee Enfields
>post war Mle-36
>Russian Mosins
>American/German Sporters

>>33523706
Have a little neat piece of history that fires somewhat affordable ammo for the range.

the gypsy 8mm is shit right?

its cheap as shit

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>>33523724
It is good ammo, you just have to avoid the know bad lots, there is a list out there of bad lots so it is fairly easy to avoid the bad ones. Those boxes currently hold HXP 65 that I got form the CMP on a 1919 belt. I am slowly shooting up the ball ammo, and holding onto the AP for SHTF contingencies. Also a pic of milsurp collection.

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>>33523790
Ok. I guess my subsequent question would be, what country or rifle appeals to you?

But for a few suggestions...
1891 Argentine Mauser.
M48 Yugo Mauser
M91/30 Mosin Haven't
Vz24 Mauser
Brazilian 1908 Mauser
Mas 36

My personal favorite is the Mas, but I also reload. Reloading will greatly increase your ammo options.

>>33521193
>to
preposition denoting direction or posession
ex: we went to the store. this is the key to that lock

>too
an excessive amount.

>two
a number between one and three

>lose
can't find it

>loose
your mom

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>>33523675
>>33523693
This is my stash, From left to right its Paki on En-Bloc's, KA Korean, USGI mixed
>1/3

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>>33524349
French M2 Ball (Cupro is in the Bando, and copper jacket in the boxes) FN made M2, Austrian OJP, and Danish AMA.
>2/3

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>>33524367
This is all my collectible shit. Not pictured is 48 rounds of AP, 8 rounds of APIT, and 300 rounds of M1906 Ball from 1918. Plus I got a bunch of random Soft point loads kicking around.

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>>33523562
Mauser.

>>33523792
>the gypsy 8mm is shit right?
The surplus stuff is fine (red primer sealant and dates from the 1960s–70s). It's the new stuff that's crap.

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I need to get a life.

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New family photo after nearly 2 years

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>>33527300
Milsurp is love, milsurp is life.

>I'm hopefully getting another Mle1936. This one a post liberation refurbed

>>33527319
Nice Martini.

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>>33527352
There are a couple nice ones on Gunbroker right now. I'm debating between a few things.

>>33527319
>all them stabbies
gibe

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Red pill me on the Yugo SKS and the M1 carbine. Local store has both, but I know barely anything about the m1 and slightly more about the SKS

>>33527421
The Yugos are nice, it's a brand-new SKS for $450 which you're not going to find anywhere else. The grenade launcher is cute.

M1 carbine is a meme gun that shoots a meme cartridge. Very expensive, not very aesthetic, and easily surpassed by a dozen other carbines/cartridges at everything besides being an M1 carbine for >muh history.

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>>33527421
I love my M1 Carbines, handy and real fun to shoot. You might run into issues with ejecting/extraction but should be able to to fix it with some new parts for under $40 like I did. If it's an original USGI Carbine under $800 I'd say go for it. I don't have an SKS yet but that is next on the list. The Yugos seem to be the nicest. What's the store asking for them?

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>>33527795
Wants $799 for the carbine, I forgot the manufacturer but it has a bayonet lug and the bolt handle wiggles a bit but it locks up fine. Wants $500 for the SKS, but SOG has them for $419 so I might just get one shipped in to another FFL that doesn't charge as much for transfers.

Where do I get .303 British guys? Is this Paki Surplus any good?
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/175530/military-surplus-pof-ammunition-303-british-174-grain-full-metal-jacket-berdan-primed-corrosive-loaded-in-ammo-can-of-250-rounds

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>>33527832
The bayonet lug just means it was rearsenaled for the Korean War as most were, the manufacturer makes all the difference in terms of price. The bolt handle wiggle is normal.

Best milsurp rifle for cast bullets?

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>>33527909
Not always. The bayonet lug came from the factory on rifles in very late 1944 or early 1945.

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>>33527909
How hard is ammo to come by compared to 7.62x39. Is it just a range toy or could I feasibly use it for hunting or surplus matches?

>>33523562
Swedish Mauser.

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>>33527646

>le meme gun

>>33528037
You're right. I always though the lugs were only used post-war for some reason.
http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/barrelparts.html
>>33528085
It's usually available near me for 40-50 cents a round. I have heard that they can be used for hunting or home protection and the round is ballistically similar to .357 Magnum.

>>33527835
Paki surplus is no bueno.

For one thing it's cordite, which is bad enough and poor Enfields have been subjected to that shit for too long. Then there's the fact it's all been poorly stored and the ammo has deteriorated, case head separations aren't uncommon and hangfires and duds are a dime a dozen. Put your money into reloading supplies or PPU instead.

>>33528216
I don't care what people say, based PPU is /ourguy/.

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>>33521193
I've bought this crate last month
It is paradoxical but Czechoslovak ammunition is very precious in the Czech Republic (scarce or overpriced)

Damned export companies...

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>Too much 30-06
Never

Especially never too much 30-06 AP

>>33528227
They make life good for milsurp fags, and to tell the truth I've never heard a bad word about any of their ammo until I started going on the internet. Yes, it's not match quality in consistency or components but it's pretty good, and reasonably priced. Also loaded to respectable pressures unlike some other faggot manufacturers, I usually find PPU is about 100fps slower than whatever military load they've roughly based their ammo on (e.g. .303 MkVII or Swedish m/41).

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>>33527646

>owning the gay launcher yugo

>Not owning M59 yugo

>>33521193
You can never have too much 3006.

milsurp market is dead.

>Mosins dried up and $200+

>30-06 ammo dried up, cheapest option 70 cents a round

>8mm surplus dried up, new production Romanian is out of spec and doesn't fit in guns, cheapest option 70 cents a round


really the only thing worth while are the yugo m59/66's. 7.62x39 is down to 20 cents a round shipped.

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>>33528595
the prices went up due to demand, thats the opposite of dead

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>>33521193
My only rifle, a k11 produced in 1916 i picked up a case of gp11 to feed her . Over 100 years old and still shoots great

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>>33527950
Probably the Martini though I'm sure a 1871 Mauser or a Gras wouldn't be far behind.

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>>33528595
A lot of us are collectors who don't quibble about spending another $100 for something we want in the first place.

Saw a 1954 Tula SKS. Stamped matching bolt, receiver, stock, electropencil on gas tube and magazine, stock has refurb mark for $475. Thoughts?

>>33531339
Pretty good price for a Russian these days. If you like SKSs I'd pick it up.

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>>33521193
Is this stuff worth picking up 500 rounds for $100?

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>>33528571
This

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>>33531447
>If you like SKSs I'd pick it up.
That's the thing; I don't have much interest in them. If I the pre-auction e-bid on a Gew.98 I'm wanting wasn't already close to my personal limit I wouldn't even be considering making an offer.

>>33531483
I think for $100 you should be getting at least 1K rounds.

>>33531542
>I don't have much interest in them
Then I'd pass. Why spend the money on something you don't want? Save it for something that is more interesting to you.

who here wants a chauchat:

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/635388103

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>>33531769
Unusable for $2600? No thanks

What's a reasonable price for a K98 Mauser with all the original markings and such?

>>33532214
Between $500 and $3500.

There's a lot that goes into them chief. You're gonna have to be more specific.

>>33529997
Is that yours? Where'd you find it?

>>33528216
>Paki Surplus
Paki .303 is really shit. I dont know why but the Paki .30-06 was fucking great, wish it came in again

>>33532214
Had a friend who paid around 750-800ish for his near perfect condition matching mauser 1.5 years ago

>>33528595
>.30-06 is 70 cents a round
lmao

>>33532632
My last two bulk .303 buys have been an Iraqi bandolier on clips and pof.

Im at the point i feel im better off selling them in a few years as collectable cordite.


Buying milsurp ammo is hard.

>>33532719
>Iraqi .303
Fuck if you were local I would buy a few clips off of you. I collect ammo. Im doubt its any good but have you shot any of it?

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First gun I actually bought for myself.

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>>33532573
Gunbroker. There's one on there now in fact. And another over at Julia.

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>>33532793
I haven't. I've just not had the balls to break up a complete bandolier of the stuff.

>>33533007
Theres two actually. Sriesel magically pulled one from his ass and its at $700 right now.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/635103350

>>33533112
It's been refinished. Would be a great shooter, but knowing him he'll shadow bid it over what it would reasonably go for.

$1200 would be my absolute max on that.

>>33531483
What in the hell kind of .308 round is that?

>inb4 "that's not .308" - i know but fuck you

>>33533164
Looking at this Julia one. I have no idea how to bid. But taxes will be here any minute hnnnnggggg

anyone seen a ljungman for sale anywhere aside gunbroker in the last couple of years?

>>33533447
I can't see anything
my eyes are taped shut
h e l p

Those private collection German K98s got sold in less than 10 minutes today off classic.

They were 1k but still, I wish I didn't hesitate.

>>33533230
It's a plastic training round from Germany, it shoots a super light plastic projectile uber fast. I think they're effective out to like 100-150 meters or so. Neat things for indoor shooting if you have a bolt gun or conversion kit for a G3

>>33524404
aww shit I got 720 rounds of the green primer ones that are 170 grain.

Did I fuck up?

>>33533829
I dont get why they were going for so much 2bh. They were mismatching werent they?

>>33533915
no they were all matching, and beautiful

>>33533934
well then $1000 was a steal but I swore they were mismatching at least some of them. I watched at least some of the video they sent me in a email the other day.

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Found a crate of unicorn ammunition for my M95.

>>33533987
>1k was a steal
fuck me, I knew it!

I know in the video some were missing sight hoods, but I remember him saying everything was matching. Although he didn't take them out of the stock.

>>33534030
The local surplus store has a ton of these and the crate, they want $15 a box but I didn't ask for a price for all of them in the crate.

>>33521498
Yes

>>33534030
nice, I've only got a few.

>>33531812
It's probably just got some dirt in it.

>friend has a few M44's (Romanian, Hungarian) that he wants to get rid of
>wants to sell them for $200 each
>they look mighty fine, good bores, no ugly dents/cracks, nice finish on the wood/bluing
>keep telling myself I already own a Mauser so I don't need a M44
>but they keep looking so fine
>but my wallet will be severely injured if I buy one

Help.

>>33534160
>wallet severely injured over 200$

You may have gotten into the wrong hobby

>>33534160
>severely injured
>$200
I guess.
But desu $200 for an M44 is probably the best deal you'll get right now.

>>33534175
>>33534182

I'm a broke ass bum now due to education debt and having to quit work for a while to be educated. I'll obviously be back to normal given ~6 months, but for now I'm on a tight budget.

>>33534198
take that $200 and put it on jason bay to win the masters. you can thank me afterward

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>>33533842
>Did I fuck up?
Depends on whether you can get it to chamber in your rifle. If you can you didn't fuck up.

>>33533829
>I wish I didn't hesitate.
Be glad you did.
http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?26547-New-Classic-Private-Collection-K98ks
>>33534039
>him saying everything was matching.
Lol

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>>33534160
>>33534182
>friend selling shitty acura for money and guns
>seller knows literally nothing about guns, friend know's some but invites me to price things.
>winchester model 70, mini 14, hey an m44 moisin in really good shape!
>about to tell him it's worth about 200
>friend blurts out "wow that's one of those type 44's that's like 1000 dollars" (he thought it was the same as my type 44 arisaka)
>try to explain to the seller that it's not, it's a m44 moisin
>won't let go of the idea of ti being worth $1000
>friend leaves with model 70, mini 14, and 400 bucks

Not even my money or rifles and I'm still pissed about it.

>>33534359
damn, I have a lot to learn. Good eyes anon.

>>33534359
I didn't even know this forum existed. Does every gun have its own fucking forum?

>>33534359
So many war eagles. Miles and miles of war eagles.

>>33534363
if your friend is that dumb he doesnt deserve an M44

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>classic has k11s
>dont want it but im starting to doubt they get anymore k31's

think I might have to buy one

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Range day best day

>>33534910
they no longer have any good condition ones, just "cracked good". Which means cracked to high hell, since I bought my finn m39 from there and it was the same "cracked good".

>>33534914
gib Mas 36 pls

>>33534936
welp nvm then

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>>33534936
5 years ago I bought a hand-select M24/47 from Classic. I got a rifle with a barrel so crooked the front sight was to the right of the rear sight if you shouldered the rifle. I sent it back and Big Ben personally signed for it, then called me 6 months later to ask me if I still had it.

Never again.

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>>33534914
How'd you like the Mas? Does it love up to the hype?

>>33535088
fuckin christ, I'm done buying from them. The thing is I don't really know of any other websites to buy surplus, and gun broker has people selling for like 4x markup.

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>>33535115
>4x markup
It's not 2005 anymore man. Milsurp isn't for the poor.

>>33535146
I know you're right but my god, it seems like milsurp is at a constant 800+ on gunbroker.

>>33535217
Depends what you're looking for man. Also have to keep your eyes out for improperly labeled auctions. I'm looking real hard at a poorly labeled Lebel chambered Rolling Block.

>>33535253
how do you even find improperly labeled auctions?

you just scroll through pages of c&r stuff?

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>>33535217
Part of it is the results of the election. With no gun control measures in sight for the next 4 years people who were ignoring low-priority gungrabber fodder like milsurp in favor of accumulating black rifles are now back in our market.

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>>33535272
Sometimes. Also very generic search terms and no filters. Mosin, Enfield, Russian, French, Etc.

*scrolls through pages of miscellaneous c&r guns*

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>>33535346
>*scrolls through pages of miscellaneous c&r guns*
AKA "Saturday night'.

>>33535383
AKA "every night"

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>>33535346
>>33535383
I do this pretty much all day. Taking a shit? I'm on Gunbroker. Sitting in the shower? On Gunbroker. Waiting for a train to finish crossing? Gunbroker. At work? Gunbroker. Watching TV? Best believe I'm on Gunbroker.

I like to think it's made me better at my job because I can scroll through thousands of results looking for anything that stick out in a matter of minutes.

Protup: search for "Arisak" on gunbroker

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>>33535451
Or "Ariska".

>>33535095
It's really consistent, but it prints a bit higher than I'd like. Other than that it's franctastic

Fugg c&rsenal is prepping for a trench gun episode. Peices about to get even more outrageous

>Win 97 $700-1200
>M97 $2300+++

>>33534359
first gun in the video
>s/42 with early eagles
>stock has mid war eagles and flat but plate
>NUMBERS MATCHING!

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>>33535531
Trench guns are already pretty high man. I don't think a YouTuber with less than 50k subscribers is gonna shoot prices up.
>>33535507
Excellent, another convertee.

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>>33535456
a e s t h e t i c

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>>33535864
>that first clip of the day

>>33533095
>Complete bandolier
Fuck me where you at senpai Ill give you 30 bucks

>>33535660

Speaking of Trench guns, how good are the reproductions by Norinco? Would I be able to attach a heatshield/bayonet lug to one?

>>33528759

there are no surplus rifles being imported in mass.

all thats left are yugo sks's and mausers.

>>33532714

cheapest 30-06 that isn't steel is 70 cents a round before shipping, so more like 80-85 cents a round actually.

https://gun.deals/category/ammo?caliber=24

>>33537002
Mines pretty great. If you can find one (no longer imported I think) I'd pick it up.

>>33535531
Their gunsmithing videos with Mark are excellent. I wish there were more 'smiths around like him, proper craftsmen.

>>33538329
More bubbas refinishing milsurp eh?

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>>33536812
I'm in ID.

Though $30 isn't very tempting. I can share some if you feel like sending some other cases over.

>>33538553

I have already bubbad my lebel by ripping out the tube mag and using a k98 internal mag

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Just got my 1953 Tula SKS for $480. Lots of effort into getting this rifle. Her name is Olga. Gonna take her out on Friday

>>33538628
>Soviet SKS
>FOR $480?!

What fucking state do you live in man? I can't even find a Norinco one for less than $425 here in Cali.

>>33538708
All matching too. But missing the cleaning rod. I live in CA as well (Orange County) but won it for $480 off GunBroker from a guy in PA. Total cost to get it including shipping, paperwork, CA bullshit, and driving back to CA to get it ran me about $600. I also had to wait about a month to get it because the timing of the auction was weird for me.

Still, $480. Some rust in the neck but I cleaned most of it off. Just some dark spots now. Hopefully shooting will loosen anything I missed.

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Leather sling from Ukraine finally showed up, love how it looks.

>>33531483
if you want to spend time scrubbing melted plastic out your bore, sure

>>33537002
>>33537465

my buddy has one. they are pretty nice until around 1,000 rounds or so when parts snap and it becomes a paperweight.

also they glue the retaining screw in place so you need a torch to fully disassemble the gun.

>>33538594
>Idaho
Huh, fuck you arent TOO far. You planing on going to the Arkadia meet in July?

>>33523562
Mauser.

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>>33538708

>Cali

Shit son, they charge that much for a Norinco there? I got pic related a few weeks ago for $300. It's in absolutely mint condition with not a single dent or bump in the wood, and it fires great. Heck, I could have gotten it for less, but I didn't feel like being a douche to the seller.

>>33540702
>Arkadia
I never heard of this. But i don't generally look into the meetups

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>>33523562
Under 400 burgerbucks? Mauser, most likely. Mosins are also about 200 a pop but do your checks for quality.

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>>33538628
>>33538708
>>33538776
Geez, I wonder what my '54 Izhevsk is worth.

>>33541794
In il you could probably easily sell it for 600 on armslist in a few days

Are all argentinian FN 49s on the market .308?

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>still haven't sold it
>or the m44
Maybe I should just break down and use gunbroker.

>>33538783
Oh god what happened to that stock? I hope that's just the lighting.

>>33536648
That range looks familiar

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How is this op ;]

>>33541908
95% probably are.

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>>33541958
Driftless represent.

>>33542015
Went to UW Platteville. Nice place with fuckall to do. And I didn't have any guns because I was in the dorms.

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My great uncle's from ww2

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Now what's this that arrived in the mail. Damn cat, it's addressed to me!

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>>33542144
Interesting smell.

>>33542156
Milsurp dildo

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>>33542156
Sweet. A French sling, manual for a Mle 49, cleaning kit pouch, oil bottle and spare part's pouch. And a nugget revolver holster and lanyard.

I have a conundrum. I feel compelled to buy something, but have several options I'm struggling with. SKS, hand nugget, or Uberti Colt repro. Which should I pick?

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>>33542178
I was surprised by the lack of dragon dildos.

>>33542198
Nagant is probably the hardest to get right now. They seem to have disappeared.

>>33542240
What's the going rate for them?

>>33542274
There are a few on GB for about $300. Expect to pay more at an LGS that knows what they are worth.

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>>33542215
I'm not gonna spend that kind of money on a online joke. Dragon dildos are expensive as fuck.

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>>33542485
>Not buying the hetero version

Don't let the fags win anons.

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>>33542542
Na, I'm good.

>>33542485
Kek.
>hence why I didn't have one to shove in the package to troll with

>>33542307
Any specific years or markings to look for

>>33539203
Just scrub it with bullets

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>>33542542
>hetero
No thanks.

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http://www.gunbroker. com/item/634125458

Looking at getting this. I don't know too much about Yugo Mausers, and I have no experience buying Milsurps. But i'm interested in a yugo mauser specifically. Is this a good deal? does the rifle look okay? is gunbroker safe to use for a noob?

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>>33543471
>Is this a good deal?
Right now it is; we'll see what it costs when the gavel falls.
>does the rifle look okay?
Yes.
>is gunbroker safe to use for a noob?
Yes. FFLs like these guys can be looked up online to ensure they're legit.

>>33543559
I'm an utter noob to gunbroker and buying firearms in general. New shooter.

So I basically have to get the seller to send the gun to a store near me to pick it up? and i need to go to them first to see if the seller is legit?

>>33543654
After/if you win you'll get an email from the seller. Then you go to whomever you want to do the transfer and have them fax/email a copy of their FFL to the seller. You then pay the seller. Then the seller sends the item (and usually a tracking number) to your dealer. When it get there the dealer will call you and you go pick it up. Make sure you have a dealer who is willing to do the transfer first though. Gunbroker has a function that will find FFLs in your area to help.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/632967619

not buying it, but i'm curious - is this a good price?

>>33543859
It's fair, that's about the going rate these days.

>>33523562
Depends, what country you in?
>burgerland
Cheap Yugo Mauser abound, and with nuggets getting more and more expensive, Mauser is proudly your best bet
>leafland
Mausers are still over 500 maplepesos (German Mauser k98s are 7-800), nuggets can still be had for less than 200.

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>tfw you live in California and there are no pretty French rifles anywhere
>only readily available surplus in my part of the state are a couple well-worn Garand
I just want a MAS...

Alright ladies and faggots, I just hit on the lottery. Nothing huge like a million bucks though, just $10,000. What do I blow my money on milsurp wise?

And before the professional financiers answer, I'm perfectly fine otherwise. Only debt I have is my house, and I'm not rushing to pay that off because it's a tax deduction.

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>>33544482
>What do I blow my money on milsurp wise?
What do you have already? Do you want to start up a collection with a bunch of cheaper pieces (~20 <$500 guns), a handful of expensive desirable stuff (8-10 ~$1000 guns), or just blow it on one-or-two rare and cool pieces?

Personally, I'd go with option two and get myself some nice matching examples of WW1 service rifles to complement those I already have.

>>33528151
>Swedish Mauser

Those go for like $600 anon

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>>33544589
>Those go for like $600 anon
I got mine for $300 a few weeks ago, and Anon immediately blew me the fuck out with his own $200 grab. If you check Gunborker they're usually between $300-500 for common m/96 rifles.

>>33524404
Nah, the Romanian surplus 7.92 is shit too. They didn't size the cases right, and they fail to extract a lot and produce a lot of fliers

>>33544862
You're confusing Romanian surplus with the new commercial 7.92 Made in Romania. The latter is the crap that is out of spec.

>>33545117
No, I'm not.I'm talking about the ammo that comes in the crates with '7.92 LPS GS' stamped on it, because that's what's right next to me. Made in 1971 and loaded onto 2 piece mauser clips.

>>33544620
Swedes are weird.

I paid 300 for my long rifle and 500 for my short rifle with "navy" rear sight.

I think they're one of those underappreciated milsurps that normies won't pay much for, but if you know your mausers you're just thankful they're not the 1200+ they should be.


>Tfw can't find swede pictures

>>33544482
If ~i~ had 10k to guilt free buy i would (in this order)

Ww1 era Luger
C96 with stock
Levernugget
Webley in .455
Lahti anti tank raifu

>>33542198
Fugg it I ordered the hand nugget. It'll be here Saturday

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So I was looking at getting a Lee Enfield potentially and I've seen people say you can get one for under 400 but I've seen prices closer to 500 on average, up to 700 or 800 if it's in really good condition. Anyone have suggestions on where to look?

>>33545768
im in the same boat 2bh. If you see a nice one for $400 buy it. Everything just gets more expensive. Just keeping looking at armslist, gunshows, gunbroker, lgs etc.

>>33545768
Pawn shops.
Got mine for under $200 because they didn't know what caliber it was in

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I dunno why I bought this desu

>>33545939
t. 51 yrs old

>>33546005
Did you get that off Gunbroker?

>>33544044
>tfw live in california and no french rifle or french gf

>>33546538
Yeah, I need to learn to not buy it now when I'm feeling animated. At least it's got the rod and perhaps original sling

One LGS has a Russian SKS for $300, but no bayonet.

Another has a Yugo for $475.

Which country made the best SKS?

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>>33546942
Was that the one for $700 or something? I was heavily considering that myself. I am jelly as fuck.

>>33542839
Not really, if you want just something to shoot. Most people who are selling them these days know what they have. Earlier years will go for more.

>>33546981
Six fiddy had been watching it for several weeks at least. Bolt is mismatched but from what I gather that's fairly common

>>33546966
Russia is the general consensus. Yugos aren't bad, but I'd get the Russian one.

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>>33547001
Yeah it was awfully tempting but.... I want too many things at once. Good on you for buying it.

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>>33546991
I ordered a 1912 in very good+. Here's hoping it worth it.

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>>33546005
Nice.

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>>33547459
Tbh a non refurb, non import mark just walked into my lgs and I am very tempted to buy it. Even though I already have a nagant.

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>>33546571
>>33544044
49/56s and the 49s that retain their grenade launcher are both banned in Commiefornia.

>>33547865
same with some of the Yugo SKSs unfortunately

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>>33548155
I was really hoping that it wouldn't go that high. 10k I can float by my wife but 20k? That's not going to happen.

>>33548155
Is that a VHS?

>>33548275
man, I couldn't even suggest a number like that to my wife, you're a lucky man.

>>33523700
i haven't got ammo for mine yet but, i just like the feel of that rifle.

>>33542188
that from liberty tree?

anyone else just put low bids on Rock island and hope for the best?

>>33548496
I like how small and light and simple it is compared to its peers, while it still shoots a comparable cartridge.

>>33548553
I don't do that, but god damn do I wish I had the money to go crazy with auctions

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/70/2508

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>>33548431
It helps that my wife loves bullpups.

>>33548669
>https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/70/2508
i have alot saved up want to get a house in a year or 2 but i get tempted sometimes so i usually bid low range on stuff and hope i dont win them all by some miracle. i was looking at one of the class 3 FALs and i bid on a valmet

>>33548619
i need to scrounge some ammo, i dont shoot very much im more of just a hobby collector but i try and find cool stuff like this i kinda really want that
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/70/3490#detail

>>33548951
There are 6 or so of those on Gunbroker right now.

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>>33548669
Too much want.
>>33548951
Interesting. That one has French proof marks.

>>33534160
>Hungarian and Romanian Mosins
>$200
buy right now

>>33538553
not even close

>>33523724
Also, some Steryr M.95 and Ross Rifles (.303) can be had for under 300

>>33549143
>Ross Rifle
>Under $300
Fucking where?

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>>33549332
Shop downtown has a Ross sporter for about that price

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What's a good price for a Hakim? Are Hakims even decent rifles?

>>33549646
I regret not picking one up for 400 bucks when I had the chance.

The muzzle break on the thing is hilarious.

>>33549631
>sporter
Get that shit outta here

Anyone know how I can tighten the side ways wobble on my rear sights on my Enfield? No 1 mk 3 and the shit's fucked, no way it's accurate past my muzzle with the amount it moves

>>33549646
yes. they are sweet. but the AG42 is sweeter

>>33521193
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ADtatnAW2Y

>>33551523
Wts Tula 1952 SKS

>>33549631
Honestly i would grab it. They're not too common. Parts would be a treasure hunt, but if its matching and not bubbad with holes or tactical it might be worth it

>>33521193
GRAB AR-15, GO INNAWOODS

>>33551577
It's been drilled and tapped for a scope, just like both of the Enfields and even the Carcano he has in the store. It's a mostly surplus store, unfortunately most of the guns are in "fair" to "good" shape and way too expensive

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Picked up a 1903 yesterday. I'm going to take it apart today, and clean out the cosmoline.

>>33551658
Just FYI I'd replace that foam in your case ASAP. That open cell foam is garbage, retains moisture. If you're going to use cases get some high density and/or rubber foam

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>>33553873
Gotta say, much as I love to shit in Mausers, I do love my Kar98.

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>>33553939
I would take a Kar.98a over a Kar.98k; I find it much more attractive.

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>>33554008
As do I, that's what made it so high on my list. One day I'm gonna fabricate a stacking hook for it, just need the time.

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>>33554008
>post Argie carbine
>immediately get e-mail from J&G about Argie 1909 long rifles and 7.65x54 ammo

>>33554048
Jews did that

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>>33554103
Jews did, in fact, do these.

Stopped into a second hand store on the way to work today, they have a "FN (French National) 8MM" [yes, exactly like that] for $699 right now. When i asked to see it, get a pic of the tag, or see how the action locks up (it was open on the wall) the owner sniffed and said "depends, gonna buy it?" So, i couldn't accuratwly identify it, but I think it's a MAS. Sorry, know very little about them.

> Should I try to get him down to $600 tomorrow and buy it ?

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>>33554309
Unless it's a Pre-armistice Mas 36, no. They're 500 max. There are a few on Gunbroker for significantly less right now.

There are FN Mausers that are 8mm though.

>>33521193
This is camo thread rite

>>33554309
I'd say fuck that guy.

Go ask again and start raging about the condition and bore.

Lowball to insult

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>>33554309
MAS also made Lebel and Berthier rifles in 8x50mmR Lebel.

If it says "Fabrique National de Armes de Guerre" on it though it's Belgian, and probably a Mauser rifle. Do you remember where the rear sight was? Was it on the back of the receiver or on the barrel?

>"depends, gonna buy it?"
I hate fags like that. You're selling a used gun for not even $1K; it's fucking peanuts in the gun world.

Is this good? Not that I plan on buying it, but one of you might be interested. At a local pawnshop
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/628717834

>>33554542
Back of the reciever

>>33554577
Probably a MAS Mle.36 then. Odds are they're just guessing at the manufacturer and caliber because dumb fudds.

>>33554595
I'll go back tomorrow. Tell him I'm interested but only if I can check it out. I'll try to grab some pics and put them in the thread.

>>33554550
>good
Can you be more vague please


Good condition? Good price? Good rifle? Good boy?

800 is slighly above average. Stock looks slightly refinished.
No bore picture so i would assume its a sewer pipe

>Wolf out of an M1
Yay or Nay? I already have a new gas plug and I dont reload. Is wolf okay to run in an M1?

>>33554961
Wolf Gold or regular steel-case? Wolf Gold is just re-packaged Prvi Partizan; I trust their quality control more than I do Tula.

>>33555013
Wolf Gold doesnt make .30-06, im talking about Steel case

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>>33534030
I'd take a few off your hands, just found 42 rounds for $50 with clips, how'd I do?

>>33554602
From a quick search, the closest i can find is a MAS 49. So, is a MAS 49 worth $699 (not going to pay that much) right now, and will feeding it bankrupt me ?

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>>33555675
Ok man, this >>33527421 is a Mas 36. It's a bolt action rifle. This >>33542215 is a Mas 49/56 rifle (the one up top, the bottom is a 36) it's a semi auto rifle.
Pic related is a Mas 49 rifle, also semi auto. The 36 is not worth 700. The 49/56 is but you can occasionally find them a bit cheaper. The 49 is a steal at 700.

All are (or should be) chambered in 7.5 French, which isn't the easiest to find and is comparable to other milsurp rounds ($0.75/rnd usually)

>>33535660

Depends on the model and availability. If a gun turns up 1 or 2 times a year max and you go from 1 person actively seeking it to 5 it can really change auction prices.

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My "new" Krag. Sadly it's mutilated, but I love it anyway.

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>Tfw mail from Apex to finish that rifle

>>33556172
It's either the one you posted or the second one you linked (sorry, mobile posting at work). Like I said, not real familiar with the French milsurp, and only saw it for about 2 mins before the shitty conversation with that shitty store owner.

> Sign above the pistols that read "do not disassemble until after purchace."
No, that's really how he spelled "purchase".

Is there any retail milsurp anymore? Fuck I wish I'd started buying this stuff back when I first got an interest 10 years ago. The only thing that I can see is M39s from Classic.

>>33556546
for the most part no. Those m39's even with splinters for stocks are a bargain or will be in a few years anyway also

>>33521193


what are some good producers of m14's?

im a leaf looking to buy but i keep getting norinco shoved in my face,are they okay? what about springfield armory?

>>33556461
how much?

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I recently got my first gun, a Yugo SKS made in the early 80's based on the serial number.

It's in decent shape, but the bolt carrier has some discoloration on its left side (see pic related). Applying some mineral spirits hasn't seemed to have helped, nor has taking some 0000 steel wool to it while it was dry.

Does anyone know what is causing the discoloration and, if possible, how to remove it without damaging the part?

>>33556586
Just buy a Ruger Mini-14. There's many parts available and you can choose whether it's .223 or .308

>>33556583

I'm actually seriously considering getting a second one, just because of the reasonable price and the decent chance that it'll go up in the next few years.

On the other hand I'm part-time work/full-time college ATM so I kinda want to keep my cash for if something else interesting comes down the pike.

>>33556606

oh wicked i didnt know they came in 308.

is it worth getting a synthetic body with the gun? (extra 350 at my local place) or is wood fine?

>>33556488
Yeah pure 49s are rare, but figured I'd mention them just in case. Go back and look, but if he wants to be a fuck face you can find them easily on Gunbroker.

>>33534160

I don't suppose you can hook me up with your friend's contact info?

>>33545794

Local shop has (had?) one for $400...

Not sure what shape it's in though, I didn't get a close look.

>>33556546
Rguns has m48s and 1895 nagants for sale

>>33556172
>The 49/56 is [worth $700] but you can occasionally find them a bit cheaper.
fucking where?
everything i'm seeing on GB starts over 1k and there literally aren't any on armslist.

Local shop has a fuckton of surplus, the reason they still have it? It's all top-dollar. $2500 for a Garand type of stuff.

>>33542198
>>33542240
>>33542274
>>33542307

Check out >>33556975 if you're still looking for hand nuggets.

>>33556975
I'm sorely tempted to get the Yugo Mauser. Thanks for the heads up.

>>33556904
must have meant the .308 mods

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I still have a Swedish Mauser bayonet and Swiss K31 sling for sale if anyone wants to buy them.

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>>33556546
Allan Schisel:
http://www.allans-armory.com/aa.php

>>33557038
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/635258959

>>33556586
I'd say Springfield Armory is the standard - good place to start

>>33558305
>Springfield Armory is the standard
Sub-standard.

Milspec is standard

Arguably Fulton is above standard.


(not)Springfield's M1a is a commercialized bastard child. Few parts will outright break from poor QC like the front sight and trigger housing. Sometimes they shit out a really good one though.

for 1500-1700 they shouldn't be that bad. they're closer to a 1200 rifle.

>>33558305
>>33558423

original anon here

i looked at fulton and its around a 3-4k rifle? is that normal?

.t new

>>33551496
>>33550885
I found two for around 660 each. Maybe I'll pick them up if they go a little cheaper and are in good condition. It'll be a few month until I could afford two throw money on one though.

>>33559027
I assume you went to their main site. In which case yes. Thats MSRP. You can expect a dealer to give you a better price roughly 30% lower.

Yes they're spendy, but they currently make the best M14 clone next to Smith Enterprise and Crane naval base. (They're the ones up keeping the M14 EBR rifles)


Another option is to track down an M14 parts kit and assemble it on a new receiver. Sarco sells Fulton receivers for 550-660

For a leaf you may just have to settle for a Springfield. They're not /terrible/ you just might have to shell out for additional tune ups before its up to standard.

>>33555331

>ausfag here

I paid $370 for 270 rounds all in the original packaging. Ranging from 1937 to 1939 production. So I have ammunition with a mix of Waffen stamps after the Germans took over and Austrian eagles. Cool stuff.

>>33558172
What did you search for to get that one? I can't seem to find it, even searching for generic stuff like "french mas" and wading through the pages of returns.

You're truly the king of gunbroker.

>>33560026
Just search MAS.

The wider net you cast, the more likely you are to catch something you want.

>>33560168
I figured it out, I hadn't included description in search. There must be something fucky with GB searcher because even searches that I designed specifically to find that rifle failed until I turned on "include description".

>>33556605
Brass wool and oil, then leave it. It's what's left of a little bit of rust and you won't do anything about it without removing metal. And besides that it looks fine.