Warsaw Pact thread

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>>33515378

>>33515395
did they give the little guy the LMG as a sick joke?

>>33515378
Were the Czechs /ourguys/?

>>33515378
>all those AK pattern rifles
>one vz58
neat

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>>33515514
probably

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>TFW you will never oper8 in Strichtarn against France

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Guess I'll give this a passing bump before bed.

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>>33515378
NVA knew how to war with style

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>>33515378

>>33517213
I like how the holster looks to be the size of a damn map pouch

>>33515378

Were the RDA helmets actually efective?

Because they look kinda odd...

>>33517264
>You can't post WP aesthetic without it being political

I wish it was 2013-2014 again

>>33515378
7 WP flags, 6 soldiers
Romanian soldier missing

>>33517463

That basically describes the WP in practice.

USSR and it's border minions actually trying and Romania sitting in the middle doing bugger all.

These threads are always incredibly depressing. Seeing all these men and all this gear, knowing absolutely nothing came of it in the end. Sad.

>>33517463
He is too busy being used as slave by Ceausescu.

>>33517472
Actually not the reason; Romania went kind of rogue after the '68 WP intervention against the Czechs. Ceaucescu said fuck you USSR for meddling in other sovereign countries internal affairs via a huge speech that was televised, so basically Romania was the black sheep of the WP. Word has it that the soviets contemplated the thought of invading them too and replacing Ceaucescu, but China and Romania had a very good relationship and the Chinese told the soviets to stop fucking about

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>>33517213

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>>33517787

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>>33517795

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>>33517801

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Bulgarfag reporting in. It's a shame we basically have no standing army to speak of these days. There is a lot of potential in young men here, but it's being wasted on degenerate culture.
If NATO disintegrates or we get kicked out we're basically up for grabs by Turkey or Russia. Not to mention we're not even spending the required amount of money on defense to qualify for NATO membership, but most of those funds are being drained and stolen by corrupt politicians and bureaucrats. Dire fucking shit, boys.

We just had a referendum to kick out the standing government that has basically been in power the last 10 years in one shape or another and they just got elected again due to mass illiteracy and/or voter fraud. The proud Balkan lion weeps...

>>33517935
>How to make yogurt
>Half life 2 design
Please explain

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>>33517264
To be honest anyone from an ex Soviet country like myself knows the trash that commies are.
Still, some of the aesthetic is cool.

>>33517941
The best yeast to make yogurt is found in Bulgaria and is named Lactobacilicum Bulgaricum and it's one of the most prideful things for Bulgarians because our country is literally garbage and has contributed very little significant things to the world.

City 17 in HL2 is largely designed after the Bulgarian capital Sofia.

>>33517935
Well if it makes you feel better Bulgarian parts kits are used to make the best quality AKs on the US market and your Makarovs are pretty good. Closest thing we can readily get to the Soviet standard. I bought one recently and it's really fun.

>>33518021
Arsenal make nice gear, but financially they're struggling as well. Hopefully they will last.

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>>33515378

Anyone defending Warsaw pact should be set on fire and burned alive.
Did you know?
Up until late 90's we had to use gear webbing system that was from WW1.

Why didn't the rest of the warsaw pact countrys adopt the vz 58?

>>33517264
kys shitposter
https://desuarchive.org/k/search/image/R-omhZMO7aDQFdOniBPyQQ/

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>>33515378
>>33517463
It keep happening.

>>33518870

What's up with Eastern bloc countries and poplar trees? Those fuckers are seen on literally every picture taken on the squares of Eastern Europe.

>>33517978
Bulgarians make the best AKs. Be proud of that.

>>33518958
Quickly growing lumber, reduces dust, it is a windbreaker. Why wouldn't they grow it?

>>33515378
>I didn't even wanted to be here
>my legs hurts
>I should be bitching about the 1968 on Radio Free Europe right now

>>33519017

I'm Eastern European myself, just never really understood the obsession with this type. It is literally everywhere.

>>33517935
Hey Bulgaria, thanks for the Makarovs.

>>33517264
Fuck right off to r/the_Donald

Warsaw Pact threads have been a thing for years

>>33517978
Hate to break it to you, but it was Odessa. Sorry F A M

>>33519140
What's on the hat?

>>33515378
So like, what was the point of view of the Russians if WWIII ever broke out? Surely they must not have been naive enough to think that the entire East German, Polish, and Czech armies would stay totally loyal to the Pact? Amongst others no less, but those three having some of the larger armies would surely be a threat.

Did they just role with their plans expecting a bunch of their buffer states to defect?

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>>33515378
NVA soldiers with m56 helmets :^)

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>>33519234
Wait a minute...

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>>33519234
That body armor looks awfully like the russian one but at the same time improved.

>>33515395
It's interesting that the rifles are in 5.45x39 but the RPK's are still in 7.62x39.

>>33519140
>*cracks your lense*

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>>33519177
Eagle of Polish people's army

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>>33519234
>>33519274
https://trungthanhphoto.wordpress.com/2010/09/20/m%E1%BB%99t-s%E1%BB%91-hinh-%E1%BA%A3nh-trung-doan-o-to-v%E1%BA%ADn-t%E1%BA%A3i-13-anh-hung-b%E1%BB%99-d%E1%BB%99i-tr%C6%B0%E1%BB%9Dng-s%C6%A1n-d%C6%B0%E1%BB%9Dng-h%E1%BB%93-chi-minh-c%E1%BB%A7a/

Holy shit this is from 1971.

Soviet 6B2 body armor vest was developed and deployed in 1979.

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>SKOT>All other APCs

>>33519316
Vietnamese can time travel

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>>33519333
Makes me wonder if the Soviets used Vietnam as testing ground for protective equipment. These vietnamese soldiers were not frontline soldiers but rear line logistical truck drivers etc judgining by the images and information that is translated with google.

Makes sense to test them and not soldiers with rifles in their hand since the risk that your body armor get captured by americans is incredibly low and you will have alot of chances to see how the body armor works in the field since american planes are in the sky 24/7.

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>>33517935
What if you appointed Based Matchka as Minister of Defense? Things might shape up.

>>33518055
Compared to the modern Bundeswehr, the NVA was an army.

So enough defending of warschau pa(c)kt

>>33519322
mortarinvestments is selling some of these.

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Romanians

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>>33517787
>tfw your country makes a gun and names it "cancer"

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>>33520520
Well anon to be correct if we had to translate,it would be called astacidae or crayfish

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>>33520520

>tfw your country makes a cancer and calls it a gun

>>33519234
>NVA
I see what you did there

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>>33519234
I see what you did there.

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Everyone knows the Warsaw Pact "allies" like Hungary and Czechoslovakia were hardly reliable to do anything, and would most likely rebel in time of war.

Pic related was the only force that matters, the Red Army.

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Guess I get to pick up some of the slack.
Romanian militia.

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More Romanians.

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Hungarians.

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Hungarian AT team.

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Hungarian Honor Guard.

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Bulgarians.

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Some Czech stuff.

>>33515378
It bothers me more than it should that they're out of order.

>>33517978
Ah Bulgaria, i'd like to thank your for the effort you put into protecting the borders. You are picking up where our politicians neglect their duties. Also thanks for producing shit for us.
t. Dutchman who is going to visit you next vacation.

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Last of the Czech stuff.

>>33523078
what unit is this? sick gear tbqh

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Some Polish stuff.

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>>33523181
No idea. Might be Vysadkari (Paras) but I know very little about cold war Czech camo other than the strichtarn variant their regular army used.
>>33523184

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Also is there a particular reason that during the Cold War the Poles seemed to favor the T-55 over the T-72?

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>>33517935
Hey Bulgaria
Thanks for the goat cheese

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>>33517264
holy fuck, piss off.

>>33517488
we should count ourselves lucky that nothing came of it in the end.

>>33518055
>Up until late 90's we had to use gear webbing system that was from WW1.
that's not WARPAC's fault, whenever you Poles try to innovate you end up making everything worse. Just look at the leopard rucksacks, they have the same capacity as a Soviet veshmeshok and yet somehow manage to be twice as uncomfortable.

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Last of my Polish stuff.

>>33523750
but what is the camo?

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>>33523686

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Lastly, my GDR/DDR stuff.

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Lurking and have posted a few things. Appreciate the images and info!

Here's the link to a Tumblr blog with a lot of images regarding the Warsaw Pact.
https://partisan1943.tumblr.com/

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>>33523686
HOT

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>>33515395
>>33519937
Love these two, here's a similar one.

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>>33524172
Did the Ossis ever have T-72s beyond the baseline models?

>>33515378
>kraut and hungarian dwarf those slav manlets
Kek

>>33524233
>Kraut and Hungarian
>Hungarian
The Hungarian is one of the shortest ones. The tallest ones are the Kraut and the Pole.

>>33524216
Yes they had T-72M1's.

>>33524276
How many? Also are they the ones in this pic?
>>33524172
I can't differentiate between different T-72 variants.

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>>33524216
They had the T-72M export version with slightly less armor. Made in the USSR, Poland, and Czechoslovakia.
Only NVA modifications I know of were that they added more smoke launchers on the turret and opted for the rubber sideskirts. Any baseline T-72s they had were eventually brought up to the same standard as their T-72M.

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>>33515378

ossies are still fresh even after WW2

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>>33524276
Did they actually get T-72M1s, or did they do their own upgrades that ended up equating to it?
I've seen some claim the NVA has T-72M1 and other saying they did not.
Even though the differences between the two seem to be very negligible overall.

>>33524289
It can be difficult. The differences are usually minor or unseen from the outside (Stuff like internal systems or armor composition).
Wikipedia tries to give a guide buy as always, take anything from that site with a grain of salt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-72_operators_and_variants

Another great site: http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/USSR/soviet_T-72.php

>>33524289
Not sure how many. I can't tell the difference except sometimes the armor cheeks are more "full."

>>33524433
http://www.primeportal.net/tanks/jim_caddo/t-72m1_walk_1.htm

All I know is that they had them.

>Even though the differences between the two seem to be very negligible overall.
It brought their tanks to the T-72A protection level. The T-72M1 was frontally immune in a 60 degree arc to 105mm guns past 500m. It certainly was a big deal.

>>33518958
>>33519017
And its said that if you want to kill a vampire, the stake should be poplar wood

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>>33523078
>>33523181
>>33523198
Czechoslovakian paras wearing Vz.60 Mlok "Salamander" or "Clown" camouflage, issued only to the 22nd Airborne Brigade.

>>33523909
Wz. 89 Zaba or "Frog". Short lived pattern between their old Wz.68 Moro patterns and current "Pantera"

>>33522656
Well, I have a new wallpaper

>>33524844
thanks for the info, friendo

>>33518055
>>Up until late 90's we had to use gear webbing system that was from WW1.
Did it work?

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>>33523686
>Yfw you'll never have steaming hot sex with her in the womens restroom while being on duty.

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>>33524333
nice digits

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Anyone have any Albanian pics?
I only have like 3.

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>>33525375

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>>33523909

Wz. 89 Puma.

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>>33525394

>>33517264
Let me guess, you post those "hey guys I don't leike the Nazi's but you gotta admit they had cool uniforms!" threads

>>33524844

Those aren't paras. Just regular mech infantry.

>>33519316
Could've been reverse engineered from captured US flak jackets.

That being said, those shoulderpads look sikk as fukk

>>33525488
is there any reason the Parkas are so cheap and widespread but you can't find the trousers anywhere?

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>>33524963
She's cute.

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>>33524963
She's a real qt.

>>33525394
>>33525539
Is there a reason I'm picking up a slight chicom vibe here?

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>>33525587
My mistake, thank you
Have some Romanian Revolution pics

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>>33525587
Different guy, but just to clarify you're saying
>>33523078
are regular mech infantry?
>>33526635

There's something aesthetically pleasing about the grain and texture of these old photos

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>>33526624
They received a lot of military assistance from China, their uniforms, helmets, and weapons were all heavily based off both Russian and Chinese design.
Pic related, Albanian AKMs with spike bayonets.

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>>33526767
Ah yes, I seem to recall Albania siding with China during the Sino-Soviet split. Would make some sense considering Hoxha was a bit fucky in the head.
>>33526734

>>33526794
Didn't they end up having more artillery pieces than soldiers?

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>>33526809
I believe that was bunkers.
>>33526794

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>>33527027
Haven't seen that one before, that's cool.

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>>33527093
Which army are you posting there?
>>33527027
DDR Grenzers, border guard. Get a very negative rep because more often than not if you were trying to escape from the DDR these guys would shoot you.

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>>33527121
Czechoslovakia, note the Mlok camo.

Fun fact: after Mlok was replaced the remaining stocks that weren't given to other countries like Palestine, Yemen, and several African communist movements were given to prison inmates as work uniforms, much like inmates at Alcatraz were given old Navy peacoats.

>>33515378
from left, Poland, Russia, Czech, __?__, Hungarian, and German?

but someone earlier said the Romanian was missing, meaning #4 is the Bulgarian? is that right?

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>>33526873
>filename
kek

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>>33527160
Yep, Bulgaria used a unique copy of the German Splinter camouflage after WW2, and simply changed the color, shapes, and uniform from the 1950's until about 2002.

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>>33527121
But they have such a cheery song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge9u1c-w9mc

>>33523322
The T-55 was produced in Poland until 1979

>>33523671
>Watches Rambo II
>Dimitri I have idea!
>Orders PSE compound bow and starts bringing it to the range.

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>>33524996
No. Soldiers called them szelki-dusicielki (suspenders-stranglers) for a reason.
You can't even lock the pouches in one place, they move about freely and if you take of the belt, everything falls off.

But, to be perfectly fair, there is a theory that Soviets kept us backwards in terms of tech, because they ware afraid to allow us to have more modern stuff.
Don't know if it's true, but the Czechoslovaks and Eastern Germans had more modern equipment.

>>33527826
>a theory that Soviets kept us backwards in terms of tech
The Soviets gave Poland licenses for the production of their most modern tanks and MANPADS, and I doubt that the warpac webbing choices were regulated by the Soviets.

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>>33527826
The Russians wanted all members to have similar gear.
All Warsaw members had that same style of "slide-on" webbing, some like the East Germans just made them a bit better than others.
They all are still pretty terrible in comparison to some of the Western ones.

Was stuff like uniforms, webbing, etc. left up to individual nations. East Germany had their own stuff but the less wealthy members probably just got Soviet surplus.
Of course, their weapons and vehicles should have all been interchangeable...aside from those weirdo Czechs.

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>>33528323

>>33528392
I envy that so fucking much...

>>33528303
When the fuck did East Germans get RPG-18s?

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>>33528456
Not sure.

>http://www.theakforum.net/forums/47-inert-ordnance/58562-sold-east-german-rpg-18-w-operating-manual-reduced-sold.html

>>33528303
Yea, I have parts of the Czechoslovaikan ones, East German, etc... they are very similar.
I've been playing with it recently, can take pics if want. The east german belt is too wide for some pouches though...

We are being screwed.

All of us.

>>33519044
>>33523134
>>33518985
>>33523134
Thanks you guys. I really wasn't expecting replies like that. It truly is a magical place.
Dutchbro, if you visit Sunny Beach or one of the other summer resorts buy your booze from the stores, bars serve absolute garbage and overcharge 10 fold. In general our resorts are kinda cheap for Western standards, but to be honest Greece is way nicer for the summer - better beaches, better food and real booze. The downside is Greek women are disgusting and super high maintenance.
On the other hand if you visit Sofia or one of the other larger cities there is plenty of shit to do, it's even cheaper than the sea side and the night life is pretty bangin. Downside is no sea and occasionally the architecture is pretty ugly.

>>33519104
Haha, no. The main art director for HL2 was a Bulgarian.

>>33518985
>Bulgarians make the best AKs.
No. The poles do.

>>33519450
By the way, this guy is hilarious to watch if you understand bulgarian. He speaks in what is basically our version of a very heavy southern drawl, that combined with the usual rasslin' overacting is laughs for days.

>>33526652
Just love the look of total indifference on the guys face. 25mm firing into the building 100ft from us, meh...such is life in soviet romania

>>33527826
Skąd Ty?

>>33528924
A co?

>>33528988
Można byłoby spotkać, na strzelnicę pójść.

>>33529013
Z pewnoscią masz masę społecznosci militarnych gdziekolwiek mieszkasz. Ja mieszkam w Stolnicy.

>>33529025
Z pewnością mam i nawet może do nich należę, ale ciekawie byłoby się spotkać z jakimś gościem z /k/ z Polski. Co do ,,Stolnicy'' to nawet nie ma takiej miejscowości...

>>33529042
Nazywa się Wargszawa.
Co do spotykania kogos z /k/ - /k/ nie jest niczym szczególnym, ot, kolejna stronka.
Kiedys jeszcze zaglądali weterani, więc można było przeżyć dzieci smieci ktore tu syfią, teraz co raz ciezej o to.

>>33529062
Wciąż zaglądają, tylko mniej bo już z woja wywaleni i w czym innym siedzą...

>>33515564
dem helmets

>>33529419
want one?

>>33522518
> and would most likely rebel in time of war.

For things like that is why they never got nice things like the t-64.

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>>33528323
this is kinda a late answer
soviet surplus was a thing in the 50s, especially since the USSSR had plenty of tanks it was replacing and it was also giving away early jets like Yak 23
Czechoslovakia and Polanda license produced a lot of heavy equipment tanksand aircraft and had their own APC designs
Hungary made it's own armored recon car the FUG
Bulgaria build it's own IFVs based on the MTLB/Gvozdika chassis
Romania was a more interesting affair, especially after 1968. They produced BTR-60/70/80 and BMP-1 under license but with Sagem engines. They buiult their own versionof the T-55 but with diffenrent running gear and with a engine copying the one on the Leopard 1
The built french helicopters, the Alouette and Puma and designed an attack plane with Yugoslavia. Also built thier own APC for mountain troops and an BRDM-2 analogue (the TABC-79). Soviet equipment was bought only in small quantities (lack of funds was a cause, but also lack of trust in the USSR), but it was also one of the first foreign customers for the T-72 (and sold one to China) and Kilo submarine
Also in the 70s Romania started using a helmet modeled on it's WW2 one

>>33517488
I only feel bad for the East German soldiers because of the shit deal they got from reunification. Everyone else was probably partying hard because they didn't have to die for Russians.

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>>33519316

>>33525539
The heck is that thing on the SKS?

>>33530499
>>33530499
Very many soldiers(all who weren't drafted) of the NVA got simply transferred into the bundeswehr and continued their service as before. The DDR was a communist shithole(although the best shitholes of it all) which deserved to perish.

>inb4 cucked germany
The DDR had also plenty of immigrants, mostly gooks and negros.

>>33515378
>image limit reached
new thread?

>>33531927
it's a training tool that allows an instructor to see a trainee's sight picture and help them correct their mistakes. It's a pretty old concept that dates back to the Victorian era (maybe earlier), similar tools were made for use with the Martini-Henry.

>>33528490
what did he mean by this?