Video Games with realistic weapons/shooting mechanics

>>33507669
i really liked killing floor 2

Red Orchestra 2/Rising Storm. you can even play as a damn commie you Eurofag

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>>33507669
RO2/RS is fun
I enjoy Arma too, Squad isn't my kind of thing

maybe try Insurgency/Day of Infamy, Battlefield 1 and Far Cry 4?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ydzw94UaNM

>I'm a Eurofag
>who only has air-soft weapons
>I only get a chance to fire every other weekend

I'm a yuropoor too, where are you from?

>>33508083
>Battlefield 1

no

>>33508120
why not?

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>>33507669
>ARMA 3
>Killing Floor 2
>Red Orchestra 2/Rising Storm
>Insurgency
>Squad (I tired this one, could never connect to any servers).

>>33508083
The bullet drop is excellent in bf1

>>33507669
No such thing. Now game can allow you do this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tOOmDljwSA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eHTsaCo03Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ3XwizTqDw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fwb-9aYDa0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7G-sOC3-sQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxxT8ObGdIQ
Video games guns are incredibly slow, short ranged and inaccurate. Most are airsoft tier.

>>33508163
Are you fucking serious?

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>>33508303
if he just wants to shoot some guns, BF1 is totally fine
sure, it sure is a "reimagination" of WW1
but the gunplay is solid and fun

>>33508303
yeah, and im still waiting for a reason why it isn't realistic?

>>33508083
Portugal. Wbu?

>>33508347
Austria
is it really that hard to get funs in Portugal?

>>33508337

>Get shot in the torso
>Walk away from it
>Get gassed
>Quickly put a gas mask on
>All okay
>Shotguns lose their effectivety at 20 feet

>Realistic

???

Bf1 is fun sure. But it's not realistic.

Rising Storm 2 is coming out soon.

>>33508357
It's more of a hassle. Even then you can only get small arms. Don't even think about getting a rifle unless you wanna get swallowed into the bureaucratic vortex of permits you need to go through to get yourself a decent rifle.

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As an AR owner I can say that Insurgency captures the sound and feel of shooting an AR better than any game I've ever played. I'm sure you can mod ARMA 2 or 3 to hell and back to get an even better experience, but out of the box Arma feels like airshit and as you can see I'm playing on a fucking toaster, so Insurgency is a good recommendation.

>Leveling system
>Ranked and Unranked servers
>Buggy release
>Rising Storm integrated with RO2

I still hate Tripwire for that. Red Orchestra 2/Rising Storm is my least favorite

>>33508423

If you think RO2 was buggy on release, just wait for RS2. They break more and more things as they go.

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>>33508083

>that tunnel vision fov
>weapon takes a third of screen
>that motion sickness inducing weapon bob

Nope.

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>>33508437
>tfw wave 6 is way more unstable then wave 4 and before

Im loving RO2 right now, just recently clocked 25 hours. The Tank gameplay is one of the best in any game

I like warthunder's tank gameplay especially with the modern mbt April fools event they did, assuming it's up there in terms of realism regarding tank armor, bullet velocity etc I'm surprised just how resilient the upper frontal glacis of modern tanks can be I always thought with how advanced and deadly ap rounds are theyd mostly penetrate armor with ease

>>33508387
>Shotguns lose their effectivety at 20 feet
if only this was true

Does /k/ or /v/ still have arma team?
Is it still a shitty circlejerk or ridiculously packed chock with mods?

where are you from in Europe?
In germany you can join a shooting club, witch I will do after military service.
Also archery is quite popular and unregulated.

legal to own, and carry.
Legal to fire on public property when there is at least one person who got the license for that.

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Far Cry has excellent realism

If you want realistic bullet physics, STALKER SoC or CoP is your best bet. With bugfixes the games run fine, and can be modded to have as much extra content as you want

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>>33508477
Fucking Hue City

>>33508848
he stated to be from Portugal

Germany is pretty fucked up
>join a shooting club
and wait one year?
yeah, now
go to Austria and buy your bolt action k98k with 18y without any kind of permit

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>>33508387
is this shotgun more your speed?

>>33508083
>recommending the worst Far Cry when 2 and 3 have realism mods and only cost a couple of bucks

Project Reality. mod for BF2/Arma 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOkgUU9W5MU

>>33508690
Tanks in RO1 were even better. There were more of them, not just Pz3's and 4's. They worked properly. You could easily get a friend in your tank, no fighting the spawn system.

>>33508990
>far cry 3

>make secondary antagonist so much better than the primary one that nobody even remembers the primary antagonist

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>>33508959
>get gun illegaly
>get labeled as a terrorist imidietly and get jailed
I dont own enough to shoot the gun without anybody noticing
I also have right wing views witch I express witch gives me a multiply of 10 to normal punnishments for illegal stuff.

I am also not aware that I would need to wait one year.

>>33508870
Is that supposed to be an ar?

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What do you guys think of Ghost Recon Wildlands?
I've never played a Tom Clancy game before

>>33508265
Have you never played Arma? It's a pretty solid representation of ballistics. The only thing that blows is the sounds, but there are mods to fix it.

>>33508423
What's wrong with the leveling system? It's not like it actually matters. The differences are intentionally quite minor and ultimately have little effect

>>33509106
Just no

>>33507711

>killing floor 2

LOADING A NEW CLIP

>>33509106
Wildlands was awesome when i turned the difficulty all the way up and turned off the hud.

>>33508347
Oh boy Portugal.

The country where gypsies and blacks get into gun fights in plain daylight with illegal guns, where's daily shootings and all armed robberies with real machine guns, but everyone acts as if the gun laws work perfectly when you need to go through a ton of shit just to own a double barrel shotgun legally.

Man what a nice country with such shit gun laws.

>>33509043
WTF is going on in this picture? Half of them anchor correctly and the other half pull to their chest. I'm guessing this is just a form I'm not familiar with. Anyone know?

>>33509106
Go with at least one other player or don't go at all.

>>33508265
Arma 3 plus ACE. The 300 Win mag and .416 Cheytac require a Kestral.

>>33509552
oh I didnt even notice.
Not a single one of them anchors classicly correctly.

first is way to low and 2 fingers above the arrow one under.
2nd has her front arm a little bent and pulls to her ear
3rd hasnt completly drawn
4th also bent arm
5th acctually looks good if she has a kisser
the last 2 are aiming much higher then the others

But they even have mathching outfits.

My best guess is that its a trip of working colegues and they just pose for a picture.

>>33509552
>>33509629
oh the pic is from here http://www.kassai.at/austria/offenetage.htm

So I guess they were photographed when they have drawn for some type of instinctive shooting.

>>33509031
>far cry 4
>make a likeable supporting character from the previous game into a minor antagonist

>>33509684

"What am I taking these pictures for, anyway? [Over.]"

"Oh AJ, I won't lie to you... [Over.]"

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Fucking Hue City...

>>33509106
the same with "The Division"
fucks given for the first 2 months
after that nobody gives a shit

>>33508990
> not Farcry 1

>>33508883
>wind doesn't exist
>end game sniper rifles are still horribly horribly inaccurate
>no difference in accuracy between standing, kneeling, or prone/no options for using support
>everything has the trajectory of a spitball, even with the svd-s anything beyond ~200m requires shooting dozens of meters high

>>33508166
I had same prob with squad, reinstall fixed it (although I'm sure there's easier ways)

>>33509106
Plays more like an RPG than FPS.

99% of the game is a scavenger hunt.

Dumbest AI in any shooter since Goldeneye

1999 tier physics.

>>33509481
>access to optics
>mag capacity for MGs and SMGs
>total ammo carried
>weapon sway
>suppression resistance
>hero classes
Yeah sure is minor. Totally.

>>33510456
>>wind doesn't exist
I'm sure there are mods to add this in
>>end game sniper rifles are still horribly horribly inaccurate
You don't understand how the game calculates shot trajectory and/or you're being screwed by subsonic rounds
>>no difference in accuracy between standing, kneeling, or prone/no options for using support
That's completely wrong. A bipod mounting system would be cool, but again mods can likely add that in
>>everything has the trajectory of a spitball, even with the svd-s anything beyond ~200m requires shooting dozens of meters high
The bullet physics were modeled after real-world performances of the guns used, just highly exaggerated. If the area of the Zone were accurate in size then the bullet physics would be more accurate to match.

Next you're going to tell me that every enemy is a bullet sponge and their aim isn't fair

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>>33510565
>Next you're going to tell me that every enemy is a bullet sponge and their aim isn't fair
In vanilla they kinda are if you dont shoot em in the head.
Tfw your still playing this game 6 years later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzDy6A1e_2E

>>33509106
I wish they would go back to the old style of Tom Clancy games, but it's ok
Playing it as I type.
The game designers clearly didn't understand how reloading guns works as you can't MAG + 1 any weapon, and you charge the weapon even after a reload with one in the chamber.

Still, neat you can dress up in rl gear.

>>33510565
At the highest difficulty they are pretty damn spongy. Like 2 to 3 headshots to kill bandits even with shit like the as val or groza. This is true in vanilla and zrp, and orders of magnitude worse with misery.

>>33510485
> Dumbest AI since Goldeneye

Only when they have to work weird pathfinding, like in the mountains. I got jumped in an open field by a squad and they tried to flank me.

Newer Medal of honor

>>33510745
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaz7r2r_Fik

>>33508975
God damn. Wasn't the lethality range on that shotgun something like 2m? 3-5m is wounding distance. At 6m+ the pellets become feathers and lightly tickle the person you're shooting at.

>>33510732
Buildings is where its most apparent and easily exploitable.
>shoot 1 guy
>literally every other ai in the building runs to the body 1 at a time using the same route

>>33510779
Depended on the game. 3ish meters in 1, in 2 it was basically a loud bayonet and was out ranged by the fucking sword charge.

Onward
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSiQoGmxLqo&t=2s

Monitor gaming is for plebs

>>33510613
Call of Pripyat with Misery and The Armed Zone mods. I seriously could not tell you how many times I've gotten drunk playing that game. Literally, I think it's over 100. The amount of shots I've had while playing MUST be over 1000. Unironically over 3L of liquor have gone down my throat while playing Call of Pripyat. I started over something like 7-8 times or so simply because I wanted to collect all them firearms all over again. Here's the firearms I typically end up sticking with...

>5.45x39
AK-74 (Standard model)

>5.56x45
AK-74M rechambered to 5.56 (Basically, an AK-101
Sig 550 (Modernized I think, or Customized. Can't remember; been a while)
M4A1 (Sometimes, only on the rare occasion, just to mix it up.)

>7.62x39
AKM (Customized. You know exactly where I get it...
SKS-45 (Just the wooden stock one, but I hate that there's that stupid tape on it...)

>9x39
AS Val (Duh)

>7.62x54r
M91/30 (The one you start out with as Sniper class)
SVD-63 (Alternative. Meaning the one with iron sights. I basically use it like an SVT-40)

>7.62 Nato
L1A1

>8mm
Kar98k
STG-44 (VERY rare that I use it. So fucking heavy.)

>12 Gauge
Saiga 12k (VERY rare that I use it; I'm not all that into shotguns)

>9x18
TT33
PPSh-41

>9x19
Hi Power (Alternative, I think. Or the original. Can't remember)
MP5A3 (Doesn't really matter as long as it's no the (Worn) one)

>.357 Magnum
M1 Carbine (I alter the code so it fires this instead of 7.62 Nato)
REX Revolver (Can't remember proper name, M417 or something? Basically use it like a Webley)

>.45 ACP
M1911 (Stainless one, though might be two-tone since an update a while back)
HK UMP (Modern one I think)
M1A1 Thompson (Just for fun sometimes even though it's heavy as shit)

I never leave home base (whichever of the three sections of the map I might be in) without carrying at least ONE firearm I have personally owned before, and I only ever carry one primary firearm with either one pistol or two pistols as secondary (almost always just one)

>>33510839
Yeah, Halo 2 you practically had to have it up the target's ass to kill them in one shot.

>>33510881
Oh yeah, and about changing the code, I always do a fuckton more as well. Speed up how fast you can shoot with the TT-33 and SKS-45 so it's properly semi-auto (about 250-300 RPM at least. 5 shots per second in semi-auto isn't too hard with a good trigger and a good finger), I even speed up the Mosin and Mauser firing rates even though I can't speed up the animation, I make the PPSh-41 a bit more accurate, the MP5 a bit less accurate (still more accurate than PPSh-41), and might also increase the AKM's accuracy/damage a bit, but I try to keep everything within the realm of realism.

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>>33508337

>experimental guns
>period incorrect guns
>full power rifle rounds taking more than one shot to kill
>weak ass pistol damage models

>>33508265

Hot dogs, Horseshoes, and Hand grenades exists

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>>33508870

>FAL carry handle magically attached to some vague AR15

>Everything is on the wrong side

>Bubba fantasy rail retardation

>Look at the tiny little bolt with the spring right behind it

>Beta male programmers responsible for gun realism

>Ever

>>33509072
AR-180 If i'm right.

>>33510904
If I'm not mistaken, I think the higher-quality versions of the MP5A3 are more accurate than the lower-quality versions of the AKM, maybe the average-quality AKM matches the high-quality MP5A3, and that just seems fucked up. 123gr going 2350 ft/s being less accurate than about the same weight of bullet going almost half as slow, not to mention spitzer vs round-nosed? Yeah, no, fuck that. But the MP5 is closed-bolt while the PPSh-41 is open-bolt so even though the PPSh-41 wins in muzzle velocity in its original 7.62x25, I doubt it can be as accurate as the MP5.

Oh yeah, and then there's that FAR-15 fuckin' bullshit things. SUPER high damage with a REALLY short barrel and VERY low weight coupled with INCREDIBLE accuracy as well as having a permanent silencer/suppressor? I crank the accuracy down below the M4A1, along with the damage, I think I might also increase the weight a little bit to make it more legit, and just in general I nerf the fuck out of that thing. as for the M1 Carbine, that needs a big overhaul, not to mention it ruins the M21 a little but I'm cool with that; never use it. Heavily reduce recoil, heavily reduce damage (I do these for both M1 and M21, basically the M21 SORT of becomes a scoped M1 Carbine I think), and so on. I think what I try to compare it to is to make it a bit higher in damage/accuracy than the best MP5A3, but lower in damage/accuracy than a standard AKM. I do lots of cross-referencing to other firearms so that they're all in line with what I think would be realistic.

So obviously the M4A1 is a jam-o-matic by the time I'm done.

>Joking, /k/. Just joking. Also, yes, I might be autistic.

Escape from Tarkov sounds cool, they're trying to do a realistic everything in that game.

>>33509106
It's okay, but not as good as the originals. Those were tactical as fuck.

>>33509505
>Characters are britbongs

Please. The only way you'd see brit civilians use proper terminology is if they were /k/ommandos themselves.

>>33510985

I don't trust Russian devs as far as I can throw em.

>>33508265
I refuse to believe he took a 1000 yard shot with a 9mm. No magnification, no nothing. I mean I get this guy is a world class shooter but I don't believe it. That video has 2+ million hits. That's a pile of cash in the bank.

I've played nearly every military fps game and Squad is the most realistic, in a very raw kind of way. It's still in alpha so not as detailed as some others yet but it has a ton of potential. Play about 100 hours and you'll see just how amazing this game can be.

>>33508423
>>33509481
>>33510519
>Play as Jap
>Rever up Type 100
>Fires slower, iron sight now is a big brick warr brocking my face
Very upgraded

>>33508337
Play Verdun if you want realistic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70KBw32OZ7s

>>33509576
>you got try to do same in Arma 3
>fail
Why Arma 3 is not a realistic game?

>>33511276
You can take it back

But the slower fire rate makes the Type 100 sweet as a nut

>>33511490
Yeah, the slower firing rate makes it just about 100% controllable, and the adjustable sights make it easier to try plinking at 100-200m if you want. The sights are indeed a bit obnoxious in how they cover up so much of what you're trying to aim at, but being able to have a bayonet on your SMG is a novel idea, after all SMGs are pretty much meant to be used at fairly short distance. Can't exactly reach out and touch something at 500m or 1km with one unless you're perhaps Hickok45 though then it would have to be in his typical pistol-sniping format, complete with chuckles.

>>33508464
>>Far Cry 4.

Mounted HMG bounces around like a jumping castle, when it is mounted on a pintle. What the fuck. The MG42 is cool, but it is entertainment, not a gun sim.

Receiver

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Based Arma 3 sniping.

>>33512149
This. Such a /k/-related game. I've beaten it so damn many times and I LOVE it! Gets my heart pumping like crazy.

>>33507669
what country?

>>33510938
when you shoot someone in the chest with any of the sniper rifles and they get up and run away while you're actuating the bolt

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>>33511042
This. Play as the British commando if you want your one liners to be tactical and shit.

The biggest crime about Killing Floor 2 besides the CSGO style marketplace is that it got rid of the light hearted cockney British slang and humor.

>>33510671
AS-VAL fires those subsonic rounds though. Gotta use AP rounds man.
Or git gud with something not silenced - the Sig550 is a tack driver and does good damage even without a scope.

Also, learn to let time pass between shots at long distance. The shot accuracy timer is the biggest annoyance in the game.

>>33512403
>I AM WELDING THIS DOAH

Although as a Danefag, I can't help but love the developers for Evacuation Point.

The humor is so fucking spot on I'm certain a Dane had a hand in making that map.

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OLD ASS game and it's dead but holey F C U K

UT99's Infiltration mod.

>game was made in ~2000
>17 fucking years ago
>no other game beats it in terms of realism and features

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o52V6JsjrJc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDpMGgUTPCM

For fucking sake, the game has an M9 that has a different hammer animation for when you shoot it in DA or SA. Only game I can think of that does this as well is maybe MGS2 which was also an early 00's game.

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>>33509106
>What do you guys think of Ghost Recon Wildlands?

Haven't played it and don't plan on. Ubisoft has proven, time and time again that they cannot deliver a good open world game.

Want to play some actual good Tom Clancy licensed games?
>early Rainbow Six games like 2 and 3 or hell, even Vegas 1 & 2 are pretty decent
>early Ghost Recons
>early Splinter Cells

Seriously, your time is better spent playing videogames that are actually good. In my opinion, videogames in it of themselves are pretty much a waste of fucking time, at least play one that is good if you insist.

Socom 1 & 2 are also pretty dope.

>>33510519
O I don't remember any of that shit. Realism mode is all I play though, I don't know if alot of that applies

>>33508337
The guns in BF1 are incredibly rare, many of them only in the prototype stage at some point during the tail end of the war. While this does show a high level of research it is wasted to give an accurate depiction of the first world war.

Even some of the rare guns produced before the war only saw limited use and were nowhere as common as BF1 would have you think. Usually said guns - in particular the semi-automatics - would face issues with jamming in muddy conditions.

Guns that could reasonably be said to be in a first world war trench have a much higher rate of fire in BF1 than is reasonable, for example I have seen gameplay footage with the Gewehr 1888 shooting practically one shot a second. While drills like the 'Mad Minute' were a thing, it is a stretch to expect such a high rate of fire consistently.

All in all BF1 takes a lot of things that might perhaps be could have been, I will repeat that
might
perhaps be
could have been, things that are incredibly unlikely to happen and make them the norm in their first world war game, the effect of this is obvious, it makes their game a fast-paced first person shooter similar to the modern shooters but is in no way an accurate depiction of what the first world war was.

And no, I am not saying that a first world war shooter needs to be about sitting in a trench for days without seeing the enemy, but something like Verdun is far closer to realism than BF1. BF1 is often compared to Verdun for that reason (like I just did), but as Verdun makes an attempt, but the attempt is still far from realistic.

IMFDB has a good list of the guns and lampshades some of the obscurities but most obscurities only become evident when you research the individual guns.
>http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Battlefield_1

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>>33510948
Fucking this. If you have access to a Vive, give it a try.
Solid gun simulator and it's been constantly updated for the last 8 months or so.

>>33513828
Plenty of games have done this better. take off your nostalgia glasses.

>>33515636
>doesnt name them

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Has squad any chance of letting one weekend free to people can test it before buying?

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>>33516030
http://joinsquad.com/readArticle?articleId=153
just saw it, aparently not only squad will be free for an weekend, it will be at 50% too..

I'll probably test and probably buy it then

>>33515636
Name at least five. I'll wait.

My biggest problem with squad is lag. I can't seem to get it to play smoothly. I have a powerful desktop and shouldn't have any problem running it, but I get the jitters something fierce

Anyone here ever play 7.62 High Calibre? It's operator as fuck and has a really wide selection of guns.

>>33516711
yeah but it suffers from 'made in russia' syndrome

>>33516847
Blue Sun Mod and community patch come with it on steam

>>33515611
I would totaly buy Vive if it wasn't so expensive

>>33516030
yeah it's called project reality

>>33508083

>BF1
>Far Cry 4

Do you want me to beat you to death with a history book and collection of after action reports?

day of infamy
verdun
red orchestra 2/rising storm

>>33516909
Info from a few months ago implied the next model is a complete redesign, and a shitload cheaper for it. Keep an eye out in the next few months.

H3VR now supports Rift too, but that's just as expensive currently

Also - theres a Counterstrike game (Pavlov) and Insurgency (Onward) that are full multiplayer VR. And IronWolf for Silent Hunter fans

>>33517206
Neat not sure if my room is big enough though

>>33508421
Habe you messed around in arma 3's shooting range? Its interesting to see what projectiles do to certain things.
Lioe you can see the bullet paths and stuff, they are even able to capture a handgun round being deflected slightly by an angled glass windshield on a car and stuff.
I wouldn't call arma "airshit" at all, infact insurgency is much more airshit than any other game. Its not like people die in a single shot like in insurgency (or airshit) in real life.

Arma 3 with ACE3 enabled

>>33510519
Lmao, all of the useful unlocks unlock at 25.
You only get optics on the avt and thats at lvl 50
Ro2/rs maps are too small to give real benefit to higher powered optics (and infact hinder your ability to do medium/close range combat)
>hero classes
My god, I can use a nugget on the german team, what will you ever do...

>>33512189
This is w/ ACE isn't it? Im pretty sure arma usually doesnt take wind into account.

metro games

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>>33517103
I do get why people hate BF1
fucking up history is bad, but tell me
is there an other game where I can blast sand-niggers with my swedish Sjögren shotgun?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f14Do0JNH00

>>33517476

I literally can't play BF1 type games anymore. I need muh realism or one shot kills.

Also BF1 is a game I would never buy because of how they fucked up the portrayal of WW1.

>>33517483
>one shot kills
go hardcore then

>>33517483
This. I basically can't play a FPS unless it has bullet drop, bullet travel, realistic selection of firearms for the time period, realistic recoil, and generally one-shot kill if the hit is center-mass, ESPECIALLY with a rifle round. Also preferably an inventory system that takes into account weight, and if it's a sandbox style FPS then I'll want a hunting mechanic, eating (and perhaps drinking) mechanic, and so on. Sleeping mechanic would be nice too.

I loved TES III Oblivion on the XBOX 360, no clue how many hours I played on it, but when I discovered modding via computer gaming and managed to get eating/drinking/sleeping as well as fatigue loss when sprinting, it became a whole new game for me. It basically became my ideal sandbox fantasy game. I don't like Skyrim as much, and I don't think even with a wide variety of mods to improve realism that I'd like it as much as Oblivion. It's just so beautiful.

My ideal post-apocalyptic style survival horror FPS would be STALKER: Call of Pripyat with Misery and The Armed Zone mods. For a WWII FPS, Red Orchestra II and Rising Storm (even though Rising Storm is a little less realistic). I also realize that CoP is not post-apoc, but it does have that kind of feel where it's a dog-eat-dog world and technology is more-or-less gone.

>>33517206
>And IronWolf for Silent Hunter fans
>VR submarine command

Oh my. I hope it can run on a fast laptop so i can play it sitting in the garden during winter.

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>>33507669
receiver would be a great way to satisfy fascinations about firearms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=170&v=GCThInmzjXw

The game is just the shooter, treat it as such.
But this is well made.

>THE BEST GUN ANIMATION IN BF1 - Springfield M1903 Experimental Guide


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG-hw6jQvzA

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>>33517832
It's the closest you can come to going to a shooting range, without actually going to a shooting range. I mean, you have to load up your magazines yourself, you have to learn how the firearm functions, if you make a stupid mistake like not chambering a round or if you try to shoot an M1911 while it's not cocked then you won't get very far. After you get through the steep learning curve though, once you've gotten your muscle memory built up and you get in that intense situation where you have to make a fast reload under stress while running, when you do it successfully, manage to stay alive, and take out the thing that's trying to kill you... it feels so fucking satisfying. How did I have the controls set up... they might be altered (probably) or they might be standard controls, I don't know.

Q is the mag release or cylinder release button
If you have a mag in your other hand, pressing Q again will drop it
Q might also be the button for using the ejection rod on the cylinder to remove the empty casings
E inserts a round in the mag if you holster your pistol first
E inserts the mag in the pistol if you have the pistol unholstered
E inserts a cartridge in the cylinder if you have the cylinder open on your revolver
R racks the slide
R removes a round from the mag if you holster your pistol (you only have 2 hands)
R manipulates the ejector rod on the cylinder? (Can't remember)
F cocks the hammer on the M1911
F manipulates the fire select switch on the Glock 17 that's converted to Glock 18?
Holding F, pulling the trigger, letting go of the trigger, and releasing F, decocks the M1911 or revolver I think
V might be the slide-stop
V might be the ejection rod on the cylinder (can't remember, it probably is)
V might be the fire select switch on the Glock (It's been a while since I played the game, sadly)
Hold V, press R, release R, and release V will lock the slide back (if V is indeed the slide-stop)

You can do almost any IRL handgun manipulation in the game.

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>>33513828
That's impressive. I really have to try this game. And I love the graphics, it looks surprisingly like Half-Life:Firearms.

Bit of a niche category but Hotdogs, horseshoes and hand grenades is an excellent game.

I've watched the developers blog a couple of times and he is super dedicated and enthusiastic about the whole game. Really nice to see.

>>33517262
In vidya "dying" is synonymous with "wounded and disabled for the duration."

Escape from Tarkov.
the firefights are goddamn intense
> i dont trust russians
fuck off

>>33517955
Yeah, gotta remember that someone doesn't need to die to be taken out of a fight. It's brutal, but I love the addition of the nut shots in RO2/RS. If you get the icon of an acorn after taking someone down, it means you shot them in the junk. No matter what you shot them there with, whether rifle or pistol, they're down for the count. God help any poor soul who ever got bayoneted in the dick... God damn...

>>33513828

Infiltration was pretty hardcore. Might have hurt my hearing shooting that SAW like a maniac.

What I wish more games did these days is make the weapon collide with the environment while aiming down sight instead of jumping you out of ADS. That shit gets me killed too often in Day of Infamy.

>>33512149
Get the mod pack if you want more than pistols. With that you get a generic bolt action rifle, a mossberg, a thompson and a C96.

>>33510954
>I have no idea what an ar-180 is- the post
Nice work anon.

>>33517942
>Hotdogs, horseshoes and hand grenades
really a great work that dude is putting out there

>>33517925
Infiltration is impossible to play today. I've tried everything to get it to run but it doesn't work anymore unless your computer is from the stone age.

Aiming a gun with your mouse and pressing a button to reload is pretty realistic.

>>33517262
I hate the body armor mechanic.

>body armor
>shot four times and dies
>shoot his gun four times
>ricochet and different directions

>>33510954
Man, catposters are the most retarded people on Earth.

>>33509106
I still can't believe there are people in this board who like wildlands.

It's literally a cookie cutter shooter.

>>33507669

>airsoft
>weapons

Kek

>>33518548
thanks anon, im building a purposely shitty PC for those CRT screen aesthetics and I was looking for old games to play

>>33518978

Yeah, but it's a reasonably well made cookie cutter shooter. Kinda the game equivalent of a 6/10 action flick. Good for having a few beers, relaxing, and clearing out a few drug dealer strongholds when you don't want anything too stressful/intensive.

>>33512189
While I love ACE especially with other weapon mods/packs, the physics sometimes fucks with sight zeros and can impart unrealistic amounts of wind.
>Using RHS m4 block 2 with elcan
>Engaging at 200m with mk262
>2-3 minute holdovers for wind on unmoving targets
>Range marks on elcan cease to be accurate
I usually just use mk262 tracer and Kentucky windage but it can get annoying.

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>>33507669
Fuck Red Orchestra 2, it's just a cheap ripoff without support.
You should try out RO1 Mod Darkest Hour. Weapon handling and combat situations are far more realistic. It also has a active community with a lot of veterans and is still beeing worked on by the mod team.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsbDTgNoEx9M4ibty2Rg7j3eOXHBcD_k4

>>33517294
Stock Arma 3 has incredibly sophisticated bullet physics. ACE just adds in the ability to manually compensate for it.
>>33517279
Personally i love running a SARC medic loadout with advanced wounding enabled. The radial medical menu makes field aid and surgery so much fun.

>>33518629
Aim for the side. Goes between the plates and instakills. Also get asr ai 3, fixes/adds a lot of ai reactions.

>>33519203
You're gonna need an old OS and either the pirated ISO version of UT99 or the physical disk of it.

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>>33507669
Play Squad. It is one of the only games with good weapon mechanics.

>>33519371
why would you want to play as an astigmatic as your FPS character? Are there other disability options as well at character creation?

>>33519391
call me crazy but I actually like that feature in games. it simulates your character having to avert his vision to his reload instead of his surroundings. I know there are plenty of shooters both military and civilian in the world who can reload quickly without looking, but it's a good gameplay mechanic. it forces you to be more aware of when you can safely reload, since you can't reload and watch for targets at the same time.

>>33511077
Well they did cut out all the extra takes and he's shooting at a 3'x4' steel - bigger than man size. It's kind of the equivalent of those basketball/etc trick shot videos. Who knows how many tries it took to land it once.

>>33508975
I remember that you can kill people in multiplayer a pretty good ways off if they had no shield.

>>33507669
Play doom and be an interdimensional operator

>>33510881
Misery mod is hot garbage IMO.
I enjoyed the first iteration (after the patch that was needed to make it playable. Exhausted after walking 75 meters carrying 18kg of gear?), but 2.0 was shit. Played it for maybe a week and uninstalled, I have Arsenal 3.0 now.
>FNP-45
>AK-74M with an optic, AUG A1, or SVU
>Saiga 12K for close encounters

>>33519406
Why do so called "realistic games" implement totally unrealistic features? How do we solve this problem?

>>33508333
At least I get to bayonet niggers.

>>33519765
To each their own. I adore Misery and The Armed Zone. Pretty sure I have 2.0 as well, but been playing it since probably 1.7 or so. Can't really remember; years ago.

>>33509526
Thats bullshit

>>33520940
I really enjoyed firefights and such in Misery, but I thought that the attempts at increased difficulty went way to far into grindy, unreasonable bullshit.
>Nigh-unkillable zombies with pinpoint accuracy
>Starving to death if you don't eat multiple times every day
>New to 2.0, virtually no ability to get weapons or armour (that aren't in absolutely garbage, 10% condition) without buying them
>Economy that is completely broken with everything being hilariously expensive for no reason
SILENT BLOODSUCKERS FUCKING REALLY
Etc. etc.

>>33520940
Misery was fucking bullshit

>Engage high level enemy
>Enemy spews thousands of oneshotting pinpoint accuracy rounds
>Never jam or even seem to reload
>Finally get the 7 highly realistic headshots necessary to take them down
>They have 2 unusable rounds and half of a block soggy block of wood with "AK-47" carved into it.
>The 4 isn't even carved right and looks more like 9
>Oh look a repair kit!
>Repairs guns at 99.345% condition to 99.346% condition.

If anyone is interested, I have a good Arma group that's always looking for new blood.

>>33521343
I am

>>33521209
In two they packed every objective area with a hilarious amount of mutant spawns too just for "MUH DIFFICULTY"
Want to inspect one of the Stingray crashes? Hope you don't mind a Poltergeist, 5 snorks, 6 bloodsuckers, and a chimera inexplicably just sitting around a crashed helicopter waiting for you to show up
Also, since you mentioned the weapon models,
>Rusty polymer
I remember in the original release of Misery, before they patched it, I couldn't get more than 100m away from the Skadovsk barely carrying anything before my character was exhausted. And then I starved to death 5 ingame hours after eating 2 cans of absurdly expensive tuna.

>>33521087
>nigh-unkillable zombies with pinpoint accuracy
wut? Dude, just give me a basic AKs-74 and some dirt cheap 7N6 5.45, coupled with a silencer/suppressor. I'll be popping heads no problem, and they'll barely touch me. Utilise some cover, man, and work on your accuracy.

>Starving to death if you don't eat multiple times every day
This is a pretty fair point; I've woken up in the morning in the game with my hunger at red, and I think your health starts to deteriorate at that point. That's excessive, but still, you ought to be eating several times a day. If you only eat one meal a day for a long time during which you'll be doing LOADS of long-distance travel and heavy lifting, you'll be starving yourself.

>Weapons in shit condition
Give it time; it's not THAT hard to find firearms in repairable condition. Find stashes, get some repair/cleaning kits, and do the work yourself. Don't rely on Cardan for everything.

>Economy that is completely broken
You think it's easy getting things into The Zone? People are killed regularly, people are dying of malnutrition, of radiation poisoning, etc. If you want good stuff, it's not going to be cheap.

>>33521209
I'm starting to think you guys just suck at the game.

>>33521436
Say what you want, but I distinctly remember how, when I played the first iteration of Misery, zombies seemed to shrug off multiple headshots before going down. I'd have a optic, and could watch tracers fly straight into their face, and they'd just flinch slightly and keep shambling
>Shit condition weapons
I maintain that virtually every weapon found being broken is fucking stupid, and repairing anything is no easier considering how useless the kits are and the fact that paying for it is ludicrously expensive
>Economy
It's not like it's even just good stuff that's hard to get. There is no way that even a basic, rusty AK should cost a shitton in a lawless wasteland in the Ukraine

>>33510745
I liked the one before Warfighter. I think it was just Medal Of Honor, came with a bonus HD version of Frontlines too.

I think it captures the spec ops feel in Afghanistan pretty nicely. All the random AK variants with different furniture was cool as shit. Multiplayer sucked though.

>>33511071
I'd imagine many of them are Slavic manlets that would be relatively easy to throw.

>>33521477
There are still things like Mosins, Mausers, Lee Enfields, and SKS rifles being found on battlefields. Some people just can't afford things like assault rifles, even rusty ones.

>>33521687
And even those beat-up old milsurp guns, when you find them, sell for like 10,000 rubles somehow
Hell even stuff like a single can of tuna costs as much as an AK in the base game

>nobody has modded MGSV into a super detailed 80's mercenary oper8shun simulator
I'm still mad that the behind the scenes stuff of running Mother Base got drastically cut in favor of an Assassin's Creed esque timesink facebook game.

>>33518978
A game made for and by dale chance

>>33521757
>10,000 rubles
I wonder how much that is in dollars? Anyways, it doesn't matter, The Zone has its own needs and standards. Supply and demand are entirely different there. Personally, in the game, I typically sell the imported food, I hunt and cook the food I eat, and I wash it down with cheap zone-produced vodka to deal with the radiation. Every time I drink vodka in the game, I take a shot of liquor in real life. If I have no booze to drink IRL then THAT is when I'll drink imported stuff in the game so that I can save the in-game vodka for another time.

>>33508827
A3g is dead and banned from /VG/

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>>33507669
Medal of Honor Warfighter had GOAT-tier weapon models and attachments. But thats mainly it, since the game fucked up on release, maybe 1 or 2 servers on PC playing. Kinda sad because I loved the game.

Other than that, Arma I believe is pretty accurate, I guess. Ghost Recon: Wildlands isnt too bad, but still far off.

Wish Dice LA was given the opportunity to do a full out MoH game. Same customization as warfighter, just even more in depth. Very similar to real SOF's loadouts, new frostbite engine, get rid of killstreaks, larger maps with more freedom to move, yet focus on CQB and advancing from point to point.

I don't know how accurate it is to real life, but Rainbow Six Siege's gunplay is fucking stellar.

>>33521423
Look up Combat Operations for the Freedom of Everyone Everywhere on Steam Groups. All the info you need is there.

>>33522278
I always hated Stalker's treatment of Radiation - I get that it's meant to make the game gamier, but it would be nice if Rads were a more under-the-hood mechanic involving a lot of guesswork and the main in-game mechanic that rads represent was more of a Sanity thing. Would make drinking booze to maintain your Sanity work better than the alcohol thinning your blood excuse.

>>33523182
I just love to have good games to get drunk to, and I find Call of Pripyat with Misery and The Armed Zone mods to be outstandingly good. With The Armed Zone, you can also have your ammo counter removed, so it's up to YOU to keep track of how many rounds you have left, or more precisely, how many mags you have left. I try to get loadouts in which I have multiples of mag capacity so I can think of it as mags instead of as X-amount of ammo. I also regularly go around The Zone with a partial magazine so as to maintain my number of mags, generally using mags up until they're empty unless I'm in a very tough situation. Even then though, generally, if I have a 30-rnd mag then I won't reload until I have at least 9 or less rounds remaining. Also, yes, I count my rounds and it's VERY rare that I lose count.

I almost always fire in semi-auto unless I'm against an intense mutant that needs to be filled with jacketed lead in very short order, or if I'm using a PPSh-41. I typically keep that in full-auto and fire in short bursts.

>>33523735
Dude stop shilling Misery you fucking autismo

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Reminder that the Horseshoes Hotdogs and Hand Grenades dev is an sjw PC faggot who put a 5 minute apology in a video for having muslim terrorist targets, and had to squeeze in a ten minute segment about how he hates Drumpf for a video near the election.
>I still watch his videos because they're entertaining
>Onward seems way better though

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>>33522141
I'm salty that the fucking walker tank they spent half the game hyping up was never actually pilotable and could only be used as a glorified force multiplier effect in that shitty mercenary deployment resource RNG lottery minigame.
>dicktease me by letting me walk around it half finished
>lolol too bad faggot, u want badass walker tank, here unfinished game fuck u
KOJIMAAAAAA

>>33514182
this

especially the part about how bf1 is similar to other fast pace fps's. Nothing new, just more of the same but with A LOT of liberties taken on historical accuracy.

>>33512281
do they at least have a game mode where bolt actions actually 1 hit kill?

>>33514182
Back to Basics mode gives everyone nation specific rifles depending on the map.

Its slows the game down alot.

>>33517903
H3VR is Receiver but not clunky as fuck. Includes hammer manipulation, press checks, HK slaps and AR smacks

>>33526222
More Konami's fault than Kojima's. They gave him a ridiculously short amount of time to make a game and an entirely new engine for it to run on.

>>33527215
>Back to Basics mode

Battlefield 1? Has that always fucking been there or am I just stupid?

>>33527462
Yea. Its under custom game modes. I don't think they really announced when they added it.

Anything battlefield, 4, hardline and 1 are all real shooting, windage and elevation. You can't just shoot and expect get a headshot because you shit at the general direction. Nothing beats battlefield game, pro
Tip, it wont

Cod is the worst of the worst whenjit comes to real life accuracy

>>33527511
I have to admit that does solve many of my grievances with bf1

>>33517294
Yes. AtragMX.

>>33507669
americas army

>>33510839
>>33510779
shotgun is the best gun h1-h3, you just suck

>>33521757
>>33521477

the point of misery is to tell other people you play it so you get hardcore stalk fan street cred.

>>33528975
>>33521477
>>33521436
>>33521087
>>33510881
>>33519765
Misery is literal trash.
This is coming from someone with several hundred hours in all the games combined.

It's the definition of artificial bullshit difficulty.

>>33524614
I think someone's buttmad because they're not good at vidyagaymes.

>>33527402
Never heard of it, sounds interesting though.

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>>33529015
>dood u dont like misery? lmao ur bad at games!!
the mod is literal shit that is popular because of its austimo marketing.
I'd rather play a slav mod like People Soup or even Reborn than that garbage

>>33529026
There was nothing wrong with misery and you're only saying that because it's an unpopular opinion. stop.

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>>33508975
>2552
>still using pump action

Yeah alright

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>>33529037
>there is nothing wrong with artificial difficulty

>>33508421
escape from tarkov does an even better job. It feels so damn real to me

MW2 had pretty good weapon models. Also forever the best part in the series

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>>33530496
pic

>>33529037
I just got misery and holy fuck this is hard as shit. Snu snus take like 5 mosin shots.

>>33530502
is that a famas

>>33530623
No

>>33530496
You spelled MW1 wrong. MW2 started faggotory with over 9000 killstreaks.

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>>33508083

Far Cry 2 as well, with the right mods and while ignoring that the people who animated the guns are retarded,

>>33531086
Good god this hurts to look at

>>33507669
Battlefield 4 did pretty well in the weapons department, fuckin' smooth-as-butter animations as well, really well made if you want a modern scene. Plus there's a lot of good, German servers.

Battlefield 1 if you want to be a special, diverse snowflake shooting experimental weapons at best, basically nonexistent at worst.

Though you can snipe Turks with a good old bolt action, so there's that.

>>33509106
NO

>>33531086
>just shoves the stripper clip in their

oh god I am laughing

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>>33531319
>mfw when BF4 PC has more players than BF1 PC

>>33531454
What about the reload for the M1903A4 in Resident Evil 4? Just takes a clip, jams it almost sideways at the magazine, and somehow strips the clips off of it into the rifle. More like he's reloading an M1941 Johnson rather than an M1903A4.

>>33531537
If Gaben were skinny, I think he'd look like John Lennon.

The shooting in Hunter: Call of the Wild is pretty good.

Tracking animals innawoods is pretty great too.

>>33527427
Are you retarded?
KojiPro developed the FOX engine themselves, and as the head of KojiPro falling behind schedule and going over budget was entirely Kojima's fault.
It's true Konami was trying to divorce them the entire time, but Kojima is still at fault for completely failing to finish his game - and even had the game been finished the lack of promised content and all around poor execution would still be present.
I love MGSV and the FOX engine, but it's a big heap of missed potential.