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Henry Single Shot Rifle in either .223 or .308. Comes out next month and its simply gorgeous.

Scanned from Henry's 2017 catalog
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>>33502345
>single shot gun that isnt a handgun
Why?
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>>33502345
Nice gun for $179

For $430, not so much.
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>>33502345
"these single-shot rifles are aimed at the challenge of hunting only one round on board" - and if you fail the challenge, wound the animal, and it scampers away in agony while you fumble for your next round? Then what?
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>>33502345
Not available in .357 magnum, fail.
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Mini 14 since I live in a cuck state
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>>33502345
>next
do you know where you are?
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>>33502345
i want to turn one of those hr12 gauges into a survival gun. shame they seemed to have dried up.
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>henry doing everything they can to avoid making a lever gun with a loading gate.
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>>33502404

You're the reason the market sucks dicks now.

>Made in USA
>quality components and materials
>handcut checkering
>comes with irons
>first guns to the market
>retail always lower than MSRP

Hurff durff single shot only gud if chep buy an AR
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>>33503140

>le tired old "nobody in /k/ owns a gun" MeeM

Stop projecting your own noguns
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>>33502427

"Quick second shot" meme needs to die in hunting. Whenever someone talks like an animal should fall right over after you've shot it, and that you should just wing bullets at it until it does, I know they don't have a clue what they're talking about.

Get close, slow down, pick your shot. Then wait. Unless it's a blatant gut shot and you somehow still have a good angle, you probably shouldn't be firing a second time.
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I'd like a brass one in .308 but I imagine chamber pressure prevents that. Probably gonna pick up the steel one sometime. I really do like single shot rifles.
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>>33502345

Honestly this might be my next rifle, I want a handy little gun in .243 for coastal blacktail and the occasional predator hunting.

I want a nicer scattergat than my mossman though. Thinking hard about a Turkish O/U for an upland gun.
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Most of the tards on /k/ want full auto, or whatever resembles what they use in video games.

An extremely accurate single shot rifle is something that the /k/inderkommandos wouldn't even understand.

In the hands of an expert marksman, a fine tuned single shot is far more deadly that a 100 monkeys firing M2s with unlimited ammo.

There's a zen aspect to marksmanship that most of the retards here will never understand.
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>>33503844
what a moran. get a brain.
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>>33503873
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Actually looking to make my first firearms purchase ever, a PS90. I've always had a boner for bullpups and this thing looks sexy as hell.
I'm super excited.
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>>33503844
shut up nerd
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>>33503250
>>33503440

Henry has you brahs covered too!
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Either a makarov, wasr, or working on either my retro ar build or long range bolt gun build

Not sure which to do first.
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Upper for my featureless CA legal AR15, identical to the picture. Already have the lower. Looking at getting a Rock River 16" mid length upper/barrel assembly, MI rail and Spikes Dynacomp muzzle break with some magpul buis
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>>33504168
You'll have them all eventually. Just pick the one that takes the most wrinkles out of your weiner.
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>>33502961
Old Mini's are pretty A E S T H E T I C. Make sure to get an Accu-Strut
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>>33504168
What kind of build?
>>33504456
I have that stock and it's the best stock for a cucked state ar 15
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Bulgarian Makaroni or a 5" 1911 variant.

I'm leaning more towards Rock Island or Springfield, but I hear SA manufactures the guns in Brazil rather than have everything made in the US. Also, I'm a sucker for minimalism, so I hate seeing huge logos and rollmarks stamped into the slide of a gun like that.

Might just shell out a few hundred more and get a 70 series Pony.
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>>33502345
>Single Shot Rifle

you're gonna use that thing two times before you realize that the only thing it has going for it is that it looks cool.
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Im looking at getting a few different guns but im not sure which.
>Aussie No.1 MkIII with a Mag Cut off
>Two Spanish Mauser 98 (One an M43, the other an M44)
>Colombian Mauser in .30-06
>Winchester Diamond Trap 1897
>Saving my tax return for a month and getting an LRB M14
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>>33504987
"Imma buy a single shot rifle"
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE NOT USEFUL FOR TACTOCAL REASONS! NO FUN ALLOWED REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>33504987
>you're gonna use that thing two times before you realize that the only thing it has going for it is that it looks cool.
I enjoy the single shot .410 I've had for 20 years plenty. Certainly enjoy walking around with it more than I would something maqazine-fed, especially a semi-auto.
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>>33504148

tard who got his firearms knowledge from vidya spotted
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>>33505088
>implying firearms knowledge from /k/ is better
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>>33503844

Stay off my side.
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>>33504987

Nonwoodsing rangefag detected

I want a gun that I can hunt small deer and coyotes with. I want it to be light, affordable, accurate, made of quality materials, and aesthetic. This in .243 would be perfect.
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>>33502345
I'm still waiting on Henry to put out their HLR in 7mm-08 or 25-06.
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>>33504165
do i want to chop to 18.5 hmm...
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>>33502345
>45-70
Okay, this is going to be my offering to Elmer Keith. There's going to be shit shout out of this that will make my shoulder wish for death, if I come out the otherside breathing I will have touched Keith's wizened hand and he will whisper 'put another grain of powder in it, you fucking pussy' and I will oblige.
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>>33502358
>>33502345
i have to agree, for what purpose? unless you are teaching a kid how to hunt i dont see a real advantage. then again the other day at the range some old dude was putting hole touching groups at 100yds with a single shot ruger
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>>33503844
>MUH expert
Dude, there are this of us who like taking the shit off a fleas ass at 1600 yards.
You don't have to have a single shot break action to do it.

Anything that's single shot is either historical (not very accurate usually, though with some exceptions) or boring (so why the fuck bother when a bolt action is just as accurate and has more capacity)
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College poorfag here. Thinking about buying this and building off of it as my first AR. Current collection is a Ruger 10/22 I got for my birthday 10 years ago and an Izhevsk 91/30 I bought from a friend.
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>>33502345
Too heavy and expensive for my tastes. Synth stock and shorter barrel would easily take it under 6 pounds.
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>>33504930
It will be a new production one, but I want to make mine look like pic related.
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>>33505903
you can save yourself a bit of cash for a shootable rifle of comparable quality with an aero precision midlength AR. it doesn't have the BCM stuff on it, so if you plan on changing them out anyway, this might be a better starter gun.

http://www.brownells.com/firearms/rifles/semi-auto/ac-15-5-56x45mm-nato-16-mid-length-rifle-prod82606.aspx
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>>33506027
I've built rifles with my dad before so now I'm a sucker for BCM stuff and it's got Muh KeyMod.
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>>33506068
Keymod is old news. The future is M-loc and anyone stupid enough to hold onto that deserves to be ridiculed when they slink to M-loc with thier tail between thier legs
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A cheap revolver. Maybe in .38 Special.

I saw a decent looking revolver for $300...but it was a Taurus Model 85. There was also a Ruger LCR in .22LR for $139.

>>33504973
I got a Bulgarian Makarov a month ago. Love, love, love it.
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>>33505817
>>33505945

Because it's going to be <$400 retail, while being a well fitted, well finished rifle made out of steel/wood in America. Heirloom quality for the price of an Axis. Considering that it's intended as a hunting rifle, you don't give up much.
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>>33506212
Didn't mean to respond to >>33505945
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>>33506212
Yeah, I don't understand why people mourn the death of american manufactuing and craftmanship when you have something like this and people say 'Well I could buy another poly shotgun for this'

Christ, I get if you are a broke student and you dont even have a CC or even an HD but this is a nice gun.
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Either a cheap fuck-around shotgun or black powder revolver. Can't decide which. Leaning towards BP for AZ cowboy reasons
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I want to buy a Henry rifle just because of their ad I saw on forgotten weapons
>Tiny truck drives up
>Beep beep
Tiny truck a cute.
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How much is Henry paying you shills? No one who is actually a /k/ regular would care about a fudd product like this.
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>>33506655
I'd bet you've been on this board less than a year
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I'm between a .357 lever rifle, a 9mm carbine, or yet another <$400 semi-obscure wonder 9 from the 80s-90s.

I can't stop buying 80s-90s wonder 9s.
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>>33503339
don't hate on the poorfags
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>>33506854
I'm a poorfag and have more practical things to spend money on now but at least I can fucking see why this is a nice thing to have and how the price is reasonable enough.
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In .44 mag

>ohfuckyesnigger
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>>33506885
.45-70 is more bigger and therefore better
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>>33506655
Been here for a decade my dude.

Sorry you don't like classy firearms, I guess. One of these days you too will get bored with banging away at paper with the plastic 4moa burp gun of the month.
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>>33502345
>non ejecting

dropped
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I'm looking really hard at Mk. IV Martini Henry rifles. Dunno about the quality of the current crop available via milsurp stores though. Unless I could get my hands on a Greener.
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>>33502345
>breaking new ground
>single shot rifle
>non-ejecting
>$400+
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>>33502961
Would look less retarded if it didn't have all that barrel sticking out of the stock. Either short barrel or longer stock, being that they were going for a light rifle, shorter barrel.

And yes, I do know it would then be an SBR.
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>>33503339
>first guns to the market

So are we forgetting about all the others when this single shot rifle fad burned out in the 60s?

Oh, those were all made before you were born.
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>>33506887

I love 45-70s, but i have 2000+ .44 magnums on the shelf.
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>>33502345
fud tier
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>>33506996
whats yoru general purpose 44. mag load? 240 g? fmjs? sjsp?
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>>33506903
This, single shot rifles with no ejector are shit tier. Especially for a hunting rifle where you could need a fast follow up.
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>>33507059
>henry
>no loading gates
>no ejectors

cmon henry.
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>>33507035

Depends on what gun im using, usually just 240 jsp
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>>33502345
.22lr/20g over under. One of those breakdown ones, like a 24C or something.

I thought about getting a .223/12g, but I feel like I would get more use out of the .22.

.223 feels kind of redundant because anything you could shoot with that you could do in with a 12g slug just as well.

Also thinking about some kind of takedown 12g instead, like a Winny Model 12 or something, with the barrel cut back to 20" maybe. A good woods gun.
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I can see why the lack of an ejector would be nice if you are handloading cartridges, but I can't imaging there's a whole lot of demand for handloading .223 and .308.
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>>33507098

There is a lot of handloading for 308s but 223s not really.
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>>33507146

This is the most retarded thing I've read so far today
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>>33507098
You are literally retarded. I hope you are nowhere near a firearm in your life.
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>>33507159
>>33507225
To be fair most AR fags will just dump steel case at a 6 inch target and call it a day so he might just not know
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>>33507159

Good thing its only 4 am kek. Ive never known anyone to reload 223s but I know a shitload of folks that reload 308s.

Then again I dont know poor people that cant afford good factory 223
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>>33502345
Ruger LC9s in 9mm. I'm planning on giving my CZ to my brother soon and I need a new carry piece.
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>>33507234
I didn't say the demand for handloading those rounds was non-existent, just that the percentage of the market was much smaller than other, fuddier calibers.
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>>33507235
> I've never known anyone to reload .223s

I suspect you do and just don't know it. Hi power match shooters and guys that hunt hogs/southern whitetail reload all the time here.
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>>33506081
Geez dude sorry for not conforming to what you like. Not everyone can be as Opur8er as you. Pic related.
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>>33502427
I have never taken a second shot hunting deer ever. Even with a clean shot, the deer might run away for a bit, but it'll die within a few minutes. you think bow and crossbow hunter take follow up shots?
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>>33502345
I might get one of these. I've been looking for something cheap in .556 with irons that I can plink with. I wanted a bolt gun but those don't seem to exist and mini14s aren't exactly cheap.
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>>33507235
>You have to be poor to reload

Holy shit you are even dumber than I originally thought.

What are competitive or precision shooters and hunters
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>>33502345
These seem kind of neat, but I wouldn't buy it at the price Henry is likely asking.

What would be really cool is pistol versions of these single shot guns. Imagine the buttstock is cut down so just the rounded pistol grip is left, and the barrel is shortened to maybe 8 inches. I think that gun would be a ton of fun, at least in smaller calibers like .243, 5.56, .22lr and maybe .44 Mag
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Currently deciding between a Mossberg 500 and a Browning BPS. The Mossberg is about $425 and comes with both a 28 and 18.5 inch barrel, and the Browning is about $550, only comes with a 20 inch barrel, but is a steal compared to what they usually go for. The Browning would also be good for introducing my lefty friends to shooting.
Any advice?
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>>33507458
It's ok, it's jus the new meme going on. I think the army or marines are adopting m-lol
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>>33508348
>hunting
>.223
Don't want to blow the deer in half with your AR, even though the round was only designed to wound chinks in some jungle.
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Thinking of the savage 42. Just something to keep in the truck and pretend to feel like a manly man.
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>>33509181
>what are coyotes, praire dogs and hogs

Boy you just manage to keep getting dumber
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>>33509237
>the joke
>your head
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>"New single shot rifle from Henry Repeating Arms".
>Single-shot rifle
>Repeating Arms

Oh, the irony.
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>>33506655
>he thinks wood = fudd
git
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>>33505732
That's what I want to do to a H&R Pardner 12ga I picked up for $50 a couple years ago from a LGS parking lot sale.

Then maybe spray paint the whole thing coyote tan or black.
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>>33510377
>Then maybe spray paint the whole thing coyote tan or black.
Why.
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My next purchase is going to be an Arsenal SLR-104ur that I want to SBR eventually and make into a Krink clone. Hopefully have the gun by the end of the summer and all the parts needed for clone as well as my paper work.
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>>33510377
Go for it
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>>33510377
Why not chrome like a real OG?
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>>33503339
its a really shitty market when
>comes with irons
is a selling point instead of a default
i know a bunch of hunting boltactions lack irons but those have rails to mount a scope with

its like a motel advertising color tvs
a no shit your tv has color now you fuck
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>>33509351

>He actually took the bait. All of it.
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Fuck, I want it in 4 out of 5 of the offered calibers
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>>33502345
Either a fairly expensive suppressor, or more milsurp.
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>>33510377
Make it of your own design.

>>33511052
Because there are better colors (pic related).
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Posting in a good bread.
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>>33512171
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>>33510974

Nice kill. How was the cat jerky?
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>>33512171
Now that's a good looking firearm! Is the long gun a rifle or a shotgun?

Something really appealing about modern single shots and bolt guns with iron sights. A Hog Hunter might be in my future.
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>>33513432
They're both in .357 mag
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>>33506950
I should have been more clear - it's their first run of this rifle. The price will come down. This happens with every firearm.

>MSRP $430, bretty high
>Ends up retailing for $379
>Start showing up used for $300
>Henry enjoys a decent volume of sale and they start retailing for $330
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Eh, I prefer Ruger's falling block action over a break action for single fire rifles.
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>>33507059
Fast followup is a fucking meme for most deer hunting. It's neither here nor there for me, an ejector would be nice, but so is having your brass right there to be pocketed.

>>33507618
This

Last thing you should do when an animal has been hit is fire again while it's moving, or try to pursue.
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>>33510377

>take nice hunting gun
>CHOP OFF THE CHOKE AND CERAKOTE IT!!!

And then you won't use it for shit.
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>>33513551

I do too, but they cost a lot to make comparatively.

>$600 falling block when??
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>>33504165
>somethingsfucky.tar.gz
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>>33512907
Tasted like salty milk and coins.
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>>33513620
Yeah, $1k+ seems pretty steep for what they are.
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>>33503339
henry isn't exactly known for match accuracy. a single shot break action using the same "risk of opening when fired" used in a $200 H&R handi rifle that shoots 2moa isn't going to be a hot seller.

you can get a fucking exquisite rolling block, falling block, or sharps made by pedersoli for mad fucking shekels (2-5k) if you want a hand made hand fitted semi custom historically correct smokeless single shot rifle.
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>>33513633
One is the hammer, the other is the break open release.

What's the issue.
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>>33513680
One sits markedly higher on one model.
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>>33505903
>>33506027
>>33506068
>>33506081
Just get a Palmetto State Armory Premium Complete Upper Reciever and get one of their complete lower receivers and you can get a great rifle for the price.
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>>33513698
Slightly different receiver dimensions because different stock styles.
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>>33506212
And I fairly frequently find savage axises for >$400 as well.

If you're a poorfag then heirlooms are the last thing you need to buy.
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>>33513855
It's obviously not installed correctly you mong.
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>>33513855
They're the exact same except for the finish bruh.
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>>33513633
Probably just an early pre-production model held together with bubblegum they needed to photograph for the catalog.
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>>33513678
Or the Ruger No 1
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>>33514056
exactly

anyone who is going to go
>The man with a single shot rifle, stalking his game skillfully, thoughtfully calculating his range, not just shooting at his quarry but selecting the most effective shot to place that bullet, then carefully aiming and making that one shot count — that man surely is more of a hunter than is the fellow having half a dozen shots available in his repeater.
isn't going to look for a brass coated zamax frame $90 break action shotgun scaled down to .45-70 for the low low price of ~300 dollarydoos. They're going to search high and low for a ruger no1 international or get an 1885 highwall
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>>33505184
Honestly I'd like one in 7mm-08 better than a 243
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>>33513898
What if you're not a poorfag?
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>>33513898

So the Axis is a better deal despite being a cheap piece of shit? I mean, yeah, it works. So do hi-points. Frankly, they're on par for materials and quality.

You don't need a box mag to hunt. We wiped out the bison with black powder single shots. Tons of hunters go in the field every year with muzzleloaders, and aren't really hurting because of it at nominal ranges. "Quick second shots" are a meme in deer hunting. Most big game hunting, in fact.

So,
>gets the job done and pretty nice

Or
>gets the job done and I kinda fucking hate this thing and I'm going to buy a better gun for the same role as soon as I can
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>>33514289

You're acting like anyone that would want a single shot for hunting is a rich fedora though.

I already have a great 5+1rd bolt action .30-06. I'd like a .243 for small coastal deer. I'd be happy with a bolt, lever, semi, or single, but I'm still on a budget and would like something that's still well made - the reality is that whatever rifle I use, a successful hunt means I only take one shot.
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>>33514871
>You're acting like anyone that would want a single shot for hunting is a rich fedora though.
when a savage axis or hog hunter costs less and is more capable in a wider range of more suitable calibers, the only person who would want a single shot is a fedora or massive turbo poorfag who was already priced out of the market on a new $300 handi rifle.

a noname turkshit single shot shotgun can be had for $150 but you don't have to be a fedora to understand the utility and precision of a real quality single shot like a ruger no1, sharps, springfield, or remington falling block.
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>>33514979

The handi rifle is no longer made anon.

>when a savage axis or hog hunter costs less and is more capable in a wider range of more suitable calibers

Savage offers more calibers, but that's irrelevant if you want a .223, .243, .308 etc.

The point is, this gun will be well made. The stock will be American walnut, it will have cut checkering, and the fit and finish will probably be excellent, like most Henry rifles.

You cannot say the same for the Axis. It will absolutely shoot straight, but it looks, feels and handles like shit, and you'll be looking to upgrade pretty much as soon as you get it. People that want a bolt action are better off saving another $200 and getting a 110. I saved up considerably more than that, and bought a new Model 70. No regrets.

When it comes down to deer hunting, it really doesn't matter whether or not you have 1 or 5 rounds. A single shot like this isn't a do all rifle, but if you want a *nice* gun in a new caliber then it fills that niche. All of this hinges of course on it's accuracy, so I'll be waiting for good reviews to come out before I buy.
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>>33515328
>The handi rifle is no longer made anon.
because anyone who'd want one can find a used one for $90 in a pawn shop and it will kill a deer as well at 50 yards as a ~$350 henry clone of such
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>>33515598

They aren't that cheap where I live anymore. When I see them for sale, they're often in the $350 range, and unfortunately they're moving at that price point.
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So, how good would this rifle be for working on my precision/long distance marksmanship?
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I'm trying to decide between a M16A1 parts kit and lower or a martini-henry. Its a battle between putting 5 inch exit wound's in targets or that sexy "it ain't me" asethic
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Why not get a Biakal Russian-made rifle instead?

Seem to be cheaper and just as well made. My Biakal MP18 12g was a mere 100 dollars and is solid steel and operates smoothly. i'd buy one in .223 in a heartbeat.
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>>33515328
>The point is, this gun will be well made. The stock will be American walnut, it will have cut checkering, and the fit and finish will probably be excellent, like most Henry rifles.
The thing is, being poor is a mentality, and it's one that's hard to get out of. Poorfags focus only on functionality and don't really quite grok the concept of spending a few bucks more to get something that has better aesthetics, or nicer fit and finish, or something that will last for years and you can give to your son someday. Yes, some ugly-ass gun that rolled off an assembly line in Chengdu and will be a pile of rust in twenty years will blast a deer or a dindu as well as this Henry will, so if they can find one for $90 bucks in a sleazy pawn shop, then that's what poorfags will go for, because that's their mentality.

I like this board, but it's infested with 20-something poorfags who can't get out of that mentality.
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>>33516445

Because fuck Russia, and
>just as well made
You and I may have a different definition of "well made." At that point I really would just buy an axis.
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>>33516488

What's funny is that I AM a 20something poorfag. When I bought my first hunting rifle I was making $15/hr and living on my own. I cut all my extraneous expenses, put in a bunch of overtime and bought a gun that I knew I'd never want to replace. A few years later I'm even more broke - I'm in university so I don't make $15/hr forever - but when I look at my gun rack I've got a few quality firearms that cover my bases. If I'm too poor to buy a nice gun, I'm way, way too poor to buy throwaway junk.
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>>33516774
This all confirms for me that you won't still be poor when you're 40.
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>>33516427
A bolt action would likely serve you better by letting you keep cheek weld and sight picture while chambering a new round.
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>>33502358
Strong, accurate actions?
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>>33508284
CZ 527 carbine
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>>33502358

To fill the niche the H&R Handi-Rifle left when they dropped production a few years back.
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>>33516723
>Because fuck Russia
Fuck you.
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>>33513678
pedersoli quality control is meh
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Cool gun, if it is 2 MOA or better then I think it's a great value for deer hunting. For $400 I'd rather have a well built, American made single shot rifle than some plastic bolt gun that practically rattles apart every time you work the action.

Weird to leave out an ejector, but whatever.
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>>33508992
I went through the same decision 3 months ago. I went with the Mossberg 500 but I would've gone with the Browning if it was a bit cheaper at the time. The magazine size and not having an 18.5inch barrel was a deterrent for me then but, now having shot my Mossberg, I realize the lower capacity and 20inch barrel wouldn't bother me.
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>>33519228
>Made in America, or not made at all

:^)
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>>33515809
>buying one of the shittiest rifles ever made for more than MSRP
>it's a collectors item now t. fudd
this is exactly why singleshots are for fedoras

also for every idiot trying to sell a bone stock handi rifle for north of 300 there is someone selling grandpas tricked out one for 200. and neither is worth the price because of "will open when fired" inherent action flaw and being inaccurate shit that weighs more than a savage axis or remington 700.

>they stopped making them
the particle board stock version
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Rock Island GI Model .45 or tactical/modern model (no rail)? First 1911 and likely last, I'm not much of a 1911 guy, I just want something to suppress and make waifu grips for.
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>>33519399
Thanks, It's worth taking that into consideration.
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>>33520403

Where did I say I was buying a handi rifle? I don't own or want one. I may pick up one of the Henry singles though, depending on reviews. They look to be much better made.

You sure seem salty about single shots. Cheapshit bolt guns have their place - if you need something that spits .223 and you don't enjoy nice things, go for it. If you want even a little pride of ownership, nice handling qualities, fit & finish etc, they suck balls. And frankly most of them aren't that accurate in bigger calibers, the stocks are wet noodles that should be replaced if you want them to really shoot.

It comes back to the same thing - Axis has a magazine, works well, but is a tacky POS. Henry will be well made and aesthetic and also work fine. Their performance as deer rifles relative to eachother will undoubtedly be a wash.

I already have nice, multipurpose bolt guns, semi's, levers, etc. If I'm just looking to get a specific caliber for little money I'd rather buy something with a stock that doesn't deform in my hand when I shoulder it.
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>>33520450
Modern. GI variants lack a lot of little improvements youd appreciate like beavertail, good sights, slightly altered ejection port and maybe some other stuff im forgetting.
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