/k/ is the mosin nagant THAT good?

>>33501267

I think the general consensus is that, while it isn't the best rifle of the war, it was pretty good considering how quickly they pumped them out.

I just picked one up today, and I'm excited to take it out to the range.

Fuck no. It's a literal meme gun that is only popular because it was cheap for a long long time. Now that the price has risen there is no reason to own one over a mauser at similar cost.

nagant is a fucking terrible design compared to contemporary bolt actions. Id take any mauser or enfield over that pos any day of the week.

>>33501267
It was cheap as fuck and even an alcoholic illiterate peasant could use it while subsisting on a diet of pickles and vodka. That's what made it so good.

>>33501295
>doesn't own any surp
>somehow expert

>>33501294
Quantity is a quality of its own, Anon.

>>33501295

you know what they say about assumptions anon

>>33501267
It's a garbage rod, but it's my garbage rod.

>>33501267
Not the best, but pretty good.

How does the Chinese Type 53 compare to Russian-made Mosins?

>>33501520
Like any chinese copy.

It's not worth $200+

They're not as shitty or as amazing as people say. 4chan is simply counter culture and when the majority of /k/ loved them, more started to act out in the counter culture thing and hate it. The mosin nagant is simply a bolt action rifle. It works, they're fairly accurate depending on the bore, they're just about indestructible, and they are neat to learn about and collect.

>>33501267
I love mine. I shoot it more frequently than my Yugo M48.

Of course, the availability of good ammo helps.

>>33501267
It's a mediocre rifle at best, a spear at worst. In 2007+10 year prices it is not worth the money when better surplus rifles can be had for roughly the same price. I've owned 3 Mosins, 2 K98 pattern rifles, an SKS, a Lee-Enfield No.4 mk.1, and a Steyr M95 Carbine, and am looking at an M1917 to be the next rifle. Honestly, Mosins vary from totally usable to garbage. Triggers tend to be rather rough, bolts get much tougher to use once the gun becomes hot and dirty, and the safety is literally unusable on the rifle. All that being said, when I first got into surplus guns I loved my Mosins. They were a gateway drug into better surplus guns.

>>33501267
Cheap, reliable, hard hitting, accurate enough to hunt with and any idiot can make it work. What more is the to say.

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>>33501801
Sounds about right.

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>>33501267
I like them

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Going to buy my first Nugget soon, I can't wait.

>>33501267
It was "good enough"
I know these opinions are a diamond dozen but, for all intensive purposes, that was good enough

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>>33501267
It's not a question of how good or bad the nugget is, it's more of a sentimental thing. Nuggets were the first big bore rifles owned by a LOT of /k/ommandos by nature of their low cost and decent quality. They're a serviceable, rugged, centerfire .30cal rifle that can be realistically used to hunt nearly anything in North America and for a while you could get a nice one for $50 to $100 if you were willing to spend some time checking rifles over for bore quality and bolt function. They were a real big bore rifle that a poor college kid or backwoods farmboy could afford to both buy and shoot regularly.

>>33501801
>>33501993
>implying you can hunt with a Nugget

nice meme, 7.62x54r is anemic as fuck

.308 and .30-06 are the only realistic choices for hunting

>>33501930
Thank you for posting that image. I really needed some good old Stalker feels right about now, mainly because of certain reasons i am not at liberty to discuss at the present moment

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>>33502012
I'm planning on making my own in this style when I get one.
sorry you feel this way

>>33501958
>diamond dozen
>intensive purposes

Please be bait, please be bait...

>>33502007
Do not listen to this sperglord, he clearly does not know what he is saying

>>33502007
wat? no love for the cartridge that fills my freezers every year.

30-30

disclaimer: I've only been durr hunting in Southside VA - longest shot in the past 12 seasons was 110 yards. Stalking, not tree standing.

94 Ranger
Average is ~85 yards
Dense shit pine woods
Only once needed a follow up shot
recoil? what recoil?
Confirmed leverfag

>>33502050
Ironing is lost on you, isn't it?

>>33501873
>smashed dust cover
still work right?

>>33501267

It was a rather decent cheap bolt-action gun that takes a big round that's relatively cheap. The problem is that due to inflation and surplus drying up, they're easily going for around $200+ now. You can buy a Mauser (Yugo, Turk, Czech, etc) for similar prices, and you can get surplus ammo (Turk, etc) for as low as 25 cents per round. If you can find a Mosin for cheap, there's absolutely no reason you shouldn't grab it. It's a fun gun for what it is.

>>33501267
It's solid. That is what is important.

>>33501756
>the safety is literally unusable on the rifle
Mosins have a safety?

>>33502761
Pull the bolt back and twist. If you cant do it with your pinky and ring finger you might as well sell all your guns.

>>33502007
Why? because thats what you would hunt with, if you actually hunted?

>>33502415
Great choice, filled plenty of freezers, probably will for another 100yrs

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I like mine because it is a WWII veteran that was later refurbished and is good as new. Solid performance and history is important.

I would like to convert it to a sniper version at some point but the appropriate optics are worth more than the gun.

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>>33501267
>/k/ is the mosin nagant THAT good?
It's pretty good for an action designed in 1891 and then never updated again. One thing I really like about Mosin-Nagant is that at heart they are all the same. You can take the bolt from an Albanian M91/30 made in 1961 and put it in the an M1891 infantry rifle from 1891 and it'll work the exact same way.

>Got a nugget for Christmas years ago from grandfather
>No one to shoot it with, all my friends ever wanna shoot is .22s
>Want to shoot it but not /k/ enough to go out on my own, closest range is a 30 minute drive

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>>33502007
Hornady 7.62x54R 150gr SST Steel 2800fps

>>33502903

What are you, a faggot? I drive an 60+ minutes to get to the range.

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>>33502903
GO! I'll be doing the same myself this summer.

Of course I also have a Snider-Enfield to shoot so I have incentive.

>>33501267
>/k/ is the mosin nagant THAT good?

It was a piece of shit when they made them, and it's an even bigger piece of shit in the 21st century.

Only a retard would buy one for more than $50 and shoot it without having a gunsmith check headspace and action.

I've noticed that fewer dipshits are posting about their "moist nuggets" these days; I assume that those faggots are wearing bolts and chunks of receiver in their foreheads that's interfering with what little cerebral cortex activity they had to begin with.

>>33502903
I drive 1 1/2 hrs each way and go at least twice a month. More when i can.Just get out and go.

What about the Finnish M39?

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I bought one when you could get a Hex with all the extras for $150. Here's how I explain the Mosin:

For $150, I absolutely love it.
For $200, it's just ok.
For $250, it's a real piece of shit.
For $300, I don't even know it exists.

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>>33501267

My AR15 is a fuckload more accurate but...

It would hurt me more to lose this. Mosina was my first. A kind and forgiving teacher in the ways of gun.

>>33503035
>I've noticed that fewer dipshits are posting about their "moist nuggets" these days;
Probably more like no one has any fucking milsurp ammo anymore (except for me fuck you all) and no one wants to buy commercial 54r.

>>33504061
what if you're an aspiring (but currently poorfag) milsurp collector? would the nugget be a good starting point then?

>>33504106
They're a good starting point. But as of now, you can get Roach, Yugo, or Czech Mausers for roughly the same cost.

If you want the cream of the crop nugget, you can start with a Finnish one. Classic has em for about $320 if I recall, which is decent considering those are basically Nugget Refined.

>>33503035
Why are you so salty? Did a mosin wielding slav rape you or something?

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>>33504106
Not for ~$300. There's other interesting milsurps you can get at that price point.

>>33504104
>and no one wants to buy commercial 54r

I buy commercial...

>>33501520
at the time of production they were probably equal quality with russian wartime production mosins. currently they tend to be in way worse shape cause the chinks gave zero fucks about trying to preserve them in storage or refurbishing them like the russians did.

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>>33504349
>I buy commercial...

Silver Bear is ridiculously pretty.

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>>33503035
Or you are mad they are actually solid rifles and can't comprehend that something so old is still so reliable.

PS: You are mad.

>>33504061
Must take you a lot longer to earn $150 than most for such a dramatic swing in thinking to happen for such a small amount of money.
Truth is, one day this thing will be a bargain at $1000. Hell, over time, $10000. It's a piece of history anon.

>>33501295
Well, 54r is still insanely cheaper than 8mm mauser.

>>33501267
No.

It just used to be $100 or less

>>33504540
Commercial 54r is also significantly more powerful than commercial 8mm.

>>33504458
>You are mad.

Your POS moist nugget is the very worst firearm that you'll ever own.

You should be mad, nigger. I'm just calling it as it is.

>>33504580
>Commercial 54r is also significantly more powerful than commercial 8mm.
Only in US SAAMI-spec loads.

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>>33504458
>something so old is still so reliable.

Google "Mosin-Nagant" and "Hunting" and see how many (bubba) fuddies are using it for durr and other animals.

I mean fuck, you want a cheap bear gun? Mosin. Seriously.

>>33504589
>I mean fuck, you want a cheap bear gun? Mosin. Seriously.
Edit: I should specify Black Bear and other smaller species. Big ones are beyond 54r's power level.

>>33504586
Sure, but most of us aren't in Europe, and most European 8x57 ammo is not available in the US.

S&B produces strong 8mm, but that's the only hot stuff I've ever seen. Online, or otherwise.

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>>33504611
What about 2x 54R?

>>33504671
>Mysterious double-nuggets

Seriously want to know if this was ever a thing cuz WTF.

>>33504589
I had no idea so many people used Mosins for hunting

>>33504701
Probably not, the artist was a nut.
http://englishrussia.com/2010/10/11/weird-pictures-of-a-weird-artist/

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>>33504723
Really?

>>33504655
Anything labeled as "8x57IS" or "8x57JS" rather than "8mm Mauser" will be proper full-power loads.

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>>33502012
It gets better anon, it gets better

>>33501267
They're not really good at all, even in comparison to their chronological peers. But you used to be able to buy them for $98 plus tax at Big 5 and a spam can of 7.62 on the internet for even less than that. They're also C&R and legal in every state. That's why they're popular.

>>33501267
reliable, cheap ammo,inexpensive gun. another one to add to the family

>>33501295
your missing the point completely, off yourself with that mouser

>>33501520

Also the most notable difference: Chinese Type 53 is copy of Soviet m/44 carbine, while the massive majority of Soviet-made Mosin-Nagants available now are refurbed m/91-30 rifles. While refurbed m/91-30 can be rather shitty quality-wise (compared to non-refurbed pre WW2 produced Soviet rifles or Finnish rifles or just about any other M-N) it is a rifle instead of carbine - longer, less recoil, easier to shoot accurately due to longer sight radius and far less likely to produce massive muzzle flash.

>>33501267
it's the miata of the gun world

>>33504221
>Implying Mosins are less interesting.
They're highly collectible, 2nd it to Mausers and that's because there are so many variants of Mauser to collect.

>>33502535
Irony is for people who are inclined to celebrate stupidity.

>>33501295
Yes , Mausers and Enfields are superiour , yes there are junky built or wrecked Mosins that are not good at all.

But to say that you could not choose to buy a Mosin as a project gun to build into a hunting rifle is unfair.

You don't have to like the Mosin Nagant , but whilst they are still cheap enough and the ammo is cheap enough ,they make for a good entry level military surplus shooter.

Accurate enough , powerful enough , cheap enough.

>>33501267
It's good for how cheap it is. That's literally the only reason people like it.

>>33502007
7.62X54r is anemic ?
I hunt deer, kangaroo , wild pigs and foxes with it.

I reload my own , and it takes slightly more powder than .308 load and uses the same fucking projectiles as .308 , what are you smoking anon ?

135 grain hollow points
180 grain soft points

>>33505927
cramped , reliable , over priced and a joke ?

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>>33506784
Muh carbine

>>33506784
7.62x54R isn't meant to use .308 diameter projectiles, it's designed for .312

>>33506865
they work and accurately in both of my mosins.

>>33506865
0.04 of an inch is 1.016mm , I learned something today.

well I am going to get some "legit" Mosin food and see what the difference is by measuring it.

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>>33502535

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>>33502007
Bait.

>>33502840
RIFLE
IS
FINE

>>33507435
It's amazing how much emotion you can put into a painting.

>>33504516
Plain fact is that every person interested in target shooting/hunting and likes military history should own one, even for a while. Complaining that "they used to be $50, boo hoo." is the same as guys bitching about how cheap Krags, Springfields, Enfields. Mausers , etc were. They are only going to go up in price so grab one now.

>>33502007
i've shot a damn bull moose with it

>>33504878
Oh yeh, Dugans coming back. Maybe.

>>33506805
>reliable

>rotary engine

pick one.

>>33511043
You can always rely on your rotary engine... to be in the shop.

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>>33501267
It's 10000% better than the gun you don't have

>>33505762

This.

>>33511043
miatas don't and have never had rotary engines
that's the RX7, RX8, and a few other older things

>>33501267
No, just good enough. Like all Russian inventions.

>>33511406
a 19th century relic , that is still dangerous.
a step up from the Lebel , but not as good as a Mauser or Enfield.

But with prices rising , I would suggest to invest in a Mauser or Enfield , I own three Mosins in good condition.

>>33501267
On the pure merits of a gun with so sociological influence.

It's the worst bolt action of Ww2 and probably before . there where guns that where smoother, simpler, and everything else.

With sociological influence. It's a toyota corolla of bolt actions. It's cheap reliable and cheap to feed and fix. Mauser and Enfields even arisakas are better. But they're expensive to feed or get or whatever else.

It's slowly becoming not worth it, just like the corrola as it's price rises. It used to cost 30 cents/r for surplus, now it's 50. However it lives on because of the meme from before, and won't be dying soon.

If you want an ok gun for pretty cheap to shoot, buy a Mosin. Or save up and buy a savage axis.

"...and he that hath no Mosin, let him sell his garment, and buy one."

- Book of Sergei 22:36

>>33511433
No need comrade , carry bullets and wait for comrade in front to die and pick up rifle.

>>33502840

your rifle assembled after refurb is not a ww2 veteran, its a sit in a crate for 60 years veteran.

>>33511429
>cheap to feed

>>33511429
Yes , if we are going to compare functionality and price of the Mosin to other war relics or new bolt actions , then yes , get a nicer Mauser or Enfield or even a Mossberg or Savage.

But if you want the rifle for collection or project purposes , then it is fine.

I have paid $1200 Au for a Tula Sniper , because I like the platform and I am going to use it to knock down kangaroos.

>>33511512
Brother you don't have to tell me the joys of milsurp. Most of my guns are milsurp.

But
>1200 for a Mosin
Abu Hajaar wtf? Mosin snipers are like 900 at most around here.

>>33511534
not in Australia for $900 for a 91/30 PU Sniper in good condition with an excellent bore.

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>>33501267
I mean for 350 my mosin shoots pretty good.

>>33511429
>even arisakas
This how we know that your thoughts on the matter are to be ignored.

>>33511534
I understand even Lee Enfields are around a grand in Australia.

>>33511687
yeah for a decent one you are looking at about $800Au+ , but you can still get ok ones for about $500ish , but for a really nice one you can pay upwards of $2000 and some times ridiculous $4000

where would I get the cheapest SKS possible

>>33511742
Canada.

>>33511751
but i am a burger

>>33511762

You asked for an answer and they gave you an accurate one.

>>33511742
I've seen plenty of tapco'd norincos in pawn shops for $300, otherwise I see plenty of original norincos for 350 on armslist.

They are a solid rifle for $200

once you start getting into the $500 they aren't worth it unless they have exceptional quality

>>33511687
You are correct, in a sense. A good Lithgow will run you that much. I picked up a No4 for 450, a 116 year old M95 Spanish Mauser carbine in good condition for 600 and an M44 in good condition for 450. It's all about where you buy. Clairemont Firearms in Perth are good for milsurp.

>>33511879
Claremont Firearms , at their old shop in Bibra Lake is where I bought all three of my Mosins.

I am going to buy a couple of Mausers from Rebel Gun Works in QLD

>>33511905
I'm gonna get a K98 and a late model Springfield (rip my wallet) soon. Ammo for both is getting pricey though. But with multiple hunters in my family sharing a .300WinMag and a .270 and a milsurp it got old lugging the M44 or Enfield. Figure the K98 will be a better deergat. Might be wrong though. I just love milsurp.

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What do these hundreds of markings on my nugget mean?

>>33511946
It means gitgud and Google it.

>>33511936
I was going to get a K98 from Claremont , but they ran out of Oberndorf Mausers.

I haven't seen a lot of ammo for 7.92X57mm for the K98 other than FMJ and soft tip stuff , know of any hollow point sources in Ausland ?

>>33511965
I don't really even know where to get ammo for them. I assume Frank O'Reillys in Thornbury would stock some. I buy all my 7.62x54R from Centerway Firearms in Keilor Park cause they give me a discount (works out to like $25 a box or better, buy like 10 boxes at once).

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>>33511950
it has every marking

>>33511984
Then you probably need to ask an expert on Facebook. And by expert I mean shitpost in Mosin Modders for a laugh.

>>33511981
I get PPU Brass for my Mosin by the hundreds and the pay a little over a dollar to get them hand loaded with 180 grain soft tip spitzers or round nose and some 135 grain explosive hollow points.

Not having hunted deer before ,I assume that soft tip stuff would work on them similar to knocking down roos ?

>>33511984
well its an Izhevsk , we can tell that from the arrow in the triangle and that it is obviously a 1941 build.

>>33512026
Yep. Mosin soft tips drop deer very well, but after that first shot you may as well go back to camp cause everything has just run off. It's effective, but there are better rounds out there.

>>33512036
yes , this is what I have been told about hunting deer , I often see Sambar out at my dads farm when I am trying to knock down rabbits or foxes . but I only see the deer for a short period , as soon as they know Im there , they are gone very fast.

>>33512059
Yeah. You're better off with a R700 budget build or something similar. Savage Axis is okay. Scope it up with some good glass, a bipod, some coffee and wait in a nice location (with some height and good sightlines). I'm a bit if lazy hunter, so it's by no means the best way to hunt haha.

>>33512092
I'm a casual pest hunter , I hunt rabbits & foxes at my dads farm , I also legally (paper work and all) shoot roos for a farmer mate of mine out at his place.

I do a bit of walking with the rifle and knock down whatever I can , then go home.

So even if I don't get to kill anything , I'm getting a bit of exercise in.

>>33512129
Yeah the exercise is good. I've been going on my own a lot as my cousin is busy with his other half and my dad just got back from a long stint in the Middle East as an electrical consultant. I got lazy as I had nobody to stalk with, and I mostly went out to blast milsurp or the range with some noguns friends. I do love my bunny blasting though. Wish I could do Roos.

>>33512151
Roos are cunts out our way , eat the fucken crops , destroy fences and just make a fucken nuisance of themselves on the roads.

Why are the PUs so goddamn expensive?

>>33501295
Finn mosins are objectively better than a mauser or enfield of similar price.

>>33511751

>Wanting a 5 round sks, not buying a AK for $600

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>>33502007
>literally has longer case length than 7.62x51
>anemic

>>33502007

7.62x54 is a larger round then 7.62x51

>>33512177
If I was an American , I would be buying a Zastava N-PAP as a fun gun.

I'd really like to be able to go back to pre-1996 days and buy a Springfield M1A off a rack at a sports store or Fishing & Hunting Shop.

>>33512187
>literally has longer case length than 7.62x51

and yet it's much weaker

Slavs BTFO

>>33512228
Bitches don't know about my modern projectiles and powders into custom hand loads.

>>33501993
About as dumb (awesome) sword chucks

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I've had a Mosin for well over a year now, and go out to the weekends to shoot it when I can. Got it at a local gun store for ~$150. It's in pretty great shape with a bayonet.
I wouldn't say it's the best rifle, ever. But if you buy one in good shape like I did, it's fun, cheap, and reliable I'd use it to hunt, but I mostly have FMJ rounds (can't hunt with those legally).
The bore on my rifle is pretty much pristine, along with the sights. The bolt slides beautifully. I can hit a tin can at 300 - 400 meters pretty easily.

One of my favourite buys of the past couple years.

>I've got the original papers for it, apparently it's killed more than a couple Nazis, so that's a plus

>>33511670
Arisakas are better than mosin. Only the late war shit is bad.

Drown in your slav tears trip fag.

>>33512564
Also, I want to add that a good test you can perform pretty easily to check the quality of your bore is to put a bullet down the exit of the barrel.
If the bullet slides down to the edge of the casing, then the bore's blown. If you can still seen some lead, then you're good.

Another thing, when it comes to ammo is to make sure you know if you're getting corrisive, semi-corrosive, or non-corrosive. Non-corrosive is the standards if you're gonna buy new ammo, but if you're using surplus then find out if it's corrosive.
I've fired corrosive and it's fine, you just have to clean the bore and the bolt a lot harder, and preferably with specialised cleaners for corrosive rounds.

>>33512706
Except that wasn't my statement chief. The phrase "even Arisakas" implies that Arisakas are worse than a Mauser or Enfield. And they aren't. They're miles ahead of either. So when someone mentions a Arisaka as being less than a Enfield or Mauser (especially a German Mauser) they show their own ignorance and lack of experience.

>>33512564
>>I've got the original papers for it, apparently it's killed more than a couple Nazis, so that's a plus
Nice

>>33512964
Oh I didn't mean to imply that.

I personally prefer the Enfield overall, and the Mauser action is lovely, though I don't own one. Arisakas are really nice, and I love thier simplicity. I've seen my buddies, he has a 100 year old example as well.

I don't really wanna argue which action is the best, I just wanna say the mosin is the worst.

>>33501267
no, it's THAT cheap

otherwise it's just a mediocre bolt action rifle

>>33513380
And I'm saying your wrong. I'm bored and at work for another hour and have nothing better to do, aside from masturbate under my desk. Mosin is better than the Carcano, the M95, and any 1st Generation smokeless bolt action aside from the 93 series of Mausers.

>>33501520
The wood and metal on mine are worn pretty well. The metal workmanship is definitely better than a wartime Russian 91/30, M44, etc. It functions 100% though. Best $99 bucks ever.

>>33502903
My nigga, I used to drive an hour to get to a quiet secluded outdoor range. Its awesome meditation time.

>buy cheap ass gun
>cant afford anything else to compare it with
>praise it as the best gun ever

>>33512564
no no no no, comrade. Your rifle has not killed Nazis, it has killed fascists. Let the bourgeois Americans with their pinging toys worry about political parties. Your Mosin was made to kill ideas, so it killed fascists.

>>33514324
The nugget was a pre-Red weapon, though.

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>>33514324
This machine killed Communists.

>>33512173
Objectively better than literally any K98k.

>>33514324
Well put, comrade.

>>33513702
>better than the Carcano

What design features lead you to that conclusion?

>>33504400
Is silver bear good? I've only ever bought Tula.

>>33516090
The use of stripper clips as opposed to mannlicher chargers
The sights
The magazine itself
The lack of progressive rifling

Not that the Carcano is bad mind you.

>>33501267
For a $100 rifle it's excellent.

For a $300 rifle it's pretty shitty.

>>33501267
It works.

>>33516149
>The sights
What do you think is deficient vs the Mosin

>The lack of progressive rifling
Progressive rifling only becomes problematic if you try to chop down the barrel.

I would also contend that the Carcano utilized a considerably simpler and more elegant bolt and trigger design

>>33506865
>0.004 inch
wOAH your gun is going to blow up

>>33516325
Never said it would be dangerous using .308 diameter bullets for x54r

But you get better performance out of the cartridge when you use the proper diameter bullets

>>33511429
>It's the worst bolt action of Ww2
It was also 50 years old when Russia entered WWII.

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>is the mosin THAT good?
If you know what to look for when you're shopping for one it's really not hard to find a nice clean example that is absolutely worth it. The gun gets a shitty reputation because so many first time gun owners ran out and bought one because they were cheap and prominently featured in video games and movies. They didn't know how to shoot/care for them or even fully inspect one for functionality before purchase and suffered accordingly.

>>33516484
Yeah, pretty much. A lot of people bought it as babby's first gun because it was cheap, but it's really a bad choice for a first firearm. Most people in the past started with some single-shot or bolt-action .22 that their grandpa gave them when they turned 14, and they'd learn to shoot by knocking old tin cans off of fenceposts on the farm. These days, we're not as rural as we were and the idea of giving a firearm to a teenager horrifies us (weird how they didn't have a big problem with school shootings in, say, the 1930s though). So people don't have that experience, and they go out and buy a "nugget" because it's $60 bucks and they don't know any better. Having never had grandpa teach them how to care for a gun, they do shit like never even bothering to get all the cosmoline out of it or not giving it a good cleaning before putting it away. That's why you hear shit like "LOL garbage rod the bolt is like dragging a piano over a rocky beach".

It's the same reason why you don't give a new car to a teenager. The first car I ever owned eventually threw a rod because I didn't know enough to keep putting oil in it and it ran bone-dry for a couple months before giving out. The second car I ever owned lasted 26 years because I'd learned my lesson and took care of it. That's how things go.

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>>33516736
It's not only that grandpa didn't teach them to shoot or maintain a rifle, but it's that they just jumped into a decision with no forethought or preparation and expected everything to be fine. To this day I see trashed Mosins that people have played with and just dumped back into the market to further harm the iffy reputation of the rifles.

>>33516793
I'm very glad that milsurps have risen in price to the point where that doesn't really happen anymore. Let them go learn on, and fuck up, some dime a dozen Savage 64F instead.

>>33516484
>>33516736
So if I have a decent amount of firearm experience, should I still not get a Mosin for my first actual purchase?

>>33511451
Used to be astoundingly cheap to feed. After Sandy Hook there was a period where .22lr and 7.62x54r were not all that far off in price per round. I was buying spam cans of 440 rounds for $80 any day of the week.

Even now, though, it's really not that bad. 35-45 cents a shot for a full-size, full-power .30-cal load is damn cheap. I wish .303 were as inexpensive and readily available.

>>33501267
No, it's average. The only reason I bought one was because I thought it looked cool.

Is a PU Mosin worth $780 leafbucks (before sales tax)?

>>33518270
If it's an original PU sniper, absolutely.

>>33518111
>Mosin
>looking cool

oxymoron

>>33518270
Post pics of you can, I'll tell you if it's legit. If it's a reproduction, it's only worth the sum of its parts.

>>33518313
Mausers are ugly as sin

>>33518339
I havent bought it yet, its at a Canadian Tire (Canadas version of Cabellas). Ive heard their reputation for selling legit ones is kinda iffy, thats why I asled

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>>33501267
It's a good rifle and I love how it feels in my hands, and love slamming the bolt from position to position.
But the main draw of it has been 20c/r or less 54r surplus over the years.

No.
It was deffo worth getting when they were about a buck fifty a pop for a 91/30 tho.

>>33518065
If you want one and know what you're in for then yeah

>>33501267

No, it's surplus peasant garbage from yester era.

Get a job and get a real rifle.

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>>33518349

>>33518457
Most Mausers are ugly though.

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>>33518452
Uh huh.

>>33516260
Yes, the bolt and trigger are simpler to manufacture. That's part of why they feel so gritty.

The front sight on a Carcano lacks any sort of wings or hood to prevent damage. Additionally it's a large and sharp blade that can snag easily. The rear sights are taller and much more....cluttered I guess would be the word, compared to the simple tangent of a 91/30.