>he carries a gun >a firearm that is intended to be used

>Have my CC class from an instructor who showed us Cooper videos.
>Practice my draws and reloads with snap caps and saving up to get laser snap caps for target shooting.
>Bought CC insurance and carry cards in my wallet behind my license
>Didn't George Zimmerman my Florida self defense laws
>Always carry a flashlight and charge my phone and have my camera on video recording on standby
>Is a poorfag with a pocket .38 from the 70's

I draw at around .78 seconds, but I don't have a reliable timer. Nor do I have a holster since my last Uncle Mike's broke.

>>33485576
Joke's on you I don't carry

>>33485576
Fuck off FNS-guy

>>33485576
the man with sense and a gun will beat the nigger with a gun without any of those things.

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>>33485576
Constitutional carry and stand your ground+castle doctrine. I don't need to know shit. Fuck you gay boy

>>33485576
is that a boy or a girl? actually you don't have to answer, it's weird looking either way

>>33485613

>Uncle mike's

Buy a better holster dude

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>>33485682
grill

>>33485576
My draw time unconsealed is probably .3 of a second. However, from concealed id more likely opt for a falling draw to off set my increased draw time.

As far as some color code bullshit, people have been successfully killing people with guns long before whatever that shit is.

And a lawyer on speed dial? Nah, i know to keep my mouth shut and spend the week in jail until I make bail. Besides, public attorneys work fine.

>>33485682
>it's weird looking either way
fuck off fag

>>33485706

She's one tall glass of water. Goodness me.

>>33485683
It broke when I got out of my car doing a pizza delivery. I'm gonna look for a new concealment holster for a 3" .38 spl.

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Ok the coopers color codes and going to bullshit "defensive classes" is pushing it bucko.

>>33485779

>YOU CAN LEARN EVERYTHING ABOUT FIGHTING FROM THE INTERNET!

Did you check out Judo books from the library when you were a kid, too?

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>>33485576
not point shooting on the daily
>its like you want to get shanked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro7N7dAmjLY#t=9m8s

>he is not familiar with his local laws pertaining to self defense
>he does not have the number to a lawyer that specializes in self defense already in his contact list
better have luck on your side too

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>>33485747
yup
>>33485797
Typicaly tough guy who also thinks competition will get you killed. Guess that guy knows more than dudes like Tom Givens, Southnarc and Varg Freeborn that actually have decades of real world experience.

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>>33485576
LOL.
OP is a man-baby. How cute.

>>33485576

That's not what that girl is thinking anon. That's the look she gets on the first date when we are having a conversation about life, where I tell her things she already knows, so she can identify with me, oh so much.

>Spends twenty hours a week working on draw time and practicing point shooting, jerking off over the USCCA manual and quizzing his laywer on increasingly absurd self defense scenarios
>Lives in the most gentile of suburbs and never leaves the house anyway

/k/ - a magical place

>>33485576
I literally have done all those things (aside from the specialized lawyer thing, though I have discussed self defense with my regular lawyer)

>>33485870
>>33485870

Worse... will incorrectly perceive threat while losing situational awareness, actually rip open clothes to brandish deadly weapon and then nervously shake and negligently discharge into a bystander in an inappropriate esclation of force and then comically admit all the foregoing to law enforcement while still burning off stress hormones and... being recorded as he is waiving his Miranda v. Arizona protections.

But hey we know what some gun trainer's color coding bullshit system is and we pretend to be hard online, so why not.

Poser central.

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>>33485870
>Lives in the most gentile of suburbs

Oy vey, you expect me to go outside and be among those goyim? What if one of them notices what I'm doing with the federal reserve and gets uppity?

>>33486072
So nobody should carry then?
If peopy who train can't properly use a gun why do we allow concealed carry?

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>>33485576

>giving a shit about Jeff Cooper at all

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>>33485576
>he does not practice his draws
Why practice when I'm already perfect?
>he does not actually know his draw time
Fast enough.
>he does not have proper mindset
"Let God sort 'em out"
>he is not familiar with his local laws pertaining to self defense
I am the law.

>>33486115
How's the ditch treatin' ya Yeager?

>>33486121

Fuck Buck as well.

>>33485576
I would DO the girl in your pic, if you are aware of my underhanded implication

>>33486143
What did he mean by this ?

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>>33486143
??

>>33486156
I think he may be referring to missionary-style intercourse for the purpose of procreation

>>33485576
Jokes on you it's illegal to defend yourself in Canada.

>>33485810
Feel free to post more.

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>>33486119
You americlaps are too precious.

>>33485576
the fuck do I care what justin beiber thinks?

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>>33486244

>>33485721

As a student-at-law wanting to work as a public defender, it's nice to know when members of the public have faith in this branch of the legal profession.

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>>33485576

>people who practice their draws like idiots, then do shit like draw and immediately reholster their weapon when they get into a situation in distress

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>>33485682
>girls that look like boys that look like boys that look like girls...

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>>33486163
Attractive'd

>>33485613
What insurance do you use?

>>33486766

>poor people who can't afford hiring a lawyer
>not being guilty
>have to defend them

wew lad, what a job

>>33486801
damn, that really works

fucking edgelord piercings, ruining things.

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> This is OP
> This is thread
> OP is bored, so here we are

I'd tell you sage goes in all fields, but sadly it doesn't work anymore.

>>33485810
Oh mein Gott, mein Schwanz

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>>33486863
tomboys > all desu senpai

>>33486163
>facial piercings
>WOOP! WOOP! DANGER! DANGER!

>>33485576
I can't carry in my fucking country, so I guess I don't do this

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>he doesn't take cute left-wing tomboys to the gun range and slowly groom them into becoming more and more right-wing
>he doesn't redpill them on biology and jews and slowly makes them more and more anti-semitic and family-oriented
>he doesn't have a qt right-wing tomboy who reads him mein kampf before bed every night and cleans his guns with the utmost love and care during the day
why the fuck even live, chums?

>>33487088
I don't make friends with degenerates. I kill degenerates.

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>>33486891
>we need to go thiccer

>>33487088
My grandfather killed nazis and I would gladly do the same.

Nice Hitler dubs tho.

>>33487248

Your grandfather would have voted for a nazi without blinking. It just so happened that he was sent to fight them instead. Don't believe me? Go to a home for elderly people and have a chat with them about politics.

>>33487301
>You're grandpa was a closet Nazi because I said so so Nazism is goat
Ebin post dood

>>33487301
>this is your brain on /pol/

>>33487373

Nazism was shit. But the openly political part of it was pretty close to the political currents of the period. Plenty other countries had parties, some times major ones, who ran on fairly similar programs.

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>>33487431
>Nazism was shit.
EPIC FAIL

>>33486816
he also thinned her cheeks, arched and thinned her eyebrows, modified her lips, and changed her overall coloring.

but yeah man those piercings really ruined her huh?

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I do practice draws all the time, but I always feel pic related.

Also, here's a protip for the kids:
If a chick is hot, she's hot. It doesn't matter if she's the bonde woo-girl, or the tomboy, or the emo chick, or the scene girl... That's just hot-chick costumes. Hot it hot, everything else is window dressing.

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>>33487469
You're not wrong, but tomboys are the patrician hot-chick costumes, my chum

>>33487456
>managing to bankrupt the country with both the largest population and largest industrial capacity in Europe to the point where the government will collapse if Poland isn't invaded and wartime economic measures are not taken
>not shittier than this shit thread
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/pol/
>>>/mlp/

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>>33485620
not me but OP is def a man of excellence and taste

>tfw no laywers #

gotta git on dat

>>33486072
>what is hebbian plasticity

>>33485706
Name. Now! >:V

>>33487616
Probably something gay like Jessie or Karen or some shit

>>33487625
>Karen
Fucking gross

Mmmm, tomboys. Like teenage boys only with an extra pussy.

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>>33487677
Homosexuals abscond

>>33487677
D A Y O F T H E R O P E
A
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F

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P
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Of all the things I never did in my life, not learning to use a gun real good-like is hardly the one I'm most bent on. Maybe it'll get me killed, fuck it. I bought the gun so let's hope that much saves my bacon. If not then I didn't really try. It's not like Cleetus or Tyrone really spent any time learning it either.

>>33487458
looking back, you're right, but she's great in the first one too... minus the piercings.

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>>33487645
>>33487625

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>>33485576
>that guy has a gun but he's not autistic like me so it looks like I have the upper hand ;)

>>33485803
Hahahaha what the fuck is this guy doing? Is that gunkata? Is he a ninja?

Nope, just a tacticool faggot.

>>33485803
Also holy dicks. Did you even watch that video? It's literally some of the worst trigger discipline, muzzle control, and handgun tactics known to man. Go ahead, go watch it.

>>33486813

Choose to, not have to. Plus it gives one the opportunity to call police out on any rights-violating actions and misdeeds in an arena where such statements actually matter--it can make a huge difference to the outcome of the accused.

>>33487469
One thing that messes with your assessment of hot: Water.

I don't know what it is but a chick getting out of the water, or in a shower, or whatever can appear deceptively hot. It's like when you find a cool stone in a stream, put it in your pocket where it dries, then later pull a completely average rock out of your pocket and wonder 'why the fuck was I carrying this around'

Now, back your regularly scheduled shitposting

>>33487728

I'm an autist with guns so I guess I've got the uppermost hand...

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>>33487469
I am basically the same autism as taxi driver, but I get the sense that some people on this board take it way too far. Always talking about degeneracy, women being whores, fighting against what they hate in society while being poor fags with shit jobs and no future, bathing in porn and politics.

>>33487785
>It's like when you find a cool stone in a stream, put it in your pocket where it dries, then later pull a completely average rock out of your pocket and wonder 'why the fuck was I carrying this around'
Best Analogy, 2017

>>33486108

Indeed, most should.

>>33487600
>>what is hebbian plasticity

... useless without actual practice using the weight of a firearm under extreme duress and fatigue. Something less than a scintilla of a percentage on this imagebored do. Also, nice consecutive zero digits.

>>33488979
>useless

buttfucking huge reductive oversimplification and you know it lad

not everything can always be a simulation, it often has to be a representation, people have been learning to perfect physical acts in representative scenarios fo rEVAH

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>>33485576

>he does not practice his draws
lol yes I do
>he does not actually know his draw time
No idea what you mean by this
>he does not have proper mindset
My mindset is rage at people who want to hurt me
>he does not know what Cooper's color codes are
Nor should you, faggot
>he is not familiar with his local laws pertaining to self defense
I not only know them, but have a degree in that field
>he does not have the number to a lawyer that specializes in self defense already in his contact list
That would be redundant
>he has not attended a defensive pistol class by a vetted instructor
Because I don't want to be filled with the modern equivalent of fuddlore

>>33489023
I don't understand /k/'s aversion to taking a damn class.
>I don't need to be taught
>I'll just google how to do it and pantomime a crude approximation of whatever bullshit I find
Find someone better than you and pay them to teach you, just like literally every other skill or sport ever. Nobody has ever been anything more than a novice relying solely on self instruction.

>>33489020
>rEVAH

I think you need to put down the neuroscience text for a bit and get some sunlight but the inference of "lad" suggests you're on the British island where Vitamin D is so deficient and depression and madness reign. Your post exemplifies "can't see the forest for the trees" because training under actual physical scenarios putting both stress on the body and mind is what forms neural connections to perform a particular task, whether free-throws in basketball, slider pitch in baseball, body position in a number of sports, or particular to this board, use of hands and fingers in retrieving and holding a handgun for use in combat.

>>33489081

What you are implying is that static shooting of baskets wouldn't improve your % in an actual game, which is patently false and you know it.

Yes full simulation is better - I don't disagree, but to totally dismiss anything less is silly, stop being combative for a second and be intellectually honest with yourself.

In the end we don't disagree that much, and I consider myself one of the dedicated few who TRIES to work in a simulated environment as much as possible.

good day to you sir

>>33489069

>>I don't need to be taught
I didn't need to be taught how to drive, and 99% of gun handling skills come from practice, so... fuck yourself?

>>I'll just google how to do it and pantomime a crude approximation of whatever bullshit I find
>implying I would ever do that.
Show me an instructor that isn't retarded and full of modern fuddlore, and maybe I'll humor you.

>Find someone better than you and pay them to teach you, just like literally every other skill or sport ever. Nobody has ever been anything more than a novice relying solely on self instruction.
Kek. I'll go tell Usain Bolt.

You're another brainwashed groupthink retard
>hurr gotta get dat trainin! dats wut all da ppl on tha internet sed!

>>33485779
>the coopers color codes
wrf is that?

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>>33485576

I wanted to who this hot chick was... I used google Image search. Basically only guys cam up. AM I GAY /k/?

>>33486876
that's not a tomboy a tomboy does not have any makeup

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>>33489208
That's some arbitrary bullshit that applies only to you my "friend". And by friend I mean never my friend. Don't give me your paltry (you)'s ever again.

>>33489153
>Usain Bolt has never had an instructor
That's total fucking bullshit and you pulled that out of your ass.
You are obsessed with the idea that everyone who isn't you is a retard that can't actually shoot faster than you and that you aren't doing anything wrong or slow and that nobody knows better than you, ESPECIALLY (this is the dumbest part) people who make a living teaching people to shoot faster than you. This isn't a matter of fuddlore, this is a matter of supreme arrgoance.

Wake me up when you get to MA or EX without a single class. Enjoy being MM for life.

>>33489069
>I don't understand /k/'s aversion to taking a damn class.

Dunning Kruger effect and general poorfaggotry

>>33485747
That dame probably huffs the reefer. She's the bee's knees.

>>33489218
just because you have a pixie cut doesnt make you a tomboy

>>33486766

Lawyers are just sharks whose whole profession is to interpret and translate our bloated legal code and to represent people with money.

Public defenders are just baby sharks so fuck off with yourself.

>>33489365
Yes it does. Learn the law.

>>33489378
I don't think you know what a tomboy is

>>33489381
I think you think I care what you think.

>>33489339

>>Usain Bolt has never had an instructor
He's had coaches, but he rarely trains by his own admission.

>You are obsessed with the idea that everyone who isn't you is a retard that can't actually shoot faster than you and that you aren't doing anything wrong or slow and that nobody knows better than you, ESPECIALLY (this is the dumbest part) people who make a living teaching people to shoot faster than you. This isn't a matter of fuddlore, this is a matter of supreme arrgoance.
I see you completely ignored everything I said, and decided to attack a straw man.
Great. Makes it easier to ignore you argument in turn.

>Wake me up when you get to MA or EX without a single class. Enjoy being MM for life.
lol you're just jealous that you aren't as good as me

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>he doesn't have a backup copy of his cc gun

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>>33489400

>he CC's a gun you can just go down to a gunstore and get a copy of

How fucked would I be if I cc'd underage and gunned down a upstanding individual of the black community in premeditated selfdefense?

Also girls with short hair are my kink.

>>33486876
>pixie cut = tomboy
I'd call you retarded but you'd probably say something like "n-no you!"

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>>33485576
Instructors are a waste of time

>Spend money on someone who is going to talk to you as if you know nothing for hours and spend 75% of the course teaching you about gun safety as if you are a literal retard.

Kek

Just go to the range as much as you can and you get the same effect. Safety is for idiots who cant use basic logic or reason

"Hurr so I am not supposed to look in the barrel of a gun when it is loaded?"

>>33485576
Also stuff your color codes my ancestors didn't need color codes when they were buttfucking Natives.

>>33489208
Seconded. Pixie cut + pixie face =/= tomboy

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>>33486796
I'm fine with it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LemG0cvc4oU

>>33489397
There's nothing to be jealous about. You've admitted entirely that you're a permamarksman who thinks that people who charge money to teach people to shoot faster are going to fill you with nonsense and stand around doing nothing, despite never having attended a course of any kind. I'll believe you when I see a scoresheet proving you're not a bottom-rung shitter popping off about things you don't understand.

You will never shoot a five second El Prez. What is there to be jealous of?

>>33489481
>I took a $20 NRA """class"""
>I think this is representative of the people who make a living teaching defensive, competitive and combat shooting
Are you even able to breathe without assistance?

>>33489400
welp.

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>>33486766
public defenders in my experience want to make a difference and help people through unfair legal issues. the rich assholes you have to pay a fortune for usually don't care.

>>33489400
>he doesn't have a back copy of his EDC AND his holster AND his pocket light AND his WML

It's like you guys WANT to be armless

>>33489069
>Nobody has ever been anything more than a novice relying solely on self instruction.

This is entirely not true, and my personal favourite of the many examples available is Tolkien.

>>33485576
>he does not know what Cooper's color codes are
That's right, because he was a fucking retard.

>>33489378
>law
Wut?

>>33489650

Did you hear a whooshing sound as something flew over your head while you posted that?

when
>man murdered
>was a concealed carrier
becomes a common thing (like happening more than ONCE in history) then maybe OP's bullshit will matter just a tiny bit.

>>33486795
is that actually something that happens?

>>33489156
It's that red yellow green thing

>>33490381
I once saw a guy immediatly dropping his newly inserted mag during a high stress cqb live fire exercise. The guy was the fastest to reload in our company, and he had practiced doing chains of 8 fast reloads.
so when he was stressed as fuck he just pushed the mag release when he inserted the new mag, and proceeded to load another one

>>33489481
That's a baby-tier instructor. Find somebody who does or previous did competition shooting.

>>33490404
that's funny as hell

>>33487429
>>33487373
>>33487248
>not realizing how good the actual politics of nazism were
>getting caught up on the "muh hitler" and "muh genocide"

>>33487487
What is WW1
What is the treaty of Versailles
What is Basic history
Eat my entire ass

>>33490422
This, if your instructor is worth anything he'll do both civilian defensive/competitive training and special forces instruction. Find one that does that and you'll be high SS-tier in a weekend.

>2008
>TDSA AP1 course
>start weekend with drill
>draw, 2 rounds each on three steel plates at fifteen yards, slidelock reload, 2 rounds each target, all in one string
>11 seconds, two misses
>two days and two thousand rounds later
>repeat drill
>5.95 seconds one miss
That was money VERY well fucking spent.

>>33490422

>competition shooting
>self defense shooting
Pick one and only fucking one, you fucking retard.

>>33490475

>training yourself for competition shooting instead of self defense
lol, enjoy doing your retarded drills while Jamal shoots your ass, faggot

>>33485721
>public attorneys work fine
>notheyfuckingdont.jpg

You have obviously never been anywhere near a courtroom

t. currently employed at a private defense firm

>>33485810
i like her feet

>>33485576
SHALL

>>33490486
>>33490477
The drills for both are the same. Only your gear changes. If you shoot IDPA, not even your gear changes because the entire point is to use yoir carry gun and holster from concealment. Nothing stops you from practicing both.
Unless you're some whackadoodle that shoots IPSC Open class.

And the idea of a dindu out-shooting a competitive shooter is completely idiotic.

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>>33490642

>The drills for both are the same.
pic related, thanks for letting me know to ignore your post up front before I wasted more time on it

>>33490653
>draw from concealment
>fire
>repeat
Enlighten me, oh guru.

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>>33490660

>convince me that I'm retarded, while I try my best to not think I'm retarded
lol, I'd have to be retarded to try that

I don't know what you are on about I'm just here for the tomboys

>>33490677
So you have no answer then. Great. Typical 4chan "I am smarter than you and I don't have to prove it" response. Maybe when you actually have something to back up your shitposting somebody might actually start to take you seriously. Until then, you have nothing.

Now, again, how exactly is training for self defense literally any different to IDPA shooting? You wear your clothes the same, you use the same gun, you use the same holster, and you do the same shit. I see nothing that you could change to make it any more relevant. So if you want to continue shitposting, then please, substantiate your retarded claims.

>>33489153

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS-Ukl58teA

literally wut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS-Ukl58teA

>>33489153
>I didn't need to be taught how to drive
And the moment you step onto a track, you will get your ass reamed out to three times its previous diameter.

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>>33490719

>he thinks we're having an argument
>he thinks that I have to prove things to him
>he still doesn't realize how retarded he looks

N I C E

>>33490721

>retarded fudd calling himself some gay made up title
>Sponsored by GLOCK

Stopped watching there tee bee aych famme

>>33490738

Gee guess I better go to some tryhard driving instructor who's never actually been in a race in his life

>>33490742
Alright then, thanks for proving you don't actually own any guns.

>>33490777

I can feel how mad you are right now.
Please deny it. I wanna see the post.
Hopefully you go for an attempt at dry sarcasm. I love those.

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>>33490788
>>33490777
>>33490766
>>33490755

>55
>66
>77
>88

>>33490766
Why would you do that when there are plenty that have? I think I'm starting to see the pattern here. Because shitty cut-rate instructors with no real experience exist, this invalidates every instructor out there, including the guys with multiple Daytona or F1 wins. Am I getting close?

>>33490798

>Hey, i wanna learn some defensive driving skills
>>DUDE U GOTTA GO PAY $2000/HOUR TO LEARN FROM A RACECAR DRIVER DOOOOOOD!!!!!

>>33490788
>u mad
Are you done shitposting yet?

>>33490807

Says the person with the 'hurr u noguns' post!
Priceless.

>>33490806
Hey, you're the one implying that only useless or super-expensive pro level instructors exist. I'm just trying to get you to understand that the world doesn't work that way.

>>33490822

>Hey, you're the one implying that only useless or super-expensive pro level instructors exist.
Except we're specifically talking about professional instructors?
Do you not know what hyperbole is?
???

>>33490820
You're the one that tried to make a claim and then back out of it with a "we're not having to argument" remark like an antifa trying to run after throwing a punch so you don't actually have to put anything behind what you say.

>>33489384
Stop thinking this second

>>33490834

>You're the one that tried to make a claim

Found your first mistake there, kiddo.

>>33490843
Yet your only response has been 'nuh uh'.

>>33490456
I bet you believe the Wiemar Republic was a failed state and that the Germans had no history of republicanism too. All the progress that happened under Hitler was already happening when he got into power and would have continued whether or not he got in power. Then he co-opted the new, democratic German economy that actually was, as it is now, strong enough to stand on its own legs, as indicated by the strong growth during the 20s, and decided that he dun need more money for them programs and completely ruined the good that had happened under his predecessors. The Wiemar Republic was likely doomed from the start, but it wasn't doomed to become a genocidal dictatorship until Hitler showed up.

There's more to reality than what you see on the History Channel.

>>33490444
>how good the actual politics of nazism were
What was good about it? Do you have any actual examples?

>>33489369
Lawyers are the system you fuck, it's the system you CHOOSE to remain in so suck it up and play the game. If there were only one lawyer in a town he would starve, but a second moves in and they'll be the richest people in town. Because that's how this fucking country is, lawyers are only playing the correct game for the court we all choose to play on. Government political positions are 90% taken up by attorneys and former officers of the court as if it's some rule or something, they didn't put themselves there.

>>33489400
>having a copy of anything
My autism can't handle that.

>>33485674
This right here, I feel like in a state like AZ too much preparedness and the media will skewer you as a wannabe operator instead of a fudd who shot a burglar. As long as you don't go full retard and shoot somebody in a movie theater or Walmart you're fine.

>>33489069
>Nobody has ever been anything more than a novice relying solely on self instruction.
Tell that to:
Frank Lloyd Wright
Leonardo da Vinci
Henry Ford
The wright brothers
Charles Darwin
Michael Faraday
Benjamin Franklin
Dave Grohl
Prince
David Bowie
Noel Gallagher
Walt Disney
Even fucking Hitler was an autodidact

>>33487248

That's cute, kid.

>>33485613
Still better than my pocket .32 from the 40s

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>>33487213
>we need to go thiccer
I got you senpai

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>>33494263
brehs

>>33487699

>I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get into a fair gunfight.

You're free to own a gun and be a fucking dummy so I guess so. I know you're trying to be cool by being ambivalent but you people need to go die.

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>>33494285
No thanks man, I likes my women soft with plenty to grab ahold of

>>33494319
Are you black?

>>33494319
oh sweet......
potbelly thread when?

>>33491706

Lawyers aren't shit. They're overpriced translators and unlike yourself, are paid to argue (not even facts).

I have no respect for people with no practical skills.

>>33494331
Only below the waist ;^)