AR Build noob and Q&A

>>33481637
They're supposed to be loose like that you retard

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>>33481637
>delton upper
disgusting. Google around for parts and watch youtube tutorials on how to build gayr15s. Sootch and ir8888 has pretty decent videos on them despite the channels themselves being relatively uninformitive.
>/arg/ is bad hurdud
honestly, as insufferable as some of the trips are (looking at you giddy), they actually recommend some the best gears available on the market and for good reason. I won't blame you for wanting to avoid it but they hold some merits. /akg/ is the one you want to avoid completely, as it offers absolutely nothing and consist purely of trips attention posting

>>33481653
Yea no....
Try again, if that were the case then every single AR I have handled besides the one I built, would all have been built "wrong" including factory and home built.

>tripfags
Not surprised really...

>>33481637
Try to buy an upper and a lower from the same company.

>>33481699
Yea I know ARG has a few reasonable people, just too many circle jerkers there fawning over how much their solid brass lower cost lol.

>delton
Yea I learned the hard way and that's why I wanna build a new one that's not total shite.
How are Model 1 uppers? Kinda wanted to do a faux XM177 for the lulz.

>>33481763
Yea, learned that the hard way lol.

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>>33481770
ive heard mixed things about em online, mostly problems with feed ramps iirc. I would stick to the fn barreld Psa models if you want to get a quality upper for cheap price tag, or upgrade to a BCM if you want something nice.
desu, if you're inexperienced with Ars, you wont notice the difference between the two. The psa should run you about 450 and another 100 or so for the bcg. slap it on any lower with a nice trigger in it (geissele or larue), and you have a quality ar for about 900 buckaroos.

>>33482291
Ok, now is where I get "cod kiddie mode". I do want a rifle that if needs be I could "go to war" with it. Like use and abuse but still function pretty well.

Does PSA tend to fit the bill then?

>>33482427
as long as you get the fn barreled model and not their budget upper that cost 200 dollars, then yes.

>>33482512
I'm guessing the "freedom" ones are the cheap barrels?

>>33482536
correct.
You want one of these
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-midlength-lightweight-chf-5-56-nato-1-7-15-m-lok-upper-w-magpul-mbus-sight-set-no-bcg-ch.html
if you dont like memelok, then go look around their website for a keymod version

Why don't you just buy one of those small plastic pieces that stop it from rattling

>>33482547
>how to get your credit card stolen

Use a virtual CC number for this site people get their shit stolen from here all the time

>>33482582
Really? Didn't know they existed. Wasn't sure what to google as a troubleshoot.

>>33482623
accuwedge

Hey, OP, what you need is an accuwedge. It'll fix the rattle.

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receiver-hardware/accu-wedges/ar-15-m16-accu-wedge-prod27507.aspx

Also, Delton's no worse than PSA. They both produce serviceable uppers.

>>33482637
Sweet.
Thanks man, you are a gentleman and a scholar.

>>33482656
basspro, caballas, dicks sporting goods, and turners outdoors all carry them in shop as well

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you do not need to pay 600$ for an upper
stripped uppers and lowers are basically the same throughout price points as long as they're milspec
browse r gundeals
also browse ARG to find deals; i got this DD rail for 30$
lastly pick what you like over what everyone loves

>>33481653
I'll never understand the statistics of how 100% of tripfags are complete faggots, and always wrong.
You'd think every now and then a cool one would slip in.

>>33482688
that rifle looks awful.
>lastly pick what you like over what everyone loves
its almost went without saying that that is exactly what you did.

>>33481637
>>33481732
Well its not uncommon when you mix and match.it does affect accuracy or anything but if it triggers your autism,put an oring on the front lug of the upper.

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>>33482665
no worries my man, i just completed my own first build not too long ago with an anderson lower and psa upper...had wobble, put in accuwedge..no more wobble

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>>33482718
my rifle is top tier u scum

>>33482723
Might have just saved me from an expensive divorce lol. Wife is still a little agitated I spent $600 on a Remington 1917 a few weeks ago.

>>33482753
>scope choice
>barrel color
>infinitely more rail real-estate than is required
>mag choice
>engravings on dust cover

its a solid 5/10 man

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good rifle mang, get an MRO or a pro and ur set

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>>33482817
>bead blasted hanson barrel
>1x6 ACSS PA optic made in same factory as vortex
>rail covers absolute least amount possible of barrel, rail covers cover extra space
>Lancer 20rd mags
>not engraving your dust cover
wew bud let me see urs

Whats the opinion of PTAC kits off of PSA? Are they half way decent?

>>33482852
I gotta say. It is not a 5/10, but the color of the barrel is def. gross, so I would say its a 7/10

>>33482859
ptac is a no go as far as im concerned
pretty sure they dont even stake the keys on those

>>33482852
there's no need for rustled jimmies friend, this place wouldn't be /k/ without disagreements.

>>33482909
spend the little bit of extra money and wait for a daily deal on one of their premium uppers

>>33482696
I find /k/ tripfags to be either total faggots or legends (like Oppenheimer). Very little in-between.

>>33482859
I'd stay away from them. You can get Ruger AR-556s for $500 right now.

>>33482948
yes or the freedom ones

Since this seems to be an AR thread that's more helpful than ARG, I'll ask here.
Just got an UBR stock for my 308ar, and threw in a Sprinco Orange because it's Carbine length. My BCG is catching on the mags follower instead of the bolt catch to hold itself open. What spring do I need if not Carbine to fix this ? Or do I need a new BCG?
> Please don't let it be the BCG.

>>33482960
>Oppenheimer
fuck man, when was the last time he was here? I haven't heard that name get dropped in a long time.
I tripfagged for the better part of 6 months a few years ago, but only in this ultra specific thread about my business just so people could identify me. I like to think I wasn't a total faggot.

>>33483015
are you talking last round hold open?
that wouldn't be the springs issue, would be ur catch id assume

>>33482852
Uggo as fuck. Also just because that optic was produced in the same building as Vortex does not speak for quality. I owned a PA 1-6 and after less than 1k rounds the eye piece developed a rattle and some internal piece had come loose and was rattling around. Getting it warranty'd out was a pain in the ass and the one they replaced it with had the same issue in almost no time at all. Also;
>second focal plane in a variable power optic that has a ranging feature
>laughingsluts.jpg

You're a fucking poor-as-fuck-fag and need to stop acting like you are anything but by trying to justify your bargain bin purchases.

>>33483145
>i buy the same shit you do and i call you a poorfag
genius

>>33483015
Did it run correctly before, or did you just build it?

>>33481699
What if I told you Giddy's MK18 is one a delton lower.... Because it is. I've shot it.

>>33481637
>be me
>build several AR over last decade
>some are tighter than a nuns pussy
>others rattle around like a fucking spray paint can
>they all function fine

Just get over it autistic nerd

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Ok guys, let's play a game. I'm going to post a list of shit that would equate to a fully built AR! You guys rate it on a scale of 1-10.
(Complete Upper):
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-5-56-nato-1-7-mid-melonite-11-m-lok-freedom-upper-with-bcg-ch-516445314.html

(MOMEME Lower Build Kit):
http://palmettostatearmory.com/moe-lower-build-kit-black.html

(Lower [Picked this one because I already had their site open. They are all the same.]):
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-blemished-safe-fire-lower.html

(El Cheapo Irons from Amazon:)
[Rear]:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016K3I83G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[Front]:
https://www.amazon.com/SNIPER-Standard-AR-15-Front-Sight/dp/B008L6BCIO/ref=pd_bxgy_200_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B008L6BCIO&pd_rd_r=M0H9M19E2CZ49G25EZ8Y&pd_rd_w=yC9HI&pd_rd_wg=9PXKJ&psc=1&refRID=M0H9M19E2CZ49G25EZ8Y

I did this with a budget of about $600 in mind. Post your ideas and rate them

>>33483283
Literally just buy an AR556 from CDNN for $499

>>33483283
Oh yeah. I forgot the price.

In all. $506.47
I was grossly under budget which leaves alot of room for improvement with the rest of the budget. Or you could just buy ammo and enjoy the rifle

>>33483325
Well anyone could just buy the rifle, but this is for you to creat a list of shit that would equate to a build that you want. It does not need to be budget. i just had PSA open already, so that is where all of my parts came from.

>>33483191
And I bet that because I eat ramen that means I'm really poor, even poorer than you, you fucking imbecile. I have enough disposable income that I can buy a cheap scope to do a review for my YT channel if I so please. You bought a second focal plane variable power optic, albeit 1-6x, with a ranging feature that is also a piss poor BDC. If you admitted that you bought it because it was cheap and you're cheap instead of pretending that what you got was kobe beef at rotten hamburger meat price no one would be shitting on you except people who intentionally want to rustle your jimmies.

>>33483054
>>33483197
Just built it, bolt isn't going back far enough to hit the bolt catch, just the follower of the mag.

>>33483283
Don't buy cheap irons, get something of decent quality with a warranty if you can. A friend of mine has spent more on shitty irons than if he had just bought a decent set to begin with.

>>33483283
Your upper is a 6/10 because it's not an FN barrel, and your sights are 0/10 for airsoft shit

Overall, a correctly assembled AR with no idiot marks built with those parts would probably be a 6or7 out of ten on the scale of "did I build a functional carbine for homestead defence and training purposes" scale.

You aren't going to do wildly better with that budget, but you can get you money's worth spending a bit more.

>>33483351
I don't know why you would want bottom of the barrel parts though

Given the current market conditions with regards to AR15's, there is no reason to build one under $900, and by that same token nor is there reason to build for over $1800 unless it is specifically for competition, given the price of KAC SR15 hovering around around 2k.

Less than 900 bucks you may get yourself a FF rail or different stock. Maybe a slightly upgraded trigger. But you aren't getting a particularly good barrel.

Over $1800, as I mentioned KAC or LMT territory you get rifles designed around objectively improved system functionality like KAC E2 bolt and Mod 2 gas system, or LMT enhanced BCG as well along with actual customer service and warranties that are also present on low end factory rifles (AR556 for example).

It's that 900-1800 price range where you can sacrifice customer service and warranties for different parts that save weight, are more accurate, more durable etc and there is any reason to bother building one.

>>33483380
My initial concern would be that the lower might be out of spec, causing the bolt catch to not press the magazine follower down.

>>33482859
ptac does not explode and the bullets leave the barrel traveling in a forward direction. anything past that is a bonus. but hey you built the cheapest ar you could great job.

>>33482688
That AR a shit.

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How easily/freely is the bolt supposed to be able to move in it's carrier group?

>>33483283
Airshit sights.

>>33483334
That's the price without a lower, or sights worth buying. An AR-556, and an aftermarket freefloat handguard would be cheaper.

>>33483552
you should be able to stand the bcg up on the bolt and not move
>>33483283
>(El Cheapo Irons from Amazon:)
dont do this the is the equivalent of spending a thousand bucks on a gaming computer but using the 14inch crt you found in the trash as a monitor

>>33482852
Nice build anon. If you like, more power too you. Its honestly more about how it shoots.

>>33482696
Tripfaggots haven't been good since Meplat left.

>>33483362
I obviously didn't buy the PA because it was extremely high quality, but it was a deal and the ACSS reticle keeps from starbursting with my shitty eyes.

>>33483509
This is after i installed an UBR and a Sprinco Orange Carbine recoil spring. I'll swap that back out for the standard buffer tube in a few minutes (just got off work) and see what happens, but I seem to remember it catching then.

>>33483681
The receiver extension and buffer spring shouldn't have anything to do with the bolt hitting the magazine follower. If changing them back has an effect, I'd still suspect the problem is somewhere else, and the stiffer spring is merely making the problem more apparent.

>>33483509
have you tried other mags some mags just suck

>>33483807
I think you meant to respond to me. The guybwith the problem. I'm using the Magpul Gen3 LR/SR mags.

Does anyone have any input on the quality of and service status of "Model 1 Sales" AR uppers?

Toying with the idea of making a pseudo XM117 or CAR Dissipator rifle but I dunno much about this company.

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>>33483827
Apologizing now for the fuck huge phone quality pic.
Far left: PSA PA-10 buffer tube.
Left Spring: PSA PA-10 Standard 308 spring.
Right Spring: Sprinco Orange Carbine 308 Spring.
Attached to Lower: Magpul UBR Buffer Tube.

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>>33483994
Again, sorry for the shitty phone quality.
> Bolt catching on mag instead of bolt catch.

>>33483029
>when was the last time he was here?
Few weeks ago. He just posts as Anon.

>>33484058
does that happen when live fired or just you fucking around with empty mags? cause ive got one magpul mag that does the same thing when im just dicking around with it but its never failed to lock back with real ammo. the issue is the follower gets infront of the mag catch pinning it in place instead of being under it and pushing up.

>>33484312
Happens with just dicking around and live fire. Bolt seems to jump over the next round then get stuck. With both mags i have.

>>33481699
>>33481770
>>33482291

I have an AR with the same 20 inch upper as OP's and it works great, I don't understand the hate.

Not OP. Anyone here just eyeballs the gas block (alignment) and gets good result every time?

>>33484699
I had to take a pencil and mark the center of my gas port on the barrel and the center of my block. One of the few things I can't eyeball and get right every time. It was close though.

What are some good cheap mags for ARs?

Preferably not poly, always liked the look of aluminum 20rd mags.

>>33484816
I like D&H, people on here like OKAY (I've never used them) PSA sells aluminum mag bundles all the time though.

>>33482696
>Oppenheimer, Chimps, Zasta, and Gropey
Comprehensive list of helpful non-retards who trip.

>>33484058
>>33483994
Have you tried putting the old spring back in? Buffer tubes look the same length. Don't know why you changed springs

>>33484816
Brownels brand of straight 20rd mags work very well.

>>33482852
I think it's pretty neat, 6/10

>>33483283
If you want fixed sights, get a set of Daniel Defense fixed sights.
If you don't mind flip-ups/back up sights, the cheapest solid sights are going to be magpul mbus.

there's a difference between cost saving and buying real cheap shit.

>>33484888
Okay industries has been making oem mags for a long time. Namely for Colt from what I've read and heard.

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>>33481637
>>33481653

They're not supposed to do that but that's what you get for buying cheap upper.

>>33481763

If you're going to buy cheap, this Anon is right, they'll be more likely not to rattle.


I built 2 ARs both on Anderson lowers. One had a PSA upper the other a BCM upper. Neither rattled at all. Buy good names.

>>33486420
Because the UBR won't go onto the old buffer. Old spring won't even let it rest on the follower.