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If you could change anything about gun culture in America today, what would it be?

I'm not talking about laws, as we all know everyone would say abolish the NFA or import bans, but more about the culture itself, whether it's gun company or consumer culture.

I'll start:

>Pic related

I wish manufacturers would stop turning their guns into billboards. I know it's to cover their own ass legally, but I think it ruins the aestics of any gun you find it on. Ruger is particularly bad about it. Hell, maybe go even farther and not have any visible text on the gun, except for maybe the S/N.
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>>33476847
Agreed.
Also, it would be far less segregated
(I'm looking at you, AR-fags.)
People wouldn't ONLY give a shit about stuff that "only affects them"
Fuck that.
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>>33476847
On some guns it looks good.
And don't forget.
>GRIP ZONE
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>>33476847
That we all just accept that we should love all guns.
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>>33476885
>It doesn't affect me mentality
I hate that. I remember the shit storm between AR and AK guys during the 7n6 ban. I disn't even own an AK at the time and that drove me up that wall.

Same goes during the potential green tip ban. I get that people were upset that they didn't get support from the other side... but shit, two wrongs dont make a right, especially in that case.
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>>33476917
Jericho = Uglycho
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>>33476918
Agreed. I would never own something like say, a Hi-Point, but I'm not going to shit on someone for owning one. Just makes gun owners look like elitist assholes.
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>>33476942
Have a (You)
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An increased desire for unique/aesthetically pleasing guns. Like how the maxim 9 has a built in silencer and looks pretty futuristic. I'd love for there to be more new guns that aren't necessarily more effective, just neat looking.
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>>33476847
I'd say my issue is is a more narrow version of >>33476885 and >>33476924 but more towards the old person issue. Half of those over 50ish tend to make it their mission to make shooting as unfun as possible by being either overbearing or extremely fuddy.
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more silenced glocks so I can kill babies more effectively you fucking psychopaths
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>>33476924
7n6 is what fully drove me from ever getting an AR.
Now I'm just gonna get anything not an AR to fill my 5.56 niche that I need to fill.
I don't want to be part of their community or in any way potentially assumed to be related to them.
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>>33476942
The fuck outta here.
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>>33477011
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>>33476847
While I agree on the silly read the manual shit, I think that the text on firearms are a huge part of the aestetics, and that well made firearms made by competent smiths strikes a good balance between tasteful text, and empty space.
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>>33476847
How illegal would it be to remove the read owners manual label on my rifles barrel?
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>>33476942
I can't believe I share an internet with you.
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I'd want everyone to put a nice keyholder on their pistol
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>>33477387

Not at all, it's your property.
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>>33476942
Found the glocksucker
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>>33477387
Not illegal at all, as long as you don't alter the serial number on the part legally considered the receiver you can do whatever you want.

Heck you could strip every mark off of a Ruger AR-556 and remark it as a 'BabyDozer 9000XL' with fire selector marks of 'Safe, Murderize, and Maximum OverRape' if it's what you wanted.
Just don't touch the serial number if you want your dog to live.
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>>33476847
I wish all the republicans in the community would kill themselves.
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>>33477641
>'BabyDozer 9000XL' with fire selector marks of 'Safe, Murderize, and Maximum OverRape'

hue
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>>33477804(you)
Baiters please go
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>>33476847
I hate that lawyer proofing shit. When I buy a gun, I generally spend a week or two pouring over youtube vids and reading reviews. So I know how that fucking gun works before I even see one IRL.
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>>33476956
>JIDF detected
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>>33477804
Hi antifags. Mom late with the tendies?
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>>33477901
Who's baiting? The world would be better off.
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>>33477970
That's WIDF to you fgt.
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>>33476885
>it would be far less segregated
I think this is one of the worst parts of the gun community. But there is a ton of "I got mine" attitude in the community.
You see it in the 7n6 and M855 bans/attempted ban. You see it with fudds not caring if "assault weapons" are banned.
You even see it when it on /k/ when someone asks if a nugget for X is a good price and someone always chimes in with "I got mine back in 2003 for $35 and blowjob."
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>>33476847
I'd make gun owners stop being cheap shits.
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Make left wingers like guns more, And not just as a temporary reaction to not getting their way either, I want them to be genuinely interested in firearms for their mechanical, Historical, Practical, And fun values.
If all the trust fund babies decided they wanted to go to the range after starbucks we'd no longer have anyone besides (((THEM))) to worry about. And maybe watching the media demonize their new favorite past time would sway them even further our way.

Also make /k/ube worship a religion big enough to rival Christianity and islam.
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>>33478012
>Also make /k/ube worship a religion big enough to rival Christianity and islam
That is your fault Anon. You are not doing enough to spread the word.
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>>33476942
I unironically agree
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>>33477923
But that's because we're autistic /k/ommandos. Budda Fudd and XxB1ACKD3ATHxX aren't.
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>>33478012
>Also make /k/ube worship a religion big enough to rival Christianity and islam.
This
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>>33476847
>I know it's to cover their own ass legally, but I think it ruins the aesthetics of any gun you find it on.
Solution:
Pressed pulp insert with a sticker blocking the magwell and preventing travel of the slide/bolt.
It's cheap, and they can slap a safety sticker on it. Pressed pulp isn't that much more expensive than the tooling costs associated with the current process.
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>>33476917
>Jericho

Mah nigga
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>>33476847
Everyone who owns a gun immediately accepts that their fundamental and most important function is to safeguard against political repression
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>>33476847
I would work to make gun culture less polarizing.

As in, work to abolish the idea that if you own a gun you must be conservative or must be a republican. Or that owning one automatically means you support x or y.
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>>33477641
Wrong.
You cannot intentionally deface any marking noting the serial number, manufacturer, or caliber. Even if you change the caliber.
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I just want all people how like guns to support guns. No more hunting/sporting only bullshit or whatever. Just more gun= more fun please lord
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>>33478681
"I bought it like that from a guy in a parking lot"
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>>33476847

I would remove all fudds and pussyfoot halfway sellouts who don't think 2A is absolute, I would then remove all the machinegun collector elitists who want to protect their "investments" and keep full auto a rich man's hobby, and lastly I would make gun manufacturers significantly more bold in pioneering new designs as well as more civilian consumer friendly.
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The overemphasis on everything being "tactical"
What I mean by that is every gun advertisement nowadays always has a bunch of guys in full military/police gear doing oper8tor things.
Every weapon channel on youtube unironically has tactical, combat solutions, or anything of the sort in their channel name with a couple of fat white dudes with beards, neutral colored Velcro baseball caps, and 5.11 outfits running drills in their backyards with a bunch of expensive gear and toys while royalty free rock music is played in the background during a slew of slow motion camera shots and POV cutaways.
It was even more obvious while I was at SHOT show, I saw nothing but black polymer rifles and pistols at every booth, every gun was tactical, every holster was tactical, every flashlight was tactical, every boot was tactical, all the ammo was tactical, tactical, tactical, tactical.
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>>33476847
I would get rid of all the LARPing about the Second Amendment. If you don't support arming actual militias and fighting another revolution, then you're not actually about the 2A. You're just a hobbyist who's afraid the gov is going to take his toys away.
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>>33477994
>>33476885
These. The root of the modern authoritarian/complacent attitude lies in failing to understand or pay attention to the concept of liberty beyond one's immediate self, or personally taking pleasure in the destruction. Personally I suspect the latter behavior is a an attempt to exert power for the sake of not feeling powerless, but that hypothesis is based only on observations and some bitterness. The modern state of model aviation, for instance, is already buried under at least as much ban weight as firearms ever have been, and that all within the last few years despite no documented accidents and very few, if any, cases of privacy invasion. Nonetheless I see anons here asking which guns are best to shoot down their neighbor's kid's remote control helicopter that they call a "drone". The operator gets two messages. A)guns are bad, and B)anything you enjoy, someone else will try to take from you, if only for the satisfaction of taking it

And it's not just guns and "drones", this problem exists between absolutely every hobby that can't be conducted entirely in private. /o/ and /n/ are also good examples. Drivers and cyclists fight each other with legislation. Swaths of people who only want the government out of their hobby jump at the chance to attack each other.

We are being pitted against each other anons, even within this hobby alone. Liberty has to belong to everyone, not nobody but you. Even if that wasn't morally objectionable it would be impossible. Your will to preserve your interests while making those that make you uncomfortable illegal is only congruent with everyone else's. That sort of fighting is what's driving us towards the dead, inoffensive world of Starbucks and one night stands that we fear. It happened in the cities because of the proximity facilitated it, and we cannot allow the attitude to spread. Liberty is made out of tolerance
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>>33476847
Sticking to your guns when it comes to the following:

SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.
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>>33479532
Well said, anon.


>and i found my new favorite gadsden
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I'd go back to 1990 and tell my fudd grandfather not to destroy all of my dad's "gangster guns" (preban macs and an ingram).
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>>33479686

also: I'd go back and stop him from removing the nazi eagle on his mausers
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>>33476847
Fuck up op
Reading the warning label on the side of the gun saved my life
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>>33478523
I have the mid size. Where the fuck can I get a holster for this thing?
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>>33479696
Please tell me there are not people who do this.
Most people who have guns from Nazi Germany do so because they wanted them and sought them out (Or had relatives bring them back).
I cannot think of someone just buying a gun and then realizing it came from the Third Reich.
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more women realizing a firearm is equalization in metal/wood form. More female gunowners who not only own guns, but train with them as well.

Eventually, you get people who fondly remember their moms showing them how to shoot guns.
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>>33479714
I'm still searching, mine isn't regular carry but I'm thinking about doing a shoulder harness for winter carry under a sport coat or jacket
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>>33479790
Maybe just get a nylon universal holster if you're wearing it under a winter coat. For a sport coat you really need something made of nice leather.
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>>33479745
Taco lady in this is just too damn cute.
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>>33479833
Agreed.
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>>33479833
I love it. Defends her true nationality in face of danger and proceeds to exercise her 2nd Amendment.
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>>33479723
I bought a G98 and my friend found Nazi proof marks on it well after I bought it. Does that count?
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>>33479847
Well, after being raped. Though, the author does really seem to understand well why being armed and well practiced is a very good idea, going as far as to show that karate isn't gonna cut it and that a firearm in the hands of someone can empower them, especially when trained.
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>>33478681
With what evidence do you support this claim?
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>>33476847

>Less fuddery
>Simultaneously, less tacticool bullshit
>Less socially conservative
>Less "Iwishaniggawould" syndrome
>So mainstream that no one bats an eye if you walk to your car with a gun
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>>33479873
that's the difference between people who mock and "not get it" and people who "prepare" and get a gun and train with it before the crime happens to them. The difference is one will probably go through the experience while the other might not.

Of course there's a line between preparing and going off the fucking cliff with prepping.
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>>33476847
>change anything about gun culture

faggot old guys at the range that give unsolicited advised.

guns aren't really that complicated to figure out, but for some reason every one of those guys feels like they need to "mentor" some stranger they have never met before.

it's one thing to own guns, and another altogether to master all the details and ins and outs, but ffs everybody tries to be an expert, and it comes off as obnoxious.
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>>33479848
Guess it does. Interesting find. I figured most of the G98s were phased out but some reserve could have probably ended up with them, or later in the war it was put back into service and re-stamped.

But if someone's opposed to buying a gun specifically from Nazi Germany, chances are they're ignorant enough to write off all guns from Germany from any period.
Maybe the type of person who thinks "If it ain't American, I don't want it."
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>>33479532
Capped.
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>>33477405

I'd want everyone to have a pistol that shoots keyholders.
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>>33479714
aliengear makes them for the magnum research baby desert eagle, so they fit

or you could buy the iwi owb holster

otherwise, you might be able to find a maker that will do a leather/kydex custom fit.

i'd avoid universal fits
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>>33478090
>>33476942
i sense a helicopter ride in (you)r futures
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>>33479979
>t.fudd
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>>33479847
Source?
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No tactical larping unless you look /fit/
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>>33476847
I wish we could just treat guns equally in general and see them for what they are, shit on them if they've got shit qc, but none of that implied labeling bullshit.
>why are *insert subject*fags so retarded?
>I don't want to be associated with *insert subject*fags
>haha you have a *insert model* what a fucking cocksucker
>I have x, all y's can be taken away for all I care
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I want them to go viral. Sure, you'd get idiots in the hobby, but we already HAVE idiots. I want white basic bitches posing in yoga pants and starbucks in the gym mirror, beta cucks buying the same model as the object of their affection, white-knights refusing to cc anything that isn't a revolver because "muh honor." Make it a part of consumer culture. 9mm Luger for sale at gas stations, pick up some 5.56 at Walgreens after you drop Johnny off for school, swap 12 gauge loadings with your barber.

The 2nd Amendment is a right, as it should be, but I want it to be so integral to American culture that we could not imagine restricting it.
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>>33481279
THIS!
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I wish every manufacturer didn't feel the need to release a striker fired polymer handgun + their own flavor of AR. I mean, competition is good, but damn... I just want something new...
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>>33481279
THIS!
Fucking 9mm at Walgreens would be the tits.
I already seek out other gun people that don't necessarily seem like gun people (I find coworkers, cashiers, fellow people on buses, planes, trains, people on the street, etc.) and try to let them know that there are far more of us than most people think.

I believe knowledge that we aren't a minority is the key.
>>33481960
Yep.
More variation In what's sold.
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>>33478012
I'm slowly but surely getting all my left wing millennial friends to like guns
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>>33479847
Sauce?
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I want to end gun virtue signaling
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>>33479532
Truth.
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>>33483721
That's nice. But it won't change the way they vote and you know it.
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>>33476847
There is a fine line between refined taste and asshole snobbery. The gun culture has yet to figure out where that line is
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>>33476847
>If you could change anything about gun culture in America today, what would it be?
Liberals embracing the ability to effectively defend yourself (and thus firearms ownership as a fundamental human right).
If the Democratic Party would accept that gun control will never happen and wouldn't fix violent crime in America anyway (IE actually accept reality) and that gun control os a stupid hill to die on, they would have a supermajority in the US government.
As someone whose state and local government is full of pro-gun Dems (literally everyone here is pro-gun), they're pretty based.
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>>33478012
You know this would lead to 500 dollar mosins... "It's entry level AND made by based commies? Where can I buy 5?"
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I would completely remove all military association with gun ownership.

Most people usually associate being a huge militaryfag alongside being into guns. The same goes for cop culture.

I'm here just because I like guns. I don't identify with 90% of what you people are into, but other people will forever think I am.
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>>33484091
>he doesn't realize that in a few years Mosins are gonna be $500 anyway
/k/ memeing is to blame, fyi
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>>33483951
Eh I don't really care. None of them that I know of cared for Hillary at all, except for my illegal friends who now run the risk of being deported. Some actually favored Trump to Hilary.
I'd rather them vote for a halfway ok Democrat or a Third Party candidate than a Hilary or whatever the next abomination is.
I didn't vote for Trump either, I can't stand the Democrat/Republican dick waving contest our political system enjoys so much.
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>>33483963
I'm socially liberal, I really don't hate the Dems much except for their gun control. And rampant corruption. Not endorsing them but aside from guns I see them as no worse than Republicans.
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>>33478951
Kek

Came her to post this
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>>33478061
You try telling people in the bible belt that you worship a giant cube made out of guns literally called the death cube and tell me how that goes. I'd rather not be beheaded by christfags for not worshipping some bearded asshole wearing a bath robe.
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>>33476847
>wish manufacturers would stop turning their guns into billboards.

This is exactly why I bought an 80's Italian made Beretta
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>>33484112
Same. I'm a skateboarding punk fan, also a photography major. I by no means fit into the typical gun stereotype, nor do I really want to. I hate how simply wanting the government to back the fuck away from my fundamental rights somehow entails that I'm supposed to drive a big ass truck, flying American flags everywhere and support military action and all that other Walmart shopper shit.
Like fuck, I just love guns...
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>>33477405
Holy shit, doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in the police
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>>33484690
It's literally only Ruger that does that.
I wish they wouldn't because seeing "pls dont sue us t. ruger" triggers me.
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