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>>33472948
That is not a German-applied serial number. Their serials always have the letter block AFTER the serial number, not before, and it is marked on the root of the handle, not the shaft.

>>33472968
any idea what it is then?

the firing pin is definitely german

>>33472968
>>33473028
also that isnt a serial allegedly but a batch number or something I heard

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>>33473028
>>33473045
Here's an index of Kar.98k with reference images. Check out all the 1944 Mauser Werke rifles and see how many have "batch numbers" on the upward-facing side of the bolt handle shaft.
http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?45-Picture-Reference-Index

>>33473105
im not saying your wrong thats just what I was told. If its not german you have any idea what it is? ill read through those tommorow probably but its fairly late here right now.

>>33472948
germans serializd their bolts on the flat part at the very base of the handle, not the rod part like that picture shown

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>>33473105
>If its not german you have any idea what it is?
It is probably Yugoslavian.

Does this serial number otherwise match the one on the receiver ring? Is there another serial number in the correct spot on the bolt handle root?

>>33473206
the "serial" on the bolt is nowhere else to be seen on the gun. Everything else on the gun is matching. Also the firing pin looks to be commied As 7943 was electrostenciled on it

>>33473253
7394*

T. Dyslexic

>>33473206
Also on the flip side of the pic it says 643 I believe. And those are the only markings on the bolt. Neither are in typical german spots

Fuck it's a yugo bolt innit

>>33473443
A yugo bolt wouldn't fit in a k98, unless op was wrong about the model of rifle. Yugos use an intermediate action and the bolt would be too short in a k98 variant

>>33473541
yugos captured and renumbered K98s

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>>33473443
Or Russian-capture refurb. Sorry bro.

>>33473541
Yugoslavian Mod.98/48 AKA Mod.98N are Yugo-rebuilt Kar.98k. Yugoslavian M24/52C are re-built Vz.24s and as such are also standard-length.

http://jamesdjulia.com/item/2101-396/

unf

>>33473556
>>33473556
Nah its got the original finish and all the numbers match on it aside that dang bolt.
>>33473541
Nah its definitely a k98, so maybe it's not a yugo bolt. I just have no idea what the fuck the bolt is then. If it got sent back to a factory at some point could it have gotten a new bolt from there if it was broken/missing?

>>33473717
>Nah its got the original finish and all the numbers match on it aside that dang bolt.
I mean the bolt may have come from a Russian-captured refurb. I think it's more likely a Yugo 98/48 refurb tho.

Someone probably found Grandpa's bring-back in a closet but couldn't find the original bolt so they bought one on the internet.

>Someone probably found Grandpa's bring-back in a closet but couldn't find the original bolt so they bought one on the internet.
Yeah I'm leaning towards this now 2bh. I have a rc as well as this one and the RC has a proper k98 bolt where as this looks yugo. I don't know why it has a German firing pin in it but w/e.

>>33473889
>I don't know why it has a German firing pin in it but w/e.
This bolt is almost certainly German-made, just scrubbed. Yugo-made bolts (M24, M48) are all intermediate-length and wouldn't fit in a Kar.98k.

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>>33473957
Shouldn't there have been markings there then (in pic)

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>>33473632
You should make a bid. It's worth the money.

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>>33474056
>Shouldn't there have been markings there then (in pic)
That's what "scrubbed" means. There were markings there, but they were erased.
>pic related

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>mas 36 Vietcong bring back
>looks old and has rust on exterior
>bore evidently is nice and no import marks
>around 400

would it be worth to snag this from the shop? I live in an apartment so I can't do any crazy cleaning jobs like electrolysis. and the stock is very dark relative to other mas 36 pictures I have seen.

>>33474262
This makes the most sense for it 2bh. It came with a bunch of ancient yugo ammo as well. Thanks

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Yugo M48 Scope Mount Question
I have recently obtained a Yugoslavian M48 from one of my local stores at a decent price. It is all matching with a beautiful looking stock but the problem that I have with it is I bought with with a possible scope mount (may not be one?) and was wondering if anyone has ever seen one of these before. All it is is two steel pegs put into the receiver with silver solder around it, almost like a perfect square. After doing research, my brother and I have not found anything like this before. We thought it was proprietary for a while (and it might still be). We did research on Zrak scopes, weaver scopes, German turret mounts and more but none of these look right. We brought it to a gun smith and he also has no idea what it could be. He thought that someone soldered a scope on then took it off when he was selling the rifle. I am really looking to see what scope will fit on it with these steel pegs. I can take more pictures if they are requested.

>>33474685
How much rust? Check and double check the bore. Was it converted to something besides 7.5 French? Unless it has documentation or some other proof, it's to be considered not a bring back.

Every time someone says K98 when they mean Kar98k I die a little inside.

A k98 is a polish rifle.

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>>33474685
Show pics before you mess with it.

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>>33476461
What all can you tell me about mine?

>>33476923
Never used dropped once

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>>33476923
It was made in 1952.
>>33477441
hurrrrr

>>33476923
Looks like it was cobbled together in a shed like the rest of them.

>people actually think the MAS series of rifles were aesthetic

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>>33477930
Some people just have shit tastes.

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>>33477930
>Some people think they aren't.
I don't associate with proles.

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Bros what can I use to clean the stock up on this Spanish M1916? Someone suggested some brass wool for the metal parts so I'm going to go find some shortly.

>>33478659
A damp rag and warm water. Then a dry rag (or cloth diaper if you have them) to dry.

>>33473957
>This bolt is almost certainly German-made, just scrubbed. Yugo-made bolts (M24, M48) are all intermediate-length and wouldn't fit in a Kar.98k.
Are you fucking retarded or just seriously autistic? When the anon saI'd "it's a Yugoslavia bolt, innit?" he means a Yugoslav'd K98k bolt.

>>33478915
>When the anon saI'd "it's a Yugoslavia bolt, innit?" he means a Yugoslav'd K98k bolt.
He couldn't even tell the difference between a German-serial'ed Kar.98k bolt and a Yugo-serialed Kar.98k bolt. I'm not the retard here.

>>33478659
have you fired it yet? I just found some very faint numbers on the bolt of mine and they don't match the receiver so I don't know if I should just try it or get the headspace checked first

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>>33478659
Brass or bronze #0000 wool is best (go to paint and hobby stores in your area), and gun oil.

For the stock use some warm water and a soft cloth or sponge; just enough water on the sponge to make it damp but not sodden.

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Just picked up a Gew 98 (Rat-fucked by the Turks) and a Yugo M24/47 with 60 rounds for $600. How'd I do?

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>>33480399
Turk Gew 98

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>>33480399
Yugo M24/47.

>>33472948
>>33480399
>>33480422

This many replies and now 2 sets of dubs and that bolt still hasn't been in anyone's ass.

It's like I don't even know you anymore, /k/

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>>33480399
You did alright. Not the greatest deal around but you didn't get fucked and the rifles look pretty nice.

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>>33480399
>Just picked up a Gew 98 (Rat-fucked by the Turks) and a Yugo M24/47 with 60 rounds for $600. How'd I do?
Bretty gud; you came out at least $100 ahead. People rag on Turkish rifles too much IMO. How many parts are still matching? The beech stock is correct for a 1918 Gew.98; looks like a Turk cleaning rod and they put a wire loop in the rear sling stud.

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>>33480399
I recently picked up a Turk 1893 rebuild, and a Yugo M48 (all milled not the later versions) both in good condition with cleaning rods clean bores and a bunch of 8mm clips for around 700. The M48 even had a correct sling.

It was fair, but not great, I just wasn't willing to gamble on gunbroker shit.

>>33479029
Have not. I was going to break it down and clean everything first. My numbers don't match either, so I'm unsure if I should take it to a gunsmith or not. I'm probably just gonna let er rip.

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>>33480535
Receiver/barrel, sights, ejector box all match. Stock parts are mismatched but all German. Bolt body is scrubbed but there's imperial proof marks left and the rest of the bolt parts are Czech.

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>>33481238
>the rest of the bolt parts are Czech
You'll see that in a lot of Turk'ed Gew.88s and 98s; they ordered a ton of replacement parts from CZ-Brno in the mid-1920s (along with buying up a bunch of Czech-used Gew.98s, Vz.98s, and Vz.98/22 rifles).

You have a nice pair there.

I got a M95 today that has the serial 1111. I thought that was kinda funny.
Do Type 99s have import marks and if so where would i find them, i cant seem to find them anywhere on mine.

>>33482213
>Do Type 99s have import marks and if so where would i find them
Probably on the barrel, if it's going to have one at all. I'd wager 99% of Arisaka T99s came to the US as pre-1968 imports or as bring-backs, mostly the latter.

>>33482237
Thats what i figured.

>>33482213
Most of the 99s were GI bring backs.

Incidentally, this is also why so many of them are bubba'd, rusted, missing components, or all three.

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>>33482213
Very few Type 99s will have an import mark and those would have all come from China in the 1980s. They are the exception to the rule.

>tfw need a Hoten made Type 99

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Help. I can't stop buying graveyard milsurps

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>>33482751
Surplus trains don't come with brakes.

>>33480683
let us know if you die so I know whether to try mine or not
but really. be safe

>>33482888
Czeching those trips.

Once I clean it up I'll shoot it and report in one of these threads. I reload my ammo and I have a nice local brass dealer who makes 7mm Mauser brass from .270 brass, so I'll load up some light loads and send em down range. Hopefully I don't die.

>>33472948
Hi if no one has answered yet it is a Yugo refurb bolt off a M98/48 (K98's the Yugoslavs refurbished and commonly rebarreled after the war)

>>33482876
What Mauser should I get next?

>>33483151
how about you just give me one of the 42 mausers you already have

>>33472948
>Who knows anything about this bolt edition?
yugo

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>>33483151
I forget what you have already,
>Kar.98
>Yugo M24/47
>Peruvian 1891
Were there more?

Swedes are cheap right now. Little M98 carbines (like Dutch Police contract) are super cute and sometimes come in off-the-shelf calibers like .30-'06 and 7.62NATO.

>>33483151
What Mausers do you currently have

>>33483172
I have 3 Mausers, 7 if you count Mauser inspired rifles.
>>33483233
Nope that's all of them. And I have been thinking about something in 6.5 Swede. Love those 6.5 calibers.

Might count as milsurp: I needed a couple extra uniforms for some training shit coming up, picked up some fleabay OCP tops, any way to make that shit slightly brighter than it is now? Really washed out

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>>33483270
>Love those 6.5 calibers.
You could also try to find an un-converted Mauser-Vergueiro M1904 in 6.5x58mm Portuguese. It'd fit nicely with your Mannlicher-Shoenauer M1903.

>>33475932
That's a custom job bro. You will never find a comparable mount for those pegs. Have the gunsmith sand down the pegs and drill/tap a new mount.

>>33483305
>>33457287

>>33483329
I'd love one of those. Also apparently the Portuguese had a Mannlicher.

After shooting, how do you guys clean the barrel?

I usually run wet (with Hoppes no 9 or ballistol) patches down the barrel until the wet patches come out somewhat clear, then run dry patches down the barrel until the dry patches are (as close as I can get it to) clean. I always go down the barrel in the direction the bullet travelled.

Is this a good way to clean or am I going to fuck something up? I've only done this 4 times now (once after each range trip) and have fired a total of ~160 rounds out of the enfield I clean with this method.

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>>33483934
You could make a collection of 6.5mm military rifles from Europe.
>Norwegian Krags
>Swedish & Luxembourgian Mausers
>Romanian, Dutch &Portuguese Mannlichers
>Italian Carcanos
>Greek Mannlicher-Schoenauers

There was almost a Chinese-contract Mauser in 6.8x58mm with an extra-long barrel. In the end all 12,000 were all made with Gew.98-length barrels, and then they sat in Germany so long waiting for payment they were expropriated by the German Army for WW1 and converted to 8x57mm.

>>33484280
>Could
Oh I intend to. Those Romanians are gonna be a tough nut to crack though.

>>33483997
I usually start with one pass of a brass brush soaked in hoppes. Then, if I've shot a ton that trip, a wet patch. Then dry patches until clean, it usually takes 3 dry patches. Then just clean the bolt face and tip of the firing pin with several hoppes. Dry it then reoil the bolt/action and done.

>>33484416
>Several
supposed to be some

>>33478064

Says the guy who whores the same two images of his shitty rifles on /k/

Fuck off.

>>33484416
>>33484426
I guess I'm cleaning way too much then?

>>33484565
Nah, I clean after every trip, the procedure has more steps if I waste more bullets during the trip. Just don't put a brush on and scrub the hell out of it and you should be fine.

>>33484595
I mean I'm using way too much solvent right?

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>>33484446
>only two images

>>33484615
If you get it all out of the gun you should be fine.

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>>33475932
If I were you I'd just get rid of the mystery pegs and build a M48 sniper clone since the receiver was already bubba'd.

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>>33484446
Post some OC then boss.

K31 soon komrades

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>>33486936
Neat. Hope you like it.

got called racist in greggs earlier lads

>>33488686
Maybe you should stop being white then.

I don't know where Gregg's is

Lost a bid on a used 1903 barrel made in the 30s will both sights on it

Feels bad man. 270+change sounds fair. Maybe i was just being cheap.

>>33489619
Yeah you were being cheap, but if that's all you wanted to spend then what else can you do? Never bid more than you're willing to spend. You might not always win, but you'll never overpay.

There is a pretty nice Schmidt-Rubin made in 1892 on my local armslist for $300. Would it be worth a buy?

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/632974244

Is this rifle a decent enough reproduction of a 1903a4 for the cash or should I continue to look around?

>>33489976
It won't look like a real A4 from any sort of distance. Imho, that was worth a lot more in it's original M1903 form.

Surprising, real A4 snipers aren't that expensive as most other snipers are, even for it being American.

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>>33490011
I've been trying to find one. I know I can get a reproduction scope easily enough and I have 1903a3.

>>33490030
Doesn't Gibbs still make some repros on former drill rifle receivers?

Keep your A3 original.

>>33490096
I saw their website and creedmoor does repros as well. I would just need to save a bit more for those.

>>33490030
>I have 1903a3.
Pic not related, I hope, because that's not an 03A3. It'd be a sin to scope a straight M1903.

>>33490230
Yeah I realized I put the wrong 03 in the picture after I posted.

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>>33472948
Picked up an Israeli Mauser last week. For $250, I'm pretty happy

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>>33491000
Czech'ed. Nice gat get.

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>>33491000
Pretty hard deal to beat.

Looking to get a No.4 Mk1 Enfield pretty soon. Where is the best place to get ammo?

>>33474241
are the two horns screwed to the sides of the receiver the clip guides?

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Thanks to the anon who brought up the OWS cracked stock Mausers last Friday.

Picked mine up today and haven't cleaned it at all yet but pretty stoked.

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Does anyone want a Swedish Mauser bayonet? I've had this Landstormen marked one for a few years now and I'm not interested in it.

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>>33492580
I bought it for my AG-42B, but it never fit on it. Something was wrong with that rifle as it never let me put either of the two bayonets I had on it.

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>>33492580
Am interested. How much?

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>>33492414
Yes, it's a Russian contract for 1915.

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>>33492641
I was thinking $85 + shipping, which is the going rate for one that is complete with frog (which this one has) and this one is an early one and Landstormen marked so I think that's fair.

You can contact me at [email protected].

It's the one on the bottom, not the nasty one on top. I don't own that nasty one anymore.

>>33484280
>>No glorious Ljungmann though Sweden included

For shame

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Finally got the rifle attachment for my bayonet.

Dude who mailed the rifle said he threw extras into the box

so for $625 i got
One walnut stocked all matching perfect bore rifle
Two of the stupidest stripper clips i've ever seen
The sling to the rifle
Some oil bottle i assume is swiss
One FR-8 sling
One Spanish mauser sling
and two Swedish mauser slings w/ clippy


Not being a stingy bastard paid off today.

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>>33493344
And this sweet ass crest.

Is there another thread or is the whole site slow tonight?

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>>33493416
its friday night what do you expect.

outside the obvious virgin neckbeard comments

>>33493440
Friday has always been a busier night, in my experience.

>>33493416
we're all out socializing on friday night an not posting on 4chan like pathetic losers

>>33493318
They're interesting and a range trolling gun (brass goes every direction forward and the muzzle break is loud as fuck), but that's pretty much it.
>>33493344
So a $100 worth of slings?

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>>33492769
I'll keep it in mind, thanks. There's an auction coming up in a week that I need to save money for.

>>33493711
>So a $100 worth of slings?
and like $40 of stripper clips. These suckers seem to be expensive.


I need to find some GP11 now

>>33493799
>why I'm selling the bayonet
lol
>>33493830
Are they really $20 apiece now? And my dad was calling me crazy for spending like $9 or $10 for 3 of them about 5 years ago.

>>33493871
>Are they really $20 apiece now?
I see a few at $17 on certain auction sites. But any legit store has them for more. LibertyTree is sold out at $24/ea. I'll probably buy one of those plastic repros if i ever decide to go all autistic with clip loading.

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>New shipment of 92s' from AIM look brand new
>decide I want one
>put mosin on armslist for a ftf sale for a very fair price
>get lots of replys "WILL YOU SHIP"
>get none from anyone local
>mfw

>>33493992
Already sold out.

>>33494038
Yeah I saw. I knew I should have just bought one. They looked so damn good. Oh well.

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I have a MIGHTY NEED to go to the range

>>33494253
As do I. And in approximately 10 hours I will satiate said need. Also gonna have a lovely dinner afterwords.

>>33491000
Where the fuck do you people live that you can get a Mauser, even an Israeli for $250? Here(North East) that rifle would easily sell for over $500.

>>33493344
Wanna offload that Spanish Mauser sling?

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>>33496168
Sure. send me a mail [email protected]


This is actually my second extra Spanish sling. ill let you decide your fav

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>>33496542
That bench looks familiar.

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>>33491091
>>33492053
>>33495672
I'd been searching for around 4 months and another trip on here gave me the contact info of a tiny little gunshop in Colorado who had one. It was extremely lucky.

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>>33498663
That is a really nice one; looks un-issued.

Found a MAS 36 for 400 USD, condition is immaculate. Is 7.5 common enough to make shooting it a reasonable possibility, or is that why it's in perfect condition?

Also found an unmarked Yugo m48 for 300 which I've been looking for for a while and seems reasonable.

>>33498764
Rguns has m48As crest and all for 295

You know what really sucks? Getting a tiny fucking rock stuck inside the trigger of my rifle. I spent 20 minutes at the range today trying to find out why my Mas 36 wouldn't reset the trigger. Lo and behold, a fucking pebble kept the trigger from moving all the way forward, preventing a reset.

>>33499017
is this a new meme?
>A FUCKING ROCK

>>33499017
also can I ask how did the pebble get in there?

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>>33499080
I have no fucking clue. But that's what it was. At first I thought I broke a spring. Glad I didn't.

In other news, my wife loves her Type 38.

1895 for 170 dollars, should I? I'm not smart enough to know exactly which it is, just says "Budapest 95" on the barrel, at pawn shop where it's labeled as "unknown rifle".

Also what I assume is a Yugo 24/47 for 250. Bore looks like a black hole though, literally no reflection, is that typical of these super old rifles? My 1903 is dark, but not this dark.

>>33499133
>finally posted her
I can't see her face obviously but I feel like she's a qt. I simultaneously wish I was you and wish I was her so I could have a husband who gives me carbines

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>>33499133
That's a nice line-up.

>>33499154
>"Budapest 95
Mannlicher M1895 made at F.E.G. in Hungary. That's a decent price if it hasn't been bubba'ed and the serial numbers match. A really good price if it hasn't been converted to 8x56mmR.
http://www.hungariae.com/Mann95.htm
>Also what I assume is a Yugo 24/47 for 250. >Bore looks like a black hole though, literally no reflection, is that typical of these super old rifles?
Is it just dirty or actually corroded? Can you see the edges of the lands and grooves?

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>>33499248
Yeah I had a lot to test. I'm genuinely upset I forgot my Winchester at home though.

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>>33499473
How did the Peruvian do? I've yet to shoot my 1891.

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>>33496550
I have no idea where this thing came from. I was actually going to redo the slats this year.

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>>33499473
How's the 49?

>kitty litter box full of ammo
You don't have an ammo box? lol

>>33499810
Smooth, and pleasant to shoot. I was hoping it'd be more accurate but I didn't really shoot for accuracy. Also I found out I do not need a new magazine spring. Apparently when I tried loading it before I fucked something up because the last round didn't want to chamber. But today it had no issues. Definitely makes me rethink my dislike of Mausers though.

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I paid too much for this, but I'm happy with it.

>>33499997
49 is accurate and aside from the 400lbs trigger very nice.
>Kitty litter box
Hey they're great. They have a heavy duty handle and I use my old ones to hold my different brass, or things like screws, nails, pipe fittings, Etc. Better than just throwing them away.

$1500 clams confirmed for taxes (had 2000 but jewed by obongo care "penalty")

What surp should i splurge on? May get a few parts kits, i just love SMGs

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God I love milsurp bolt-action threads

Is it normal for my Mosin Nagant M38 to be in M44 furniture? All the serials match

>>33500388
It's not that unusual, no.

>>33500278
id say buy a ljungman but if you get one then Im gonna have a even more difficult time finding one.

What's a reasonable price for an FN 49 in .308/7.62x51?

I assume I'll have to get an argentinian one.

>>33500388
https://youtu.be/KfY5KtvJ6m8?t=319

disclaimer: not saying this is a good source, just linking for the sake of it

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>>33500042
Mauser sights are generally not conducive to consistent sight picture IMO. It's that pyramid of a front sight blade.

>>33501131
Well I was standing, using PPU store bought ammo, firing it without really trying. So it might be me, might be the ammo, or maybe the gun isn't that accurate. I'll do formal accuracy testing later.

>>33500808
Minimum $800 these days

>>33500808
Around $1200+ from what I've seen.

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Not sure what to take to range tomorrow, this or my garand. Tough choices yo.

>>33501669
Por que no Las dos?

>>33499473
Is that an M95 Stutzen ? Does it like the PPU ammo?

also
>Tidy Cats master race

>>33501680
Because I am already taking a saiga, Henry .44mag, yugo sks, p38, and makarov. Only got room for one more.

>>33501681
Don't know if it was a Stutzen since they got converted. But it is a carbine. Feeds PPU just fine but.... Well the front sight on mine is super loose. It flew off after 4 shots today. So accuracy I have no idea about. I just wanted to function test it.

Most of today was just testing and enjoying some range time with my wife.

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Will probably take the garand because it's been a long time since I last shot it.

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>>33501846
I honestly can't remember the last time I shot mine.

>>33501745
I have a nice carbine from Big 5 I got about 15 years ago and also a long rifle I actually bought through the mail without an FFL since it's a pre-1898 (both in x56).

I have a total of 2 clips for these things from a box of the 1938 Nazi ammo.
Anybody know where I might find more?

>>33501908
christ you could use that thing to shave

>>33501908
Hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng

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>>33501846
>>33501908
>mfw Its the rifle I literally shoot the most

Getting 1200 back from my taxes this year, What should I get /msg/? Looking to get one of these
>Aussie No.1 MkIII with a mag cut off
>Colombian Mauser in .30-Govt. 1906
>Spanish M43 Mauser
>Spanish Air Force M44 Mauser
One of these or keeping and waiting about a month to get an LRB M14

>>33502222
CHEC....Wait wait wait, Hipster With a Barrel Knife? Post proofs you crippled god. I want to believe ;__;

>>33502249
I'd shoot it more if I had more ammo. I only have 2 tins left from the CMP. And I don't have room or money to start reloading. So I don't shoot much.

>>33502482
New Gas Plug + Golden Bear my friend

>>33502509
Yeah I am planning on doing that when I run out of the surplus I have.

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>>33502509
I wanted to get that gas plug but it won't take a bayonet. This shouldn't bother as much as it does, but it do.

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>>33502849
Then get an M1 Bayonet and use that instead of the M5? I would be lying if It didnt bother me a little bit but I ended up getting a Garand Gear plug because I dont have an M5 Bayo

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>>33502849

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>>33502883
>M1 Bayonet
That is a wonderful ideal. I didn't know the entire 1905-m1 series bayo could fit on the garand. I thought it was m5 or bust

>>33503034
STOP POSTING YOUR FUCKING WINCHESTER YOU MAKE ME MORE SAD EVERYTIME I SEE IT FUCK
>tfw no M1905 bayo for my M1
>or my ARs
>or my 1903s

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>>33503082
I.. I'm sorry anon. I just can't do that. I have everything to make her whole but the right heel.

New to this - can someone explain to me why the hell are you bidding before the end of the auction?

Is there something I'm missing as to why someone would literally want the price to go up?

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Look what followed me home today.

200 bucks at a fucking pawn shop. All matching #'s and came with a bayonet.

>>33503504
8x56?

also post bayonet pls

>>33503504
Whats with the hype for the M95 recently? I fucking hated mine

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>>33503524
yea its got the S on it so its 8x56

I unfortunately dont know much about the bayonet. But it came free with the gun so I was like fuck it. It takes a LOT of force to get it on and even more to get it off so im skeptical

>>33503504
real matching or electropenciled and lined out stock?

>>33503574
well for $200 you really cant go wrong

>>33503585
yea naw them numbers are in there good

I have an opportunity to buy a 1940 Walther P38 with bakalite grips for $650 comes with a mag and leather holster stamped with the swastika is this a good buy?

>>33503609
yeah thats a great deal 2bh

>>33503627
it's been eating away at me all day. The previous owner dropped it off with a pre war Luger PO8 priced at 2,500 both guns in great condition at a cursory glance. Holy fuck I want a P38

>>33503654
is it a p38 frame? you need to do your homework on this shit, lots of post war parts were rebuilt on alloy P1 frames following the war. if its a ww2 gun and the numbers match thats a decent buy, depends on the maker, year, condition

>>33503683
>thats a decent buy,

in 2009. Commie'd p38s are like 650 now

>>33501908
>>33501908
why did you clearcoat

>>33501709
>taking slavshit over a garand
>in america

>>33500388
yes, its actually more common for all the refurbs since they stopped making M38 stocks after switching production to the M44. finding M38s in actual M38 stocks is actually somewhat uncommon

>>33503683
As far as I can tell it's matching frame and slide it's stamped 1940 slide and frame and has the same proof markings looked like an eagle 480 mark slide and frame

>>33499133
wtf you found a wife that likes milsurp and has her own Type 38? HOW

>>33499133
HOLY SHIT HE POSTED WIFE DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE ASKED HIM TO POST WIFE I ALWAYS SAY POST WIFE POST WIFE FINALLY HE DID IT!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHhAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I AM KING OF THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>33502197
>>33502222
It was a graduation (from bootcamp) present from my dad.
>>33502249
I don't shoot my American stuff much. Too boring.
>>33503497
Sometimes no one else bids. Sometimes you can intimidate other buyers by staking the first claim. Neither of these usually happens but it can. Besides, if you don't bid more than you're willing to spend, it doesn't matter when you bid. You'll either win, or you won't.
>>33503727
Came like that. It's a parts gun anyways.
>>33503860
She used to be anti gun as fuck. But since we've been together over 13 years, she's now a enthusiast and a pretty good shot. All my carbines are technically hers.

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>>33503950
>tfw you slowly converted an anti gunner

>>33503990
Yeah it's not hard. All you have to do is not be a dick.

>>33501669
How exactly do i sight in the PU scope.

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>>33504049
Are you admitting to being a giant pussy?

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>>33504326
No, just giving some advice. The best way to get people to see things your way and be on your side is yo be likeable. Logic and reason rarely sway people when you get down to it. People will judge their personal experiences above any evidence to the contrary. So be the best experience you can when you want to convince someone to your side. People are less likely to fuck you when they like you.

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>>33503950
>Sometimes no one else bids.
Half of the guns I've won at auction have been like that. Pic related.

The other half I've either sniped at the end or had someone try to do that on the gun I want. lol

>>33504549
I usually just hit Buy it Now whenever it's an option.

>>33502509
168 grain Golden Bear is actually fine to shoot out of a Garand with the USGI gas plug.

http://www.garandgear.com/m1-garand-ammunition

>>33502509
American Eagle makes a "Garand safe!" 30.06 in 20-round boxes emblazoned with an M1 on them, though I personally can't vouch for whether or not it's actually safe.

>love old gats
>literally get like 1 foot groups or worse at 50 yards with irons, using a fucking sandbag at bench

I'm just horrible and it kinda takes the fun out of the whole thing. I literally can't fucking see shit even with my glasses. Does everyone else have super eyes or something? I can't even fathom how people hit bullseyes at 200 yards with irons.

>tfw picked wrong hobby

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Im running low on my turkish surplus fer my nazi mauser.

Ive seen PPU 8mm in both 198gr and i think 170 something or other. Which is better, or who makes good, easy cheap reliable modern loads of 8mm?

>>33506054
Some people suck at driving, some people suck at computers, some people can't ride a bike, some people can't shoot.

If you've practiced your sight picture and practiced your trigger pull and at least once shot a gun that's accurate so you know it's you, maybe you just suck at shooting? The thing is though, if the sights are lined up and you don't flinch it's hard to suck at shooting off a benchrest so maybe you need to practice.

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>>33506054
Glasses and practice. I'm basically blind in my right eye (20/400) and my left eye isn't exactly great (20/55 or something). It's not hard if you have glasses and practice.

What's your fav French rifle?

>>33506129
MAS49
A
S
4
9

Now I just need to own one.

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>>33506129
So many good ones to pick....

But I'm gonna say the Lebel. It's a shitty rifle but damned if it isn't fun.

>>33506134
Is the MAS 36 just a compromise?

>>33506134
I might get rid of one of mine if you have something you want to trade.

>>33506094
>>33506111

Maybe it is just practice. But the thing is, I honestly don't know what the fuck to do to practice. I go to the range, put up a target and blast away. I don't really know how to measure my progress when my shots are so bad it's not even worth measuring. And now I don't even really like going because I feel like it's pointless.

Plus I can't see shit until a cease fire. The target is so small even at 50yds that there's no way I can keep aiming at the same point between shots. I just don't see how it's possible. I shoot, the rifle moves, and then I reaquire the target but I'm aiming at a tiny blur. I just don't understand what the fuck people are doing differently.

now I'm just rambling because I'm super butthurt about this and I don't have any hasgun friends to show me what the fuck to do and how to shoot properly. I'm worried if I spent the money on a new gun with a nice scope I'd be terrible at that too. The only gun I do """"okay"""" with is my AR with peep sights, that I'm at least consistently on paper with.

>>33506141
Was gonna bid on
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/633032130
but.. -> >>33503497

>>33506152
I can't imagine I have anything you'd want, they're getting pretty expensive these days aren't they?

I should buy a berthier.
The only french fry gun i have is a mas36 that was easily Vietnam era.

am i an faggot if i get the p-64 as my first fun?

>>33506158
Get glasses if you aren't currently corrected to 20/20 or you know, something close to that. If you can't see shit you'll never be a decent shot because you'll never know where you're aiming.
Practice your sight picture. Just point the empty gun at something on a wall on the other side of the room and practice aligning the sights on it. Really concentrate on getting the alignment exactly the same each time. If you aren't aligning the sights exactly the same each time you'll never be a decent shot because you'll never aim the gun at the same point.
Practice your trigger squeeze. Dry fire, get snap caps, whatever you prefer, but practice pulling the trigger while aiming. Do it a lot. If you have a semi-auto and one (1) friend you can have them cycle the action for you after every "shot" to mimic the semiautomatic firing sequence. Make sure you aren't anticipating the hammer or flinching; the best shots are often those that "surprise" you. Just align the sights perfectly, aim at the target as best you can (you're going to wobble, it's a fact), and slowly pull the trigger. You'll be far more accurate with a perfect sight alignment and a perfect slow trigger pull done at any old random time as you wobble around the target than you will if you try to rush your trigger pull right as the sights cross the bullseye.
If you can, find some BLM/NF land with nobody else on it so you can go shoot by yourself at your own pace without a bunch of teenagers and fudds around.
Practice. Unless you are blind, have alzheimers, or no spatial sense, you can get better.

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Ive been seeing a lot of new photos and posters in these milsurp thread over the past few weeks.

makes me damn proud. I was starting to worry that the AR15 zombie horde had bitten every gun toting American except for me, /k/aptbilly and nugget collector.

>been wanting a m95
>for some reason there were a shit ton of bidders
>now there aren't as many
>now my job is at risk in 2 months

this is some bullshit I swear.

>>33503504
>>33503574
Oh i forgot to add. where can I find a sling for this thing?

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>>33506285

I already wear glasses. I feel like even when I get a new prescription I still have inferior vision.

I'm also cross eye dominant. I tried shooting lefthanded but it just feels weird as fuck and borderline dangerous. My right arm is weak enough as it is, that's why I shoot at bench with a rest 95% of the time (inb4 do pushups). But maybe next time I convince myself to go to the range I'll try bench shooting with my left eye.

Honestly I still have no idea what I should be doing once I'm actually at the range. The fact remains that I just can't see the damn target beyond it being a tiny blur, so there's really no point I can consistently aim at to create a "group" of any kind. So the shots just go all over the damn place if they even go on paper.

I will try your advice though, anon, to at least attempt to eliminate poor trigger control and poor sight picture as sources of problems. Sadly I'm a NYfag so I can't just go on land and shoot (this is also why I have no hasguns buddies).

Enough of my shitting up the thread though. Here's my K31.

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just another mosin

>>33506425
Ahh the K31. A rifle renowned for its accuracy, Made by mountain elves.

Why weren't they smart enough to put a rear aperture sight on it MSG?
Literally no excuse for such barbarism

>>33506447

like all elves the autism of the Swiss knows no bounds.

>>33506425
>wrong eye dominant
Just close your left eye, you're not doing operator pistol drills at 7m. I don't understand why this is so hard for people.

>>33503497
youll have less competition because all the poorfags looking to snag a cheap deal wont be there at the end of the auction emotionally attached and irrationally trying to beat you. theyll see that someone else is already bidding on the item and move on. when they see an empty no bids item for cheap, they add it to their watch list to come back later and bid on it

>>33506317
im pretty mad about it honestly. i dont want people to make it seem cool, the less popular they are, the cheaper they are. since when do idiot millenials care about history anyway

>>33506317
>implying I don't own an AR in addition to milsurp

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>>33506772
since BF1 came out

>>33506841
i broke down last year and got one. i put a bump fire stock on it and everything.

its a pre-ban 9mm Colt. i use an MP40 mag pouch for all the 30 rnd mags it came with.


--------------------------------------------------

Its great that a new generation is getting into history and milsurp, and with games like BF1 being successful, it reminds 12 yr olds that there were other wars besides WW2. While this will have the drawback of demand and prices going up --- it does mean the value of our investments will rise. More importantly, historical preservation will continue and we get to experience the joys of educating the next generation of collectors on our hobby, just as the OG collectors passed that knowledge on to us.

In fact, the other week I was chilling at the LGS and an old man came in with his grandson. The old guy knew most of his shit, but I'd never seen him around before (which is rare). He goes on to tell me that his grandson had been bugging him for weeks to take him to a milsurp store. I start pulling pistols out of the case for them and point out the 2nd model snail drum mag. The grandpa knew what it was, but thanks to BF1 his grandson knew more about it than he did and noticed the MP18 adapter. That shit made my fuckin' day.

I just hope the next WW1 game is actually well made and fun.

>>33506841
Literally nothing wrong with this. But there is something wrong with owning only the newest toys because "the old ones are stupid/don't work"

>>33507687
this is a blue board

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>>33507703
then avert your eyes

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>>33507712
Kill yourself namefag

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>>33506213
The one I just bought was $1000. So yeah they aren't cheap exactly but they're in the same range as their contemporaries.
>>33506229
You and me both. I might get one this month. But there's a lot I might get this month.
>>33506428
It's a nice looking Mosin though.
>>33506447
Being a nation of marksmen, they probably didn't want to change what they had grown up on. It's part of the reason Americans didn't like the M1917 when it was originally issued.
>>33506772
Millenials with money (AKA hipsters) have always cared about history. That's part of what makes them hipsters.
>>33507022
>More importantly, historical preservation will continue and we get to experience the joys of educating the next generation of collectors on our hobby, just as the OG collectors passed that knowledge on to us.
This. More interest will raise prices but it also means fewer bubba and "restoration" jobs, so there's more to go around in the end.

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>>33507879
no thanks, i'd rather not.

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>>33508027
Do the Johnsons need shooter packs like the g43s?

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>>33508049
nope. they are good to go

>>33472948
Looks like a Mauser bolt without the firing pin/safety assembly. Definitely not a P14/M1917 bolt, and can't be a Gewehr 98 bolt since it has a bent handle. Though then again, were scoped Gewehr 98s given a bent handle? So I could be proven wrong like my cousin did after I told her that relatives can't get each other pregnant.

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>>33506317
I specifically picked up my Mauser because I wanted to practice iron sight shooting and work on fundamentals

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>>33508131
that is the best way to do that

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>>33506772
>>33507022
Once the BF1 hype is over with and the 100th anniversary of WWI is gone, the prices will drop back down.

So Apparently Julia has a couple of RSCs....

Whelp, hope I win one.

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>>33508098
>were scoped Gewehr 98s given a bent handle?
Yes.

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>>33508210
Good luck! They're already expensive, then add in Ian making a video on them and the WWI being a 100 years ago right now the prices will probably be the highest ever seen for them.

Test

I can't believe you guys are just ok with namefags talking to you like they're your equals. Fuck, when is much-better-chan going to be fixed? I hate it here.

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>>33508283

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>>33506317
I know most of the trips in /arg/ have multiple surplus rifles, and I'm still adding to the family.

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>>33508283
a lot of the people come to these threads for advice. if we don't use tripcodes to establish our credibility then it opens the door for trolls to trick noobs into doing things that may harm them or their vintage firearms.

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>>33508298
>>33508283
I trip in general threads but take them off for all the others
>>33508185
Do you know the cheapest place to get stripper clips?

>>33508298
Then why not just use reddit? Honest question. There's no reason to have an online persona unless you're a attention whore. Do you not understand why it's cancerous?

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>>33508354
aside from my personal stash of hundreds? you might want to check ebay/gunbroker/libertytree.

i got lucky and an OG collector sold his stash and I paid $80 for about 700 stripper clips. (.30-06, 7.65, 8mm, 7.62, 303, m1 garand). cost a small fortune to load them all up.

>>33508397
Do you not understand the inherent differences between tripping and reddit? the karma system ruins that website. plus its too nice to the people who are incorrect

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>>33508397
the people here arnt a bunch of liberal faggots. reddit is only a head better than tumblr.

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>>33508410
...wanna sell me some?

>>33508283
>8/k/
>better
That board is dead as fuck. 4+4chan stopped being good after six months

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>>33508444
i can. ill have to check if the .3006 ones will take .308. the 7.62 ones i have are for x54r.

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>>33508465
the 8mm ones will work with .308 wont they?

>>33508492
I dont have any spare 8mm at the moment. I own a LOT of mausers and spent quite some time loading most of my couple thousand rounds on the strippers. I think i have some spare .30-06 though. Ill check here in a minute and see what I have on hand.

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>>33508410
Not him but I was lucky to find some 5 shot 8mm lebel clips, but I still haven't seen any 3 round ones.

I also got a bunch of 8x56R on strippers and in original boxes too.

>>33508526
I still have some left over from before my Berthier got stolen.

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>>33508492
I have some .30-06 i can spare (i have more ammo, but im leaving some loose since I also have the garand). I checked and it will fit the .308 perfectly. Ill test it later today and see if the US .30-06 strippers will charge a mauser.

how many did you want?

>>33508526
nice. i have some of those too.

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>>33508526
Was this at a gun show in Texas? There was a lady selling French surplus "Balle N" on 5 round berthier clips, and just like yours they all had the tips of the bullets cut off from the German company that bought/sold them.

I regret that after buying all of her 7.5 surplus, I only had enough money for one bag of the 8mm Lebel. A shame because at $8 for 4 clips and 20 rounds I could have made a ton of money on just selling the clips for $10 apiece.

>>33508526
>>33508613
Btw, all of those 8mm Lebel were a shit. 5 rounds were duds and at least another 5 were hangfires. Scary shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeziKsiaKME
>>33508583
>before my Berthier got stolen.
What happened? :(

>>33508613
No, in Minnesota.
The tips were all snipped off on the bulk ammo exposing the lead core.

>>33508624
nigs gonna nig. what they plan on doing with a 5ft rifle thats in a cartridge that hasnt been made in a hundred years Ill never know
>>33508586
5-10.

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>>33508492
>the 8mm ones will work with .308 wont they?
The 8x57mm ones work just fine with 7.62NATO

>>33506317
I'm mostly invested in AKs and waiting for B&T to release a pistol, but have slowly been collecting surps here and there. Pre war European sporting rifles look interesting too
>1952 non refurb Tula SKS
>Sako M39
>Loewe 1895
Nothing exotic but they are all in beautiful condition. Unsure what to go after next, I found a nice MAS 36 locally with a lot of character

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>>33509145
>I found a nice MAS 36 locally with a lot of character
Sounds like a winner to me. Just keep pebbles out of the trigger.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/631438465

If only..

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>>33509225
found this in the archives, pretty sex. Berthiers are cool looking too. I'll probably never have a chance to shoot these before buying them. Choices are hard

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>>33509365
Ah that is an old one. I don't believe Nugget Collector has it anymore.

Berthiers are fun, but the requirement for clips (which are difficult to find) and the fact that PPU only makes 8mm Lebel once a year are points against it in my eyes. Plus you need .329 bullets for reloading if you want good accuracy.

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Mas postin

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>>33509401
>I don't believe Nugget Collector has it anymore.
He doesn't? I thought he still does. I know he sold his 49/56 years ago.

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>>33509730
I remember he wanted mine at some point, though that was also years ago. Maybe he got a new one.

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>mas 36
>no import
>325
>butt plate looks rusted to fuck
>stock looks damaged
> back trigger guard rusted
>bore is good but has eroding of the lands toward the muzzle

should I grab this thing? I want a French rifle but this one seems to be more of a project gun in terms of repairs.

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>>33509145
some good gets there. I wish I had an M39. my only finn mosin is an M91 capture/rework.

the son of the local milsurp shopkeep is a FInn collector so he gets 99% of the finnish arms that come through STL.

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>>33509756
I don't think he would have sold it.
>if he was he should have at least contacted me
>>33509769
Pics?

>>33509803

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/632973626

here's the link to the gun

that butt plate is turbo dead.

>>33509831
Looks pretty good to me. Definitely seen some years but other than the buttplate looks pretty good. For $325 I'd get it.

>>33509831
It does sort of have that Vietnam look to it. It was made in 1950 so it's possible to have been there. It's really not that bad looking for a Vietnam bringback. The stock and the metal bits look perfectly fine.

The guy is also wrong about the reading of the muzzle. The end of the muzzle were all counterbored at the factory so they can be converted to an LG48 grenade launcher.

Any of yous ever have to make your own spring?

100+ year old leaf springs broke and i can't seem to find one at any of the typical parts dealers. Found one on fleabay but the cocky bastard wants $50 for it

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>>33510340
Too much want.

>>33483151
Better question: What Mauser WON'T you get next?

>>33510649
Next? A 98k. I have little interest in one.

>bolt doesn't match
how does this make you feel inside?

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>>33510689

never gonna find that matching bolt

>>33510689
Depends on the rifle.

Generally it kills the deal. Something like an Arisaka i would still consider if it had other redeeming qualities i desire.

Missmatched bands or small parts i don't look twice about. The receiver, bolt, barrel, stock are the only things that will truly effect anything and the main parts I'm looking for. In that order.

That being said a killer deal will have me second guessing myself. I have a Savage Enfield with a missmatched bolt that was oddly still made in the same day going by its serial

A salvage shop in my town has just, for some unknown reason, acquired some Hungarian milsurp. Mostly bags and pouches, but some helmets and other gear too. Is there potentiallly anything interesting I should look for?

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Picked this up for $80

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>>33511139
nice. now you have to rebuild her. we have the technology.

>>33511112
Now what was that called... M1885 Lee Navy Rifle? Lee-Remington? Might have been 1884 instead of 1885. Might be the first firearm ever designed to have a proper spring-operated box magazine.

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>>33510689
>how does this make you feel inside?
It bothers me, but the less I paid for the rifle the less it irks me. A good deal on a model that I want won't stop me from buying even if it's mis-matched.

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>>33511202
Remington-Lee, 1879 and 1885. Mines a USN 1885

shoots great.