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Why are most rifle's charging handles on the left side? Wouldn't it make more sense being on the right, I,E dominate hand side?
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You're holding the pistol grip, and therefore the gun, with your dominant hand.
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>>33465655
the idea is to not take your hand off the pistol grip so you can fire again faster daykare
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>>33465655
Just incase this isnt bait and you truly seek information, its so you can easily and quickly operate all fuctions of the rifle without your trigger hand ever leaving the grip. Look up quick reloads of an ak, where the charging handle is on the right side. The quickest way is not to use your trigger finger hand. Its quicker to reach under the rifle and rack the charging handle
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>>33465655
oh and post this here >>33443063 next time
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Isn't it really just Ak that has it on left?

Garand - right
M14 - right
Sks - right
10/22 - right
???
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>>33465655
>>33465669
>>33465671
A charging handle is only used once if you never press the bolt catch release on a cleared breach. That is if you don't have a rifle for cucks. Handle sides do not matter if your rifle was never ready for combat.
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>>33465794
So a bunch of shitty old rifles?
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>>33465806
All rifles can jam. You need to pull the CH to clear some malfunctions.
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>>33465856
And it's faster and more efficient to use your support hand, not your trigger hand.
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>>33465794
Is this bait? AK has a right side charging handle too.
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>>33465806

>AKs have bolt hold-open functions and release controls
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>>33466254
Do newer variants like the AK-12 and 10x series even have a BHO?
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>>33465794
Keep in mind all of those have traditional stocks, where it is less practical to hold the gun only by the grip.
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>>33466237
Proofs? Professional competitors and all the Haley Costas Macnamaras advocate for charging the rifle with support hand because of speed of return to shooting
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G36 did this right. charging handle is on top and can flip to either side.
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I always thought you would charge your weapon with either hand depending different factors, what position you are in cover, what side of your body your magazines are on, whichever is more convenient, swapping mags and charging with left or right hand
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>>33465655
Because you don't have to break your firing grip to charge the weapon. The same fucking reason people charge AKs with their left hand
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>>33465794
>I play vidya and have nogunz, the post

AK is on the right side too you dingus
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>>33466400
>Literally what I fucking said
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>>33465673
>under
ARfag detected
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>>33466637
Under>over>primary hand racking

T. Differentfag
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>>33465807
AHAHAHA U A NO GUN. U FELL FOR BAIT,
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>>33466282
No.
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>>33466981
AK-12 does have BHO
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lQfxgVB_9XI
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>>33466753
>tilt to left and rack on top with support

t. FDF training
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>>33467176
Yeah well FDF is retarded. Besides, the instuction differs greatly between instructors, some teach primary hand racking.
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How could people get so assmad over which side a charging handle is on?
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>>33467422
Because people can't understand different opinions or design philosophies. For them, there is only one objective, absolute truth.
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>>33465807
SIG 510, SIG 550, SA80, and Valmet/Galil/R4/R5
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>>33466419
So does it on the FAMAS, SAR-21, Type 86
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>>33465655
Because it is more convenient to charge AR-15 with left hand. Due to backwards handle location you need to unshoulder weapon to charge. If you charge it with right hand you hold gun with left around handguard against charge pull force. It is weak hold just with fingers strength. If you hold gun with right hand and charge with left pistol grip will press against palm of the right and and you can apply much more force. With AR-15 widespread use its trait become fashion and people started copying this trait and/or demanding its copying pretending this disadvantage is actually advantage and is (((proper))) way of doing things supplementing this myth with many explanations don't mentioning the right one explanation: you can't charge AR-15 with right hand (well you can but this is awkward).

Prior to AR-15 guns with more forward position of charging handle didn't need unshouldering for charging. You press butt-stock against shoulder and rack hand with any force you can generate, gun will press against body and will not go anywhere. It can be done with both left and right hands. Right hand is righ way of doing things because you use dominant hand for action so charging handles went on the right side.

But then came AR-15 and stupid copying started even on guns with forward charging handle locations which don't need unshoulder and left hand racking.
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>>33467910
Plus Type 89 and FNC/AK5
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>>33466419
>G36 did this right.
Ann then wild Picatinny Rail appears.
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>>33468391
Your reasoning is retarded, you always unshoulder anyway since you'll need to take cover or move during reloading.
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This thread is full of retarded ass people.
>anons give info
>fags say nuh uhh and then say same thing as anons
>fags cant even glance at the most iconic rifle In the world to see what side the charging handle is on.


Ohhhh summmerrrr
How you're not so far aawwayyy
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>>33468444
AK charging handle is on the right because their philosophy is to charge with the right hand/have as much training commonality with the older bolt actions as possible, not because it's the most efficient way. Another possible reason is that a left sided ch may stick to gear when carried and put the weapon out of battery. The most modern revision of thr AK has charging handles on both sides.
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>>33468412
Fun fact: 99.99999% of all AR-15 reloads in the world are made without taking cover or moving.
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>>33468486
Fun fact: 99.99999% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
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>>33468479
Doing things with dominant hand is more efficient, natural and reliable way.
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>>33468516
You also advocate changing the magazine with your right hand?
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>>33468523
Of course. Actually this is the main reason for right hand (dominant hand, reverse sides for lefties) gun manipulations. Racking the bolt is relatively simple processes there is little you can fuck up. But manipulations with magazines is much more difficult and require more of fingers and hand dexterity. You can manipulate magazines with right hand and charge with left but changing hands obviously doesn't make any sense. If you started reload with right hand you finish it with right charging gun.
>inb4 only retards drop magazines and can't find magwell in the dark train enough and you will do it 100%
Exactly fact that you need to specifically train process speaks of its difficulty and doing difficult things with dominant hand is a right way.
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>>33467116

That was the prototype one. The actual production AK-12 is just a souped-up 74M derivative.
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>>33468654
how does this make sense, using your right hand to change a magazine for a weapon that is held in your right shoulder? It's awkward as fuck, I bet you're noguns
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>>33468654
>Have to reach under the rifle to grab new mag
>not as easy to keep on target
>takes hand away from mag release, trigger, and safety
>AR-15 bolt release and charging handle easier to work with left (off) hand
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>>33468479
Exactly that Anon,
This was the guiding philosophy of the Warsaw Pact. Its purpose is also played by stupidity resistance. The idea is to avoid "the finger on the trigger at the same time while charging..."

For example, the Czech army and Vz58, to charge by using your left hand (haste above or below) is a matter after 90's, until the end of compulsory military service (always has been assumed that the conscript's an idiot)
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>>33468856
It's also likely assumed that once in the field and loaded the safety would never leave Auto.
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>>33468668
Makes me sad tbhfam
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>>33468668
What? What AK-12 are you talking about? Do you mean the AK-15? The one currently "adopted" is just called AK-74M and is based off the AK-400 and AK-15.
>pic related AK-15
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>>33468994
>current AK-74M (AK-400)
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>>33468654
So, you're saying you keep the rifle shouldered, then do everything with your primary hand? And you're also saying that this is the most reliable and efficient way?

That is some nice shit you're on.
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>>33468920
Vz58 has a different selector fire mode / safety
Adage:
30 for enemy
Nothing in the ground
1 for me
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>>33468486
Fun fact Armalite didn't design the AR platform for civilians you massive cuckmonkey.

No one gives a shit about how your fatass has trouble removing your AR from your rolls to charge it.
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>>33466419

I suppose? Frankly the way they designed the bolt hold open to disengage seems rather asinine to me. Why not have a simple button to press like an AR instead of reaching up, craning the handle to the left and pulling back?
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>>33470348
Because "muh macro movements". Glockfags spew the same shit their "slide stop, not slide release" drivel.
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>>33465806
have great rifle, cocked by special magic tool at the factory because of weight savings or some shit
Rifle is proofed out to 10 million rounds of quality ammunition.
Receive shit ammo in the field because beurocrats, die due to malfunction despite quality rifle.
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>>33470348
>Why not have a simple button to press
Exists.
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>>33470694
He's talking about bolt release, dear. Not mag release.
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>>33470706
Look again.
http://www.heckler-koch.com/en/products/military/assault-rifles/g36/g36/accessories.html?tx_z7attachmentshk_pi3[article]=784&cHash=1e70360a093a94bfcfaea9afeba553cb
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>>33470733
So why didn't they have that on by default?
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>>33470751
Probably because it wasn't requested.
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>>33470751

This

It seems like a glaring omission.
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>>33470764
You can never exceed demands?

Well, it's the krauts, they would have probably had a shitfit if HK had delivered more than they requested.
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