Revolver general: Biker fashion edition

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>>33458815
Reloading is essential to owning a .44 Magnum unless you're literally made of money.

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>>33458798

>>33458815
Reloading isn't super complicated. Just buy a manual and don't do it while drunk or smoking.

Buying a .44 Mag was a good choice, as was going with a Redhawk. You'll have fun with it and getting into reloading will deepen your understanding of firearms.

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Anyone here ever tried pewter grips? They looks sexy but how do they feel?

>>33459002
Pretty heavy I'd imagine. Also cold.

>>33459002
I hear fitting is kinda shit.

>>33459002
I wonder if they stain your skin or make your hand stink.

>>33458877
>>33458887
That Smith has seen some shit

How's the lockup on it?

So I know this is revolver general but I don't think my one handgun question warrants a new thread so - smith and wesson shield 45acp or glock 30?

>>33459514

I'd go with the Smith and Wasson shield

>>33459514

1911

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How much of a meme is this gun?

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>>33459936
>Is X a meme

>>33459936
>2 pieces of aluminishit legoed into each other
>one pencil barrel liner made from hydraulic fluid pipe

you tell me yankee marshall.

>>33458850
I've been reloading some of the same 44mag brass for over 25 years.

>>33459514
gtfo.... oh, and if your only going to have one gun, buy the glock. So easy, even an idiot can use it. Now get out of my yard, normie.

>>33459936
memeist of the memeist.

butt ugly as well

>>33460156
Idk I really like how it looks.

>>33460060
>2 pieces of aluminishit legoed into each other
What?
>one pencil barrel liner made from hydraulic fluid pipe
What???

>>33460137
I already have several revolvers. Just looking at a couple cheap options for semi autos is all and thats whats available at the gunshop here so i wouldnt have to pay for transfer. Thanks for the input though

>>33460203
>>2 pieces of aluminishit legoed into each other
>What?
>>one pencil barrel liner made from hydraulic fluid pipe
>What???

It has an alloy frame with an alloy barrel housing bolted to it. The actual barrel is a separate steel insert.

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>>33459936
you should go full meme and get it in .40 short and weak.

>>33459936
S E A M
E ! ! !
A ! ! !
M ! ! !

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$450 plus shipping off Gunbroker last week. 1981 model that I polished up a bit.

What am I in for when I fire it for the first time? Is .44 mag really that bad?

>>33460363
So, it has a barrel insert like an LCR but in even more pieces to save on production cost?
That's disappointing.
There was an anon on here one night claiming to be a gunsmith and he acted like the Rhino wasn't constructed as well as he would have liked when asked about it.

>>33460522
Off a full sized gun? Not really, unless you go full retard at the gate, just get some plinking loads and move up from there.

>>33459936
It would be less of a meme if it wasn't overpriced by $200-300.

>>33460522
Nice gun! Most guns like that probably don't have a 100 rounds through them. Sounds like a great price too. I wish I could answer you're question but I want to get a few other guns before get a 44 Magnum.

>>33460593
What's a typical weight/velocity for a 44 mag plinking load?

>>33460643
300gr ~1300 FPS

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>>33460612
>I want to get a few other guns before get a 44 Magnum.

Yeah, I kinda wonder where .44s rank on buy priority. I have .32 to 9mm, tried a 1911 and didn't like it. Was going to get a 10mm because memegun, but then I figured if I was gonna get a dumb gun I couldn't afford to shoot I might as well go all the way.

>>33460681
>I kinda wonder where .44s rank on buy priority
1. CCW Glock 19
2. HD salt raifu
3. whatever you want

>>33460643

240gr at around 800fps is what i consider "light", depending on what powder you use. i load my 240gr XTP's at ~1000fps (not chrono'd however), and they felt lighter than the winchester factory stuff the brass came from.

>>33460203
>Idk I really like how it looks.

then you have zero taste

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>>33460522
>What am I in for when I fire it for the first time? Is .44 mag really that bad?

a fun time as long as your not a pussy

>>33460522
Just remember to count your shots, might come in handy at some point

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>>33458949
>Just buy a manual and don't do it while drunk or smoking.

Pussy

>>33459412
loose but safe.

>>33460962
Smith need to make a 7 shot .44 for lucky guys.

>>33460986
Make sure you put your ashtray right next to your open tub of gunpowder, too.

>>33460986
Plebe. Not loading by candle light.

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Is the TRR8 a meme or is it actually good?

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>>33461273
It's an 8-shot .357 with railz.
If you want to shoot a revolver with both hands on the gun, in the dark, and see that at which you're aiming, it's among your only options.
If you love shooting with handheld lights or only plan on shooting in well-lit areas, it's a bit pointless.

>>33461526

I still can't get used to S&W using those weird Dan Wesson-esque sleeved barrels.

>>33460418
it wants to die. throw it in the hot slag and set it free

>>33460096
Well hello Roland.still carrying your dad's guns huh

>>33460418
The snub ones don't look too terrible, owing to the fact that there is no seam, rail, or big ugly hole over the barrel.

>>33460522
Start out with some .44 Special wadcutters, then some .44 Magnum target loads, then step up from there.

Good price by the way.

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>>33461273
love mine

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>>33464094

>>33464115
It infuriates me how close this is to an octogon barrel but not

>>33464402
its still damn nice looking,one of the things that drew me to it,especially since im no s&w fan,matter of fact its the only s&w i own,wont say ill never buy another,but many things will have to change before i consider it.

>>33464493
Just wish they made one without the rails but keeping the sleeve and general shape

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>>33464493
Here, have some input for your decisions.

Reminds me to decide on a handgun scope for the lower right one.

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>>33458798
My Qt

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>>33464604
>pachmayr grips on a colt

Usually I'd call you a fag, but since it's stainless with a longer barrel, I'll let it slide. It actually looks pretty cool

anyone know a gunsmith place in PA that'll work on top break revolvers?

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>>33464615
looking for original grips atm but they are pretty expensive.

I have a smith that's last patent date is on top of the barrel/ 2 dates in 1914, what do I have?

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How'd I do for babby's first wheelgun?

.38 feels like nothing coming out of this.

>>33464639
damn fine work finding that guy; pinned barrel and everything. Get a shoulder holster for it, you'll thank me later

>>33464631
Understandable, even OEM parts are gouged to a ridiculous level for those

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Rate my CCW

>>33465920
weighs more than a Glock 19 but holds a third as many cartridges/10
same capacity as a J-frame but dramatically harder to conceal and carry/10
I mean I love revolvers but CCW is srs bsns and should be dominated by technical concerns like weight and capacity accordingly.
Packing a "compact" revolver in a common service caliber is a poor choice.
Even if you're some kind of Miculek-esque savant who can operate a wheelgun as fast or faster than someone with an automatic, the fact that you have to stop what you're doing and take your gun apart to put more bullets in three times more often than someone with a normal gun is a huge liability that you're assuming for no obvious reason.
>inb4 a huge dumb argument about what constitutes an "average gunfight"

>>33466037
But muh 90% first-shop incapacitation rate with .357 mag

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>>33466195
According to Marshall's own data, Federal's 125 gr 357B has a 96% one-shot stop rate, and Speer's 124 gr 9mm+P Gold Dot has a 83% OSSR.
Assuming a SP101, a Glock 19, and one attacker, that gives you a 0.00001% chance of needing to reload with the revolver and a 0.00000000029% chance with the auto (i.e., dumping all 5/all 15 of your loaded rounds into the target without neutralizing the threat).

>>33464094
>fat
>tatoo
>g-shock
>realtree

These are the king of people who buy meme guns like that.

>>33465920
"no Hilary hole? 10/10 would bang"

-Bill Clinton

>>33458850
>44magfag complains about prices
>44specialsnowflake ammo costs more
>could cheaply reload it if I bought mag cases and cut them down
>autism activates
>know it will have mag stamp on rim
>can't bring myself to cut down mag to load spc
I should sell this gun

>>33460522

44 magnums are not that bad, but grips can make a difference. If you don't have a good time, try a set of rubber grips.

>>33466455
It's not even realtree, it's the Chinese knockoff realtree that you get at Walmart.

>>33459002
That is the second best way to get lead poisoning I've ever seen.

>>33466483
You don't need to trim the cases to 44 spl length unless you're planning on shooting them in a 44 spl gun.
The extra case length on the magnum is only there to keep people from loading it into 44 spl guns and hurting themselves.
Just use 44 spl loads in the unmodified 44 mag brass and you'll be fine.

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>>33461081
Approved

>>33466536
I got a .44spl
I sort of bought it on impulse cause I wanted a wheel gun and figured I'd get into reloading. Haven't shot it enough to make up my mind about it but I really want one of those new Ruger 44spc. with a longer barrel. I bought this one before I really started eye balling a few rugers in person and before that new 44 came out, now I almost want to sell this thing even if it's at a loss to help make up the cost of getting one of those better made ruger ones.

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>>33466037
>same capacity as a J-frame but dramatically harder to conceal and carry/10
Not him, but it's an SP101. it takes up the same space. It does weigh more though. For me, it's about the size and not the weight. Stick it a pocket holster and you've a got a nice little hand cannon that disapears in the front pocket of my jeans.
>But muh 90% first-shop incapacitation rate with .357 mag
The trick to a .357 Mag snubbie are loads with a long bullet. Either 158 or 180 grain conventional, or a 125 grain solid copper hollow point. The longer bullet means it takes less powder to get magnum pressures. I carry Cor Bon DPX 125 grain solid copper hollow points in mine. recoil and muzzle flash are comparable to a .38+P load.

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>>33465920
how do you like the wood grips?

>>33466669
They're a fucking pain in the ass to shoot because they make the recoil feel really stout, but for concealed carry they're mega comfortable.

>>33466655
I'll have to give those a try. I'm currently loading mine with 50gr solid copper hollowpoints but I these cartridges might ill-suited for short barrels.

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>>33466682
May have to try a set.

>>33466643
Forgot to mention partly got a spl because of barrel length, and partly because when I get into reloading a lot of times I'm operating on little or no sleep and the smaller case seems like I'd make less error in double charging easier to see the powder being at the right spot or over flowing if I make a mistake.

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>>33466697
If you can't find the Cor Bon DPX, Speer has a 135 grain Gold Dot short barrel .357 Magnum load.

>>33465920
I fucking love that shade of wood grips. I was looking at getting some for mine. Realistically rubber makes more sense since I'll never use it for more than plinking, but I feel like a range revolver should have rubber while a combat revolver should have wood or metal grips.

>>33465920
As long as you are comfortable carrying it and using it? You did just fine, anon!

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>>33466762
I was actually looking at this; 180gr hollow points from federal. What do you think?

>>33466669
wood grips are maximum sexy

>>33466483
>>33466643
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/941455237/starline-reloading-brass-44-special
.44 Special brass exists.

>>33464594
What are the 2 on the bottom?

>>33464594
>scoping the gun with lower bore axis
It's only that thick to accommodate the irons

>>33466846
My only real issue is that the back where the wood meets the metal around the hammer area isn't quite seamless since I don't have the tools to shape the wood there to fit the revolver. Aside from that, its a blast!

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>>33460986
>Lee
>Pabst
>cigar

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>>33466851
Haven't tried those specifically, but I have tried 180 grain loads from my SP and are surprisingly controllable compared to firebreathing 125 grain loads out of the same gun..

>>33460681
>>33460766
This, desu, but more generally:

1. CCW double-stack in 9mm - with this you can adequately defend yourself while you can also git gud with the cheapest ammo short of .22LR,
2. HD long gun
____a. salt raifu - AR or AK are both fine. For indoor HD use, you might want to have a mag of subsonic ammo in when you're at the house. If you live alone and have an extra second, ear pro will adequately substitute for subsonic ammo. If you opt for an AR, think about investing in an .300 memeout upper when you're at home or for later hunting.
____b. a semi-auto 12ga - preferably has an external magazine

>>33468674
Subsonics aren't meaningfully quieter than supers unless you're shooting suppressed - you need earpro with either, period.
300 BLK doesn't provide enough benefit to justify its cost unless you're running a suppressed SBR.
There's literally nothing wrong with a pump shotgun as long as you run the action like you stole it and don't get memed into thinking that the scary noise it makes is a substitute for shooting people.
Buckshot does enough damage that the ammo in a tube magazine and sidesaddle should be plenty for any realistic home defense problem, and besides, 12ga magazines are so bulky and heavy that you're not going to stick a spare in your pajama pants pocket like you can with a salt rifle mag.

>>33466717
The size difference will not be that big of a deal. If you are that worried get trail boss. Trail boss is almost, if not, imposable to over load. The draw back is less velocity. I just used h110 for my 357 and you use so much powder it would be extremely obvious if you double charged. Also after a certain amount of powder it is a compressed load. So you can just shake it and if you hear the powder moving you under charged. I honestly feel safer then using universal. Unfortunately h110 is not an option with .44 spl.

>>33462865
Im guessing thats a dark towers reference

>>33466308
yet the mall ninjas, who have about a .0000000000000000000000000000001% chance of being in a gunfight, will actually argue about that.

>>33466308
Where can I find this data? Also, is there some on 45acp and 22lr for giggles?

>>33470796
http://z4.invisionfree.com/Gerrys_Campfire/ar/t42.htm
search terms: marshall one shot stop

>45 ACP
>96% 230 gr Federal Hydra Shok JHP
>96% 185 gr Remington JHP +P
>96% 185 gr Remington Golden Saber JHP

>22 CALIBER (no bullet weights specified)
>40% Quik Shok JHP
>38% CCI Stinger JHP
>30% Federal JHP
>(22 long rifle bullets, more often than not, weigh 36, 38 or 40 grains)

>>33458798
That handle is sex

>>33470936
Many thanks friend

>>33458798
Shot the gun from your pic

It was awesome. Probably one of the best revolvers besides korth

>>33465920
What type of gun is this?

>>33464094
She's beautiful
I would love to won one someday, but I already own a 686 4 inch

>>33464094
it's like I'm really on instagram

>>33466717
>Reloading
>No Sleep

KA-BOOOM!

>>33470224
Yeah, Roland, the guys that's been alive AND a gun fighter for well over 100 years claims he's reloaded his brass "many times". This brass which according to King's retarded self contains over 120gr or powder. Let that sink in

>>33472314
It's been a long time since I read that story. King has never been known to be good with gun facts.

>>33472314
>over 120gr or powder

I find that low/mid twenties with w296 to be sufficient

I've been looking at the Taurus 605 snub nose in 357. Anyone able to give me the skinny on them? I know taurus can be hit or miss but my coworker has 2 revolvers with a few hundred rounds through them each and had no issues so far.

>>33472610
>I know Taurus is huehuehue trash but my coworker has two revolvers with almost literally no rounds through them each and had no catastrophic failures yet

>>33472801
this, i'd sooner trust the EAA snubby if you insist on 357 vs 38sp

>>33465920
SOMEONE ANSWER ME. WHAT GUN IS THIS. IS THIS JUST A SNUB NOSE .357 S&W?

>>33472975
If you aren't going to read the thread, at least read the reply chain descending from the post you're so curious about.

>>33473049
I did. They never mention the name of the gun.

>>33472975
you dont know revolvers, do you?

look at the cylinder release.
it aint no smith....
now who uses a release like that?
google it

>>33473212
No I don't know revolvers that's why I'm asking. It looks cool and I don't know what is different about the release. Do I google "cylinder release that is a button"

>>33473190
wrong
>>33466655

>>33473212
Maybe he didnt assume you'd be punk bitch and just shoot a reasonable reply

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Do you guys use anything to protect wood grips?
I just bought a set (pic) and I'm afraid I'll damage it. I shoot ~300 rounds every week, so it'll see a lot of use. I use gloves, so sweat isn't really a problem.

>>33474244
If you dont sweat just wpining down with a cloth and then brushing with soft bristle brush should do you fine

>>33466509
That depends on if the pewter is alloyed with lead or not.

Old drinking cups and beersteins made from pewter could be made with lead (especially Roman ones), but I think that became exceedingly less common once people figured "Wait, maybe we shouldn't be ingesting fucking heavy metals?"

Something which the Romans knew, by the way, that lead was bad for you, but their attitude towards the lead was basically "#YOLO ==DDD" and just rolled with it because they liked the taste (supposedly would give wine a sweeter tinge).

>>33474448
Actually, scratch that, the Romans didn't use pewter, I'm a fucking retard, what they did is that they made drinking cups out of PURE lead.

Which of course is much worse.

>>33474448
Holy fuck. Them is some dumb mother fuckers.

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>>33474459
Thinking about it, they probably actually did both.

Either way, people generally don't make cookware, dinnerware and other things you'll handle out of pewter alloyed with lead, because of health concerns, so unless your pewter grips come from China they probably aren't going to poison you.

>>33474478
Decadence is a powerful drug.

Like, they fully well knew ingesting lead or being exposed to it in enough doses would gradually make you sluggish and aggressive.
But they felt it was just worth it.

>>33474510
>that fit
Suddenly I'm a lot less enthusiastic about them.

>>33460522

.44 mag out of that will be easy money.

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>>33474520
I don't see anything really bad about them, but it's not like there's not an ocean of Blackhawk and Vaquero grips available.

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>>33460941

.44mag action pics?

>>33465920
9/10

If it was mine it would be a 10.

>>33466037

If I were an LEO I'd carry a Glock and a back up revolver.

But since I'm not an LEO and don't pursue possibly multiple armed criminals for a career. I feel plenty safe with a revolver.

What the revolver brings to the table that a semi auto does not.

>won't get pushed out of battery in contact ranges, allowing you to dump all 5 or 6 shots into your attacker with the muzzle pressed right into them
>once you get control of your gun in a struggle for gun control, you don't need to tap rack and bang after a Malfunction, a process which takes two hands, a process you might not be able to accomplish when fighting off a big nig
>No need to worry about magazines, do you have the right one? Is it the one that jams? Is it old and possibly going to start giving problems soon? How long has that mag been left loaded? (not an issue with all steel mags but magpul and glock mags have been known to fuck up after being left loaded for a while)
>the bullets don't get fucked up from constant rechambering with a revolver.
>hollow points? Wad cutters? Doesn't matter. Almost zero feeding issues. Not ammo picky whatsoever

Remember, as a plain clothes average guy. Most of your attackers will try to get the drop on you and attack you when they're well within a few feet. They won't let themselves be known as dangerous until they're close to you. This is why having a gun that won't jam in contact ranges is important in my opinion.

Hey, if you prefer a semi than I'm all for it. More power to you. But if you're going to explain why a revolver is not practical, you should be open to hearing why it also is.

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>>33458798
I carried this on my bike, does that count?

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>>33465920
I don't think there's any revolver more aesthetic than a 3" SP 101. Seriously considering buying one despite having no need for it. Did it not having any of the factory markings on it?

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>>33474702
My gf loves hers

>>33474702

Are you me? I'm on the exact same boat. I'm considering getting it for that exact same reason.

I don't need it. I probably won't carry it seeing as how I'm comfortable with my small J-Frame.

But I just want it. It's so aesthetically pleasing. And it's a do it all revolver so in a way I feel like it has some use, meaning everything.

>>33474705
Did the newer models do away with the stamped lettering on the barrel? The ejector rod cut out is different from the gun in the picture. I'm slightly hesitant to spend $500 on a gun when I don't have any practical use for it. My only revolver currently is a S&W 28 which happens to be massive.

>>33474724
Not entirely sure honesty. I got this used at a lgs. Snagged it for 450$ she loves it

>>33474753
Man it's fucking great to find a gun that your lady likes, you can have range dates and shit.

>>33466980
These are two 'Merkle Zentralfeuer'.
Merkle is a german gunsmith who specialised on custom S&W revolvers.

>inb4 MIM
nope; replaced

>>33474923
There really isn't anything wrong with MIM unless you're a dogshit company like Kimber or Remington who don't care about quality control.

And let's face it, those people fuck up forgings and machinings so it's not like a gun from a shitty company will be better if it came from the factory without MIM parts.

>>33475023
The non MIM parts are a bit heavier and can be customized easier and cheaper.

He has some parts with a modified weight balance to reduce the trigger weight while releasing the same impuls to the primers.
These can be produced in small series for a reasonable price.

Not to mention that I had a failure of a MIM or P/M part already. The magical 'holdeverythingsliderelasease'-pin of my STI broke because of small airbubble in its middle.

>>33475204
>He has some parts with a modified weight balance to reduce the trigger weight while releasing the same impuls to the primers.
That's pretty cool actually.

Kind of makes me think of that special two-stage hammer on H&K PSG1, allowing it to have a light and crisp trigger while hitting primers hard as it should.

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Aussie here. My American fiance' wants her first gun to be a revolver, 357. S&W.

Yay or nay? She's a pretty bad bitch, so i think she could handle it easily. But i'd really appreciate some experienced advice on that choice.

>>33475568
>Aussie
>owning a handgun gun

unless you live out on a station, good luck on getting the Melbourne Ministry of Correct Thinking letting you have any rights

But in a big enough frame, yeah. I wouldn't recommend a lightweight snubbie, but a K frame or SP 101 3" would be fine.

>>33460681
>tried a 1911 and didn't like it.

So you hate good ergonomics and a the best trigger you will ever find in a pistol?

>>33461273
If it didn't have a Clinton lock then yes it would have been.

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>>33471828
It's a Ruger SP101 which is essentially just a scaled down version of their full size GP100. The 2.25 inch barrel model that guy has weighs somewhere around 26 ounces.

Basically, it's your generic 5 shot 357 magnum but Ruger did as Ruger does and they overbuilt the hell out of it (all steel and plenty of it to make it durable/long lasting).

The gun is light enough to carry but heavy enough to not have ANY issues shooting .38 special and actually be able to fire .357 magnum without your wrist imploding.

>>33472975
Ruger SP101. It's really shitty that people here are telling someone who is asking a honest question about firearms to "go google it", as if someone who doesn't know enough about firearms to recognize the brand by the cylinder release would even know what the hell to type into Google to find out.

>>33474702
It's a shame that not too much can be done to dramatically improve the trigger though :(

A GP100's trigger can be made into something that's fantastic, but a SP101 will, at best, just be OK. That being said, I love these SP101s.

>>33466195
Not out of a 2.25 inch barrel you wouldn't. Carry a 6 inch barrel'd 357 magnum like a real man.

>>33466037
Actually, a fully loaded glock 19 would probably weight a bit more than this thing when fully loaded.

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>>33474702
You meant to say 3" J frame.

>>33468918
>Buckshot does enough damage
Oh, it does a looooot more than just "enough damage".

>>33475568
Old, pre-Clinton lock S&W .357? Absolutely! New post-Clinton lock .357? Gross, no. Rugers are always nice.

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Any GP100 love here?

>>33464556
they do, its called the 327 or 329 pd

>>33475691
That's a slick lookin' gee pee.

>>33475599
You can get a handgun on a target shooting license, it's absolutely possible, they're just gonna be dicks about it.

>>33475607
>best ergonomics
Different guy, but the grip safety basically ruins the contour of the grip on most guns I've tried, it's a square piece pushing outwards.

I don't have a problem engaging it, but it just feels so wrong to have there, I don't get how so many people unironically defend this one aspect of the 1911. The Spaniards were totally right in removing it on their clones.

Also the slidestop is for babbyhands.

>>33475607
>So you hate good ergonomics and a the best trigger you will ever find in a pistol?

Liked the ergonomics, liked the trigger. Didn't like much else. If I was to get a .45 in the future it'd probably be an older Sig P220.

>>33475645
Glock claims a loaded 19 weighs 30.18 oz, and Ruger an empty SP101 26 oz.
A .357 Magnum cartridge weighs about half an ounce, so a loaded SP would be about 28.5, making the 19 heavier, but only just.

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>>33476477
I'd like a 4506 a lot I think, cleaner grip and a slide release you can't miss or fumble. Looks good in wood.

Or a .45ACP Redhawk, to make it a bit more relevant to thread.

>>33476753
>Or a .45ACP Redhawk, to make it a bit more relevant to thread.

I don't understand getting revolvers in auto calibers. Redhawk's a much bigger gun than anything that natively shoots .45ACP. Might as well go .44 or .45LC.

>>33464094
>Cringe

>>33477889
Cheaper ammo, uses the same ammo as your automatics, better performance with a short barrel, uses moonclips by default, easier to reload w/ moonclips because the cartridges are shorter and can't flop around as much, better accuracy with soft competition loads because there's less empty space in the case...

>>33477889
.45ACP is cheaper to shoot than .45 Colt if we're talking commercial ammo, and it's not hard to find in the slightest (whereas .45 Colt might not be too popular or common in some countries).

Of course, you could shoot .45 Super in the thing as well, on top of .45 Colt

Looking at revolvers in 9mm Luger, there you have a centerfire wheelgun that's absurdly cheap to shoot, way cheaper than .38 Special with about similar performance.

>>33473642

>>33473212 (You)
Maybe he didnt assume you'd be punk bitch and just shoot a reasonable reply

This is still 4 chan isn't it? I thought my answer was quite reasonable. It's a learning experience.
Why didn't you answer the question? Or are you a whiner, that would rather complain than try to help someone.

>>33474679
>How long has that mag been left loaded?
>(not an issue with all steel mags but magpul and glock mags have been known to fuck up after being left loaded for a while)
What fuddlore is this? Why would the outer material a magazine is made from affect damage from spring compression? Why do you think that leaving mags loaded damages them? Read about how springs work. You could leave them loaded for 100 years and they'll be as good as the day you bought them. Actually, loading and unloading them is what's gonna wear them out. And finally, you know glock magazines are all metal, right? They just have a plastic coating on the outside.

I'd like a fuck you revolver, do I get a Judge or a Governor?

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>>33479270
Fuck you, get a Model 29.

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>>33479270
A Super Blackhawk.

>>33479270
Always go for s&w over Taurus

>>33478643
>.45 Super in the thing as well,
I was just reading about a guy who used .460 reload data in his Ruger. So you can go even hotter with cheaper brass (then 45 colt) as I understand it. As .45 colt brass cost more.

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>>33479293
>135 USD

anon get me the timeportal

>>33479538
Joke's on you, that's $1206.09 in 2017 dollars.

>>33479618
still less than I can get a nice example for today

also, I wonder how hard it would be to get all period correct bills to take back in a time machine, no one ever considers that.

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Nice guy Eddie's S&W model 66 in reservoir dogs is well nice

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Is engraving for fags?

>>33479635
It's probably really easy to counterfeit 40s-50s currency using today's technology.
I mean, all those anti-counterfeiting features on modern bills must be there for a reason, right?

>>33480062
It gives you no tactical advantage whatsoever, unless you were planning to auction it off as a collector's item.

>>33480151
just you wait until some shop starts offering TACTICAL ENGRAVING to dumbfucks

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>dream gun

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>>33480062
I kinda want a gold-plated .38 Super L-frame with jaguars, eagles, snakes, skulls, poppies, etc. engraved on it, and ivory grips with a Virgin Mary carved on one side and a Grim Reaper on the other.

>>33480151
Obviously people don't want it for tacticool, It just looks great.

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My new to me colt police positive. Got it for 300 with 100 rounds of 32 s&w long. Super tight lockup too.

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>>33479270
>Judge
You mean the comic sans gun?

>>33480666
Fuck. I was heavily considering this until you pointed that out.
http://www.armslist.com/posts/6594427/grand-rapids-michigan-handguns-for-sale--special-edition-taurus-judge-10-year-nib

>>33479484
Does Taurus have Clinton holes?

>>33480666
what the fuck

>>33480583
I wonder why it took so long for gun makers to realize that protecting the extractor rod would be a good idea.

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>>33479719

Love my 66 snubby

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Just waiting on the grips...

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Here is my Dan Wesson 14-2 .357 Magnum.

>>33480701
>>33480829
I have no idea what the designer was thinking

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>>33459557
just got this today

>>33481410
Those grips are pretty gay

>>33481438
You're pretty gay.

>>33481506

They really are pretty gay. But the important thing is you like them.

>>33481247

Nice stolen gun.

>>33461273scandiumeme
get a 627

>>33481410
get one of those .300 Win Mag AR-15s and one of those adapters that lets you put 1911 grips on an AR and put those grips on the rifle and flip it on Gunbroker as a Chris Kyle tribute rifle

>>33481533
I actually do and don't give a fuck who doesn't lol. I'm a Punisher fan from way back, and Frank loves his 1911's

>>33480549

Lurk moar newfag. He's paraphrasing a quote from MGS3

>>33480381

Are you a beaner or do you just like the beaner aesthetic?

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>>33481546
It was purchased legally.

>>33478920

I did not know that.
But. All my other points still stand so suck it.

>>33481582

I'm just shitting you. I had this particular gun stolen that's why.

Now I don't know if I should buy the same one or a different gun.

>>33481628
Sorry to hear that, anon. I can't even imagine what I would do if one of my guns was stolen; I love them all far too much.

>>33481575
Latin American culture enthusiast.
Disclaimer: The Wall can't be built soon enough; illegals need to be physically removed 100%, whether by boxcar or bullet.

>>33481722
You track down the ones responsible and shoot them in the dick.

>>33481774

Agreed. And good taste anon. It's nifty in its own little way. It screams money, power, capitalism.

I've been holding off building a version of Maria from New Vegas.

>>33475691
Goddamn that is beautiful. I need to get one.

>>33480243
Me too! 45 colt is so much more flexible than .44 magnum. Larger diameter bullet, lower pressures (less recoil due to bigger brass) and can handle a lot more power (out of a stronger firearm)

>>33481282
thats pretty

>>33481247
A B U T E'
B
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>>33475599
>good luck on getting the Melbourne Ministry of Correct Thinking letting you have any rights

She's American, lives in America. I'll be joining her shortly. And escaping this 1984 shithole.

>>33475683
What's the mechanical difference between the clinton lock and not? Doesn't seem to functionally alter the firearm if it's not used.

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memiest wheelgun?

>>33484575
The cuckhole sometimes unintentionally engages if a hot round rocks the gun with enough force.

>>33458949
Not that guy but whenever I try to find starters kits for reloading I'm a bit lost
Could you explain the barebones of equipment and what they do?

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>>33484926
needs pic related if you really want to meme

>>33485010
>powderscoop
It is cheaper and gets you close enough in terms of powder volume without going into automatic chargers. There should be a manufacturer guide for how many grains in a scoop, dont use black powder volumentric measurements.
>scale
It double checks your work, I would strongly advise you get one but you don't strictly need it. Beam balance is recommended but look around for what others use in terms of digital scales.
>press
Single stage will do you fine but if you plan on reloading a lot I'd get a turret.
>dies
Main choice is taper vs roll crimp, taper is fine for most applications but for very hot loads or lever guns I'd get a roll crimp. You need to make sure your bullets are cantillured so the crimp has something to grab.

If you don't have a sturdy desk to bolt it on to they sell stands. A solid work surface to work on with presses makes all the diffrence in the world.

>>33485102
So besides shells,powder,primers, etc, those are all I need to get started?
Thanks, I always find myself lost at why I need most of the shit they suggest

>>33472314
He also calls the cylender a clip multiple times

>>33485010
Different guy
Watch this video for a basic guide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4nh5kgCqBc

Here's a list of things you need to get started.
First, you need a sturdy desk to attach the press to.

>The press itself. This one is a turret press, which rotates and changes dies each time you crank the lever. You can also start with a single stage press. It's simpler, but it takes longer, starting off with a turret is perfect imo.
https://www.amazon.com/Lee-LP90811-Auto-Drum-Powder/dp/B000N8MURA/ref=pd_sim_200_5?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000N8MURA&pd_rd_r=C531T80P7KAFPR953BAC&pd_rd_w=0fZEx&pd_rd_wg=Rcb6D&psc=1&refRID=C531T80P7KAFPR953BAC

>A die set for the press that matches the caliber you are reloading. This one is .357 magnum. The dies are used for seating bullets and primers into cases.
https://www.amazon.com/Lee-Precision-Magnum-Carbide-Silver/dp/B00162PTE8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1490939909&sr=8-2&keywords=lee+357+die

>A powder drum for the press, dispenses powder into the case.
https://www.amazon.com/Lee-LP90811-Auto-Drum-Powder/dp/B000N8MURA/ref=pd_sim_200_5?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000N8MURA&pd_rd_r=C531T80P7KAFPR953BAC&pd_rd_w=0fZEx&pd_rd_wg=Rcb6D&psc=1&refRID=C531T80P7KAFPR953BAC

>A primer feed, dispenses primers into the case.
https://www.amazon.com/Lee-Precision-Safety-Primer-Large/dp/B00162POP2/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1490940230&sr=1-1&keywords=lee+safety+prime

>Powder scoops to help you measure powder
https://www.amazon.com/Lee-Precision-Powder-Measure-Kit/dp/B000N8OIE8/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1490940384&sr=1-1&keywords=powder+scoop

>A scale to weigh powder. This one is digital, but you can get a mechanical one too.
https://www.amazon.com/Frankford-Arsenal-205205-Digital-Reloading/dp/B002BDOHNA/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1490940430&sr=1-3&keywords=powder+digital+scale

>>33485205
>A kinetic bullet puller. For taking apart cartridges that you fucked up on.
https://www.amazon.com/Frankford-836017-Quick-n-EZ-Impact-Bullet/dp/B001B7ZB4Q/ref=pd_sim_200_9?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B001B7ZB4Q&pd_rd_r=YH9CRA96A6B8XJN2TSM9&pd_rd_w=ViAWC&pd_rd_wg=cNpyY&psc=1&refRID=YH9CRA96A6B8XJN2TSM9

>A case tumbler. To clean and polish dirty brass that you've fired.
https://www.amazon.com/Frankford-Arsenal-855020-Quick-n-EZ-Tumbler/dp/B001MYGLJC/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1490940522&sr=1-1&keywords=brass+polisher

>you also need a cleaning media to fill the tumbler with
https://www.amazon.com/Zilla-Reptile-Terrarium-Bedding-Substrate/dp/B000OQRGF2/ref=pd_sim_200_4?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000OQRGF2&pd_rd_r=PY3FA8CVQVJKZ30HVHWN&pd_rd_w=2VS5v&pd_rd_wg=hCvMx&psc=1&refRID=PY3FA8CVQVJKZ30HVHWN

>a case prep tool. lets you pop out spent primers, trim the edges of casings to be uniform
https://www.amazon.com/Lyman-Case-Prep-Multi-Tool/dp/B004MCMCYE/ref=pd_sim_200_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B004MCMCYE&pd_rd_r=MR0TR2PAK72CCJ46V8FW&pd_rd_w=t8MoU&pd_rd_wg=jVuuT&psc=1&refRID=MR0TR2PAK72CCJ46V8FW

>optional, a case trimmer. it will cut cases down to a uniform length if you're reloading cases from a bunch of different sources. if you buy or reload cases from a single source, you don't really have to worry about it

>>33485010
You need a manual. You need a press, which your dies and shellholder attach to so that you can resize and deprime brass, seat bullets, and crimp cases etc. You need a die set for the caliber you plan on loading and a shellholder to hold the cases on the press when you press the cases up into the dies. You need a powder measure, scale, accurate calipers, a method of priming your brass, and some method of trimming your brass. You'll also need the components to make cartridges, i.e. cases, primers, bullets, and powder.

Step one would be buying the manual. I've got Hornady and Lyman manuals. Both have really well put together instructions and explanations in the first portion of the books. Personally I like the Hornady book better than the Lyman one, but the Lyman one cost me less and has some nice features like pointing out which powder is most economical for the cartridge and bullet weight you're loading.

If you're really on a budget, Lee equipment is pretty inexpensive. That said I've been buying my stuff a little at a time rather than cheaping out so I can afford to get it all at once.

Really, you don't necessarily need a press. For pretty cheap you could get one of the Lee Loader kits and some Lee case prep tools for case trimming, chamfering, and primer pocket cleaning, you can make yourself lots of light loads and still save a lot of money on ammo without being able to make the kind of loads you would be able to with a proper press, dies and scale. I'd still advise getting calipers too.

>>33459936
>>33460594
Not only is it lighter than a nerf gun (feels like a cheap toy) with a faux hammer, strange trigger, and an ugly seam, it is not $200 overpriced, I'd say closer to $400+ seeing as the last one I saw was $1000. I could see it being $600 maybe since it's unique, but unique doesn't mean quality.

>>33485205
I fucked up on the first link.
This is the turret press.
https://www.amazon.com/Lee-Precision-Classic-Turret-Press/dp/B003BWTF1E/ref=pd_sim_200_6?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B003BWTF1E&pd_rd_r=TJBKV8ANCPHBJBD8XMBD&pd_rd_w=RtpVa&pd_rd_wg=EMhlP&psc=1&refRID=TJBKV8ANCPHBJBD8XMBD

>>33484926
Maybe I can give you some background on the rails.
The guys that draw out the concept had the target shooters in mind. (And can be found on alot of competitions themselfs)
So: make a great base gun and design it to fullfill the needs on different disciplines.
So it's not only the rails. Also the overall weight, lenght, trigger weight etc.
The side rails for example can be fitted with blocks for 'bianchi barricade'. The top for 'open' or 'optical' etc.

>>33474510
>>33474459
All pewter contains leads. Food grade materials (eg, fancy wine cups, bowls) are usually covered with a clear enamel. Hopefully these grips have the same. sage

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>>33461273

"Is X a meme?" should result in an immediate ban.

>>33484936
Is this an empirical mechanical flaw of the weapon which is documented well enough for me to believe you or is this one of those urban legend anecdotes that plague the firearms community.

>>33459514
You're going to want to buy a Jericho or you are literally wasting money.

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>>33460020

You missing a whip there?

>>33458798

S&W 19-3, my favorite all around gun.

>>33483052
Wat

Why

>>33480062
If it's tasteful.

Though if you want flashy, I think it's easier to aim for a stainless gun given a real thorough polish to be all shiny, it's cleaner and easier to maintain, then combine that with some fancy or clean looking grips.

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>>33466195
Coonan .357 1911 if you are a big guy you can ccw it. I want one bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKM5B7ykQBs

>be wheelcuck
>go to regional IDPA match
>shoot ESR class
>1st place
>no trophy because I was the only shooter in ESR
>go home
>cry myself to sleep

>>33484926
You don't know what a meme actually is. So no

>>33483192
Outside of specifically selected guns the bullet diameter is negligible, low-ball .44mag and .44 special exists and any numbers you may be chasing for hot ammo either will also be negligible.

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is this a place for AK-47s?

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>>33486857

>>33486342
While I do love my Jericho, there are other handguns out there.

>>33486323
It's theoretically possible with any S&W revolver with the internal lock, but it's only documented with heavy magnum loads in the 329PD (a .44 Mag that weighs about the same as a Glock 19).
https://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2007/08/s-revolver-safety-failure.html

>>33486323
It doesn't happen frequently, but it does happen. Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsIWXd_9xPE

>>33487045
It can happen with larger and heavier revolvers too. See above.

>>33478920
>Why do you think that leaving mags loaded damages them? Read about how springs work. You could leave them loaded for 100 years and they'll be as good as the day you bought them.

There is an easy way to disprove this. Take one of your handguns, and measure how much force it takes to rack the slide. Then lock the slide to the rear and don't touch the gun for a month. Afterwards, measure how much force it takes to rack the slide (you will notice a difference even without tools).

>inb4 spring compression damage somehow happens to recoil springs but not magazine springs

Yes, I'm sure all of the youtubers who insist that spring compression is a myth and never happens under any circumstances ever are more qualified to speak on this topic than police armorers, who universally recommend 90 day rotations.

>>33461048
that's exactly how i prefer my women

>>33483281
take it easy, my dick can only get so hard

>>33483281
MODS

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I've done some googling and I haven't been able to find much difference other than preference and price between the GP100 and Redhawk.

Anyone know why the Redhawk costs several hundred dollars more than the GP100?

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New grips have arrived

I fucking love them, thanks drunk me

>>33487799
Redhawk is much stronger and you can get much more creative with handloading.

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>>33487847
Those are fucking nice, anon. Cheers.

What does revolver g think of the LCRx 3" ? I'm thinking about getting one in the near future. Was originally thinking of SP101, but I plan to mostly just 38SPL out of it and if I carry it, +P. Think this one would be a little more fun to plink at the range with, stuff in a bag when I go camping, all that jazz.

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>>33487985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRUq3NtnC7k
grandpa H did a video on it, he probably knows more than anyone here

>>33488045
Thanks anon, I watched this one and it's what kinda got me interested in this gun actually. I also looked into it and you can swap the grip for the shorter grips as well, so that adds some lust to it. Makes it a real versatile and silly revolver, and I dig it.

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>>33487799

That particular redhawk is a brand new .357, its so fucking nice. I cant wait to get mine in.

>>33487985

Fuck thats prolly a rad little gun.

>>33488279
if you give me that, ill give you my well used LCR

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>>33488424

Keknaw

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>>33488289
I set a goal to bolster my savings and shoot the guns I own for a while, once I hit 10k saved I plan to very likely get that LCRx 3", a 38SPL loader, and a pile of ammo.

Until then, I'll keep plinkin' with my 22 Uberti, range tripping with my M&P40, and innawoods fun with pic related.

>>33460020
are you my grandpa? grandpa you died years ago you cant come back.

>>33475632
I'd add that the SP101 handles and shoots like a medium frame gun even though it's a small frame revolver.

>>118680012
>Ruger LCRx in 357 shipped today
Can I be friends with you guys when I get it?

>>33489066
>Mobile posting
I don't know who I was responding to.

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>>33479293
Lady that ran the LGS I used to go to before they closed told me back when Dirty Harry came out, there was a run on Model 29s. A good number showed up back at her shop in practically new condition with just six rounds fired through them. Mine was a pawn shop find and was in rough shape with some rust and quite a bit of wear. It was somebody's favorite woods gun. I figure it came to me after a father or grandfather died and the family pawned it for whatever they could get for it. It's mechanically sound and cleaned up pretty well.

>>33480754
No. There is a lock, but it's on the back of the hammer.

>>33489108
That's a great-looking revolver. Honest wear is sexy as hell.

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>>33458798
Here's my shitty little revolver. US Revolver Co (Budget brand name for Iver Johnson.) .38 S&W.

PITA to find ammo for, because everyone thinls I want S&W brand .38 Special.

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>>33489187
Best I can tell is that it's from the 1910's.

>>33489187
Searching for 9x20 R should be easier than .38 S&W

>>33489429
I've found a local source of it. Too bad it's 30 bucks a box (33.3% the price of the revolver).

I'll probably order a few boxes online next time I order enough to justify the shipping prices.

>>33489451
Tell me about it, I spend almost $40 on a 100 box of .38sp and it about kills me every time

I just love shooting it so much though, I was thinking about getting a little .22 revolver so I could cut plinking costs and bring out the BIG MEAN .38 when I feel like blowing $40 in a few hours

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>>33489169
Thanks. I have tendency to adopt older well used revolvers. Pic related was another pawn shop find. It's a 1973 New Model Blackhawk in .45 Colt. The barrel had been cut down to 3 1/2" and it had a ton of wear on it. Once it took it to the range, I realized one chamber was cracked where someone had found the upper limits of .45 Colt handloads. It was past my level of ability, so I sent it to Ruger for repair. They informed me they would have to replace the barrel and cylinder and it would cost $300. I agreed. They did a whole lot more than that. All the internals as well as the hammer, trigger, base pin, ejector rod and housing have been replaced and the gun has been completely refinished. The ejector rod housing is steel instead of aluminum. All in all, basically it's a better than New factory gun now.

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It's not even $30 for 100, it's $30 for 50.

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>>33489468
If you go for a .22 revolver, go ahead and spring for a nice one, like a S&W K Frame. Pic related. S&W Model 17-6

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>>33489480
christ

>>33489530
About how much was that?

That's really nice and actually looks like my .38 now
>>33487847

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>>33458798
Help me identify this thing /k/.

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>>33489451

Get some Starline brass and reload for it. It is so low pressure the brass will last forever and components are dirt cheap. Normally .38S&W uses a .360 bullet but you can get away with using the cheaper and easier to find .357 bullets if you still have anything resembling rifling left. I still don't cast my own but 500 hardcast .357 bullets are like $30.

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What is your all's thoughts on the new colt cobra. A six shot pocket revolver sounds great but im new to double action defence revolvers.

>>33489606
what's the price and did they fuck it up

>>33489601
looks like a gun

>>33489601
That's a mosin-nagant revolver you cunt now git out.

>Fucking newcucks.

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>>33489606

Looks like ass. Cashing in on a legendary name with some half-wrought piece of shit at a premium price.

>>33489606
>Bring back the Detective Special
>Call it the Cobra just to fuck with people
Colt can go eat a dick.

Is uberti stuff any good?

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>>33490743
Yes. Get a Walker. Walkers are the best.
>When you need a gun that says, "Fuck you AND the horse you rode in on."

>>33490743
I got a cattleman II, that's nice. had to loctite a screw or two, but no other problems since then

>>33487799

Redhawk is a bigger gun. GP100 can't shoot six shots of .44 or any .44 mag. The Redhawk is also an older design based on the Security Six.

>>33461273
It's in CSGO so it's obviously a meme gun.

>>33489871
From the thumbnail I thought that was a boot. Fuck

>>33487066
Which brand would you recommend as an alternative to S&W?

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>>33491643
Manurhin.
Seriously, though, get a S&W and just remove the lock if you're planning on using it for social work.

>>33491721
My fiance' is planning on using it for home defence or to toy around with on her fathers land.

I'm not familiar enough with the law in her state to actually recommend her that.

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>>33491738
In theory, and by "theory" I mean "Massad Ayoob's paranoid imagination", removing a """safety feature""" from her gun could bite her in the ass in a civil suit.
Many states, however, have laws protecting you from civil liability in the event of a clean self-defense shooting.

>>33491791
Aighty then. I'll do some reading, but that's what i figured. Thankyou.

I'm not really finding anything reliable regarding the internal lock mechanism on these modern S&W's. Or their failure rate.

>>33489620
Msrp 699 and i dont think so? They say they smoothed the action up. I never held an old one

How much extra work is it to keep a blue revolver from rusting vice a stainless one?

>>33492156
Blueing is a thin finish on top of the metal
Stainless is a property of the steel itself

As long as you use a good protectorant, it's not a big deal. However avoid ammonia based cleaning products because they damage the blued finish.

>>33492969
Is CLP adequate, or would I need something like wax?

>>33493052
I use Frog Lube CLP, most CLPs have no ammonia, so should be fine.
It's generally the copper fouling solvents that have ammonia.

Also not wearing the finish is important, so start using brass/aluminum tools instead of steel if you're not already.

>>33493092
What's a good ammonia-free copper solvent?

>>33491643
Smith and Wesson makes some revolvers with no internal lock. They are all DAO J-frames, however.

That said, you don't necessarily need to rule out S&W completely because of the lock, unless it is a revolver you plan to use for personal protection. If that is the case, you should look at a Ruger revolver.

The only four companies in the world who are still producing revolvers that are made well are Ruger, Smith and Wesson, Manurhin, and Korth. The latter two companies are low production semi-custom/custom outfits that charge anywhere between $2800 to $6000+ for people in the United States, so they are not a feasible option for many people.

>>33491092
>modern-production Walker
You now have my attention. And my erection.

>>33493175
Hoppe's M-Pro 7 Copper Remover has no ammonia
Frog Lube Degreaser also has no ammonia and while it's not specifically a copper solvent, it's pretty good at cleaning copper anyway.

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>>33493574
Thanks; I decided I'll just get the 629 and not worry about it.

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>>33465920
>6/10, too much hammer
I do want one of those wood grips some day, though a more natural finnish.

I love my sp101, but the trigger truly is terrible, however getting used to it puts lead in your pencil and really makes you appreciate a 'good' trigger. I want to upgrade the front to a night sight, try some different grips (the stock one is comfy and love the wood inserts it came with), and have the trigger worked on

I have rarely felt outgunned with it, I stay out of bad neighborhoods and have great situational awareness. I take atleast 1 speedloader with me, sometimes 2 depending on the situation/cloths, and keep a couple more and an extra box of .38s, and a box of .357s in the car. Carry 158grn gold dots, and the speed loaders the same. I've put a lot of rounds through her, so controlling it isn't too bad after practicing. Reloading isn't terrible with speedloaders and training either

I carry this because it's adequate at stopping a would be mugger/robber/carjacker/junkie. I will probably never have to draw it in anger, and even less likely to be in some sort of shootout where I would be thinking "oh no all those glockfags on the Somali sign language symposium were right all along!!"

It's not my job to engage a shooter with my snubnose, especially if I can get away. My revolver is so I can get the fuck away, grab my wife (who also carries), continue breaking the line of sight, and blow through any faggots blocking my exit route

If I run out of ammo I can just beat the rest to death with it since it's a fuckin' brick