why does /k/ hate the U.S. military so much?

We do?

Don't really defend anything other than the current globalist hegemony of the United States.

because you touch yourself at night

I don't hate the US military, it was a US Marine that broke cover to drag me to safety in Afghanistan.

>>33453536
Because I was active duty, never got deployed and still feel salty about it.

yes why do the goyim hate the US Military?? Don't you goyim want to rid the middle east of violence? Be a good goy and enlist today

Thank you for your service

>>33453605

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>>33453605
be a good goy

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>>33453582
This desu
>tfw got stuck in Hawaii
A- at least the hiking and beaches were nice

Because people posting here who are in there 20s today were kids when 9/11 happened, so they've had time to grow out of the patriotic phase we were all forced to go through.

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>>33453654
>Tfw injured during pre deployment training for Afghan and had to remaster due to not being fit for combat role anymore

It's a parasitic entity.

>>33453536
U.S. military hates itself.

>>33453856
everybody hates everybody and everybody also hates themselves, it's a vicious cycle of hate.

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>>33453582
>tfw got "deployed" to turkey
>mfw it was just a shitty tdy
>mfw turkish coup happened in the middle of the time I was there
Fuck that place

>>33453582
THAT IS ME GODDAMN IT WHY DID I EVEN TRY

>>33453536
They're nothing but a bunch of D- students who skirted their way through High school.

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I'm stationed at Fort Polk. Only ten more months left until I escape this hellhole.

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>all of these people mad about not being deployed

yeah its so fun going to Afghanistan and then getting shot at by an RPG while riding in a humvee, and then having the shrapnel completely shatter your kneecap and being a prosthetic fag for life

go fuck yourself

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>>33454166


>military indoctrinates willing, able bodied people to go fight and die on a whim

>military does not send said trained and indoctrinated people to go and fight, instead the bathrooms must be cleaned and parking lot cleared of trash

>same people need to vent anger and stress at not doing what they were trained to do

who was at fault here again?

>>33454181
lol you think people join because they love their country

no, 90% of them join because benefits

Because it's a tool of the jews to destroy the world

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>>33454193

nah bruh.

you'd be surprised at the people I work with who genuinely believe in patriotism. usually these are the people who are the hardest to get along with. shocking I know.

>>33454230
military patriotism was cool right up until ww2 when america just became an arm of the jews

id rather have patriotism for other things

>>33453869
Agreed, fuck Turkey.

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>>33454237
fair enough. I still think patriotism is cool. I think that uneducated people who blindly follow a cause and claim that it's patriotism is sheer stupidity however.

>>33453606
You ... you too

>>33453536
I don't hate the US military. Alot of my family was in the service. I'm just too "bad" to be in the ARMY. I would still like to do contract work for the gubment.

/k/ doesn't hate the US military

We make fun of MUHREENS and dislike/taunt the ATF because they're tryhard boots who love to tread on snek

Most /k/ommandos like every other branch and law enforcement group and consider them cool operator tier jobs

Anyone one on /k/ who doesn't like the US military shouldn't be here.

Not American. Foreigner. Not hating the US military. Might have a few issues with the civilian leadership of the US and the politics that decides which top brass gets to be in charger, but that does not transfer to hatred of your soldiers. They'll be goofballs for as long as fighting means fighting in somebody elses country but that's the age we live in.

Just banter lad

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>>33453536
Because those elitist recruiter cucks wouldn't let me join after I demonstrated what badass operator I would be and got scared. My obesity had nothing to do with my rejection.

>>33453536
Slaviboos are cancer

I don't hate the military. I hate members of the military who think I owe them respect because they flunked out of high school and didn't know what else to do with their lives.

>>33454237
>da juice

Shit triggers me because it shows a complete ignorance of US/Isreal military history.

Protip: we told them to fuck off once and the 2nd time wetold them to fuck off until they blackmailed us.

>>33455226
>highschool drop outs are let into the military

Kek

>>33455254
>until they blackmailed us.
So, basically,
>the jews

>>33455212
This. Slaviboos are assmad that their disfunctional 80s tier military for BTFO in every regard (except for commanding officers but that's a discussion that belongs on /pol/)

>>33455274
It was a clever move at the perfect time, but it was legitimately the only option left to them.

Jews or not I can't blame them for trying it, again, they had no other options.

But I digress, calling the US a Jewish puppet during and after wwii is full on ignorance. If you want to pull that shit at least make it reasonable, the 80s.

>>33454237
>>33455254
The US has been an arm of the Jews since before 1776.

The Jews actually know what they're doing. That's why the US so quickly became the dominant world super power.

>>33455318
Then why did we refuse to come to their aid, twice?

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>>33453536
We don't.

>>33455327
>Israel
>the Jews

Not the same. Israel is for nationalistic Jews, not the Jews that run things

>>33455306
>but it was legitimately the only option left to them.
Only thing that changes is whether the participation is coerced or not. That doesn't change the fact of participation.

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>>33455327
Because the Jews are the Superhuman Subhumans that control the world?

>>33455394
You can hardly say the US is the arm of the jews when it is coerced, and only after ignoring them after the formation of their state.

>>33455370

>puts tinfoil on tighter when proven wrong

Why am I not surprised?

Anyways, the Jews don't run things, the reptillains do, dumbass.

>>33453536

because I enlisted at 18 and have regretted it ever since

I'm still in college while all my friends are working midlevel jobs.

>>33455436
Your friends are in a fuckton of debt if they choose the same path as you (unless full ride). You are still better off, respectively.

Your real mistake was not entering a trade.

militaries were made redundant by atomic bombs. it's just a psychopath containment and welfare program at this point.

>>33455432
>You can hardly say the US is the arm of the jews when it is coerced
Again, that doesn't change the fact that US acts on their behalf. The alleged coercion is what makes some people upset over jewish influence.

>>33453582
>>33454007
i know your pain....
>now imagine going to school near the last duty station, because the school is the best for your career...

i watched fuckers i knew finally get deployed. granted were just pogs, but i can never relate even in the slightest to other vets who deployed....

>>33453582
>>33453654
>>33453869
>>33454007
>>33455493

thank you for your services heroes

>>33455463
Wew laddy, where to begin....

>>33455476
But did not up until that point, which was far, far after WWII.

Then it can be argued that the pure military support ended after the six day war. Isreal is not even the highest recipient of US FMF either, that would be Iraq and Afghanistan.

Hell, pure kickback wise the Saudis kill it.

When I actually looked into the pol memes I was dissapointed.

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>>33454193
>90% join because benefits

>>33454166
i just wanted to contribute....i litterally joined only to contribute....

i first wanted to enlist as a medic because i was so fucking tired as a kid seeing dead soldiers on the news. that honestly contributed to 100% of my fucking angst as a teen.

so i join, medic is not an option and they told me "youll most likely get put in a hospital anyways, just pic something els"

so i pic my seccond option.
i get bounced around the world
no deployment in sight
i get broken
i get out


on the plus side my aircraft did merk a lot of goat fuckers after i left.

>>33455463
t. someone who has never heard of the Cold War

>>33453536
Nobody here cares what color the firetruck is, /k/ommandos bark at all of them.
US military is Amerifats, IDF is JIDF, Russians are Vatniks. An outsider visitor to /k/ will get the impression that the Turkish army eats kebab all day long and has a terrible roach infestation.
Welcome to the cesspit of 4chan: everyone is always a faggot, especially OP.

>>33455519
Israel currently benefits from Saudi Arabia and its policies in the middle east, though.

>Isreal is not even the highest recipient of US FMF either, that would be Iraq and Afghanistan.

Oh man, that's awful. I'm sure Israel wishes that money was going to something useful instead of US puppet states like Iraq that Israel doesn't have to worry about as well as terror organizations like ISIS that systematically opposes Israeli adversaries while providing for cheap oil to Israel.

>>33453869
Agreed fuck that shit heap. 1st "combat deployment" was Kosovo. I did shit but get drunk and bang a Albanian bartender named Nora on post. 2nd was iraq and 5 weeks in got fucked by a ied in al hay. Got lucky a ranger pulled my ass out and I got away with a titanium hip and short 3 toes.

>>33455616
>Israel currently benefits from Saudi Arabia and its policies in the middle east, though.

That clearly has not always been the case.

>muh isis

The only thing stopping Isis from attack Isreal is geography and mulisim infighting.

>Isis gives oil and/or oilmoney to isreal

Kek, that's a new one. By all means, substantiate.

>>33455657
>That clearly has not always been the case.
The amount of support we give to the Saudis is proportional to how favorable their nation is to Israel

>The only thing stopping Isis from attack Isreal is geography and mulisim infighting
The enemy of my enemy is my? Also it helps we have an air and ground campaign to corral them into fighting the right people.

>Isis gives oil and/or oilmoney to isreal
I never said that. I said they provide for cheap oil to Israel.

>Kek, that's a new one. By all means, substantiate.
Crude oil for Raqqa goes to Turkey and to Kurds in northern Iraq for half the price of WTI/Brent prices. Guess who buys oil from Turkey and the Kurds? This is a widely documented occurrence.

http://ig.ft.com/sites/2015/isis-oil/
https://www.ft.com/content/b8234932-719b-11e5-ad6d-f4ed76f0900a
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-kurdistan-oil-idUSKCN0T61HH20151117
https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/features/2015/11/26/raqqas-rockefellers-how-islamic-state-oil-flows-to-israel

>>33455573
>An outsider visitor to /k/ will get the impression that the Turkish army eats kebab all day long and has a terrible roach infestation.

But this is true

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1) because I come from a family of veterans, and my own father, a Major, told my sister and I growing up to NEVER join the military.

2) because they serve the interests of the Rosthchild banks. I like them marginally more than whomever calls the shots, and while Trump was the obvious choice for me over Hillary, jury's still out on whether he's anything but a big distraction tactic. The Globalist's backup plan, to keep everyone placid in case their gal Hilldawg lost.

When US soldiers are walking bankers out of the Federal reserve for deportation, military intelligence are dismantling the CIA, and Seals are raiding Soros' and Rockefeller's mansions, I'll be their biggest fan.

>>33455799
>The amount of support we give to the Saudis is proportional to how favorable their nation is to Israel

100% false. See the Arab oil crisis.

>The enemy of my enemy is my?

This does not mean they are in cahoots, or one is controlled by the other.

>substantiation....

Nobody said the Kurds are not selling to the global market, but that ISIS is.

The sources you posted are contradictory, with only reuters posting logical conclusions based on Kurdish controlled areas oil production in IRAQ. (which is something they always done).

Your last source is full on hilarity. I mean 10/10.

Let's ignore the fact that it qquoted it's own headline in the title...

>IS sells Iraqi and Syrian oil for a very low price to Kurdish and Turkish smuggling networks...

So, ISIS is funding it's main opposition.

God damn I love conspiracy theorys.

>>33455432
>gets butthurt and defensive
>hurr durr tin foil conspuracee
>being retarded about history and the reality of it

Grow a brain and learn how to understand shit

>>33455892
>brainlet upset I out conspiracyed him.


Fucking sheep I swear.

Don't mean to derail the thread, but can anyone tell the difference between multicam and OCP PCs?

I'm finally buying the new stuff and can't tell the difference between the multicam and ocp caps; is anyone going to be able to tell the difference and shit on me?

I don't want to go to clothing sales and get jewed when I could ebay it cheaper.

>>33455551
Did you mean
>a bunch of pansies that were afraid they might actually be a casualty of war instead of the soldiers and civilians that actually die in war
But the wimpy "leaders" didn't want to actually lose the war so they bluffed back and forth until they got tired of it.

>>33455933
>got tired of it

Geopolitical reshaping is "getting tired of it". Let me guess....15 years old?

Go sit in the corner and shut up, kid.

>>33455945
Excuse me: got tired of overtly doing the Cold War.

Is that better? Not using nukes in war is the most retarded things is the conception of "War Crimes."

>>33455961
Your right, they both decided to do it more covertly, with one side deciding the best way to do this is to economically shit the bed for two decades and go in massive decline.

Yep. Got a real fucking thinker over here boys.

The corner. Now.

>>33455970
>what is losing a war

It's not rocket science. Grow a brain

>>33456020
Losing a war is not "getting tired of it" or "deciding to go more covert".

When you graduate highschool you might figure this out.

>>33456030
>>33455970
>>33455945
Y'know, people only try to use age as an insult when they're trying to hide the fact that they are young themselves.

>>33456030
Lmao I'm a kid because you can't understand that two countries can covertly be at war and one of them be winning while the other is losing?

Life must be very black and white, for you, you simpleton.

>>33456099
I guess when I call you a retarded faggot it would mean I'm a gay imbecile?

>>33456109
>losing, not lost
>lmao

Yes, you are a kid.

The corner awaits.

>>33455917
uh are you colorblind?

>>33455878
>100% false. See the Arab oil crisis.

>Saudis take unfavorable stance against Israel
>US Saudi relations worsen
I don't see anything contradictory about this.

>Nobody said the Kurds are not selling to the global market, but that ISIS is.
ISIS sells to middlemen and not to the global market. They provide for the conditions of cheaper oil in the region (i.e. cheap crude source).

>So, ISIS is funding it's main opposition.
Not directly. They are selling to middlemen who buy directly from the oil fields and transport it to other regional/global sellers like Turkey and Kurdistan via trucks. ISIS is not telling these people who to sell to because the middlemen are independent of ISIS as well as Turkey/Kurdistan. Secondly, Kurdistan also gets oil from Turkish pipelines (who gets some from ISIS) to sell to Israel as well.

>>33456318
>>US Saudi relations worsen

Uhhh....no. if anything post crisis it tightend to prevent it. During the crisis is was 100% engagement to the Saudis to resolve it.

Please learn your history.

>Muh middlemen

Which would mean the Kurds are funding ISIS via proxy, just as retarded.

The only oil the Kurds are selling is Kurdish oil they get themselves. The only way you could argue that ISIS is involved is that they created the environment where Kurds could do this en mass rather than when they could. But you didn't. You went with the absolutely retarded middleman route.

>>33456273
Maybe.
But the Army says I'm not.

>>33454193
The benefits are nice, but that's not the only reason I joined. I did actually want to contribute a little.

>>33453536
9 times out of 10 it's envy that they couldn't or didn't get the same life experience. Hating is just a coping mechanism.

>>33456422
https://history105.libraries.wsu.edu/fall2015/2015/08/30/changes-in-oil-prices-and-how-they-affect-different-economies/

>Throughout the embargo both countries endured many changes. Saudi Arabia had to loosen its ties with the U.S. due to pressure but on it by the other Arab nations and changed its foreign policy during the time.

Funny how you use the word tighten and the article uses the exact antonym of the word you picked.

>The only way you could argue that ISIS is involved is that they created the environment where Kurds could do this en mass rather than when they could.
Well is that the case or not as well?

>You went with the absolutely retarded middleman route.
You're pretty obtuse for thinking these low level oil operations are anything more than a cash grab by anyone directly involved. What is inconceivable about an independent purchaser of oil at an oil pit just outside of Mosul delivering oil to the Kurds because they can pay more than local Mosul market price is?

>Which would mean the Kurds are funding ISIS via proxy, just as retarded.
They seem to have no qualms about being heavily intertwined and helping Turkey with oil. If they so freely deal with Turkey on oil, then why would they be shy about the same thing with their other adversary?

http://ekurd.net/kurdistan-sell-oil-fields-turkey-2016-12-27
http://ekurd.net/kirkuk-oil-kurdish-middlemen-2016-03-31

>>33455436
>I'm still in college while all my friends are working midlevel jobs.

It's very likely you're overestimating where your friends are in their careers. It's very likely they spent the same amount of time you spent enlisted in unpaid internships and barely entry level positions in their fields.

>>33456632
well the army is kind of retarded so.. post a pic related of what you're talking about so i know we're both on the same page and i can diagnose you with autistic blindness

>>33455503
Kek

>>33456717
>They seem to have no qualms about being heavily intertwined and helping Turkey with oil.

This is something I think is an issue with people in the West: they don't realize that there are more factions than just "The Kurds" and each has their own interests and allies within the region. The PJAK are not the KDP are not the PYD are not the PKK even though some may be closer to each other in ideology and cooperation.

>>33456717
>Funny how you use the word tighten and the article uses the exact antonym of the word you picked.

Funny how we were talking about the US relations with SA and not the other way around.

>Well is that the case or not as well?

>>OH I CAN USE THIS ANGLE FOR MY THEROYS

No, it's not the case because A) you didn't present it, and B) it would require godlike omniscience. If you want to give the Jews godlike future knowledge, that's on you.

>low level oil operations
>multiple tanker ships and oil shipping conglomerates invovled

>What is inconceivable about an independent purchaser of oil at an oil pit just outside of Mosul delivering oil to the Kurds because they can pay more than local Mosul market price is?

An absolutely childlike view of how business is conducted, even in the ME.

>They seem to have no qualms about being heavily intertwined and helping Turkey with oil.

THEIR oil, that they extracted. No shit. Not oil from ISIS.

There is a very large difference between buying oil from ISIS and paying for rights to move oil though a country that they have no choice to do.

>>33456832
Right, so it wouldn't be inconceivable for some Kurds to sell oil to ISIS on the grounds of the both being adversaries, as some Kurds can be more sympathetic to money than an ideological view some kurds might not support as much.

>An absolutely childlike view of how business is conducted, even in the ME.
That's how it's done, though. There are literal open pits of crude oil outside of Mosul where trucks show up as part of low level arranged deals.

http://www.ibtimes.com/how-isis-oil-ended-us-streets-2344465

>There is a very large difference between buying oil from ISIS and paying for rights to move oil though a country that they have no choice to do.

Right, and in 2015 when oil prices crashed, there would there have been more incentive to cut costs where ever they could. Queue half price WTI/Brent crude from 3rd party salesmen.

http://www.mei.edu/content/low-oil-prices-complicate-iraqi-kurdish-independence

>>33456929
>Right, so it wouldn't be inconceivable for some Kurds to sell oil to ISIS
Sorry, I meant buy oil from ISIS.

>>33456934
Except for the fact that nearly all of the kurd factions are engaged in hostilities with ISIS, while only 2 have a real beef with turkey. You have it the opposite.

>>33456960
Ok, so why was it happening?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/islamic-state-was-making-1million-a-day-from-oil-sales-before-airstrikes-began/2014/10/23/34e1b0c4-5ae8-11e4-bd61-346aee66ba29_story.html?utm_term=.854bc8ccd9fc

>>33456929
>That's how it's done, though. There are literal open pits of crude oil outside of Mosul where trucks show up as part of low level arranged deal.

Except, contextually how it's done is without the knowledge of the Kurds, Isreal, or anyone but the manager who is told to look the other way on incoming shipments. They are mixing ISIS oil with legit Kurdish oil. It's not Kurds that are doing it, by your own article is Iraqi's. The Kurds are not really profiting off it, the Iraqi's are. It's also low level stuff.

So the original claim of isreal profiting off ISIS oil is bunk.

>oil price crash, half price Kurdish oil

Yes, due to arriving a large shipment from a war zone, from a seller who needs cash now.. Does not mean it's "muh ISIS oil".

>>33457013
Because ISIS themselves found black/grey market sellers.

Does not mean it was the Kurds. They have extremely negative incentives to knowingly deal with ISIS.

>>33453869
are you in 173rd or 10th aamd?

>>33457060
>Except, contextually how it's done is without the knowledge of the Kurds

Partially right. The individual smuggling actions are not arranged by any sate actors. However, it would be wrong to say that the Kurds are not aware there is smuggling going on. I believe the amount of knowledge they have is likely un-actionable and that state actors are largely acting bona fide.

My argument is that ISIS oil markets allow for cheap oil trade to occur in the region. Israel's main source of oil is from Kurdistan. It's been proven that Kurdistan launders and exports ISIS oil (again all likely unknowingly). ISIS also happens to be combating every regional adversary Israel has in Iraq, Syria, and even in a limited capacity in Yemen. Israel currently benefits from ISIS, the US, and Saudi Arabia for geopolitical control in the middle east.

>>33457072
I agree. My argument is that Israel has a lot of coincidentally winning strategies with everyone in the middle east that doesn't have good relations with Syria/Iran.

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Tfw ARNG so you get shit on by everyone.
A-at least we get cheap tricare.

>>33457340
>Israel currently benefits from ISIS, the US, and Saudi Arabia for geopolitical control in the middle east.
I also meant to say that even the money that the US has spent in Iraq has also gone to support Israel, even if by chance, through ISIS's actions against Israel's adversaries as well as Iraq selling cheap ISIS oil to Israel. Literally everything the US is doing in the middle east is benefiting Israel even if US dollars aren't being directly put into Israeli bank accounts. I meant all of this as a rebuttal to the gentleman that said we are spending more on other countries in the middle east besides Israel.

>>33454193
Most government jobs are better than the military.

>>33453536
Because it takes to many of my tax dollars and has killed too many of my fiends.

>>33457340
>Israel's main source of oil is from Kurdistan.

Whaokay. You can't just come in talking about who profits from what and make a statement like that

Very rarely does x buy oil from y. Again. This goes back to the AOC. It's all from the global market.

>My argument is that ISIS oil markets allow for cheap oil trade to occur in the region.

Except it does not trade to Isreal. Or Kurds. It goes to the global market illegally, or it finds actors to refine it for them elsewhere.

>s been proven that Kurdistan launders and exports ISIS oil

Kurdistan exports Kurdistan oil to the global market. Global, market. it goes everywhere. ISIS controlled oil has to be snuggled now because they lack refinerys.

>ISIS also happens to be combating every regional adversary Israel has in Iraq, Syria, and even in a limited capacity in Yemen.

Isreal had no major issue with post invasion Iraq. That's where shit falls apart with that theory. Iraq still and has depends(ed) on US for aid.

>Israel currently benefits from ISIS, the US, and Saudi Arabia for geopolitical control in the middle east.

Currently, yes. That's does not mean (again, contextually) that was always the case sense wwii. Nor does that mean they are pulling the Strings. The Swiss heavily benefited from wwii does that mean they were pulling the strings? The Japanese heavily benefitted from the Korean war, does that mean they were pulling the strings? Correlation does not equal cause.

>My argument is that Israel has a lot of coincidentally winning strategies with everyone in the middle east that doesn't have good relations with Syria/Iran.

When alot of those strategys involve standing back and letting the Muslim's infight, it's kind of hard to NOT have a winning strategy.

>>33457395
>as well as Iraq selling cheap ISIS oil to Israel

Again. Full stop. Prove a direct link between ISIS oil and Isreal that does not involve global markets.

You can't.

>I meant all of this as a rebuttal to the gentleman that said we are spending more on other countries in the middle east besides Israel.

We are. A strong Iraq also helps European country's who are more geographicly able to promote growth through business investments in the country.

Does this mean the US is funding the eurozone by funding Iraq?

With that logic is FMF funds the world.

>>33457486
>Whaokay. You can't just come in talking about who profits from what and make a statement like that

http://www.jpost.com/Business-and-Innovation/Israel-importing-77-percent-of-its-oil-from-Iraqi-Kurdistan-report-says-413056

>Except it does not trade to Isreal. Or Kurds.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/islamic-state-was-making-1million-a-day-from-oil-sales-before-airstrikes-began/2014/10/23/34e1b0c4-5ae8-11e4-bd61-346aee66ba29_story.html?utm_term=.7b189a4ee40e

>Does this mean the US is funding the eurozone by funding Iraq?
If the Eurozone's main source of business investment were to come from Iraq, I'd say it would be. See my above comment.

>>33457193
Neither, Chair Force security farces

>>33457542
>jpost

Made my point, once it his the global market the profit is the same no matter who the buyer or seller is. You pay the same PPB if you buy from x or y on the market.

>Washington post
Thats due to ISIS having the capability to refine the oil. Has nothing to do with crude. Once you have petrol, you can bypass a fuck ton of shit. You can sell directly to gas stations if you want.

>Isreals main source of business investment is iraq/ME.

Wewlad. They are western as fuck.

>>33457674
>You pay the same PPB if you buy from x or y on the market.

>The KRG has exported 514,236bpd in June at an average price of US$36.43 per barrel.
>June price of crude is $47.69

>Has nothing to do with crude
http://www.ibtimes.com/how-isis-oil-ended-us-streets-2344465

>Wewlad. They are western as fuck.
No, all the investment is being done by the US, which has entirely benefited Israel with all that we have been spending. Israel gets a series of proxy wars against its adversaries (plus benefits) for free. To say all of the money the US has put into the middle east outside of Israel has not been benefiting Israel is incorrect. It has all lead to developments that coincidentally favor Israel.

>>33454193

if you have ever had to deal with the VA, dogshit leadership, war trauma or anything of these categories then you would put your foot in your mouth before you ever said some stupid shit like this

there are people who join for college but at least they're pro-active in some sort of way instead of being stuck average and lame in some shitty neighborhood where there is fuck-all worth living for

>>33453550

This.

>>33457588
Moody AFB

>>33454133
>Giving a single fuck about highschool
B&

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>>33453536

>>33453536
because a third of the posters here got DQd from basic/MEPS/OCS, another third are too fat to have ever tried, and the last third are embittered alcoholic veterans who blame the military for their poor life choices.

>>33455476
>>33455892
You people are all fucking retards, Obama is behind all this shit. Retarded Jew shills, the illuminati loves you sheeple. Wake up

>>33457588
You guys are stupid af.

I did security for a pat missile site, had to work with af "SF."

I showed up and the sf commander shook my hand and said "yup, be on the lookout for my boys having buttsex and bonfires"

So there we are, chilling, when we see on our long range camera a lone afsf truck in the middle of the desert, doing fucking doughnuts. Only ever patrolled as lone vehicles.

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>>33453536
It should be privatized.

don't hate the military i was actually in DEP and 2 weeks before deployment i got into a car accident and hurt my spine more specifically my C7 vertebrate and i lost all feeling in my torso and arms for almost 6 months im perfectly fine now but i got DQ'd from my DEP and let go of contract. i got a nice 250k settlement check though from the chicks parents that hit me and i paid my way thru undergrad and currently in law school.

tl;dr got in car accident and got got my school paid for without having to die for the jews....now im going to be an immigration lawyer its a booming business with all the deportations going in right meow thanks based Trump

>>33455212
how long have you been here?

>>33457412
And most government jobs are harder to get.

The hoops I jumped through trying to be a corrections officer was significantly worse than what I went through for military.

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>>33453582
Those feels =/
Arrive to unit and I am to "Boot" to volunteer for an Afghan rotation. So I get my Brown belt, do PMI school because "we need bodies", go form 4 to 4.5 Pros and Cons, MOSscoreistodamnhigh.jpg about to EAS and I get a disc in my back herniated and guess what!?! My unit gets the call for mobilization for Syria! That gets tanked because the MEU a buddy of mine was on in 12" handled that. Finally get out and all my friends in the unit still deployed as fuck. Feels bad man =/
It sucks when you talk to other vets and they talk about deploying and shit. You don't even get to relate with your own kind because you trained and were willing to hook and jab to get benched. How fucked is that!?

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>>33453582
>Be 2009
>Already 1 hefty 15 month tour under my belt
>Forced to stay in past ETS date 1 year because Stop Lossed
>Almost impossible to get out of deployment with compromising any semblance of moral integrity
Man shit has really changed alot.

>>33460883
>Be 2005-06
>Get fucked up in jump school
>Show up to unit absolutely broke, sent to work in S1 shop
>All the NCO's berating me that I'll be left in S1 now
>Do physical therapy multiple times a week, while simultaneously begging my 1sg to let me back into my company
>Eventually my motivation pays off and they bring me back
> My shoulder is now completely fucked up because of the "suck it up mentality" that is pervasive in line units
Just take it easy on yourself bud

>>33453548
Isn't that their job?

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>>33453536
Because they won't let people with Autism join without jumping through a shit ton of waver hoops.

>>33461436
Tell me about it.

>>33461591
>>33461436
The fuck would you guys admit to having autism for at MEPS? Or could you not contain it? There are some absolutely autistic motherfuckers in the military, it's always been that way I'm sure

>>33453654
don't forget the traffic

>>33454155
damn bro, that place is the absolute fucking worst

>>33453869
Turkroachland is the cancer upon earth.

>>33453536
I'd say it's a minority that actually hates them, but the reason they hate the military is because they're either too fat or too stupid to get in

>>33462594

Well, it's quite common sense that there are a lot of people who hate the military, but not the soldiers. Of course, that is backwards and retarded because the soldiers are the worst part of it. Like do even need to be there for a modern war? They just go and clean things up after an airstrike.

>>33462870
>Like do even need to be there for a modern war? They just go and clean things up after an airstrike.

You answered your own question. Even with air superiority, you need boots on the ground to secure and hold the area.

>>33462975

Well of course, but do we really need so many of them? Can't they really just make a few really good soldiers instead of a million shitty ones? Holding ground is a tactic that doesn't work against terrorist in peace keeping missions. Raiding important targets like leaders and their economy is by far more effective, except in terms of 'creating jobs.'

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>>33453582
>>33453654
>>33454007
>>33460883

Try actually getting deployed to Iraq, do missions every other day (guard in between mission days) and then the only thing that happened the entire year was one IED went off and killed one of my good friends. I wasn't even in the convoy that day, I and two others were left behind to do PT, and we got the fantastic duty of dragging our dead tore up friend out of the humvee and running him to the aid station on a stretcher.

>have PTSD from seeing your friend tore up by EFP IED
>get blood all over you
>come back home
>OMG did you see combat?
>N-no
>Then why do you drink so much? Why do you get so angry? What is wrong with you?

>mfw

>>33463043
Air support is still support.

Especially if it's somebody like Iran that actually has a general staff that aren't complete dillholes, and a significant amount of semi-modern equipment.

Guys on camels calling in airstrikes isn't going to do you that much good against T-72s with IADS.

>>33463694
what was your friend like?

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half of /k/ is hooahs in their barracks rooms constantly shitting on muhreens

the other half are non military guys that actually use the board for what its intended for, posting about weapons.

>>33463694
im like 99% sure that gets you a badge as that is engagement by the enemy famalam.

I dont know how it works in the army but on my second pump we were the last show in town as far as marines went so tankers starting running over IEDs on purpose to get CARs.

>>33463753
he was a good man.
He had a wife and 1 year old son, was a Sgt when I met him as a Pvt, always took care of his soldiers, always put his soldiers first, every moment of his day consisted of training us in everything he knew about Infantry tactics and how to survive combat. He trained us day in and day out while other NCOs didn't give a shit and were only looking after themselves and being lazy. Our PLT Sgt was Black and Im from Alabama so he hated me for some reason which turned all the other NCOs away from me since they kissed so much ass. After he was killed my PLT Sgt told me that this Sgt was the only one who stood up for me, and always stood up for me and said I was one of the best soldiers in the PLT every chance he got. He always gave me responsibility and trusted me to get things done, which I did. After he was killed, other NCOs started treating me the same way, giving me responsibilites, putting me in charge, trusting me to get things done, etc.

I can honestly say he was the best soldier in our company, and the fact he got killed, out of all the shitty people we had in our company still bothers me many years later.

>>33463043
Holding ground does work. What are you talking about? If you take a village and then leave they move right back in. Either the military or a competent indigenous force needs to hold what you took or the whole thing is for nothing.

>>33463803
I wasn't in the convoy that got hit, I was back at the JSS doing PT, and got put on the stretcher bearer team.
No CAB for me.

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>>33463848
You may not have seen "combat" but you saw what it does and that is just as important. Even after I first shot someone I still thought it was a game until a marine during a clearing operation got blown apart and we had to pick up the pieces, and then an ANA got blown apart, triple amputee and begged us to shoot him because he knew that even if he survived there is no life for a cripple in afghan. More and more people kept getting blown apart. I just wanted to go home after that. I was pretty sure I was going to die.

You still saw more than 99% of people even in the military will see and actually contributed something as a stretcher bearer while POGs on superfobs eat pizza hut and come home with a hero's welcome and get 100% disability when they get out falsifying claims.

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>>33463837
sounds like a beautiful soul
Rest in piece

>>33463839

It hasn't work in Vietnam, South America, or Afghanistan for the last 75 years.

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>>33463776

The Marines while unneeded, are at least good at what they do. Infantry in the army suck ass.

Trust me I'm a specialist, picture related.

>>33460636
Doesn't surprise me. I already see us as a joke to the military sometimes

>>33453626
>6 whites, 4 non-whites

Hey I get it

>>33460708
We're getting there. The airforce is already more like a corporation than anything.

>>33454193

>i am the 90%

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>>33463776
>ДУК

>>33455318

>That's why the US so quickly became the dominant world super power

>founded 1776
>didn't become largest economy until ca. 1900
>didn't accept superpower status until after WWII

The Jews have a lot of time on their hands.

>>33461100
No, they're not really supposed to even exist.

>>33453582
>>33453654
>>33453674
>>33453869
>>33454007
>>33454155
>>33454166
>>33455529
>>33461073
>>33463694
This is my fear.

I fear joining and doing nothing but wear down my leg cartilage, but I also fear going on deployment and getting my leg cartilage artificially removed by shrapnel.

I want to do something. I don't just want to get hurt and miss the rest of it.

I'm sorry for posting.

>>33465075
the thing i learned is both branches are fucking retarded except Marines can actually get shit done, meanwhile army is just dumb all around in general. if you're not in one of those nice units then it's pretty fucked
>tfw been in both branches and both suck either way

>>33455197
underrated post

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>>33454230
>in the process of joining
>because of patriotism
>keep reading everywhere that "No anon is actually patriotic, just benefit hunting."
>think about the current politics of the U.S. and my enlistment
>still a patriot

What am I doing wrong?

I want to see why everyone doesn't believe in patriotism too.

>>33455226
Holy fug this is either God tier bait or you're legitimately five years old.

>>33455647
Never fired your gun?

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>>33454193
>Fucking leaf
>want to serve to explore the world, get fit and see the world for how it really is
>don't want to serve my shitty country
>parents would panic and force me to cancel anyways
Kill me

>>33469800
Join volunteer forces in another country.

Or join your local police force as long as you don't live in a shitty city.

>>33469558
Because people are complete and utter faggots anon


TFW I literally joined because I wanted to see combat
three years in and I haven't done shit

>>33470278
Get any extra training like airborne or air assault? You have a much higher chance of combat if you do when war finally comes again

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>>33463694
Hey my dude I wish I could meet a lot of the /k/ Veterans because I am all about sticking together. We are the only family we got other than the ones we have at home or have made. I saw one of my Sgts die in front of me in training. Dude was training some kids in the school house and his vic went down in the drink the wrong way. All the kids got out because of him but he didn't make it. I had to stand and watch as all the heads were coming up counting them off. 19 kids but no #20 he was #20 and it sucks even more because we had to go drag out that vic from the jetty. pic some what related.

>>33462870
That is completely wrong. Infrantry and co. make up the majority of combat fatalities, not bombs or missiles.

>>33463694
>PTSD
Sure bro. That's why you are a loser, some made up condition. Totally not because you don't want to get off your ass.

>>33468671

>>33470171
Leaf here, As much as I hate RCMP faggot kikes.
I think I would take the job seriously and the cops around here are not really active, so Id look like a try hard...Sad a few of my close buddy's are RCMP and would love the opportunity but they wont take me at all.

I've near about quit mentioning I'm a vet God forbid a Marine do to the bullshit thay comes with it. He typed as he lay in a bed post fucking back surgery from a fall @ Camp Lejeune

>>33454166
>not wanting to get medically retired and have tricare and a pension for life
>not wanting to lose that leg for extra disability money
>not wanting to just hit the gym and go to EDM shows for the rest of your life
>not wanting the ultimate ice breaker
>not wanting to buy shoes for half off
Get your shit together
I want one of them prosthetics that the amputee-sprinters in the special Olympics use so I can still run and shit.

>>33470278
So quit drinking on your time off and do additional PT.
Join SOF.