ITT we laugh at meme guns

>>33452138
>Handgun made by womyn run company.
It's not even funny at this point, its just sad.

>>33452138
The company owners looked ((())) as fuck. What did you expect

>>33452221
>General Fatton
More like General Faggon.

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>>33452138
>Over 1000 dollars

It looked kinda neat but fuck that

I think it looks cool. I still wouldn't buy it because $1000 gets you a lot of other things

>>33452138
I'd pony up the money for it.

>it flops
>prices drop to get rid of the stock
>get a meme spacegun on the relative cheap
Win win, baby.

why is it so bulky? is that somehow a selling point? what is the shit forward of the trigger for?

>>33452221
>Handgun made by womyn run company.
not really, her husband designed it, she's the pres/ceo of the company to give them good press and help get set asides

>>33452138
>preordering
Inb4 this ends up like the Desert Tec MDR. Is that thing even out yet??

>>33452574
Something along the lines that the recoil forces are applied lower under the barrel to reduce muzzle rise and effectively have a lower bore axis, since the recoil spring is in front of the lower part of the trigger guard instead of right under the barrel.

>>33452221

you get a competitive advantage in defense manufacturing if you're veteran owned, disabled veteran owned, or woman owned. don't hate the player, hate the game.

>>33452138
$245 is what it costs them to make it
$1145 is what they sell it for
that's a pretty good margin for a gimmick
i'm on the wrong business
i need to make some space gun and advertise that my company is run by strung indapendant womyns

>>33452637
>preordering
people are dumb enough to do this with guns too?
I guess it's not as dumb, since it's a physical thing and steam can't clone 10^10000 copies at will

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>>33452138
This is you right now, desu oniifam

>do want
>oh it's >$1,000
>BAHAH IT'S SHIT
Poorfags are so transparent.

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"Hey guys! Remember back when it was a meme to use the word 'meme' to mean something was bad? Hahaha, good times."

striker fired is just a poor man's LEM anyway, it's shit

>>33452138
and all this to get a 1911 trigger into a striker gun? wew lad.

>>33456079
you can get HK trash for that money HK fukkboi.

It seems pretty legit actually. At first the design screams gimmicky, but the science is sound, provided you subscribe to the low bore axis thing. 1145 isn't a bad price considering comparable pistols are around that cost as well.

I imagine the idea that it's a "meme" and this whole thread in general is due to the idea most people seem to have that all innovation is bad and firearms technology matured in the 60's and can nor will ever be improved upon

>>33456271
>but the science is sound

you mean put glock locking lugs one the muzzle of the barrel? if this is gud, where wil the newest fad, WML, go on this abomination? oh wait, it's just meant as a race gun and exists bc of the 1911 trigger.

>>33452544
>company goes under
>no place to get replacement parts

Don't forget that it's also a veteran run business. I get why they do this, but fuck them.

> muh pissflaps
> muh service

No thanks. Take your new blaster and shove it, Hudson.

>>33456359
Wait what? Locking lugs on the muzzle? What're you talking about?

>>33456811
the locking lugs which are in the end of a glock barrel, under the chamber are more towards the front in the hudson; hence why the gun looks as if t has a weapon mounted light fixed already - that's where the locking block is. there is nothing new about the gun, they are just shifting around established mechanical solutions to appeal to autists.

>>33452221
Another shitty trip? Kill yourself

>>33456842
Is that a bad thing, though? It's a steel Glock with a 1911 silhouette and trigger out-of-the-box. I'm sure someone likes the idea of having a pretty timeless frankengun like that. The shilling and gushing is annoying, but that's separate from the gun itself.

>>33455988
Dubs don't lie, stay mad poorfags

>>33456842

This >>33456874 is kind of what I thought they were going for. I realize it's nothing mechanically new, just in an innovative configuration to improve upon a know design by incorporating other well established designs.

>>33455988
Poorfags drive the gun industry
Why do you think cheaper guns still get sold?
Why do you think AR15s are so cheap
Why are handguns becoming polymer and cheaper?
HK doesn't sell that much to civilians
Neither does FN

>>33452574
its an integral suppressor

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>>33456811
Here ya go senpai

Looks neat. I wouldn't pre-order but if it still sounds good when it's out I'll probably pick one up.

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Would love to see them produce a successful pistol out of Texas. Will wait and see if it's reliable because generation one anything is a trial/error process. Hopefully they won't be plagued with recalls.

>>33455988
>hurr durr want to justify your purchase? HURR DURR IT'S A POOR FAG

LARP some more, neckbeard

>>33452247
Looked what?

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>>33457565
id put my recoil assembly into her lower center center of gravity, if you know what i mean.

>>33452138
I don't see the appeal.

>>33455648
>$245 is what it costs them to make it
This meme again.

>>33457565
>designer
Wasn't it her husband who did the actual work?

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i want to know how it's thumb safety that you can supposedly get for it will compare to a real 1911.

>>33457616
Any gun that is competently manufactured is going to have absurd profit margins.

The problem with firearms however is that if you aren't a major established company, then you have shit sales. So if you aren't a big boy, those margins get eaten up real fast.
The reason why keltec doesn't expand isn't because they can't.

>>33452574
The spring and guide rod terminates in front of the trigger guard in order to keep the bore axis very low. Otherwise you'd need more space between the top of the trigger guard and the slide/barrel.

I want one in 10mm

>>33457688
Holy shit, this picture is golden. I'd bet the real Riker wasn't far from the fictional one

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>>33456046
t. Faggot trip who has bought 3 already and has to downplay facts to make his purchases justified

Go fuck yourself fag

>>33457892
(you) are the worst type of poster on 4chan. Please refrain from posting outside of/b/.

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Looks like a Steyr & Strike One had offspring. Which could be a disaster or beautiful thing.

>>33457565

If the price comes down a little, would consider buying when Gen 2 hits. Very little muzzle rise on recoil.

>>33455590
>defense manufacturing

Ahahahahahahahah

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>>33457996
Defense Department, defending the fuck out of sovereign foreign nations.

>>33452138

Even shitty bait like this has succeeded in firing up the tempers of /k/ and futile arguments against trolls.

Never change.

>>33458085
>bait

hudson homo-9 still a shit

>>33458080
The joke was that """Hudson Manufacturing""" is in no way part of the defense industry just because they make one dogshit pistol.

>>33452221
>Not understanding the massive tax and funding incentives to being "minority" owned
Worked for a company years ago where they pulled the same shit, wife was 51% owner on paper but had absolutely nothing to do with the business in function.

Also, I'm far from an SJW but you sound like an insecure fat virgin.

>>33457926
I believe nogun fsggots are the worse kind of poster on /k/ actually sir.

>>33458139
Gotcha. Never known for being quick.

This botique/defense manufacture chose steel frame over polymer. Was this to justify spending $600 more on the pistol vs competition and that polymer striker pistol demand is over saturated?

>>33457765
Glad I"m not the only one with taste here

>>33457958
Steyr has the sexiest upper-body but a dumpy lower-body. If a baby gun had Mama Steyr's tits and daddy's ass it'd be the prettiest gun ever.

>>33457565
>>33457638
yes, her husband was the designer. however women in the workplace are threatened by Females with more power than they possess (CEO's). as such it's much easier for them to write she's merely a designer for a company so that they can gin up the women do things better meme without acknowledging that this one beat the glass ceiling.

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>>33452138
I'm not going to lie I would buy one if they were sub 1k desu senpai

>>33456404
> company goes under
> I have a new collectors item that I shoot a box through a year and stays in my safe next to the Bren
> poorfags stay poor and keep being fags
I'd still be winning

>>33457732
Maybe $245 for materials and labor but real estate, machinery, cocaine, admin employees, reps, prostitutes and so on piles up real quick. You have to take these into account as a cost of making the product or you'll fuck your entire business model. Say your monthly business expenses are 10,000 (it's a low number but a round one) and you make 100 guns. You have to add $100 to the cost of that gun in your business model.

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>>33455988
>haha I'll make myself feel superior on a Bulgarian tractor forum!
>literally wasting money
>for a plastic 1911

And I thought I was a retard for building a beater a2 on a plastic lower

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>>33461546
but it's steel.

Low bore axis is a meme

>>33452544
>it flops
>production was shit, now it's over
>1000 on the market total
>sudden space 1911 collector's item

The Bren Ten was a flop too.

>>33462683
>basic physics is a meme
Im not a fan of this pistol but a low bore axis will always be objectively better than a mid or high bore axis.
Should've paid attention in physics class kiddo.

>>33452221
almost as bad at tripposting

>>33456858
Until /k/ gets post ID's I'll trip.

>>33458185
>projection the post.

>>33465178
You spelled Faggot wrong in your trip

>>33457105
you are retarded.

>>33457105
>poor people drive the market
>people with no disposable income drive the market for non-essentials
Yea right faggot. I'm sure all those manufacturers are chasing your silver dollars.

Sour grapes up in here

>>33457105
Hate to rain on your parade but AR15's are cheap because the market is saturated with them- it's supply side.
If there were more of you retarded poorfaggots demanding them than manufacturers could supply then price would naturally rise.

>>33464312
That's the thing though, it's great on paper in isolated examples, but in practice it's never been a dominating factor between modern pistols. Ultra-Low Bore Axis vs Decent Bore Axis makes effectively zero difference outside the world of ultralight raceguns.

>>33465469
Spotted the newfag.

All guns that we want are guns that make us upper-Tier operators all the time. And while you say it only makes a difference in race guns, I am going to disagree. When shtf and I have to assault or defend, as I increase the lead to air ratio, I want it to be accurate downrange. In stress situations, operators need clear thoughts and the less they have on recoil control, the more you can be moving, changing plates, switching mags or dragging the wounded from battle. Double tapping will be a reaction more than a process.

>>33465469
I can't speak about bore axis specifically, but a low bore axis means you can get a higher, fatter grip on the gun because you have less slide to worry about tearing up your hands and a higher grip is objectively more control over the gun.

>>33456046
Shut the fuck up, Zed

>>33452138
Dave, go to bed

>>33459844
>complains about the gun costing too much
>complains about poorfags
Come on dude, make up your mind

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>1911 trigger without any of the safety features of a 1911

>>33467866
I'd call that perfect.

>>33467866
This is one of those times where both sides are saying the exact same thing, but one is super happy about it and the other fucking hates it.

>>33456102
>1911 trigger
In looks only. Still has over half an inch of trigger travel and significantly higher pull weight than even a mediocre factory 1911 trigger.

>>33465330
There are about 6.8 billion poor people on the planet.

There are only about 200 million rich people.

Yes, poorfags run the market. They run EVERY market.

Why do you think Remington sells a couple million firearms a year and Perazzi sells about 10,000?

>>33456359
>15 round mags on a full-size 9mm pistol
>race gun
For what race? The paralympics?

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>>33452138
Only $245 to preorder? I'll do that.

Where is this? I can't find it.

>>33468068
http://www.fountainfirearms.us/product.245-inital-deposit-2017-hudson-h-9-9mm-428-inch-barrel-trijicon-hd-front-sight-g10-vz-grip-steel-frameslide-15-round-234

>>33468058
Ipsc production

>>33468045
>poorfags run every market
>every
>including the markets that they cannot compete in because they are poorfags
Ok dude. Read a book on economics and get back to me.
Poor fags only get a look in after everyone else has had their fill. Fact.

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>>33452138
>>33468068
>>33468524
Cool, thanks.

>ppl will actually fall for the
Sure will. OP [is a faggot] sold a gun today, thanks bruh.

Sorry everyone.

>>33468828
Is that order number in the tens or hundreds?

>>33457216
Interesting.. color me interested now that I know the "why" but I doubt I'm interested enough to buy - I've got my sights set on the silencerco pistol.

>>33468855
3XXX
Oren at Fountain told me he's got 10 H9s paid for on preorder with his distributor.

Get 'em while they're HYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPPE

>>33468861
That will be pretty moe as long as the trigger isn't shit. I'm glad all the bullshit about silencers is fading and they're no longer business suicide like they used to be.

>>33468828
Neat an OR fag any chance I could duck down there and check it out?

>>33468746
>customers
>competing in markets
You're telling someone else to read a book on economics when you don't even grasp economic concepts I learned in 3rd grade.

>>33457604
>on paper
-classic ergos of 1911
-low bore axis for low muzzle climb
-"1911-style" trigger
>in reality
-front-heavy, low-capacity design
-ergonomics end at looks, feels nothing like a 1911
-low-bore-axis IRL has little effect on muzzle rise. True but vastly overstated benefit.
>trigger feels nothing at all like a 1911 trigger-long and heavy vs. short and light

>>33468551
Oh, the division with 127mm allowable magazines that's currently dominated by the 21+1 capacity wunder-9's and has a total-produced-per-year quota for allowable firearms that the Hudson will never come anywhere close to meeting?

Ok. Yeah naw.

>>33465202
Its trapsaregay

>>33469087
You are not even making sense now. Congratulations, you have progressed from being objectively wrong to being uninteligible, good job.
What have we learned;
1. You are stupid.
2. You are poor.
The real question is are you poor because you are stupid or are you stupid because you are poor?

>>33468551
>go here
http://www.ipsc.org/rules/proddiv.php
>ctrl+F Hudson, ctrl+F H9
>zero results
Not allowed, so nah.

>>33468551
>HURR ITS A RACE GUN
>only appropriate for the "no modifications allowed, duty guns only" division
>would still be bad at it as it holds 6 fewer rounds than most of the other full-size pistols in that category
>still not on approved roster
yeah nah you're just pulling shit out of your ass

>>33461546
>plastic lower
>with an a2 upper

I sure do hope the corpse of Mr. Stoner kicks you in the dick some night in the near future.

>>33468905
Good to hear it's selling. I'm in California and it isn't on the roster, but I'm hopeful they add it on.

>>33465178
>>33465187
What's the point of tripfagging anyway besides attention whoring?

>>33458185
This isn't /pol/ in which there's a unique ID so we can tell who's samefagging and shilling... SPEAKING OF /pol/, by the by.
>>/pol/

>>33469168
>>33469226
>>33469237

guns barely released, its on the review list for 2017 in april.
ipsc production only allows 15 shots in the mag or 15 shots per mag change or something. so any larger capacity is unneccessary. the total production rule is like 2000 guns or sometthing silly

http://ipsc.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=20207&hl=hudson

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>>33469226
>http://www.ipsc.org/rules/proddiv.php
how do you actually manage to breathe?

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>>33469634
uh..huh.

>>33469823
the link was just the list proposal for 2017.
but the list got updated allready, shits on it
>>33469723

>>33468045
Actually the petit bourgeoisie that your kind hate so much have a greater effect on the market than the poor ever will.

>>33468045
>6.8 billion poor people on the planet.
You're going to have to source this nonsense.

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>15 round full size 9mm
I don't understand how they could possibly think the bar is set so low.

>>33470081
Wouldn't be surprised if 6.8 billion people worldwide were below the US poverty line, but that fails to account for unequal purchasing power.

>>33470191
CZ75 is 16 round full size. Glock 17 is 17 round full size. The lower bore axis means the magazine must be shorter to fit in the same grip length (the whole action is lower in comparison to the grip) so how they ended up with15 rounds makes sense. Get an extended magazine or don't buy it if you don't like it

>>33468828
I'm jelly

>>33470265
Meme-axis polys still get to 17 or even 19. This is pretty pathetic if they want this to be anything but a toy.

>>33452138

It's got an interesting mechanism and is not a Glock, I'm sold.

>>33470480
H&K VP9 is only 15 rounds
Glock 19 is 15 rounds
BHP is only 13 rounds
M9 is 15 rounds
SIG P226 is 15 rounds

I fail to see a problem

>>33470625
All those guns are older than you

>>33470480
>Meme-axis
I love how public school retards don't even know how levers work

>>33470659
and all those guns are in common use still

>>33470697
The point is that the H9 has decades of study and advancement on its side but still meets an old standard.

>>33457597
Don't worry about it. It's just some alt-right shit from /pol/.

>>33469138
What a world we live in where niggas are callin a 15+1 9mm "low capacity"

>>33452221
>>Handgun made by womyn run company.

Do...womyn have some sort of mystical insight into firearms that I'm missing?

Because why do I give a quarter fuck about "womyn runned company?"

>>33469138
>-ergonomics end at looks, feels nothing like a 1911
didn't know you'd handled one
>low-bore-axis IRL has little effect on muzzle rise. True but vastly overstated benefit.
didn't know you'd handled one
>trigger feels nothing at all like a 1911 trigger-long and heavy vs. short and light
didn't know you'd handled one

>>33471685
you don't, but the politicians that set police (and defense) budgets and can override acquisition decisions do

they're a husband and wife team playing the game

>>33452138
unless CA approves of this gun then there's no hope for the company

>>33472038
Well microstamping still doesn't exist, so... not bloody likely.

>>33472050

she should sue

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>>33452138

Get me a version with no trigger safety, no grip safety, and a 1911 style manual safety and I will be happy

>>33472050
my point is that only CA has the resident that's even remotely interested in women power and this company will be hard to get new fans of they can't even sell their only product in CA